Why Bioshock, Gears, Mass Effect ARE exclusive

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="ArchAngeL-777"] LOL dude I will give you a ....C for effort. Why not A? Because you continue to pull FRAGMENTS of sentences out to twist to your own meaning. How about adding the rest of that sentence in. You know...front of sentence + back of sentence = entire point. Lets try it: "A 360 gamer has plenty of hits to play on a PC that will NEVER see a console" (front of sentence) + " like WOW, Starcraft, 64 player Battlefield games, etc." (back of sentence) = my point - many current PC hits wont make it to the consoles. Again, the future may change. Thats what is now. I think those eyes your emoticon is rolling are bloodshot...i could recommend some drops...maybe some rest...;)-ArchAngeL-777-

lol hey you said that your statement reflected ONLY the current state of games and NOT the future and I only needed a fragment to show that was false. are you or are you not talking about the future with the word NEVER? lol my eyes is tired thats a fact. its sad when talking about videogames becomes more addicting then actually playing them but writing and logically thinking are probably better for me anyways. too much more of this and ill look like a WoW player. mom! more hotpockets!

Nice I like the upgrade! Anyways Im not sure if you have 360 or not but I got COD4 too and my screen name is the same as my Gamespot name.

EDIT: oops just looked more closely at your sig. nevermind lol.

it is kindof a grey area

like are exclusive games for windows exclusive to M$?

akif22

yep! why not? you pay for the OS just like you pay for the system. sure your pc is made of proprietrary parts but so is the 360!

They arent exclusive

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There not

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There not

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Lemmywinks_360

Hold on slick not so fast!

*reopens thread*

care to elaborate?

[QUOTE="Lemmywinks_360"]

There not

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L1qu1dSword

Hold on slick not so fast!

*reopens thread*

care to elaborate?

very simple. if you can play it on another platform its not exclusive. all of them are on pc therefore not exclusive.

They are NOT. I played Bioshock, I never bought a 360, or an Ati 8400 or whatever is the good card at the moment. I have a Wii and PS3, everyone has a PC (or mac). Since I played it on another machine that's NOT the 360, it's NOT exclusive. Simple as that, your business and MS profit arguments mean nothing.darkIink

Bioshock is a MS exclusive.

Whether you like it or not that statement is true.

MLB the Show is not a PS3 exclusive but it is a SONY exclusive.

[QUOTE="darkIink"]They are NOT. I played Bioshock, I never bought a 360, or an Ati 8400 or whatever is the good card at the moment. I have a Wii and PS3, everyone has a PC (or mac). Since I played it on another machine that's NOT the 360, it's NOT exclusive. Simple as that, your business and MS profit arguments mean nothing.L1qu1dSword

Bioshock is a MS exclusive.

Whether you like it or not that statement is true.

MLB the Show is not a PS3 exclusive but it is a SONY exclusive.

The same goes for the other guy whose argument Ive also heard and refuted allready earlier in the thread. Seriously guys if you won't read the thread what point is there in posting?

it is kindof a grey area

like are exclusive games for windows exclusive to M$?

akif22

i would think so

No. Like it or not, the consoles DO compete with PCs. I know they certainly do for me. DerekLoffin

See with me PC is non existant. So for me, consoles do not compete with the PC.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="StealthSting"]The argument, in the way that you implied TC, may have a meaning from a business standpoint. And that's really all there is to it. From my standpoint, from a gamer standpoint? It has very little implication.
StealthSting

I definitely explained this allready on the gamer level. Fuzzysquash nailed it even further.

If you're aware of that, then you're definitely right. My question now is, why are we discussing, or better yet, applying this argument to a possible accepted consensus in a place that is composed of the gamer population? Why does this argument influence the gamer population in a positive way at all?

The aim simply is to allow things to be more correct.

The current SW terminology leads to the incorrect scenario of

Gears ---> PC = DMC4 ----->360

These two scenarios have drastically different ramifications for gamers, sales, and developers and it is simply wrong to regard them as being the same. This is for lack of proper categorization terminology that reality is distorted. Cows argue against it because the distorted reality benefits their cause here.

