Why are some pc gamers hating on the ps4 sooo much?

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#201 Pug-Nasty
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PC enthusiasts dislike consoles because their hardware is fixed and they are popular, which leads to games not evolving much in any console generation, including on PC.

 

They probably hate on how common less powerful gaming PCs are, though give voice to it less because it doesn't suit their cause as much.

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#202 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]What does a 1000$ card have anything to do with not having 8GDDR5 ? I could have a 8GDDR5 of ram with a peice of crap GPU... making the ram useless.

If the most important part of PC is ram for gaming, then holy crap I don't know how to build a gaming PC.

Console always had that advantage of coding... it's nothing new.

tormentos

You people can claim blindly now that memory is not important,the top dog making graphical games on PC disagree.

Of course memory is important. But, it's main use is to keep the CPU and GPU fed with data. Faster memory isn't going to help much if slower memory is sufficient enough to keep up with the processing done by both GPU and CPU.

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#203 AcidThunder
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no one's hating on the PS4 as such. they are hating the fanboys who are hyping the fvck out of GDDR5 without knowing a thing about it
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#204 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The thing about PC is, you decided how expensive you want it to be.tormentos
Yeah but that is what you will get,a PS4 will deliver a complete system for $400 probably,on PC $400 will not get you even close to PS4 performance.

yeah and i cant run Ms office on Ps4 plus you dont know the price of PS4 so you cant put a value yet . It might as well been 600 like the Ps3
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#205 clyde46
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I see that Tormentos is still talking crap.
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#206 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]What does a 1000$ card have anything to do with not having 8GDDR5 ? I could have a 8GDDR5 of ram with a peice of crap GPU... making the ram useless.

If the most important part of PC is ram for gaming, then holy crap I don't know how to build a gaming PC.

Console always had that advantage of coding... it's nothing new.

tormentos
This post here show how stupid some poster here are specially hermit and miss inform to. YOU CAN'T GET 8GB OF GDDR5 ON PC AND PAIR IT WITH A CRAPPY GPU. GDDR5 is not available for system ram,and the quantity been pair with GPU's now is far less,in other words the PS4 has as much ram than a $1,000 dollars GPU the Gforce Titan. You will not see a cripple GPU with 8GB of GDDR5,the PS4 having that amount is quite a novelty,even for PC on PC you see 16GB or ram,but is DDR3 not GDDR5,only special hardware on PC had such amounts. "'Memory is the single most important thing that is always going to be underbalanced - I've never seen a console where the memory was the right balance. "Xbox 360, underbalanced. PlayStation 3, underbalanced. Simply because memory is the most expensive part, hence I wish there would be cheaper ways of doing memory so that memory doesn't become an issue anymore." He added: "If they find ways to cheapen the cost to a degree they could triple or quadruple their memory. Just say, 'Hey we're going to have 32 gigs of memory'. That would be quite amazing because memory can do so many more techniques and tricks."' http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383271/crytek-ceo-drops-possible-hint-at-8gb-of-ram-in-next-gen-consoles/ Crytek on how important Ram is.. You people can claim blindly now that memory is not important,the top dog making graphical games on PC disagree.

They talk about consoles how the memory is unbalanced As long as you have a certain amount of memory for stuff to work adding more memory wont increase the performance Guess what Gpu between a 2gb gtx 680 or a 4gb version of 7850 is faster Also by the time PS4 is on the market DDR4 is rumored to hit the market also which is quite the performance increase over DDR3
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#207 crippledmachine
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The biggest factor for the hate towards consoles is that many games are designed for consoles and are not using the PC's potential.

We call these games "consolised". They are dumbed down in order to please console gamers. These games are often rubbish.

The world would be a better place if the PC is being played by more people, which in return means more games being geared towards the real platform.

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#208 mitu123
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no one's hating on the PS4 as such. they are hating the fanboys who are hyping the fvck out of GDDR5 without knowing a thing about itAcidThunder
Yes, they're bragging about GDDR5, something that started on PC back in 2008, and then relying on that aspect mainly even though their gpu isn't even high end.XD

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#209 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="AcidThunder"]no one's hating on the PS4 as such. they are hating the fanboys who are hyping the fvck out of GDDR5 without knowing a thing about itmitu123

Yes, they're bragging about GDDR5, something that started on PC back in 2008, and then relying on that aspect mainly even though their gpu isn't even high end.XD

 

The only posts about GDDR5 are people complaining about hype which doesn't exist.  I've yet to see anyone hype the ram type or even mention it outside of the cases I mentioned.

