Who is the most overrated figurehead in the gaming industry?

koijima. he's not bad, its just that he failed with MGS4, and that all the cows say he's a god.

whoever said miyamoto is mad.

Peter Molyneux annoys me a lot. He has the most arrogant air I can think of. It might just be a joke at this point, though.

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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"] Peter Molyneux created a sub-genre, more then I can say for Kojima and Cliff Bleszinskyohthemanatee

Not really, Kojima and the Metal Gear series seems to be more appreciated and more of a success in the gaming community.

how is that related to what I said? Kojima's games are sucessfull be he never created anything new. The stealth genre already existed before kojima

Molyneux created the god games. and He still creates great games

[QUOTE="StrifeXIII"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Dude....SMG2?!funsohng

I didn't think they had come out publicly said it. It had been listed before as unspecified.

Kitase he's a bit of a one trick pony,Molenuex hasnt done anything good since the bullfrog days even tho i did enjoy B&W its just sooo meh.

And Kojima is just a legend like Miyamoto both of those guys have been round since the dawn of the modern gaming age MG1 was pretty insane for its time and im sure that it was one of the first stealth based action games way back on the MSX,and he's made some lesseer known games like Lunar Knights,ZoE,Snatcher,Policenauts (which some modern MGS draws some takes from) and Boktai.

Tbh i dont need to bother bout Miyamoto.

I would say Nomura.

John Carmack cuz the rest of them kicks ass

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LOL "or mabey should just shut up" the poll title says. Oh I wonder what has happened recently to involk this kind of poll title? Hmmmmmmm I wonder?:lol: Anyhow Kojima was my vote.

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Not really, Kojima and the Metal Gear series seems to be more appreciated and more of a success in the gaming community.

TSNAKE617

how is that related to what I said? Kojima's games are sucessfull be he never created anything new. The stealth genre already existed before kojima

Molyneux created the god games. and He still creates great games

God games, an RTS in which you are a god and only control your armies indirectly.

As far as I know the first game of it's type was Populous, made by Peter Molyneux he then went on to perfect his formula with games like Dungeon Keeper and black and white

Actraiser is an action platformer with a very slight hint of a god game, also you should try to play a little more PC games every now and then

No one is overrated in the industry

Maybe Peter Molyneux

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Kaz H. Because he's a tool.

rgsniper1

how is he a tool?

hes quite a nice guy

even after everyone made fun of him about riiiddddggeee racer

see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCli0xegZ-o&feature=related

even after gabe bashed the ps3, kaz still didnt mind him showing at sony's E3

Carmack. The guy is a great programmer, but he doesn't have a creative bone in his whole body.

But outside that list, it's totally Itagaki. This guy loves his crappy games.

goblaa

John Carmack cuz the rest of them kicks ass

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His the one and his team who builded shooters fundaments and without them there games would look diffrent :)

I'd say the following.

Miyamoto - needs to focus less on casual oriented games, for gamers enjoyment...I'm not saying it's what he should do...it's what I want him to do

Jaffy - Stop being so bad with your own PR at times.

Peter moly - Stop praising your games and maybe we will try to enjoy them without being dissapointed that I can't watch 5000 leaves on a tree change colors individually as the season changes and my character gets wrinkles.

Kojima - Make us something other than MGS, I love it...but I want to see something new, or hell a old IP.

Cliffy B - Stop thinking your the only person who is good at making games.

I would say Nomura.

Seabas989

I don't know, Versus looks promising more then FFXIII was

Carmack. The guy is a great programmer, but he doesn't have a creative bone in his whole body.

But outside that list, it's totally Itagaki. This guy loves his crappy games.

goblaa

Do you realise that Carmack is a programmer and doesn't actually design games? somebody else does that.

EDIT: I also consider the programming that he does to be very creative

Cliffy B.

I've never really liked the Carmack games. but i do recognize what he brought to the gaming world.

of all figureheads i guess i'd say Peter Molyneux. practically never believe a word he says...

as i refer it to... those sweet sweet lies....

None of these people are figureheads. They're all well established devs.

A figurehead would be a person like Kaz. He doesn't really do anything...nice guy, though.

Cliffy B.

Cliffy B is never ever praised by anyone, so he should be off the list :P. I would say Kojima is the most overrated. When I think of him all that comes to mind is MGS.

Hideo Kojima.

