when will X360 and wii get their first 2009 AAAE?

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#201 darthogre
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[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="ps3weee"] You just owned the COW that made this thread. Dont expect him to respond...moose_knuckler
I don't get this......Sony drought was one and half years (from launch to MGS4). MS drought was one year and 2 months long (from halo 3 released in Sept 07 to gears 2 released in Nov 08). You guys are giddy over 4 MONTHS?!? What ever floats you boat. Essentially both had huge gaps between AAAE's and MS just might have another year before their next AAAE. If I was a Lem I would honestly drop the "yeah but we are not as bad as PS3" because essentially you are worse. Back to back year droughts is nothing to cheer about.

Well technically if going by GS scores Geometry Wars: RE 2 came out late July 08 so the spread between AAAE's was 10 months, not 14. That really doesn't make a difference in my eyes but what you said needed to be corrected is all.

Nothing I said needs to be corrected, PSN or XBL games do NOT count.....look up the rules because I didn't make them up. Why is it people try to bend the rules when the facts get in their way?
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#202 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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look up the rules darthogre
Which rules?
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#203 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]look up the rules IronBass
Which rules?

Yea I just checked SW rules and they say nothing about PSN or XBL games not counting.
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#204 Silent-Hal
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I don't see the Wii getting an AAA this year but Microsoft could pull something spectacular out of their ass at E3. The current exclusive line up looks pretty bare but MS don't usually announce games until the year that they're out. If they don't have anything up their sleeve, God help them...

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#205 Lionheart08
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Yea I just checked SW rules and they say nothing about PSN or XBL games not counting. moose_knuckler

It's not in the rules, but there was a big debate over it after Geometry Wars and it was decided downloadable games didn't count. That's why only Gears 2 was recognized as the 360's only AAAe last year.

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#206 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Yea I just checked SW rules and they say nothing about PSN or XBL games not counting. Lionheart08

It's not in the rules, but there was a big debate over it after Geometry Wars and it was decided downloadable games didn't count. That's why only Gears 2 was recognized as the 360's only AAAe last year.

I remember that debate, and no "decision" was reached. Besides, Braid being nominated as GotY favors the argument that they count.
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#207 Chaos_HL21
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look from my whole time on SW I've learned only GS scores count
I know it's frustating and upsetting but we can't just change the rules everytime your console has a bad year right?
valkyria chronicles will get 3 DLC packs and none of them will get reviewd
thats 3 vs 1 in your favor

sheesh just leave it

so when will X360 get its first AAAE of 2009?

Rhubarb9

Halo 3 has2 DLC packs and none got reviewed, Mass Effect has 1 and one up coming and they would not get reviewed. Fable 2 has 1 and that does not get reivewed. But That DLC is not like the Lost and The Damned.

I would say that it is more like Quest for Booty or Knights of the Nine (which did get reviewed). However I guess that although Lost and the Damned was at retailers it was not in disc format, and that is why it did not get reviewed. But Lost and the Damned is not like a normal DLC, it is much larger.

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#208 Sagacious_Tien
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I find it unusual that Gamespot has not reviewed The Lost and Damned. They did quite a few previews and news stories on it. In all respects, it is a AAAE. The Wii I'm not sure on (sold mine and not looking at upcoming atm) though perhaps the Pikmin Wiimake might get it. Though Im not sure if that really counts. Forza 3 hasn't been officially announced yet, but I do believe it's coming this year and should get a AAA as well.
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#209 vlens
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If ODST gets reviewed if will not get AAA! The game is 3-5 hours long! They will never give it higher then an 8.5! As much as i love halo, don't hype it AAA!

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#210 vlens
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isn't the fact that gamespot all of the suddendoesn't review Expansion packs proof they give more about fanboy's then about gamers that just want to know howthe gameholds up!?Why in the world would you not review DLC! This is a gamingsite, giving their opinion of all games!Is gamespot afraid for giving it AAA, leading to hate mails ? i don't get it!

