Whats the better deal? A PS3 and 360 for 600, or a 600 Gaming PC?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Why would you get an i7 and not overclock? I have a slight overclock @ 3.4Ghz, and my temps reach about 63c while under load.

killab2oo5

Due to the fact that an i7 at stock speeds would be more than enough juice for the majority of people. I personally would overclock, but assuming everyone needs to is pure fallacy. The fact remains that stock i7 would outperform the vast majority of CPU's on the market.

:lol:

Well even God can't outperform the Cell.

[QUOTE="ironman388"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

I didn't, I had to buy a $300 dollar monitor, a $60 dollar keyboard, and a $60 dollar gaming mouse.

I also needed a desk for everything which was another $700 dollars.

Hahadouken

Where does this come from, this widely-accepted (among PC gamers only) assumption that "most people asking for a PC already own one"?

It's straight-up misleading picking and choosing which components you include in a price, especially since every one of you knows you wouldn't have been satisfied with the barebones crap.

If you guys want to do that, call it "UPGRADE YOUR RIG FOR $600!" because it isn't "building a rig" if you assume people already own half the components.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

[QUOTE="ironman388"]so we are supposed to pick a desk for you now? you have to understand that most people who are asking for a PC already have one, thus they already have things like a mouse, keyboard, desk, monitor etc.

TheDogout

Where does this come from, this widely-accepted (among PC gamers only) assumption that "most people asking for a PC already own one"?

It's straight-up misleading picking and choosing which components you include in a price, especially since every one of you knows you wouldn't have been satisfied with the barebones crap.

If you guys want to do that, call it "UPGRADE YOUR RIG FOR $600!" because it isn't "building a rig" if you assume people already own half the components.

True, but it's exactly the same as factoring a TV into the console prices when talking specifically of display options.

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Why would you get an i7 and not overclock? I have a slight overclock @ 3.4Ghz, and my temps reach about 63c while under load.

killab2oo5

Just take my word for it.

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Why would you get an i7 and not overclock? I have a slight overclock @ 3.4Ghz, and my temps reach about 63c while under load.

GioVela2010

Just take my word for it.

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

[QUOTE="TheDogout"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]

Where does this come from, this widely-accepted (among PC gamers only) assumption that "most people asking for a PC already own one"?

It's straight-up misleading picking and choosing which components you include in a price, especially since every one of you knows you wouldn't have been satisfied with the barebones crap.

If you guys want to do that, call it "UPGRADE YOUR RIG FOR $600!" because it isn't "building a rig" if you assume people already own half the components.

lundy86_4

True, but it's exactly the same as factoring a TV into the console prices when talking specifically of display options.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] It already is..... it has been out barely even a year :P

moistsandwich

Okay... so I was wrong about how long its been on the market.... but so what.... it is $300 like I said, half the price of the "$600 PC".... I'm already thinking about upgrading, I wouldnt want to game on the PC with anything less than what I currently have.

PS3 and 360.

Only thing I like about PC are graphics and mods and I don't care for them too much nowadays.

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"] Hmm...are you sure you really have this setup you've been flaunting the past few days? I mean, you posted SOMEONE ELSES setup as yours (as far as I'm concerned. You never calirfied it was actually yours), and the only proof you've provided is a video that may not even be yours.

lundy86_4

Just take my word for it.

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

cuz I'm not posting anybody elses pictures :|

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"] Hmm...are you sure you really have this setup you've been flaunting the past few days? I mean, you posted SOMEONE ELSES setup as yours (as far as I'm concerned. You never calirfied it was actually yours), and the only proof you've provided is a video that may not even be yours.

lundy86_4

Just take my word for it.

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TheDogout"] Why do people assume that everyone has a DESKTOP. I have a laptop which is not a gaming pc Not everyone gamefaqs with a desktop

Hahadouken

True, but it's exactly the same as factoring a TV into the console prices when talking specifically of display options.