Placing the exclusivity of games in any given platforms from a business standpoint, has no positive outcome to the gamer population at all. Unless, so like this place, used specifically to own another platform in a way that shouldn't even interest us as gamers at all.

Unless you argue that exclusivity drives competition which raises the bar in most( admitedly not all) instances which certainly benefits the gamer. Gotta say though the question of whether this is good for the gamer or not is really venturing into another whole topic.

I like how MS more or less jumped ship on the PC, yet it still thrives long after they stoped supporting it as much with split funds between it and the Xbox.Jynxzor

its a never ending cycle. nintendo forced sony into the console market where they put a hurt on nintendo and ms forcing ms into the console cycle putting the hurt on sony and nintendo comes out of nowhere and hurts everyone lol.

so wait if someone owns a gaming pc and a ps3, he would be missing out on those games even if he has bioshock and gears and has ME on preorder?

i really think pc is a system that should be included.

so wait if someone owns a gaming pc and a ps3, he would be missing out on those games even if he has bioshock and gears and has ME on preorder?

i really think pc is a system that should be included.

Arjdagr8

your the third person to think pc i being excluded. it is not. show me please where i said exclude the pc and ill explain why you misunderstood.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

Another thread asks this:

Has Xbox 360 Exclusive Come To Mean Exclusive Except For The PC?

The very simple reason is this. The entire point of specifying whether something is exclusive is to show that your console of preference has something that the other one does not have. This implies that you are comparing systems that are in direct competition with one another. Xbox360 and PS3 are VERY similar and therefore compete directly for their market share in ways that PC gaming does not.

A little history to flesh this out:

During the days of PS1 MS realized that PC gaming was dying at the hands of SONY and MS was not happy about this because PC gaming was largely their domain. Declining PC gaming means declining profits and diminishing returns from DirectX. MS hatched a plan to combat this and developed the "DirectXbox" later dubbed the XboX.

I don't think it is fair to say that PC gaming is dying. The implication is that it will cease alltogether and that is not likely. However the reality is that since the era of PS1 the market has allowed alternative ways to experience things previously only available to PC gamers. Anyone who has frequented game stores for many years must have noticed the increasingly shrinking PC Game shelves. This is not because PC gaming is on the rise that is for sure.

Within the market cheaper, simpler alternatives were created and hence we have gaming in its current state.

Main point is that this is all a power struggle of MS vs. SONY. If a title is Xbox 360/ Windows only the fact still remains that MS is still raking in profits by retaining the remaining PC fans and with XboX taking back what was lost in the PS1 era.

This is completely logical for MS to do this becuase the purpose of the XBOX was to stop Sony from undermining their PC gaming profits and it would be counterproductive if the xbox did the same thing so providing those same games for Windows makes perfect sense.

DMC4 ----> 360 =/= Gears ----> PC

This argument is mainly just PS3 fans trying to distract people from their lack of AAA exclusives and their loss of games like Assassain's Creed and Devil May Cry 4 to the 360.

When Gears comes to PS3 then we can talk. Until then there is no debate those games are still MS exclusive as long as you can't play them on something with a SONY, Nintendo, or whatever else logo.

Hexagon_777

Could it be, because, I don't know...PC gaming is several generations ahead of console gaming and digital distribution has already manifested itself on the PC due to that reason?

Gears of War is on the Mac too. Just thought I would let you know. ;)

Isn't that the same purpose of your argument? To distract from the 360's lack of AAA exclusives since they are shared by the PS3 and moreso by the PC?

Very interesting point, you make. :o

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

so wait if someone owns a gaming pc and a ps3, he would be missing out on those games even if he has bioshock and gears and has ME on preorder?

i really think pc is a system that should be included.