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#211 Cherokee_Jack
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The game is 3-5 hours long!vlens
So what? It's an expansion.
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#212 Killfox
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Wow. People really need to stop complaining about Lost and the Damned. I think I have more right to be mad about Empire total war getting an 8.5 than some DLC not being reviewed at all. Plus when has reviews from this site stopped you from buying a game. I sure as hell am still buying ETW. Also this site is a joke of review site now. Its been like this for awhile. We had the edios thing and the jeff thing. They gave best technical graphics to MGS4. GTA4 was no where near a 10 even though there were other places that gave it that score. This whole site has been going down hill for quite some time. Sure I know people want bragging rights here, but who really cares. Hey if makes you sleep at night.
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#213 Rhubarb9
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Wow. People really need to stop complaining about Lost and the Damned. I think I have more right to be mad about Empire total war getting an 8.5 than some DLC not being reviewed at all. Plus when has reviews from this site stopped you from buying a game. I sure as hell am still buying ETW. Also this site is a joke of review site now. Its been like this for awhile. We had the edios thing and the jeff thing. They gave best technical graphics to MGS4. GTA4 was no where near a 10 even though there were other places that gave it that score. This whole site has been going down hill for quite some time. Sure I know people want bragging rights here, but who really cares. Hey if makes you sleep at night.Killfox

first, I agree that ETW is a great game, me and my friends pretty much discuss about it non stop when we hang :P

but the business suit who fired Jeff was himself also fired

when edios asked GS to not review the latest tomb raider game until a certain date unless they scored it well,
GS scored it a 7, released the review early and wrote on their news page about what edios had done

also theres no way sony could've bribed the reviewer, remember that sony didn't even wanna pay up for example GTA IV being timed exclusive

and if people here don't like gamespots system wars I'm sure there are plenty of other console wars forums
all though proberbly without the nice mods of GS that keep off-topic, flaming, trolling the F out

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#214 vlens
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[QUOTE="vlens"]The game is 3-5 hours long!Cherokee_Jack
So what? It's an expansion.

Do you really think gamespot is going to give AAA to a game between 3-5 hours long? I know it"s an expansion, but i'm talking to people that hope it will get AAA! No matter how great it is

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#215 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="vlens"]The game is 3-5 hours long!vlens

So what? It's an expansion.

Do you really think gamespot is going to give AAA to a game between 3-5 hours long? I know it"s an expansion, but i'm talking to people that hope it will get AAA! No matter how great it is

*Looks at COD 4* Maybe, with how Gamespot review games these days, you'll never know.
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#216 halo2mad12345
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ODST, Forza 3, Alan Wake

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#217 mitu123
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It would be sad if the 360 doesn't get an AAA this year.

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#218 Rhubarb9
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did any possible AAAE games get revealed during GDC?

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#220 wooooode
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I was kind of expecting Lost and the Damned to be AAAE.

But of course, GS wouldn't review it.

Its not a game, its an expantion should they review the new R2 and COD WAW DLC as well?
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#221 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I was kind of expecting Lost and the Damned to be AAAE.

But of course, GS wouldn't review it.

wooooode

Its not a game, its an expantion should they review the new R2 and COD WAW DLC as well?

Well they reviewed other expansions, such as. Lost and the Damned it much bigger than any normal DLC, it is an expansion need to be downloaded.

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#222 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="wooooode"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I was kind of expecting Lost and the Damned to be AAAE.

But of course, GS wouldn't review it.

Chaos_HL21

Its not a game, its an expantion should they review the new R2 and COD WAW DLC as well?

Well they reviewed other expansions, such as. Lost and the Damned it much bigger than any normal DLC, it is an expansion need to be downloaded.

My rule of thumb is unless its one of those PSN/XBL downloadable full games, only games that can also be purchased in hard copy should be reviewed. If you cant get it in hard copy and it requires another game to work, then it really is nothing more than DLC, regardless of content.
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#223 nyctota
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Just wait and see.glenn2709

just wait

i see lemmings took over the candle

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#224 rgame1
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sooner than ps3's me thinks
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#225 Rhubarb9
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sooner than ps3's me thinksrgame1

joke or not up to date?