I swear, that man must have been on something when he made some of those Metal Gear games. :P

that little black boythat does the new psp ads

I'd say the following.

Miyamoto - needs to focus less on casual oriented games, for gamers enjoyment...I'm not saying it's what he should do...it's what I want him to do

Jaffy - Stop being so bad with your own PR at times.

Peter moly - Stop praising your games and maybe we will try to enjoy them without being dissapointed that I can't watch 5000 leaves on a tree change colors individually as the season changes and my character gets wrinkles.

Kojima - Make us something other than MGS, I love it...but I want to see something new, or hell a old IP.

Cliffy B - Stop thinking you make good games.

Jynxzor

Cliff whoever from Gears of War and David Jaffe.

I think you should change thetopic TC to Who is the worst figurehead in the gaming industry because saying overrated is just weird.These people are also not figureheads because then they would have no power and they actually have some control over their gaming companies or studios. I woild say that nobody in that list is overrated. I seriously don't get wy people are saying Miayamoto is overrated?

All 20 of you who chose Miyamoto, expect me to show up at your house at midnight with a chainsaw.... :P. Cmon respect the man, overrated? Ya only if you're a fanboy and hate Nintendo can you not appreciate what he did, and even then it's hard.

Cliffy B easily. Why's hes considered such a great figurehead? He made Unreal Tournament and Gears of War basically, two games that while perhaps great, are both generic. Unreal Tournament isn't worth my time when there are much better online shooters out there, and Gears of War has killed me with its ridiculously painful on the eyes graphics... until now that is, with Gears 3 adding in some more color I am VERY interested. Also the woman has slightly less ridiculous muscle so I could play as her and pretend she's a normal guy hahaha.

Peter Molyneux. The guy praises his own games, but in reality they're either mediocre or just bad.aaronmullan

I think you should change thetopic TC to Who is the worst figurehead in the gaming industry because saying overrated is just weird.These people are also not figureheads because then they would have no power and they actually have some control over their gaming companies or studios. I woild say that nobody in that list is overrated. I seriously don't get wy people are saying Miayamoto is overrated?

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I would say Nomura.

ShadowriverUB

I don't know, Versus looks promising more then FFXIII was

I liked XIII from what i played. But I wouldn't put Nomura high on the developers list. But Versus could be a great game and I will give it a shot if I ever have the chance.

I like everybody on there (Including Molyneux, please don't kill me :P) But I chose Miyamoto. It's not that I hate the guy. I just think everybody praises his games like the second coming of the messiah. They're not perfect tens, more like solid 8's

I thinkthat guy from theFable series. He seems to always promise something ground breaking, and then the game comes out,while it is a good title, but not ground breaking!John Carmack would be my second choice. He always seems to end up in some article, talking about how they have maxed the 360, or having trouble programming on the PS3, but come to think of it there best looking game to me was , and still is, Doom for the original Xbox. I think Doom looks better than Quake 4 on the 360! But Carmack is supposed to be some kind of programming god??

Kojima, Miyamoto, Sakaguchi, Uematsu

All proven, excellent developers that are placed on a pedestal a little too high.

Kojima for sure. What has he done? only made one franchise? He didn't even create a genre like some of the other people in the industry (Carmack, Miyamoto)

Peter Molyneux

Cliff and Hideo.

The thread seems to be asking two different questions:

Who is overrated by their fanbase?

And...

Who overrates themselves, and/or needs to be less outspoken? Developers that should probably realise that we'd rather they spend their time productively running their studios, instead of running their mouths.

For the former from the poll, probably Hideo Kojima. Although, I don't think he's ever struck me as much of a loudmouth. Also Tetsuya Nomura. Possibly Miyamoto.

For the latter, developers like Molyneux, Bleszinski, David Jaffe, Itagaki, David Cage from Quantic Dream, Yamauchi, Dan Greenwald from Turn 10, the Bioware guys. To varying degrees of course.

I prefer the quiet auteur, like Fumito Ueda (ICO, Shadows of the Colossus, The Last Guardian.) I don't recall ever seeing him create headlines by saying stupid things.

How is peter molyneux not on this list. outside of black and white. when has he ever been that damn good?jg4xchamp

Dungeon Keeper, Populous, Syndicate, Fable 2

Despite the fact that i love his games, ive always thought Itagaki was placed way too high on the pedestal. People were mentioning how Team Ninja will now be crap because hes left. I just dont think he was that impactful.