And you should only buy a Corsair PSU, they are the best of the best and you never want to skimp on the PSU.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Just take my word for it.

GioVela2010

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

cuz I'm not posting anybody elses pictures :|

Yet another poster who's been banned posted exactly the same ones... i'm confused ;)

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

lundy86_4

cuz I'm not posting anybody elses pictures :|

Yet another poster who's been banned posted exactly the same ones... i'm confused ;)

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Just take my word for it.

millerlight89

Why would we do that when you're posting somebody else's pictures, or you're, well you know ;)

Yeah, I know they're his. I'm just not gonna accuse him of what he is, because i've had it out with other posters in the past about it.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TheDogout"] Why do people assume that everyone has a DESKTOP. I have a laptop which is not a gaming pc Not everyone gamefaqs with a desktop

Hahadouken

True, but it's exactly the same as factoring a TV into the console prices when talking specifically of display options.

My bad, I just skimmed instead of seriously reading :P

I don't doubt some take their prices seriously, but it's a counterpoint to people who over-exaggerate PC build prices.

I think it depends on what control scheme you prefer: keyboard and mouse or controller? Some people just can't get over how much less precise a controller is when compared to a keyboard and mouse. Considering the fact that control over a game is pretty much the most important aspect of gaming, then I wouldn't recommend the 360 and PS3 over the PC if you are one of these people. If you can get used to a controller and have no qualms with it (I personally like gaming on controllers more now), then there's no doubt you should go for the 360 and PS3. The games the better, and the PS3 and 360 definitely have more worthwhile games when combined than the PC alone. Don't get me wrong, the PC has some amazing, gorgeous games, but for a true gamer, if you had to choose between these two options, then the 360 and PS3 should be a no-brainer.

You know what I have a problem with, people acting like you need to buy I7s, and 5870s or else your PC sucks. PC gaming can be very affordable and still outperform consoles by miles.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]$600 on a PC from an actual store is going to be a piece of crap. Hahadouken

If I already have a non-gaming PC, I'll take the consoles. Of course, that's not taking into account my favorite genre which is flight sims (and by default, PC).

If I don't have anything yet, I'll take the gaming PC. A PC comes first no matter what.

600 gaming PC for pron.

I'm on a system that actually cost me less then 600 dollars and can play games very nicely.

Just for reference, a quick tour through newegg could easily result in a sub 600 dollar system that can keep up nicely with games these days. Its gonna depend on what you desire to play on. If you planned on playing on some 26+ monitor or lcd tv screen then overall you would want a ps3/360 as a 600 dollar system would be a bit of a stress for such resolutions (600 dollar system is a nice mid range so for me 20inch monitors would be desired max 1650x 1050 max resoultion ideally).

With that said, here is a nice sub 600 system (just quick look through. probably way better deals if i really searched)

• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652 AMD phenom II x3 2.8 ghz $104.99
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130250R MSI motherboard $51.99
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824&cm_re=HD4850-_-14-102-824-_-Product ATI 4850 512mb $79.99 after rebate
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231143 G-skill ddr2 1066 ram 2 sticks $60
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.365785 Rosewill mobo and Rosewill 500w psu combo $69.98 (psu just sold out lol)
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136113 Western Digital 250 gb harddrive $44.99
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 Liteon dvd burner player cd burner..... $24.99
• http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185096 Scyth aftermarket Heatsink $28.69

Thats about 500 right there for a good midrange case.

