Whats the better deal? A PS3 and 360 for 600, or a 600 Gaming PC?

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"] That's precisely the point I was trying to make.Mystic-G

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] So? a slight FPS drop? NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] ya right lol

GioVela2010

PC because it does more than just games and movies.

hoola

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]Tom's mislabled the chart it should say "very high" and I provided proof above.

NVIDIATI

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] They specifically said they benchmarked a less intensive part of the game for those inflated results, try againSilenthps

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

deangallop

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Fail more... "note that we tested the game with a new scene that's less power-intensive than the preceding one" from a 2008 benchmark....The benchmark for the 5770 was done in 2009. Anyways I don't need to waste time with you anymore over this because Silenthps ran a benchmark to confirm this @ 1600 x 900 with 4xAA "yeah 32fps. and this is with a 5770 with 80 of its 800 stream processing units missing." Silenthps. NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] They specifically said they benchmarked a less intensive part of the game for those inflated results, try againSilenthps

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Fail more... "note that we tested the game with a new scene that's less power-intensive than the preceding one" from a 2008 benchmark....The benchmark for the 5770 was done in 2009. Anyways I don't need to waste time with you anymore over this because Silenthps ran a benchmark to confirm this @ 1600 x 900 with 4xAA "yeah 32fps. and this is with a 5770 with 80 of its 800 stream processing units missing." Silenthps. GioVela2010

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

NVIDIATI

First, PC is the only platform where having a certain level of tech is required to play games. Also, one of PC's biggest claims to fame is superior visuals, something that is severly downgraded with a $600 dollar PC.

Just wondering. Why are you guys benchmarking at 1680x1050? Since we're doing a console/PC comparison, shouldn't the benchmarking be at the lowest common denominator which is the console's 1280x720? Anything higher is gravy for the PC.

Lol there is a reason no website benchmarks Crysis maxed out on a 5770, and that's because a 5770 can't max it out and run smooth at the same time.GioVela2010

5770 is basically a dx11 4870 which is my current card its capable of playing crysis at this level of graphics in dx9 at 1080p with good fps. I doubt the average person would be disappionted with this level of graphics

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

789shadow

First, PC is the only platform where having a certain level of tech is required to play games. Also, one of PC's biggest claims to fame is superior visuals, something that is severly downgraded with a $600 dollar PC.

1. I was talking about preference of games. Example say you like "genre X" and "System Y" has strong support forthat genre generally you will buy that system.

2. The $600 PC I showed can play Crysis Very High wiht its 5770.Need proof go ask Silenthps who posted a screen of Crysis running at 34-40FPS on his 5770 running at 90% of its retail power due to a Bios problem.

This is the PC I made for this thread which includes everything you need.

$593.93

• Windows 7
• Case
• 585watt PSU
• AM2+ mobo
• 2 GB DDR2 800
• AMD 2.5ghz Quad Core Black Edition
• ATI 5770 1GB DDR5
• Keyboard + Mouse
• 250GB HDD 7200RPM
• Wireless card
• DVD RW

Also since we're talking about Crysis....... The setting of Very High for everything often does not yield the best image quality. Some effects are way overdone and needs to be turned down, especially at the lower resolutions. It's like Contrast and Brightness. You don't shift the sliders all the way to the right just because you can. You shift them just enough so the image quality suits your tastes. Having them all the way to the right results in an ugly image. Same goes for the effects tabs in Crysis.

Also since we're talking about Crysis....... The setting of Very High for everything often does not yield the best image quality. Some effects are way overdone and needs to be turned down, especially at the lower resolutions. It's like Contrast and Brightness. You don't shift the sliders all the way to the right just because you can. You shift them just enough so the image quality suits your tastes. Having them all the way to the right results in an ugly image. Same goes for the effects tabs in Crysis.

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Also since we're talking about Crysis....... The setting of Very High for everything often does not yield the best image quality. Some effects are way overdone and needs to be turned down, especially at the lower resolutions. It's like Contrast and Brightness. You don't shift the sliders all the way to the right just because you can. You shift them just enough so the image quality suits your tastes. Having them all the way to the right results in an ugly image. Same goes for the effects tabs in Crysis.