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#210 Midnightshade29
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]I don't know about everyone else but I'm looking forward to adding the PS4 along side my PC.FinalFighters

This!!! Day 1... it fill fit nice under the tv.. and my pc will be on the other end of my finished basement... 50" tv and ps3/ps4 on one end and gaming/office desktop on the other end. I play my pc when my wife and kids are on the tv. When you work for your money and have your own place you can do this thing called "owning both".
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#211 gamecubepad
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Who's hating the PS4? Thing is godly in design compared to the PS3. Cutting-edge AMD APU, x86, tons of RAM. It's like canned redemption for Sony.

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#212 Midnightshade29
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Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

ferret-gamer

Why do console gamers seem to think PC gamers want the next gen consoles to be weak? We spent the last 6 years being held back by old hardware. Do you think that PC gamers want to continue that trend? No, we want more powerful hardware and console so games can continue to advance.

this didn't used to be a problem pre 2005... pc was always way more advanced than consoles and developers and publishers made AAA games for pc... then all we mostly got is console ports unless indie. I miss the days of getting games like Vampire the masquarde: bloodlines, gothic 1 and 2, Homeworld 1 and 2, black and white, Age of empires, Freelancer, Clive Barkers undying, Thief 1 and 2, etc.... Games that were made with pc in mind. The xbox destroyed this!!! And i vowed back then not to support M$ as foresaw them taking away pc devs to console development... and nobody listened... they all said it wouldn't happen... well the rest is history. And pc has been riddled with console ports for a long time now. The last game to take advantage of graphics tech to the max came out 6 years ago... Sad but true.

 

the only pc-centric games I can remember from the last 6 years were stalker, the witcher, crysis 1 or mmos... everything else has been console ports.

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#213 Alienware_fan
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No one hates the PS4 We are hating some delusional cows that think PS4 is the second coming and the endless GDDR5 threads they created in the span of 3 weeks since Ps4 announcementadamosmaki
I have seen way more anti ram threads made by hermits though.

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#214 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The thing about PC is, you decided how expensive you want it to be.tormentos
Yeah but that is what you will get,a PS4 will deliver a complete system for $400 probably,on PC $400 will not get you even close to PS4 performance.

Some hermits wont agree with you there still.

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#215 tormentos
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah and i cant run Ms office on Ps4 plus you dont know the price of PS4 so you cant put a value yet . It might as well been 600 like the Ps3

WTF would i want to run MS Office on my console.. The PS4 doesn't run it because first is from MS and second why would MS make windows office for consoles to do what.? In fact with the spec the PS4 has if MS did office for the PS4 it would run just find.. Oh it will not be $600 sony already confirmed that..
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#216 Cranler
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

Havent seen alot of hate for the PS4, seen LOTS of hate for the fanboys and trolls.

The thing that bugs most people is how very little is known about the PS4 hardware, what we do know sounded good, but what we do know is pretty much the RAM alone, there have been theoretical guesses on the rest of the system.

How long did it take for the forums to be flooded with a near religious worship of the GDDR5 Ram though? If I remember there were about 15 threads within 30 mins of the conferance, and the ball just kept rolling with the unrealistic babble of the console and the RAM.

I have seen very little people downplaying the PS4, from any group of people really, alot of people stating that it would not be wise to say alot about it untill we have a final box we could measure and test. But Nooo, 30 mins and the threads about "Sony Owenage" poured in. Mostly trolls sure.

SO basicly what people hate on is not the PS4, it is the Cows, that are demonstrating the pure dribbeling insanity of a mental patient. And then gets overly passive agressive when people point out the facts that tey really don't know alot about the system yet.

PC gamers who love specs and tinkering with hardware likely found this blind near erligious faith annoying considering how big the holes in what are known really are.

This is another kind of hypocrite post. So you have been for 6 years trowing on consolites how ram starved their consoles are,now all of a sudden sony say hey we will have 8GB of GDDR5 which not even $1000 dollar cards have and suddenly Ram is sh** ram is not important oh the ram is the new Cell.. Ram without question is one of the most important parts of a PC,even Crytek highly this many other developers to,maybe they know something you don't. The PS4 has more than 1 advantage over PC,is not just ram,the whole system architecture is build from ground up to be simply more efficient,from the Apu point of view GPU and CPU on the same die with a common memory address,which will increase efficiency and lower latency,to been push right to the metal something that on PC can't be done now.. There are more like having to carry a bloated OS,having multiple chips to help with task rather than let them to the CPU and use its resources. Sure there is always the crazy fan but is not always that way,and some hermit are so blinded that they basically ignore open quote from developers them self,the people who make the games they play with.

