Why are some pc gamers hating on the ps4 sooo much?

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#101 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]At 30 frames it will. 

slipknot0129

No it wont.... your deluding yourself just like stating the next xbox would have a top tier gpu

Alot of the consoles games would look so much worse at 60 frames. 30 frames allows them to display twice the amount of visuals compared to 60 frames. So in Ps4's case the 30 fps games will look like games played at 60 frames on a gtx 680. 

Do you even know what you're saying ?

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#102 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Merex760"] I'm primarily a PC gamer and I'm very much looking forward to the PS4. Sony and Nintendo consoles have always been amazing supplements to PC gaming unlike the Xbox consoles. 04dcarraher

Its not a good way to justify the price of a gaming pc lol. Why pc gamers want the consoles want the consoles so weak. 

Why would anyone buy an alienware if they didnt know what their doing?

We humans place value differently on things we want. Its the spice of life. 

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#104 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No it wont.... your deluding yourself just like stating the next xbox would have a top tier gpu Bebi_vegeta

Alot of the consoles games would look so much worse at 60 frames. 30 frames allows them to display twice the amount of visuals compared to 60 frames. So in Ps4's case the 30 fps games will look like games played at 60 frames on a gtx 680. 

Do you even know what you're saying ?

Yeah. For example, say you put a 7850 and gtx 680 at the same settings. They display the same graphics and everything. But one thing is different, and I mean one thing. The frames. For comparisons sake, the 7850 got 30 frames and the gtx 680 got 60 frames. Picking the 7850 aka Ps4 would mean they are getting the same settings the gtx 680 is at but at 30 frames. 

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#105 I_can_haz
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Purely insecurity.

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#106 Rattlesnake_8
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Because it's a console.

Something that puts the drag on PC.

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#107 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Alot of the consoles games would look so much worse at 60 frames. 30 frames allows them to display twice the amount of visuals compared to 60 frames. So in Ps4's case the 30 fps games will look like games played at 60 frames on a gtx 680. 

slipknot0129

Do you even know what you're saying ?

Yeah. For example, say you put a 7850 and gtx 680 at the same settings. They display the same graphics and everything. But one thing is different, and I mean one thing. The frames. For comparisons sake, the 7850 got 30 frames and the gtx 680 got 60 frames. Picking the 7850 aka Ps4 would mean they are getting the same settings the gtx 680 is at but at 30 frames. 

Well yeah, if they both have identical setting... this is very much obvious.

But you're saying one has more graphics or something imcomprehensive ???

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#108 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Do you even know what you're saying ?

Bebi_vegeta

Yeah. For example, say you put a 7850 and gtx 680 at the same settings. They display the same graphics and everything. But one thing is different, and I mean one thing. The frames. For comparisons sake, the 7850 got 30 frames and the gtx 680 got 60 frames. Picking the 7850 aka Ps4 would mean they are getting the same settings the gtx 680 is at but at 30 frames. 

Well yeah, if they both have identical setting... this is very much obvious.

But you're saying one has more graphics or something imcomprehensive ???

More graphics per frame i'd say. Like twice the graphics per frame. 

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#109 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah. For example, say you put a 7850 and gtx 680 at the same settings. They display the same graphics and everything. But one thing is different, and I mean one thing. The frames. For comparisons sake, the 7850 got 30 frames and the gtx 680 got 60 frames. Picking the 7850 aka Ps4 would mean they are getting the same settings the gtx 680 is at but at 30 frames. 

slipknot0129

Well yeah, if they both have identical setting... this is very much obvious.

But you're saying one has more graphics or something imcomprehensive ???

More graphics per frame i'd say. Like twice the graphics per frame. 

Twice the graphic per frame ? Are you talking about 3D?

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#110 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well yeah, if they both have identical setting... this is very much obvious.

But you're saying one has more graphics or something imcomprehensive ???

Bebi_vegeta

More graphics per frame i'd say. Like twice the graphics per frame. 

Twice the graphic per frame ? Are you talking about 3D?

No. Adding 3d would makes it less graphics per frame. 

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#111 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]More graphics per frame i'd say. Like twice the graphics per frame. 

slipknot0129

Twice the graphic per frame ? Are you talking about 3D?

No. Adding 3d would makes it less graphics per frame. 

WTH ?!!!!??!? 

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#112 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Twice the graphic per frame ? Are you talking about 3D?

Bebi_vegeta

No. Adding 3d would makes it less graphics per frame. 