NVIDIATI

Well, some people have the idea that simply sliding everything over to max gives the best picture. That simply isn't the case.

For me, the better deal would be the gaming PC, but that is because I tend to like PC-only games like sims (such as FSX, DCS, or Lock On).

Just some numbers.....

I game at either 1440x900 (19" monitor) or 1280x768 (32" 720p tv). Unfortunately, The Crysis Benchmarking Tool by MadBoris doesn't have both unless there's something I need to edit somewhere.

Anyway, 1280x720 is the closest I can get which isn't really that much lower than 1440x900 and is very close to 1280x768

DX10 Very High 2xAA: 38

DX10 Very High No AA: 39

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But, Crysis autoconfigs to High as default

DX10 High 2xAA: 46

DX10 High No AA: 48

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Sapphire HD 5770, 2.8ghz Phenom II X3 720 (4th core unlocked)

I've always thought of the GTX 260 as a much better card than the HD 5770 especially in Crysis. I guess I was wrong.

I say PS3/360 because I seriously question the caliber of Gaming PC you can get for $600. A lot depends on the types of games you play as well. I play PC and PS3 games, but if I truly had to pick one, I would pick PS3 because its a more diverse catalog. In particular, the racing, action/adventure games, and platformers are better than anything on PC. PC can keep pace with shooters and is definitely better at RPGs and RTS, but RTS is really my only attraction there.-ArchAngeL-777-

This PC can maxalmost any game you play on it.

$593.93

• Windows 7
• Case
• 585watt PSU
• AM2+ mobo
• 2 GB DDR2 800
• AMD 2.5ghz Quad Core Black Edition
• ATI 5770 1GB DDR5
• Keyboard + Mouse
• 250GB HDD 7200RPM
• Wireless card
• DVD RW

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2009/pc2.png

360/PS3.... because honestly... you're not getting much of a gaming PC for $600.... heck the vid card I have, which is a couple years old already, is still half that price.

moistsandwich

PS3+360 vs $600 PC = PS3+360

PS3 + 360 vs $600 upgrade to a PC you where already getting= preference to game genres you like more.

The computer I built for the guide in my sig (which is actually fairly old now) cost just over $600 and is a more than competent gaming rig (also it does more than the PS3 and 360 combined.)General_X

I have all three, and I would opt for the two consoles in all honesty.

I already have a custom built PC, that is good for running games like crysis but bad for online, I choose Consoles for Original IPs thank you.

PC because it does more than game and you would save money on the games you buy for it.

This is clearly slanted towards consoles.

A poll slanted towards PC would be: Which would you rather have a PC for $600 or a PS3 and 360 (with no computer anywhere)

There is just too much other stuff that a computer does that can't be separated from the higher price.

If you could ration it fairly then the section of the PC that is gaming would obviously cost less but it can't be separated.

It's like those $100 coupons. You can't use a $100 coupoun on anything like something for $35. The system is set up so that you are spending at least this much before you can save $100.

Or like a deductible. You pay this much, then you get some.

Definitely gaming PC. There are entire bucketfuls of games that come out on PC and never on the consoles, you get all kinds of DLC and mods for free, games are cheaper, and the old games - you get 100% backward compatibility. There's just no contest.

This is particularly true if you're comparing game pricing. With the difference in game prices, you could eventually save up to buy Track IR, flight sticks, driving rigs, you name it. Add to that the convenience of Steam, Impulse, and other online stores and it's just... ...it's a totally unfair comparison.

If you're a gamer and you have this kind of money, you should have a gaming rig. You only consider getting a console after you have a gaming rig. You miss too much otherwise.

I don't know what kind of gaming PC you can get for 600 bucks, I would guess not a very good one.

I would say 360/PS3, you'll get the exclusives of the ps3 and the games that 360 has that are also on PC. They may be better on PC, but probably not on a 600 dollar one.

I don't know what kind of gaming PC you can get for 600 bucks, I would guess not a very good one.