Titan is used on machines that already have 6 or more gigs of system ram silly. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb of vram at 1080p.
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#217 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah and i cant run Ms office on Ps4 plus you dont know the price of PS4 so you cant put a value yet . It might as well been 600 like the Ps3

WTF would i want to run MS Office on my console.. The PS4 doesn't run it because first is from MS and second why would MS make windows office for consoles to do what.? In fact with the spec the PS4 has if MS did office for the PS4 it would run just find.. Oh it will not be $600 sony already confirmed that..

Any link for the confirmation And the MS office is an example that Pc is more than just gaming so you cant compare a $300-400 console to an 800pc and say console holds so much more value but i guess you cant understand it
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#218 Shadowchronicle
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Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

Alienware_fan
Everyone hates on new release of anything in SW. /thread
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#219 Cranler
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Just how powerful is the PS4 CPU compared to contemporary PC CPUs? I mean the PS4 RAM and GPU has been hyped a lot. But, I haven't really heard much about the PS4 CPU.

Oh the CPU is much weaker than top of the line CPU,which will cost you basically what the PS4 cost. But the PS4 doesn't need an ultra powerful CPU,the CPU on PS4 doesn't even has to handle an OS the there is a chip for that,it doesn't have to run background task like PC's do,it has extra help so the whole 8 cores are for gaming...

A well maintained pc is typically at 0-4% cpu usage when idle.
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#220 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Just how powerful is the PS4 CPU compared to contemporary PC CPUs? I mean the PS4 RAM and GPU has been hyped a lot. But, I haven't really heard much about the PS4 CPU.

Oh the CPU is much weaker than top of the line CPU,which will cost you basically what the PS4 cost. But the PS4 doesn't need an ultra powerful CPU,the CPU on PS4 doesn't even has to handle an OS the there is a chip for that,it doesn't have to run background task like PC's do,it has extra help so the whole 8 cores are for gaming...

A well maintained pc is typically at 0-4% cpu usage when idle.

and an i5 for $200 isnt exactly the whole PS4 price especially since we dont even know the price
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#221 lostrib
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah and i cant run Ms office on Ps4 plus you dont know the price of PS4 so you cant put a value yet . It might as well been 600 like the Ps3tormentos
WTF would i want to run MS Office on my console.. The PS4 doesn't run it because first is from MS and second why would MS make windows office for consoles to do what.? In fact with the spec the PS4 has if MS did office for the PS4 it would run just find.. Oh it will not be $600 sony already confirmed that..

source?

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#222 Cranler
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] yeah and i cant run Ms office on Ps4 plus you dont know the price of PS4 so you cant put a value yet . It might as well been 600 like the Ps3tormentos
WTF would i want to run MS Office on my console.. The PS4 doesn't run it because first is from MS and second why would MS make windows office for consoles to do what.? In fact with the spec the PS4 has if MS did office for the PS4 it would run just find.. Oh it will not be $600 sony already confirmed that..

Point he's making is that the pc has many more capabilities than a console. Even simple things like web browsing works way better on a pc.
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#223 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]You can make up any excuse you want why ebay is a bad idea but I have not had any problems so far. Also I bought mine still under warranty. If it broke I send it back to amd. Only a sucker pays retail lmao. If you know what your looking for buy it online and save big. I can understand if it is a hot item like the ps4 will be but soon they will be marked down and/or used. Then I will get one cheaper and have games to play plus all the bugs will be known/fixed. Call me cheap if you wish but I learned early that you don't have to be rich to have nice things. tormentos
You don't get warranty for Ebay GPU that is a new one for me. Please show some proof because as you can see you can type any sh** on this board and doesn't mean is true. Buying xbox live number over the internet is one thing,buying an electronic device second hand from god knows who on Ebay is not.

XFX has double lifetime warranty...

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#224 AlexKidd5000
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]I don't know about everyone else but I'm looking forward to adding the PS4 along side my PC.FinalFighters

If it turns out to be good, so do I. But so far, I'm not excited by the hype.
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#225 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The thing about PC is, you decided how expensive you want it to be.tormentos
Yeah but that is what you will get,a PS4 will deliver a complete system for $400 probably,on PC $400 will not get you even close to PS4 performance.

I can't do half the things I want with a PS4... So I just get a PC and do everything. If PS4 has must play games, then I'll just buy one. Last time I got a PS3, and sold it for lack of time I had to play games... Also, I just wanted to play Heavy rain.