KILLZONE 2 - current console graphics king and multiplayer

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#226 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="wooooode"] Its not a game, its an expantion should they review the new R2 and COD WAW DLC as well?II_Seraphim_II

Well they reviewed other expansions, such as. Lost and the Damned it much bigger than any normal DLC, it is an expansion need to be downloaded.

My rule of thumb is unless its one of those PSN/XBL downloadable full games, only games that can also be purchased in hard copy should be reviewed. If you cant get it in hard copy and it requires another game to work, then it really is nothing more than DLC, regardless of content.




its not AAAE on gamerankings anylonger so hopefully we can leave it behind

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#227 cool_beans1
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Rhubarb9



its not AAAE on gamerankings anylonger so hopefully we can leave it behind

I thought we blew the thread you made about that out of the water? I remember noticing metacritic had about 20 more reviews about L+D than gamerankings did.

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#228 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]cool_beans1




its not AAAE on gamerankings anylonger so hopefully we can leave it behind

I thought we blew the thread you made about that out of the water? I remember noticing metacritic had about 20 more reviews about L+D than gamerankings did.



theres a diffrence between blowing it out of the water and topic getting locked out of the water...

gamerankings has a better rating system and the gamespot site itself uses GR over MC but it doesnt matter anyway as GS didn't rate it
so it's void

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#229 cool_beans1
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[QUOTE="cool_beans1"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]


its not AAAE on gamerankings anylonger so hopefully we can leave it behind

Rhubarb9

I thought we blew the thread you made about that out of the water? I remember noticing metacritic had about 20 more reviews about L+D than gamerankings did.



theres a diffrence between blowing it out of the water and topic getting locked out of the water...

gamerankings has a better rating system and the gamespot site itself uses GR over MC but it doesnt matter anyway as GS didn't rate it
so it's void

lol then why did you bother making that gameranking topic up in the first place? Plus GS rounded it up to 9 just like Uncharted (random I know but just a little fyi).

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#230 clone01
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eh, we'll see at E3.

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#231 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="cool_beans1"]

I thought we blew the thread you made about that out of the water? I remember noticing metacritic had about 20 more reviews about L+D than gamerankings did.

cool_beans1



theres a diffrence between blowing it out of the water and topic getting locked out of the water...

gamerankings has a better rating system and the gamespot site itself uses GR over MC but it doesnt matter anyway as GS didn't rate it
so it's void

lol then why did you bother making that gameranking topic up in the first place? Plus GS rounded it up to 9 just like Uncharted (random I know but just a little fyi).



same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

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#232 cool_beans1
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Rhubarb9



same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Ahh so this was just fanboyism at it's best I see (plus I'm fine with AAAE DLC atm), and saying no AAAE potential games for 360 in sight is just funny if you think your right (Alan Wake is the one that jumps out, SC:Conviction but nothing about dates or gameplay recently, then again it's Ubisoft and SC so that sounds like enough potential right there). It's good you put ???'s over saying K2 and multiplayer king though 'cause I highly disagree, as for graphics king that title hardly stays around for a console game.

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#233 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

cool_beans1



same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Ahh so this was just fanboyism at it's best I see (plus I'm fine with AAAE DLC atm), and saying no AAAE potential games for 360 in sight is just funny if you think your right (Alan Wake is the one that jumps out, SC:Conviction but nothing about dates or gameplay recently, then again it's Ubisoft and SC so that sounds like enough potential right there). It's good you put ???'s over saying K2 and multiplayer king though 'cause I highly disagree, as for graphics king that title hardly stays around for a console game.

yes, fanboyism. This is system wars fyi, if there was no fanboys there wouldn't be any system wars, thank me for keeping system wars going.
Alan Wake is multiplat with PC and nothing is known about the game,TBA status, all gameplay vids are from PC version
you disagree that KZ2 is mp king cause maybe you haven't tried it out

So what exclusive 2009 AAAE X360 game is there, cool beans? Tell me I'm dying to know about it.

edit - removed content to get suspended for ^^

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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I was kind of expecting Lost and the Damned to be AAAE.

But of course, GS wouldn't review it.

GANGSTASAN

No one cares if GS doesn't review things....

If that was true, this forum would not exist and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Rhubarb9

Heh. I'd like to know you're reasoning on that.