L1qu1dSword

your the third person to think pc i being excluded. it is not. show me please where i said exclude the pc and ill explain why you misunderstood.

sorry i misunderstood. you mean that these games on the 360 makes a big impact against the ps3 since they are not on the ps3? i would probably agree then but i wouldnt call them exclusive, because non 360 owners may have a gaming pc to play it, but i guess you already knew that. i definitely wouldnt use the word exclusive though.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

Another thread asks this:

Has Xbox 360 Exclusive Come To Mean Exclusive Except For The PC?

The very simple reason is this. The entire point of specifying whether something is exclusive is to show that your console of preference has something that the other one does not have. This implies that you are comparing systems that are in direct competition with one another. Xbox360 and PS3 are VERY similar and therefore compete directly for their market share in ways that PC gaming does not.

A little history to flesh this out:

During the days of PS1 MS realized that PC gaming was dying at the hands of SONY and MS was not happy about this because PC gaming was largely their domain. Declining PC gaming means declining profits and diminishing returns from DirectX. MS hatched a plan to combat this and developed the "DirectXbox" later dubbed the XboX.

I don't think it is fair to say that PC gaming is dying. The implication is that it will cease alltogether and that is not likely. However the reality is that since the era of PS1 the market has allowed alternative ways to experience things previously only available to PC gamers. Anyone who has frequented game stores for many years must have noticed the increasingly shrinking PC Game shelves. This is not because PC gaming is on the rise that is for sure.

Within the market cheaper, simpler alternatives were created and hence we have gaming in its current state.

Main point is that this is all a power struggle of MS vs. SONY. If a title is Xbox 360/ Windows only the fact still remains that MS is still raking in profits by retaining the remaining PC fans and with XboX taking back what was lost in the PS1 era.

This is completely logical for MS to do this becuase the purpose of the XBOX was to stop Sony from undermining their PC gaming profits and it would be counterproductive if the xbox did the same thing so providing those same games for Windows makes perfect sense.

DMC4 ----> 360 =/= Gears ----> PC

This argument is mainly just PS3 fans trying to distract people from their lack of AAA exclusives and their loss of games like Assassain's Creed and Devil May Cry 4 to the 360.

When Gears comes to PS3 then we can talk. Until then there is no debate those games are still MS exclusive as long as you can't play them on something with a SONY, Nintendo, or whatever else logo.

Hexagon_777

Could it be, because, I don't know...PC gaming is several generations ahead of console gaming and digital distribution has already manifested itself on the PC due to that reason?

Gears of War is on the Mac too. Just thought I would let you know. ;)

Isn't that the same purpose of your argument? To distract from the 360's lack of AAA exclusives since they are shared by the PS3 and moreso by the PC?

Very interesting point, you make. :o

Several generations ahead? Yet in fact Crysis which is the flagship PC game in terms of technical prowess is now likley to head for PS3 and 360.

Also for your incorrect assumption about the clearly stated purpose of my argument ill copy past it for the millionth time for you and everyone else that has missed it.

The aim simply is to allow things to be more correct.

The current SW terminology leads to the incorrect scenario of

Gears ---> PC = DMC4 ----->360

These two scenarios have drastically different ramifications for gamers, sales, and developers and it is simply wrong to regard them as being the same. This is for lack of proper categorization terminology that reality is distorted. Cows argue against it because the distorted reality benefits their cause here.

I hope this brightly colored yellow is harder to miss.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

Another thread asks this:

Has Xbox 360 Exclusive Come To Mean Exclusive Except For The PC?

The very simple reason is this. The entire point of specifying whether something is exclusive is to show that your console of preference has something that the other one does not have. This implies that you are comparing systems that are in direct competition with one another. Xbox360 and PS3 are VERY similar and therefore compete directly for their market share in ways that PC gaming does not.

A little history to flesh this out:

During the days of PS1 MS realized that PC gaming was dying at the hands of SONY and MS was not happy about this because PC gaming was largely their domain. Declining PC gaming means declining profits and diminishing returns from DirectX. MS hatched a plan to combat this and developed the "DirectXbox" later dubbed the XboX.