Also stop making prices here... keep making things up as they go.

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#226 tormentos
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] They talk about consoles how the memory is unbalanced As long as you have a certain amount of memory for stuff to work adding more memory wont increase the performance Guess what Gpu between a 2gb gtx 680 or a 4gb version of 7850 is faster Also by the time PS4 is on the market DDR4 is rumored to hit the market also which is quite the performance increase over DDR3

No dude he clearly say ram is very important look how he talks about 32GB of ram which is basically insane. In fact he say that he expected 8GB minimum from next gen consoles. The 680GTX is faster not only because of the GOU,but because today's games don't use allot more than 2GB,basically Crysis 3 is the one game pushing over 2GB. Considering how low the adoption rate is for high price GPU i would not be surprise to see DDR4 adoption be very low for at least 4 or 5 years if not more.
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#227 clyde46
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="adamosmaki"] They talk about consoles how the memory is unbalanced As long as you have a certain amount of memory for stuff to work adding more memory wont increase the performance Guess what Gpu between a 2gb gtx 680 or a 4gb version of 7850 is faster Also by the time PS4 is on the market DDR4 is rumored to hit the market also which is quite the performance increase over DDR3

No dude he clearly say ram is very important look how he talks about 32GB of ram which is basically insane. In fact he say that he expected 8GB minimum from next gen consoles. The 680GTX is faster not only because of the GOU,but because today's games don't use allot more than 2GB,basically Crysis 3 is the one game pushing over 2GB. Considering how low the adoption rate is for high price GPU i would not be surprise to see DDR4 adoption be very low for at least 4 or 5 years if not more.

DDR4 wont be slow to take hold. It took about 2 years for DDR3 to be industry standard.
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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] They talk about consoles how the memory is unbalanced As long as you have a certain amount of memory for stuff to work adding more memory wont increase the performance Guess what Gpu between a 2gb gtx 680 or a 4gb version of 7850 is faster Also by the time PS4 is on the market DDR4 is rumored to hit the market also which is quite the performance increase over DDR3tormentos
No dude he clearly say ram is very important look how he talks about 32GB of ram which is basically insane. In fact he say that he expected 8GB minimum from next gen consoles. The 680GTX is faster not only because of the GOU,but because today's games don't use allot more than 2GB,basically Crysis 3 is the one game pushing over 2GB. Considering how low the adoption rate is for high price GPU i would not be surprise to see DDR4 adoption be very low for at least 4 or 5 years if not more.

When next gen games/multiplats come out, the gtx 680 will struggle, Mark my word.

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#229 stayhigh1
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no one's hating on the PS4 as such. they are hating the fanboys who are hyping the fvck out of GDDR5 without knowing a thing about itAcidThunder
We are basing our opinion on what developers is saying about the 8GB GDDR5. There is so many of them that came out express nothing but great things about it.. For the developers to praise Sony shows that its really needed  for next gen.. They are really going to take advantage of it and not limited themselves like last gen.. We are hyping it because of that reason.. You fanboys dont know anything about it, too..We got so many so called PC expert, that talk like they know everything..Sorry, i trust the developers more then some random person who keep screaming out PC hardware is superior..We already know that decades ago but no one cares..Hate or love it the PS4 is a high end beast PC console with so many fantastic engines that is  going to be running on it..

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#230 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Cranler"] Point he's making is that the pc has many more capabilities than a console. Even simple things like web browsing works way better on a pc.

Oh but i never question that.. Here so some of you can get this clear. I know PC will always be ahead. I know PC will do more things. I know PC will always be more expensive as well.
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#231 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]What does a 1000$ card have anything to do with not having 8GDDR5 ? I could have a 8GDDR5 of ram with a peice of crap GPU... making the ram useless.

If the most important part of PC is ram for gaming, then holy crap I don't know how to build a gaming PC.

