Why are some pc gamers hating on the ps4 sooo much?

Good greef your dense, you pay more because you can do more...... And Sony and MS sell at a lost because they know people will not buy expensive consoles where you can spend just as much for a pc to do the same things plus more. Also need to point out that you dont need bleeding edge to match consoles when they release, especially this gen where they are sporting mid tier hardware from the start not high ended hardware. also tou can pick up a overclocked 7870 for $230 on newegg shows what you know..... and again when will you admit that your seeing things that aren't there?04dcarraher

you need to stop tormenting yourself.... The Cell is not an APU since it does not have a gpu that is a fact " APU is described as a processing device which integrates a CPU and an OpenCL compatible GPU on the same die," next , the Sony and MS will still sell at a lost and more so with the PS4 then xbox. Next you still keep on going with efficiency which means squat....

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Trying to justify paying $1000+ for their PC's is my guess

tormentos

I'm not a hater but its worth it to invest in a PC if you game a lot.

My computer was a little over $800 but in terms of gaming it has essentially paid for itself. With all the bundles and cheap games I've been getting the console gamers haven't well. Sucks to be them. PC is worth it in all regards. 

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

Is it because they expected it to be less powerful? I see no other reason.

Alienware_fan

Because Cows have gone batsh!t crazy, claiming the PS4 is so much more powerful than a PC and will be for years.

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

nitekids2004

Don't care, worth it

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

nitekids2004

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

faizan_faizan

Used Games Market, Borrowing a copy from a friend, No DRM, No Origin, No Always Online >>>>> Cheap PC Games.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

nitekids2004

Used Games Market, Borrowing a copy from a friend, No DRM, No Origin, No Always Online >>>>> Cheap PC Games.

Online pass

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I've already got an 8 core CPU in my PC...

What reason would I have to put down a platform that's inferior to my PC already? Simply put; None. I just don't really care for it.

ronvalencia

Didn't you know AMD is pushing PC gaming with HSA? http://www.slideshare.net/zlatan4177/gpgpu-algorithms-in-games

HSA = bypassing DirectX's overhead issues.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I've already got an 8 core CPU in my PC...

What reason would I have to put down a platform that's inferior to my PC already? Simply put; None. I just don't really care for it.

Bebi_vegeta

You got to be joking...

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

 

I'm not a hater but its worth it to invest in a PC if you game a lot.

My computer was a little over $800 but in terms of gaming it has essentially paid for itself. With all the bundles and cheap games I've been getting the console gamers haven't well. Sucks to be them. PC is worth it in all regards. 

Primordialous

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny because consoles will be even more supported than any GPU on PC will,that $800 PC will soon need a new GPU,while the xbox 360 still kicking 8 years and running,the PS3 7 years..tormentos

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

deflection

you need to stop tormenting yourself.... The Cell is not an APU since it does not have a gpu that is a fact " APU is described as a processing device which integrates a CPU and an OpenCL compatible GPU on the same die," next , the Sony and MS will still sell at a lost and more so with the PS4 then xbox. Next you still keep on going with efficiency which means squat....

04dcarraher

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny because consoles will be even more supported than any GPU on PC will,that $800 PC will soon need a new GPU,while the xbox 360 still kicking 8 years and running,the PS3 7 years..tormentos

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Primordialous"]

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

lostrib

deflection

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

nitekids2004

Used Games Market, Borrowing a copy from a friend, No DRM, No Origin, No Always Online >>>>> Cheap PC Games.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Large part... I wouldn't totaly agree, I do enjoy great graphics, but gameplay is probably my main factor of choice and input device (M&K). But I don't see how console can possible do more then 1080p... while PC are not limited too that at all... so graphics and performance ?

Well I haven't seen any comments that seem envious... infact, PS4 seems very welcome... just overly exaggerated by the enthousious PSony fan.

tormentos

Waste of power, not really if you use it to push the resolution higher.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Which is a totally different matter of actually processing and rendering that amount of data fluidly.The cpu and harddrive/optical drive will also be a limiting factor in sending that much data to the gpu.tormentos

The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Which is a totally different matter of actually processing and rendering that amount of data fluidly.The cpu and harddrive/optical drive will also be a limiting factor in sending that much data to the gpu.Bebi_vegeta

The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Investment in PC hardware would probably cost hermits $1500 in a single console cycle.