I don't think it is fair to say that PC gaming is dying. The implication is that it will cease alltogether and that is not likely. However the reality is that since the era of PS1 the market has allowed alternative ways to experience things previously only available to PC gamers. Anyone who has frequented game stores for many years must have noticed the increasingly shrinking PC Game shelves. This is not because PC gaming is on the rise that is for sure.

Within the market cheaper, simpler alternatives were created and hence we have gaming in its current state.

Main point is that this is all a power struggle of MS vs. SONY. If a title is Xbox 360/ Windows only the fact still remains that MS is still raking in profits by retaining the remaining PC fans and with XboX taking back what was lost in the PS1 era.

This is completely logical for MS to do this becuase the purpose of the XBOX was to stop Sony from undermining their PC gaming profits and it would be counterproductive if the xbox did the same thing so providing those same games for Windows makes perfect sense.

DMC4 ----> 360 =/= Gears ----> PC

This argument is mainly just PS3 fans trying to distract people from their lack of AAA exclusives and their loss of games like Assassain's Creed and Devil May Cry 4 to the 360.

When Gears comes to PS3 then we can talk. Until then there is no debate those games are still MS exclusive as long as you can't play them on something with a SONY, Nintendo, or whatever else logo.

Hexagon_777

Could it be, because, I don't know...PC gaming is several generations ahead of console gaming and digital distribution has already manifested itself on the PC due to that reason?

Gears of War is on the Mac too. Just thought I would let you know. ;)

Isn't that the same purpose of your argument? To distract from the 360's lack of AAA exclusives since they are shared by the PS3 and moreso by the PC?

Very interesting point, you make. :o

Several generations ahead? Yet in fact Crysis which is the flagship PC game in terms of technical prowess is now likley to head for PS3 and 360.

Also for your incorrect assumption about the clearly stated purpose of my argument ill copy past it for the millionth time for you and everyone else that has missed it.

The aim simply is to allow things to be more correct.

The current SW terminology leads to the incorrect scenario of

Gears ---> PC = DMC4 ----->360

These two scenarios have drastically different ramifications for gamers, sales, and developers and it is simply wrong to regard them as being the same. This is for lack of proper categorization terminology that reality is distorted. Cows argue against it because the distorted reality benefits their cause here.

I hope this brightly colored yellow is harder to miss.

EDIT: also on the note of Gears going to MAC.

A.) not yet

B.) why is there no name for MAC users? because they are so negligably small they are lumped into PC gamers HERMITS.

[QUOTE="darkIink"]They are NOT. I played Bioshock, I never bought a 360, or an Ati 8400 or whatever is the good card at the moment. I have a Wii and PS3, everyone has a PC (or mac). Since I played it on another machine that's NOT the 360, it's NOT exclusive. Simple as that, your business and MS profit arguments mean nothing.L1qu1dSword

Bioshock is a MS exclusive.

Whether you like it or not that statement is true.

MLB the Show is not a PS3 exclusive but it is a SONY exclusive.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

so wait if someone owns a gaming pc and a ps3, he would be missing out on those games even if he has bioshock and gears and has ME on preorder?

i really think pc is a system that should be included.

Arjdagr8

your the third person to think pc i being excluded. it is not. show me please where i said exclude the pc and ill explain why you misunderstood.

sorry i misunderstood. you mean that these games on the 360 makes a big impact against the ps3 since they are not on the ps3? i would probably agree then but i wouldnt call them exclusive, because non 360 owners may have a gaming pc to play it, but i guess you already knew that. i definitely wouldnt use the word exclusive though.

exclusive as a stand alone word is useless here. even by current standards. you need to specify 360 or PS3 and in the case of Mass Effect, Bioshock Etc they are MS Exclusive.

Another thread asks this:

Has Xbox 360 Exclusive Come To Mean Exclusive Except For The PC?

The very simple reason is this. The entire point of specifying whether something is exclusive is to show that your console of preference has something that the other one does not have. This implies that you are comparing systems that are in direct competition with one another. Xbox360 and PS3 are VERY similar and therefore compete directly for their market share in ways that PC gaming does not.