Console always had that advantage of coding... it's nothing new.

tormentos

This post here show how stupid some poster here are specially hermit and miss inform to. YOU CAN'T GET 8GB OF GDDR5 ON PC AND PAIR IT WITH A CRAPPY GPU. GDDR5 is not available for system ram,and the quantity been pair with GPU's now is far less,in other words the PS4 has as much ram than a $1,000 dollars GPU the Gforce Titan. You will not see a cripple GPU with 8GB of GDDR5,the PS4 having that amount is quite a novelty,even for PC on PC you see 16GB or ram,but is DDR3 not GDDR5,only special hardware on PC had such amounts. "'Memory is the single most important thing that is always going to be underbalanced - I've never seen a console where the memory was the right balance. "Xbox 360, underbalanced. PlayStation 3, underbalanced. Simply because memory is the most expensive part, hence I wish there would be cheaper ways of doing memory so that memory doesn't become an issue anymore." He added: "If they find ways to cheapen the cost to a degree they could triple or quadruple their memory. Just say, 'Hey we're going to have 32 gigs of memory'. That would be quite amazing because memory can do so many more techniques and tricks."' http://www.computerandvideogames.com/383271/crytek-ceo-drops-possible-hint-at-8gb-of-ram-in-next-gen-consoles/ Crytek on how important Ram is.. You people can claim blindly now that memory is not important,the top dog making graphical games on PC disagree.

You very fist statement applies directly to you. 

I never said GDDR5 was available for system ram... Wow...

Look smart guy, there's plenty of weak video cards that have to much GDDR5 then needed because they are under power.

Again, you think that a card cost 1000$ because of 6Gb of GDDDR5, you're... amazing.

I never said that RAM is not important, I said it's not the most important.

Also DDR3 is not all that bad, with triple channel or quad channel and it's low latency... and it's freaking cheap. 

You putting words in my mouth... and then you call hermits stupid... keep climbing that troll road, you're catching up to losingedges.

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#232 tormentos
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When next gen games/multiplats come out, the gtx 680 will struggle, Mark my word.Alienware_fan
I don't think it will at least not until a few year,when games use more than 4GB of ram,it would be a big hit to some GPU that are powerful but that were pair with low quantity of ram.
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#233 Lotus-Edge
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cows getting annoying with their stupid sh!t.rjdofu
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#234 tormentos
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You very fist statement applies directly to you. 

I never said GDDR5 was available for system ram... Wow...

Look smart guy, there's plenty of weak video cards that have to much GDDR5 then needed because they are under power.

Again, you think that a card cost 1000$ because of 6Gb of GDDDR5, you're... amazing.

I never said that RAM is not important, I said it's not the most important.

Also DDR3 is not all that bad, with triple channel or quad channel and it's low latency... and it's freaking cheap. 

You putting words in my mouth... and then you call hermits stupid... keep climbing that troll road, you're catching up to losingedges.

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And more to you even now. How many weak card have 8GB of GDDR5,in fact how many has even 6GB of GDDR5 that are weak.? Who say the Gforce titan cost $1000 because of GDDR5.? Because sony will use 8GB and will cost them like $120,that alone kill your argument because i know,the Gforce Titan remark is so that you could see that the big quantity of ram it has is no joke. In fact there is another matter when it comes to GPU that people forget,nor Nvidia or AMD want you to have a GPU that will last you more than they want,one way to limit what you can do,is paring a great GPU with a not so great quantity of ram,sure it will deliver good performance for some time,but when games start to push forward that GPU will be trap or bottle neck by ram limitations. There is a reason GPU makers abandon DDR3 for GDDR5,the speed more than make for it...
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#235 xgamer401
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Do we have detailed specs of the PS4 GPU? I'm curious to see the # of Stream Processors, Texture Units, ROPs, Core Clock, Memory Clock, and Memory Bus Width.
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#236 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]When next gen games/multiplats come out, the gtx 680 will struggle, Mark my word.tormentos
I don't think it will at least not until a few year,when games use more than 4GB of ram,it would be a big hit to some GPU that are powerful but that were pair with low quantity of ram.

You think games will use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p in the next few years when Crysis 3 is under 2gb at 1080p?
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#237 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"] In fact there is another matter when it comes to GPU that people forget,nor Nvidia or AMD want you to have a GPU that will last you more than they want,one way to limit what you can do,is paring a great GPU with a not so great quantity of ram,sure it will deliver good performance for some time,but when games start to push forward that GPU will be trap or bottle neck by ram limitations. There is a reason GPU makers abandon DDR3 for GDDR5,the speed more than make for it...tormentos
Only reason they would skimp on ram is to stay at a certain price point. How about some examples of cards that had all the specs to run specific games expect for vram.

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#238 Primordialous
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[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Trying to justify paying $1000+ for their PC's is my guess

Alienware_fan

Mine cost less than $700.

Then it aint a gaming pc.

Says the one with the username "Alienware fan". 

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#239 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]When next gen games/multiplats come out, the gtx 680 will struggle, Mark my word.Cranler
I don't think it will at least not until a few year,when games use more than 4GB of ram,it would be a big hit to some GPU that are powerful but that were pair with low quantity of ram.