There is also something that could be a nice midrange such as combo deals like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=COMBO.377103 that could result in a nice midrange system when finished and could actually be cheaper but it really depends on being a frugal shopper for pc parts and finding great deals (example.. I got my bfg gts 250 in july for $85 dollars during a newegg egg shocker day deal)

Now system to system, you also have to consider what games you want to play. All 3 have great titles but keep in context that many 360 games get ported over to the pc. Outside of that you could look up http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2010/ which is all the games scheduled for this year on PC (its missing one though "shatter"). Also realize that the pc can have more options outside of gaming for you but it all depends on what you are doing with it. Offcourse there are extras for pc such as download game services such as impulse, steam, direct 2 drive, gamersgate and even EA download service that provide many games on great discounts. (bad company 2 3 weeks ago was 19.99 on download for PC with a pax coupon code and it being 10 dollars off). Also take into account that many pc games are 10 dollars cheaper out of release compared to consoles but certain games can have horrible drm (dang you ubisoft lol). Keep in context of peripherals for your system. If you a race fan for example you might not like that nice racing wheels won't work on 360 such as the logetech g25. Another extra to pc is modding though sadly has been in decline in later years but allows for some great additions to games such as fallout 3, oblivion, etc etc. I still like to play star wars empires at war with mods allowing me to use any battleship from the star wars universe.

Conclusion:

If gaming over 26 inch screen, I would go for a console as the price to performance would match up.

If you ok with a 19-20 inch screen and want something with great games, a system that stretches ALL game genres nicely, can do more then a console generally speaking outside of gaming, longer longevity on older games (pc players build up long time fanbases with great games where consoles players seem to move on to the next great game) then go for a 600 dollar PC.

PC of course. Make sure your PC you buy has Windows 7.

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]It's not hyperbole, you can't build a "top of the line rig" for $600 and this BS propaganda only exists on the internet.AnnoyedDragon

Note I live in the UK, so what you can get for dollars isn't very familiar to me.

However I cannot help but note that you are already trying to rig this challenge, the red area being the problem.

You are the one who initiated this challenge by calling a $600 PC crap, but now I noticed you are trying to pad out the cost by throwing words like "top of the line rig" and earlier "like it's all you need to max Crysis".

In case you haven't noticed the topic is comparing a $600 PC to 360 and PS3, when did this become about building a top of the line Crysis maxing rig? You are the one who brought this mentality into this thread, not someone else.

I made this for Hadakouken all in USD using Newegg with all of the things he wanted in a PC for a little under $600. So its about 386 GBP.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

360/PS3.... because honestly... you're not getting much of a gaming PC for $600.... heck the vid card I have, which is a couple years old already, is still half that price.

GTX 275.... plz don't give links to newegg or some other site, in some blind belief that those places deliver to everywhere in the world.... or that your dollar is the same as my dollar.

What country are you in?NVIDIATI

its the same in USA

nvidia is **** with price adjustments

gtx275 is still $300 while the hd4890 if you can find it is $200 or less which performs way better.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

What country are you in?washd123

its the same in USA

nvidia is **** with price adjustments

gtx275 is still $300 while the hd4890 if you can find it is $200 or less which performs way better.

its the same in USA

nvidia is **** with price adjustments

gtx275 is still $300 while the hd4890 if you can find it is $200 or less which performs way better.

washd123

Where are you coming up with these numbers from? What I see is gtx 275 selling for 220-250 while the 4890 sales for 200. Not only that but all the reviews I see shows the 275 beating the 4890 in many benchmarks.

• http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-geforce-gtx-275-1792mb-review/10
• http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nvidia_gtx_275/13.htm
• http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-275,2266-6.html
• http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1027/6/

I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.millerlight89

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.Ratchet_Fan8

a $600 PC wouldn't be worth the trouble. You want a decent PC you should spend double that.

a $600 PC wouldn't be worth the trouble. You want a decent PC you should spend double that.

lespaul1919

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Considering that there's about a billion things a PC can do that a 360/PS3 can't?

And the PC has way more power?

I have a $600 PC from last year that runs Crysis on high, with AA turned up, at 1920x1080

Considering what the PC is it has a way higher value than both consoles. Especially when you break it down and find the consoles share 95% of their multiplats with eachother, and the 360 also shares a ton with the PC (which 99% run better on the PC).