WTH ?!!!!??!? 

Yeah 3d has to be rendered twice. 

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#113 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]No. Adding 3d would makes it less graphics per frame. 

slipknot0129

WTH ?!!!!??!? 

Yeah 3d has to be rendered twice. 

Which is what you're saying... twice the graphics...

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#114 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

WTH ?!!!!??!? 

Bebi_vegeta

Yeah 3d has to be rendered twice. 

Which is what you're saying... twice the graphics...

No, I said twice the graphics per frame. 

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#115 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah 3d has to be rendered twice. 

slipknot0129

Which is what you're saying... twice the graphics...

No, I said twice the graphics per frame. 

The PS4 or 680 ?

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apparently I take up free rent in these guys heads :lol:

I got plenty of room upstairs bro. I haven't devoted all my neurons to trolling like you did. While you're inside my head, go ahead and visit some fond memories of me playing videogames. Rumour has it, lemmings don't know how that feels like.

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#117 jake44
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I'm a big Sony fan myself...but the damned ram stuff is getting really old.
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#118 gpuking
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

It basicly is around gtx 580 in power. Helps a lot with system optimization and games being played at 30 frames. Its more powerful than the pc guys expected it to be. One guy said the max gpu that will be in there is a 100w one. Ps4 has a gpu in between an 7850 and 7970, thats more than 130w for a gpu. 

I guess techically the Ps4 would be outputting visuals of a gtx 680 since it will be at 30 frames and pc guys like to play at 60 frames. 

They might hate that the Ps4 is this powerful because visuals are the reason they bought a gaming pc in the first place. 

Now some kid will come over to their house and say they cant tell a difference, then the guy with the gaming pc is left poker faced. But I spent $500 on this card. 

04dcarraher

Hermits whould want the PS 4 to be as powerful as possible. Better consoles means better graphics on multiplats.

:lol: slippy leave the misinformation and wrong crap at the door before posting. The PS4 gpu is not close to a GTX 580 its more in line with a GTX 560ti (448) or a slightly overclocked 7850 at best. There is no way the PS4 will produce visuals even close to a GTX 680 or 7970 those gpu's are 2x faster then PS4 gpu able to render alot more on screen at any time.

Use 7850 2gb as base line for PS4, and the engineering sample in these charts for next xbox gpu performance.

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First of all the gpu inside PS4 is slightly more powerful than a vanilla 7850, now a 1.84tf gpu inside a closed box environment can punch way more above its class according to Tim Lotte (FXAA guy) and DF. From the look of things a 7850 inside a ps4 could very well perform like a 7870 or even a 7950.
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#119 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah 3d has to be rendered twice. 

slipknot0129

Which is what you're saying... twice the graphics...

No, I said twice the graphics per frame. 

WTF are you trying to say!

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#120 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] :lol: slippy leave the misinformation and wrong crap at the door before posting. The PS4 gpu is not close to a GTX 580 its more in line with a GTX 560ti (448) or a slightly overclocked 7850 at best. There is no way the PS4 will produce visuals even close to a GTX 680 or 7970 those gpu's are 2x faster then PS4 gpu able to render alot more on screen at any time. 04dcarraher

Why are you responding to me? The PS 4 could surely run Crysis 3 close to max at 30 fps 1080p. Differences between near max and max settings are barely noticable.

wasnt not responding to you with that post sorry for the confusion, But a 7850 type gpu (PS4) cant nearly max Crysis 3 at 1080. even you a gtx 670 barely makes it past 35 fps avg.

nvidia-geforce-314-07-whql-drivers-crysi

You must have never tested all the different aa methods. If you had you would know that 2x smaa looks almost identical to 4x msaa yet has nowhere near the performance hit in Crysis 3. Also the visual difference between very high shaders and medium are minute while the performance difference is huge.
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#121 slipknot0129
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Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

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#122 Bebi_vegeta
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Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

What's your god damn point ?

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#123 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

Bebi_vegeta

What's your god damn point ?

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

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#124 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

What's your god damn point ?

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

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#125 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

What's your god damn point ?

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

That's yet to be seen.  And the problem with running at 30fps is that it can easily deep below into somewhat unplayable frame rates.  

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#126 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Another way to put it is that the Ps4 will play at the same settings as the gtx 680 if the gtx 680 was running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

What's your god damn point ?

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

How are PC gamers mad when you said the PS4 geting 30fps while PC 60fps... same settings.