You think games will use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p in the next few years when Crysis 3 is under 2gb at 1080p?

lol

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#240 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="tormentos"] I don't think it will at least not until a few year,when games use more than 4GB of ram,it would be a big hit to some GPU that are powerful but that were pair with low quantity of ram.Alienware_fan

You think games will use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p in the next few years when Crysis 3 is under 2gb at 1080p?

lol

Lol back. The PS 4 gpu doesnt have the power to handle a game that would use 4gb of vram on pc. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb vram and about 1gb of system ram. Most next gen console games wont go much over that. Wasnt the Killzone demo only using 1.5gb total ram?
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#241 buccomatic
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Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

Alienware_fan
because it's specs already suck compared to high end pc and it hasn't even been released yet. oh and that antiquated controller with a basic dual shock design from 1996 isn't helping them much either.
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#242 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] You think games will use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p in the next few years when Crysis 3 is under 2gb at 1080p?Cranler

lol

Lol back. The PS 4 gpu doesnt have the power to handle a game that would use 4gb of vram on pc. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb vram and about 1gb of system ram. Most next gen console games wont go much over that. Wasnt the Killzone demo only using 1.5gb total ram?

So all that ram in the ps4 is a waste? How come sony/amd didnt know that?

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#243 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

buccomatic

because it's specs already suck compared to high end pc and it hasn't even been released yet. oh and that antiquated controller with a basic dual shock design from 1996 isn't helping them much either.

Well you shouldnt be comparing console to pcs in the frist place. 

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#244 HaloPimp978
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Because they are PC gamers they hate consoles.

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#245 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] You think games will use more than 4gb of vram at 1080p in the next few years when Crysis 3 is under 2gb at 1080p?Cranler

lol

Lol back. The PS 4 gpu doesnt have the power to handle a game that would use 4gb of vram on pc. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb vram and about 1gb of system ram. Most next gen console games wont go much over that. Wasnt the Killzone demo only using 1.5gb total ram?

Some just dont understand that the PS4 will not allocate 4gb or more for the gpu since

1. GPU processing abilities isnt their to make full usage of that much memory (3gb+).
2. at 1080 resolution allocating 4gb is useless and pointless since using texture resolution(detail) above a certain point will not be seen at 1080.
3. Also you can not ignore all other items and features using the unified memory sharing the total amount of memory. Since there is no need to stream the data like current console memory allocation we will see much larger and more complex worlds in games and that uses memory.

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#246 lowkey254
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It's a threat for about a year. In 2 years they'll bash it for being under powered.

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#247 Alienware_fan
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Alienware_fan"]lol

04dcarraher

Lol back. The PS 4 gpu doesnt have the power to handle a game that would use 4gb of vram on pc. Crysis 3 uses about 2gb vram and about 1gb of system ram. Most next gen console games wont go much over that. Wasnt the Killzone demo only using 1.5gb total ram?

Some just dont understand that the PS4 will not allocate 4gb or more for the gpu since

1. GPU processing abilities isnt their to make full usage of that much memory (3gb+).
2. at 1080 resolution allocating 4gb is useless and pointless since using texture resolution(detail) above a certain point will not be seen at 1080.
3. Also you can not ignore all other items and features using the unified memory sharing the total amount of memory. Since there is no need to stream the data like current console memory allocation we will see much larger and more complex worlds in games and that uses memory.

I dont know where you got all these info but if what you are saying is true then there was no point in unified memory if the gpu dosent even use half the ram.

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#248 04dcarraher
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It's a threat for about a year. In 2 years they'll bash it for being under powered.

lowkey254
its not even a threat, since there are already gaming pc's sporting cpu's and gpu's that are multiple times faster before even the console is released.
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#249 1-UPking82
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Some people may feel threatened by it, it's their fault for having such an emotional investment in their system. If people owned all the systems like I do they would realize how silly it is to hate on another, it's like trying to validate their purchase. The PS4 looks awesome, I have no doubt it will rock the industry, this does not mean PC is bad or anything either. However it is normal to have a favorite platform, but that doesn't make it better than another.
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#250 Alienware_fan
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Some people may feel threatened by it, it's their fault for having such an emotional investment in their system. If people owned all the systems like I do they would realize how silly it is to hate on another, it's like trying to validate their purchase. The PS4 looks awesome, I have no doubt it will rock the industry, this does not mean PC is bad or anything either. However it is normal to have a favorite platform, but that doesn't make it better than another.1-UPking82
So true.