I can not belive I am saying this but I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.millerlight89

most of them are all the same multiplatform games

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

a $600 PC wouldn't be worth the trouble. You want a decent PC you should spend double that.

NVIDIATI

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lolwat. 32 bit? lol? 2 GB ram? lol? amd? lol? like I said, spend twice as much and get a good pc.

intel quad
4GB RAM
win7 64 bit pro
lga 775 mobo
5870
2 HDD's, one for os/gaming/apps one for storage
g5 or mx518

go big or go home.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I can not belive I am saying this but I would get the two consoles. Many more games to enjoy.SLI_Gamer

most of them are all the same multiplatform games

PC of course.

Buying a 360 and a PS3 would be like buying a two $200 PC's... I'd rather spend $600 on one and get more for my buck.

lolwat. 32 bit? lol? 2 GB ram? lol? amd? lol? like I said, spend twice as much and get a good pc.

intel quad
4GB RAM
win7 64 bit pro
lga 775 mobo
5870
2 HDD's, one for os/gaming/apps one for storage
g5 or mx518

go big or go home.

lespaul1919

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

a $600 PC wouldn't be worth the trouble. You want a decent PC you should spend double that.

lespaul1919

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lolwat. 32 bit? lol? 2 GB ram? lol? amd? lol? like I said, spend twice as much and get a good pc.

intel quad
4GB RAM
win7 64 bit pro
lga 775 mobo
5870
2 HDD's, one for os/gaming/apps one for storage
g5 or mx518

go big or go home.

Why do you need a 5870? and all that extra stuff?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-7.html

A 5770 on stock can runa game like Crysis just fine. And they're is nothing wrong with AMD, also you don't need more than 2GB ram anyways with W7 32bit. Not to mention for games the 5770 has 1GB DDR5.

I laugh at people above who keep categorizing mid level pc systems as "not good pc's" when they can play all that others can as long as you not on a big monitor (20in and lower)

To the individual who said, console has many more games......

http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2010/

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]

a $600 PC wouldn't be worth the trouble. You want a decent PC you should spend double that.

lespaul1919

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• Wireless card
• DVD RW

lolwat. 32 bit? lol? 2 GB ram? lol? amd? lol? like I said, spend twice as much and get a good pc.

intel quad
4GB RAM
win7 64 bit pro
lga 775 mobo
5870
2 HDD's, one for os/gaming/apps one for storage
g5 or mx518

go big or go home.

1. most important part for gaming is the vga and that 5770 can max almost every game at 1920x1080 while it can even run Crysis at high at 1680x1050 ( oh the sacrifices )

2. Whats wrong with 32 bit ( there isnt a single game that requires exclusively 64bit to run and neither will be in the foreseable future maybe in 4-5 years when 64bit Os will become the norm) ? Still if you wanna go 64 bit add another $20-30 ( Oh the costs )

3. Although amd now dont have a cpu to match intels fasters i7 cpu's for gaming anything more than an i5 or an mad phenom 2 quad core is a luxury and definatelly not needed. Hell even my 3,5 year old Q6600 plays all games great

4. Why you need 2 hdd's? One 500gb Hd is not enough? and what does a bigger Hd has to do with gaming ?

All this go big or go home really is annoying I have an $850 ( 780 euros actually) pc equipped with an intel Q6600 and an 8800gt that i build 2,5 years ago and still lasted me till this day. I can play games like assasings creed, Batman AA, dragon age, left4dead and Dirt 2 at max settings with 4xAA at my monitors native res ( 1440x900 ) .

Wow, at the time of my posting it's completely equal on both sides. For me, 360/PS3, I'm not much of a PC gamer and the games don't appeal that much to me.

I laugh at people above who keep categorizing mid level pc systems as "not good pc's" when they can play all that others can as long as you not on a big monitor (20in and lower)

To the individual who said, console has many more games......

http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2010/

two consoles. a 600 pc isnt going to get you very far....slvrraven9

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