A little history to flesh this out:

During the days of PS1 MS realized that PC gaming was dying at the hands of SONY and MS was not happy about this because PC gaming was largely their domain. Declining PC gaming means declining profits and diminishing returns from DirectX. MS hatched a plan to combat this and developed the "DirectXbox" later dubbed the XboX.

I don't think it is fair to say that PC gaming is dying. The implication is that it will cease alltogether and that is not likely. However the reality is that since the era of PS1 the market has allowed alternative ways to experience things previously only available to PC gamers. Anyone who has frequented game stores for many years must have noticed the increasingly shrinking PC Game shelves. This is not because PC gaming is on the rise that is for sure.

Within the market cheaper, simpler alternatives were created and hence we have gaming in its current state.

Main point is that this is all a power struggle of MS vs. SONY. If a title is Xbox 360/ Windows only the fact still remains that MS is still raking in profits by retaining the remaining PC fans and with XboX taking back what was lost in the PS1 era.

This is completely logical for MS to do this becuase the purpose of the XBOX was to stop Sony from undermining their PC gaming profits and it would be counterproductive if the xbox did the same thing so providing those same games for Windows makes perfect sense.

DMC4 ----> 360 =/= Gears ----> PC

This argument is mainly just PS3 fans trying to distract people from their lack of AAA exclusives and their loss of games like Assassain's Creed and Devil May Cry 4 to the 360.

When Gears comes to PS3 then we can talk. Until then there is no debate those games are still MS exclusive as long as you can't play them on something with a SONY, Nintendo, or whatever else logo.

L1qu1dSword

whatever fanboy...what a desperate failed attempt at trying to justify something which just isnt. exclusivity look it up in the dictionary maybe then you will realise why you have failed.

also pc gamers and xbox gamers are not the same people, sure there are people who own all systems but end of the day MS does not receive any money for a third party developed game for the pc where as if they develop for xbox360 then yes they do.

therefore it is classified as two different gaming platforms whether it is owned by microsoft or not

[>Several generations ahead? Yet in fact Crysis which is the flagship PC game in terms of technical prowess is now likley to head for PS3 and 360.L1qu1dSword

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="darkIink"]They are NOT. I played Bioshock, I never bought a 360, or an Ati 8400 or whatever is the good card at the moment. I have a Wii and PS3, everyone has a PC (or mac). Since I played it on another machine that's NOT the 360, it's NOT exclusive. Simple as that, your business and MS profit arguments mean nothing.Vandalvideo

Bioshock is a MS exclusive.

Whether you like it or not that statement is true.

MLB the Show is not a PS3 exclusive but it is a SONY exclusive.

Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

so wait if someone owns a gaming pc and a ps3, he would be missing out on those games even if he has bioshock and gears and has ME on preorder?

i really think pc is a system that should be included.

L1qu1dSword

your the third person to think pc i being excluded. it is not. show me please where i said exclude the pc and ill explain why you misunderstood.

sorry i misunderstood. you mean that these games on the 360 makes a big impact against the ps3 since they are not on the ps3? i would probably agree then but i wouldnt call them exclusive, because non 360 owners may have a gaming pc to play it, but i guess you already knew that. i definitely wouldnt use the word exclusive though.

exclusive as a stand alone word is useless here. even by current standards. you need to specify 360 or PS3 and in the case of Mass Effect, Bioshock Etc they are MS Exclusive.

hmm, i get what your trying to say but i dont like that term. its kinda like how re4 is on gamecube and ps2 but not on xbox, may aswell call it a non-xbox exclusive or whatver.

Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?L1qu1dSword

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][>Several generations ahead? Yet in fact Crysis which is the flagship PC game in terms of technical prowess is now likley to head for PS3 and 360.Vandalvideo

Actually Crytek themselves said that with this engine Crysis would look like high settings PC or close for PS3 and 360. Any way you look at it this is not "several generations ahead." If anything it would be slightly one generation or half of one.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][>Several generations ahead? Yet in fact Crysis which is the flagship PC game in terms of technical prowess is now likley to head for PS3 and 360.L1qu1dSword

Actually Crytek themselves said that with this engine Crysis would look like high settings PC or close for PS3 and 360. Any way you look at it this is not "several generations ahead." If anything it would be slightly one generation or half of one.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?Vandalvideo

Uh no. They own the OS WINDOWS.