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#236 cool_beans1
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[QUOTE="cool_beans1"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Rhubarb9

Ahh so this was just fanboyism at it's best I see (plus I'm fine with AAAE DLC atm), and saying no AAAE potential games for 360 in sight is just funny if you think your right (Alan Wake is the one that jumps out, SC:Conviction but nothing about dates or gameplay recently, then again it's Ubisoft and SC so that sounds like enough potential right there). It's good you put ???'s over saying K2 and multiplayer king though 'cause I highly disagree, as for graphics king that title hardly stays around for a console game.

yes, fanboyism. This is system wars fyi, if there was no fanboys there wouldn't be any system wars, thank me for keeping system wars going.
Alan Wake is multiplat with PC and nothing is known about the game,TBA status, all gameplay vids are from PC version
you disagree that KZ2 is mp king cause maybe you haven't tried it out

So what exclusive 2009 AAAE X360 game is there, cool beans? Tell me I'm dying to know about it.

edit - removed content to get suspended for ^^

fyi system wars =/= fanboyism Rhubarb9 I'm ashamed you don't know that. Considering if you actually try to have more in-depth discussions about which system being better in certain aspects without having to drag in fanboys, instead of judging a book by it's cover which seems to me like you've done. I've always been under the notion that 360/PC are considered "console" exclusives consid.....o wait, that part's right. So in that regard, both those games I've mentionedhave AAAE potential even though true AW is TBA and I doubt SC:Conviction is coming out in June, I don't know of any other games atm that look like AAAE potential but I'm sure I could find some. As for that K2 remark, I have tried it out so.....I still disargee not exactly sure where you were getting with that remark.

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#237 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Kickinurass

Heh. I'd like to know you're reasoning on that.



heh. No. You'd like to scoff off whatever reasoning I bring as BS on that.
hopefully you understand it has nothing to do with sales

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[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

same reason I'm rubbing in that theres no AAAE games for X360 in sight, KZ2 is console graphics & multiplayer king???

Rhubarb9

Heh. I'd like to know you're reasoning on that.



heh. No. You'd like to scoff off whatever reasoning I bring as BS on that.
hopefully you understand it has nothing to do with sales

So you make a vague declarative without any foundation to your post, and then refuse to back it up your very own declarative? Well, that's a great way to prove a point.

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#239 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

Heh. I'd like to know you're reasoning on that.

Stevo_the_gamer



heh. No. You'd like to scoff off whatever reasoning I bring as BS on that.
hopefully you understand it has nothing to do with sales

So you make a vague declarative without any foundation to your post, and then refuse to back it up your very own declarative? Well, that's a great way to prove a point.

I'd love to answer that Steve, but I've gotten modden 2-3 times talking to you so is there any ignore button in here? :/

can't we just stick to the topic of when X360 or wii gets their first 2009 AAAE?

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#240 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'd love to answer that Steve, but I've gotten modden 2-3 times talking to you so is there any ignore button in here? :/

can't we just stick to the topic of when X360 or wii gets their first 2009 AAAE?Rhubarb9
Why should I give you reason to not have a rational discussion? If you really believe Killzone 2 is the "multiplayer king" .... then how about you make a thread explaining why? After all, considering that'd be an issue which is very easy to debun-, I mean, "debate".

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#241 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I'd love to answer that Steve, but I've gotten modden 2-3 times talking to you so is there any ignore button in here? :/

can't we just stick to the topic of when X360 or wii gets their first 2009 AAAE?Stevo_the_gamer

Why should I give you reason to not have a rational discussion? If you really believe Killzone 2 is the "multiplayer king" .... then how about you make a thread explaining why? After all, considering that'd be an issue which is very easy to debun-, I mean, "debate".



you're off topicing in my topic and then telling me to go make a new topic?

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#242 cool_beans1
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]I'd love to answer that Steve, but I've gotten modden 2-3 times talking to you so is there any ignore button in here? :/

can't we just stick to the topic of when X360 or wii gets their first 2009 AAAE?Rhubarb9

Why should I give you reason to not have a rational discussion? If you really believe Killzone 2 is the "multiplayer king" .... then how about you make a thread explaining why? After all, considering that'd be an issue which is very easy to debun-, I mean, "debate".



you're off topicing in my topic and then telling me to go make a new topic?