I would say 360/PS3, you'll get the exclusives of the ps3 and the games that 360 has that are also on PC. They may be better on PC, but probably not on a 600 dollar one.

Pug-Nasty

Not to mention the games that are on both 360 and PS3, but not PC. Those are overlooked because they are technically not "exclusive" but in reality they are exclusive when comparing both systems vs PC.

Both points taken into account.

A $600 PC today is not top of the line, but it certainly has more than enough to run any multiplatform title - and better than you can on any console, with a choice of control methods.

There are games that release only on 360 and PS3. Those are a small number of games. There are games that release only in the online space, only for PC gamers. There are so many of these games on a weekly basis that no gaming magazine anywhere even bothers to pretend that they're covering everything. There's just too much to cover. Obviously, none of this even makes it to the gaming news for consoles. Why would it?

Gaming on PC is on a whole 'nother level. If you have the money, upgrade your gaming life to the next level.

PS3/360 obviously. Way more better games and with a better variety too

And uou can't really build a satisfying computer for $600.

About $500 got me:

Lian Li Case: $100

Lian Li Top Cover: $30

Lian Li CD Cover: $15

Prolimatech CPU Cooler: $65

4 Noctua Fans: $100

Corsair PSU: $150

CD Drive: $30

GioVela2010

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]I say PS3/360 because I seriously question the caliber of Gaming PC you can get for $600. A lot depends on the types of games you play as well. I play PC and PS3 games, but if I truly had to pick one, I would pick PS3 because its a more diverse catalog. In particular, the racing, action/adventure games, and platformers are better than anything on PC. PC can keep pace with shooters and is definitely better at RPGs and RTS, but RTS is really my only attraction there.NVIDIATI

This PC can maxalmost any game you play on it.

$593.93

• Windows 7
• Case
• 585watt PSU
• AM2+ mobo
• 2 GB DDR2 800
• AMD 2.5ghz Quad Core Black Edition
• ATI 5770 1GB DDR5
• Keyboard + Mouse
• 250GB HDD 7200RPM
• Wireless card
• DVD RW

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2009/pc2.png

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

PS3/360 obviously. Way more better games and with a better variety too

And uou can't really build a satisfying computer for $600.

About $500 got me:

Lian Li Case: $100

Lian Li Top Cover: $30

Lian Li CD Cover: $15

Prolimatech CPU Cooler: $65

4 Noctua Fans: $100

Corsair PSU: $150

CD Drive: $30

DragonfireXZ95

It's 750w and it's called future proofing.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]I say PS3/360 because I seriously question the caliber of Gaming PC you can get for $600. A lot depends on the types of games you play as well. I play PC and PS3 games, but if I truly had to pick one, I would pick PS3 because its a more diverse catalog. In particular, the racing, action/adventure games, and platformers are better than anything on PC. PC can keep pace with shooters and is definitely better at RPGs and RTS, but RTS is really my only attraction there.DragonfireXZ95

This PC can maxalmost any game you play on it.

$593.93

• Windows 7
• Case
• 585watt PSU
• AM2+ mobo
• 2 GB DDR2 800
• AMD 2.5ghz Quad Core Black Edition
• ATI 5770 1GB DDR5
• Keyboard + Mouse
• 250GB HDD 7200RPM
• Wireless card
• DVD RW

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2009/pc2.png

That thing has access for 1 fan, you gonna built a gaming computer with 1 fan...Have fun replacing everything in a year..

And that 1 fan would probably shake the case apart..Talk about poor quality...

A 450 USD could run crysis at max settings at 1680x1050.

I know because the PC I built 3 years ago is worth that much now and can play crysis at those settings.

I vote PC because I like the internet, movies and games.

With consoles you got games but no browsing the internet.

I can not belive I am saying this but I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I can not belive I am saying this but I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.tirralirra

Yup i have trouble keeping up with all the game.

There are some truly amazing ones like Planetscape Torment.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

Holy cow PC's actually winning, people really are brainwashed.

789shadow

First, PC is the only platform where having a certain level of tech is required to play games. Also, one of PC's biggest claims to fame is superior visuals, something that is severly downgraded with a $600 dollar PC.