Anticipated Response: But my PC is made up of tons of components not made by Microsoft

So is my 360 :)

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?Vandalvideo

Uh no. They own the OS WINDOWS.

Anticipated Response: But my PC is made up of tons of components not made by Microsoft

So is my 360 :) Point is you don't need your hypothetical SONY VAIO to play Bioshock PC but you DO need Windows ;)

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?Vandalvideo

you choose to play on a sony laptop

if you wanna pc game you pretty much cant choose what OS to use

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Like it or not, the consoles DO compete with PCs. I know they certainly do for me. L1qu1dSword

If Windows and Xbox are owned by MS how exactly is this competion?

Besides I never said that anyways. I said they do not compete in the same manner as PS3 and 360 do.

are you that fing stupid?

M$ owns widnows NOT PC GAMING

they do not make money off of the games

they make money off of every f'n game you buy for the x360

they dont make jack off of PC games

M$ dosent controle PC gamign in any way

they cant controle the content

they dont do microtransactions

they are compleatly seperate

PC gaming =/= M$

if a game is x360/PC IT IS NOT EXCLUSIVE

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?ParadiddleFill

you choose to play on a sony laptop

if you wanna pc game you pretty much cant choose what OS to use

Point is you don't need your hypothetical SONY VAIO to play Bioshock PC but you DO need Windows ;)L1qu1dSword

I think everything that goes pc/p3 should be ps3 exclusive because sony is an hardware maker!

see that make 0 sense

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?Vandalvideo

you choose to play on a sony laptop

if you wanna pc game you pretty much cant choose what OS to use

vandal, get on steam, also, l1qu1d kinda makes me want to cry

ignorance must indeed be bliss :'(

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Like it or not, the consoles DO compete with PCs. I know they certainly do for me. shadow_hosi

If Windows and Xbox are owned by MS how exactly is this competion?

Besides I never said that anyways. I said they do not compete in the same manner as PS3 and 360 do.

are you that fing stupid?

M$ owns widnows NOT PC GAMING

they do not make money off of the games

they make money off of every f'n game you buy for the x360

they dont make jack off of PC games

M$ dosent controle PC gamign in any way

they cant controle the content

they dont do microtransactions

they are compleatly seperate

PC gaming =/= M$

if a game is x360/PC IT IS NOT EXCLUSIVE

ye thats what i said in my post but no one took notice of it! the fact is pc and xbox are two seperate gaming platforms because MS does not have any control over gaming on pc they dont make money off third party developed games where as on xbox360 they do. so they are in fact in competition

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"] Point is you don't need your hypothetical SONY VAIO to play Bioshock PC but you DO need Windows ;)Vandalvideo

i actually tried to use that before :P but i really wasnt very interested in it....looking back, i would probably like linux...

Unless you argue that exclusivity drives competition which raises the bar in most( admitedly not all) instances which certainly benefits the gamer.

L1qu1dSword

Yes in a way that is correct. The view that you're giving us, is just as incorrect as well, depending on a particular point of view and that is the gamers point of view. I'm trying to argue about your point of view, and why we are discussing this issue from a business standpoint. That is what I'm arguing.

From a business standpoint you could argue that the 360 and PC share in this context, but from a gamer standpoint you can not. Both retain very different gaming populations. This thread is dismissing the available/different content each platform has from each other and its respective groups of gamers that are only divided do to this exact reason.

If this was to be seen in the gamers standpoint, would we arrive at the conclusion that a game like Crysis is not exclusive at all to the PC? For a gamer standpoint no we would and could not, from a microsoft standpoint? Sure. Do you consider the DS and Wii to be the exact same platform? I most certainly do not, even tho Nintendo makes a profit on both of them.