I believe you were the first one to start "off-topicing your topic" as of recently.

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#243 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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you're off topicing in my topic and then telling me to go make a new topic?Rhubarb9
I'm afraid you were the first to go off on this tangent declaring that KZ2 is the "multiplayer king". Should I quote that very post again so you can see? Regardless, I'd love to see your reasoning (if there is any, mind you) why KZ2 is the "multiplayer king". This thread is so shallow anyways, how long did it take for the PS3 to get an AAAE? :roll:

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#244 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]you're off topicing in my topic and then telling me to go make a new topic?Stevo_the_gamer

I'm afraid you were the first to go off on this tangent declaring that KZ2 is the "multiplayer king". Should I quote that very post again so you can see? Regardless, I'd love to see your reasoning (if there is any, mind you) why KZ2 is the "multiplayer king". This thread is so shallow anyways, how long did it take for the PS3 to get an AAAE? :roll:



lol then why did you bother making that gameranking topic up in the first place?

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I answerd this question.

for the reason that lems often brought in the null lost and the damned to THIS topic



and the time PS3 went without any AAAEs was made up for the fact that it has an AAAAE
METAL GEAR SOLID IV
considering PC, wii or X360 won't never get an AAAAE I say that period without AAAE was certainly worth it.

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#245 Cherokee_Jack
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PC, wii or X360 won't never get an AAAAERhubarb9
I agree.
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#246 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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and the time PS3 went without any AAAEs was made up for the fact that it has an AAAAE
METAL GEAR SOLID IV

considering PC, wii or X360 won't never get an AAAAE I say that period without AAAE was certainly worth it.Rhubarb9

The PS3 could have received five AAAAE for all I care, it wouldn't change the fact that it took a year and many months for it to receive an AAA(A)E game. You can complain about the Xbox 360 not having an AAAE all you such please in this short timespan, but at least recognize the PS3 had to climb a very steep hill in order to finally attain an AAA(A)E title -- oh noes, a whole five months have gone by without a single Xbox 360 AAAE -- the world is going to end. :roll:

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#247 Rhubarb9
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but at least recognize the PS3 had to climb a very steep hill in order to finally attain an AAA(A)E title

Stevo_the_gamer



of course, that steep hill was great for sony, hopefully they learnt that people won't just flock to anything you slap the playstation logo on
teached them to less talk the talk and more walk the walk

the AAAAE game wasn't even devloped by sony themselves but a completely unbribed thirdparty developer
which one? in-house or out-house is more ownage?

and yes it has only been 5 months but consider that the only game we know is Halo OOZE coming out nov-dec and any other potential AAAE game that might be revealed at E3 will also probably be released by that period while sony is pumping out god of war 3, heavy rain uncharted 3 etc etc etc etc

how long can lems live in the past before they crack under the system wars ownage?

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#248 GundamGuy0
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I don't know of any for the Wii, but I've got games lined up for all year... so I'm happy.

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#249 killa4lyfe
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="glenn2709"]Just wait and see.adizorz

The irony...

i think he was making a joke on purpose, but yes i thought the same thing when i read that lol.

anyway microsoft usually reveals its exclusives much closer to the release date than sony or nintendo do, i think its part of its marketing strategy to not only make the hype for the game really high, but also extremeley dense.

and can you count halo:OSDT an actual game?

just be happy your getting tekken at all, its not really been said clearcut anywhere but the game was delayed because of the xbox360, and if the ps3 version is gimped in anyway... you better hope your xboxes rrod so i feel sympathetic towards you and decide not to take your thumbs, imagine gaming without thumbs, yer thats right, pretty scary, oh wait they have that already its called the wii or something.*SHUDDER*

/sarcasm

Tekken would be the 360s second AAAA. MARK MY WORDS ;)
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#250 killa4lyfe
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I don't know of any for the Wii, but I've got games lined up for all year... so I'm happy.

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HOLY CRAP U HAVE 571 TROPHIES!!!OMG :cry: i have like nothing compared to u....