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What's your god damn point ?

lostrib

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

That's yet to be seen.  And the problem with running at 30fps is that it can easily deep below into somewhat unplayable frame rates.  

Will be less dips than this gen. 

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#128 slipknot0129
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What's your god damn point ?

Bebi_vegeta

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

How are PC gamers mad when you said the PS4 geting 30fps while PC 60fps... same settings.

It doesnt make their pc setup look anything special to the console gamers. 

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Hate implies we care for it. We don't, thus we don't hate.
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#130 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

How are PC gamers mad when you said the PS4 geting 30fps while PC 60fps... same settings.

It doesnt make their pc setup look anything special to the console gamers. 

That didn't answer the question.

Obviously 60FPS >>>> 30FPS.

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#131 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

slipknot0129

That's yet to be seen.  And the problem with running at 30fps is that it can easily deep below into somewhat unplayable frame rates.  

Will be less dips than this gen. 

Uh,that is also yet to be seen. 

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#132 MakeMeaSammitch
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PC gamers hate everybody who has lost their virginity.

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#133 Bebi_vegeta
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PC gamers hate everybody who has lost their virginity.

MakeMeaSammitch

I wonder how you figued that one out.

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PC gamers hate everybody who has lost their virginity.

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Only a pc gamer would know that, why reveal our greatest secret?

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[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

PC gamers hate everybody who has lost their virginity.

Alienware_fan

Only a pc gamer would know that, why reveal our greatest secret?

Might have to sig this.

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#136 funsohng
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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What's your god damn point ?

Bebi_vegeta

That pc gamers will be mad that the consoles are running at the same settings or better of a gtx 680 running at 60 frames. 

How are PC gamers mad when you said the PS4 geting 30fps while PC 60fps... same settings.

Because 30fps is so f*cking cinematic it will blow your f*cking mind. 60fps is too real, so boring.
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#137 lostrib
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PC gamers hate everybody who has lost their virginity.

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That would explain why I hate myself

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I hate consoles because the overall quality of games would be much higher if it wasn't for developers catering to the console market of OCD ADHD autists

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I hate consoles because the overall quality of games would be much higher if it wasn't for developers catering to the console market of OCD ADHD autists

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#140 Cranler
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I hate consoles because the overall quality of games would be much higher if it wasn't for developers catering to the console market of OCD ADHD autists

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Cinematic shooters began on pc. COD 1 and HL 2 paved the way for todays games.
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#141 Epak_
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[QUOTE="redskins26rocs"]I dont see hate on the ps4 by pc gamers just defending their platform from ignorant sony fanboys who think they know hardware and the magic of GDDR504dcarraher

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#142 lamprey263
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if you're asking then you clearly are missing the point of this forum
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#143 PAL360
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1 - PS4 is more powerful than we all thought next gen consoles would be (This should actualy make PC gamers happy, since it will not be holding down PC games, for a while).

2 - Cows are annoying. It's like Teh Cell again, but at least now, cows have a fair reason to be happy. Unlike PS3, PS4 isn't just smoke and mirrors.

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#144 hippiesanta
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because pc gamers can't afford the actual game.... they go for Pirates although not feeling proud of it
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#145 milannoir
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They are not hating on the PS4 they are hating on the PS4 fanboys..

These are people that know nothing about hardware yet constantly hype it up and all for a machine that does not even exist yet

naz99

This. If "hting" means making fun of ignorant people trying to explain how "advanced" their out-of-date box really is, then PC gamers are definitely hatin'.

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#146 Snugenz
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It's more or less a result of the cow arrogance and their premature declaration of victory.Xaero_Gravity

This, i'm actually really hyped for the PS4 but cow hype is so off the charts they bring any criticism on themselves.

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#147 clyde46
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because pc gamers can't afford the actual game.... they go for Pirates although not feeling proud of ithippiesanta
Yes, lets ignore the massive number of console pirates.
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#148 ronvalencia
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Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

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Wait for jail break and install Windows X64 on it. LOL at Mactels laptops with Windows 7 client sites.

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#149 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

ronvalencia

Wait for jail break and install Windows X64 on it.

That will be lulzy.
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#150 HalcyonScarlet
Member since 2011 • 13841 Posts

They're not hating, it's just the cows are over excited by the PS4, to the point they're declaring it champion of all gaming and the winner of the next generation and they're mad they're the only ones who think like this.