While PS4 would last for more than 7 years. 

nitekids2004

Used Games Market, Borrowing a copy from a friend, No DRM, No Origin, No Always Online >>>>> Cheap PC Games.

Used game market. = Publishers hate that. They are going to kill it off.

Borrowing games = Same as above DRM 

Your console IS DRM

No Origin = Origin is not bad.

AO = Only two PC games with AO DRM

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Primordialous"]

How is Far Cry 3's 23 FPS going for ya'?

faizan_faizan

The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...Bebi_vegeta

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Fine since i don't like that game and most games run at 30.tormentos

deflection

No you deflected by adding modifying conditions to your answer.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...tormentos

How so?

Waste of power, not really if you use it to push the resolution higher.Bebi_vegeta

How so?lostrib

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] too bad your 8 core cpu will be outclassed by the PS4 entirely...who cares about your CPU bruh..your PC wont be able to produce PS4 graphics xboxiphoneps3

You got to be joking...

PC won't able to produce PS4 graphics ?

Todays CPU are way better then the Jaguar CPU... the only that jaguar has is a integrated GPU with it's design... Which I still prefer a dedicated CPU and GPU.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]How so?tormentos

Were you trying to say that the HDD in the PS4 will be no more of a bottleneck than in a PC?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] No that is you assuming something completely wrong,like it was posted on another thread Jaguar CPU seems under power but is actually more powerful than Cell which still on 2011 deliver some impressive physics simulations. The HDD is hardly a limitation on PC so it would not be on PS4,games can still be partially install or full installs like on PC.clyde46

The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...

I'm talking about HDD... no SSD...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...tormentos

Well you said it's not a limitation to PC... well it is... 

As for PS4, for sure it would benefit from a SSD, but that would cost to much.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] You didn't answer "What most games?"tormentos

that's depressing

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Waste of power, not really if you use it to push the resolution higher.tormentos

For sure it's not 100% efficient.

Nobody is arguing that,but PS2 games aren't even HD at source, very bad example.

But there's a few games were ports were just awefull... dev should take a part of the blame aswell.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]The HDD is probably the biggest bottleneck in a PC...Bebi_vegeta

Well you said it's not a limitation to PC... well it is... 

As for PS4, for sure it would benefit from a SSD, but that would cost to much.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But it will not be more for the PS4 that is my point.tormentos

Well you said it's not a limitation to PC... well it is... 

As for PS4, for sure it would benefit from a SSD, but that would cost to much.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] But it will not be more for the PS4 that is my point.tormentos

Well you said it's not a limitation to PC... well it is... 

As for PS4, for sure it would benefit from a SSD, but that would cost to much.

Obviously was talking about load times and other system needs.

But I heard it helps in ARMA 2 for pop-in.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] No sh1t, Who would've thought this would actually increase frames?tormentos

Loading times were retarded on the PS3... It's not like the first PS4 is gona have a huge HDD either...

Probably mostly due to the Blu ray... 

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] lolnotormentos

actually it's less than 500

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] No sh1t, Who would've thought this would actually increase frames?Bebi_vegeta

Loading times were retarded on the PS3... It's not like the first PS4 is gona have a huge HDD either...

Probably mostly due to the Blu ray... 

actually it's less than 500lostrib

Loading times were retarded on the PS3... It's not like the first PS4 is gona have a huge HDD either...

Probably mostly due to the Blu ray... 

Bebi_vegeta

[QUOTE="lostrib"]actually it's less than 500tormentos

okay, but that's not what you said

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="lostrib"]actually it's less than 500lostrib

okay, but that's not what you said

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] So the performance is the same while losing endless GB of store and raising the price of the PS4.. No Thanks..xboxiphoneps3

Loading times were retarded on the PS3... It's not like the first PS4 is gona have a huge HDD either...

Probably mostly due to the Blu ray... 

Holly cow, where are you getting all this info for HDD ?

It's like you know more then what Sony said... amazing.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Loading times were retarded on the PS3... It's not like the first PS4 is gona have a huge HDD either...

Probably mostly due to the Blu ray... 

tormentos

Well that's great that loading doesn't bother you... it doesn't make it any better.