All of this goes into my first post. Is Bioshock, Gears and Mass Effect exclusive? Yes they are, but only if viewed from a business standpoint. From a platform standpoint and gamer standpoint they are not, since they're all available in different gaming platforms.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Like it or not, the consoles DO compete with PCs. I know they certainly do for me. shadow_hosi

If Windows and Xbox are owned by MS how exactly is this competion?

Besides I never said that anyways. I said they do not compete in the same manner as PS3 and 360 do.

are you that fing stupid? Flame off man

M$ owns widnows NOT PC GAMING Nobody owns PC gaming. I certainly never said that. Being sole proprieter of the OS that 95 percent of people use does not hurt though does it?

they do not make money off of the games Specifically we are talking about MS produced 360 ports and yes they do

they make money off of every f'n game you buy for the x360 OK....

they dont make jack off of PC games See above...

M$ dosent controle PC gamign in any way See above...

they cant controle the content

they dont do microtransactions WTF are you even ranting about chill!

they are compleatly seperate Yeah the whole OS thing......no.

PC gaming =/= M$ I never even said that so why dispute

if a game is x360/PC IT IS NOT 360 EXCLUSIVE however it is MS exclusive ;)

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]Is there a 2K Boston Gaming system that I don't know about?Vandalvideo

you choose to play on a sony laptop

if you wanna pc game you pretty much cant choose what OS to use

yes ive heard of whine i use linux as my dual OS

like i said before most people have no clue when it comes to CLI commands on linux, you have to learn it. most people like the ease of windows with simple click and install

plus whine has alot of bugs when it comes to some of the coding. Ive used linux for about two years with whine and I can tell you windows os is much better

Specifically we are talking about MS produced 360 ports and yes they do

L1qu1dSword

only off of ones they publish. and even then, that's like saying FF7 is a Sony Exclusive since they make money off of it no matter the platform.

yes ive heard of whine i use linux as my dual OS

like i said before most people have no clue when it comes to CLI commands on linux, you have to learn it. most people like the ease of windows with simple click and install

plus whine has alot of bugs when it comes to some of the coding. Ive used linux for about two years with whine and I can tell you windows os is much better

ParadiddleFill

....ok, but that doesn't really help your argument. The fact is, you can choose what OS to use.

yes ive heard of whine i use linux as my dual OS like i said before most people have no clue when it comes to CLI commands on linux, you have to learn it. most people like the ease of windows with simple click and install plus whine has alot of bugs when it comes to some of the coding. Ive used linux for about two years with whine and I can tell you windows os is much betterParadiddleFill

[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]yes ive heard of whine i use linux as my dual OS like i said before most people have no clue when it comes to CLI commands on linux, you have to learn it. most people like the ease of windows with simple click and install plus whine has alot of bugs when it comes to some of the coding. Ive used linux for about two years with whine and I can tell you windows os is much betterVandalvideo

there are still alot of software that do not work with whine like gears of war or bioshock why would you use linux if you want to play the latest pc games?

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[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]No. Like it or not, the consoles DO compete with PCs. I know they certainly do for me. L1qu1dSword

If Windows and Xbox are owned by MS how exactly is this competion?

Besides I never said that anyways. I said they do not compete in the same manner as PS3 and 360 do.

are you that fing stupid? Flame off man

M$ owns widnows NOT PC GAMING Nobody owns PC gaming. I certainly never said that. Being sole proprieter of the OS that 95 percent of people use does not hurt though does it? that dosent mean theymake any money per game

they do not make money off of the games Specifically we are talking about MS produced 360 ports and yes they do only M$ game studio ones, they wont make anything off of say, assasins creed for the PC

they make money off of every f'n game you buy for the x360 OK....

they dont make jack off of PC games See above...See above...

M$ dosent controle PC gamign in any way See above... See above...

they cant controle the content

they dont do microtransactions WTF are you even ranting about chill! know your stuff f00

they are compleatly seperate Yeah the whole OS thing......no. OS =/= games

PC gaming =/= M$ I never even said that so why dispute your saying that PC games count as M$ exclusives if they are on the x360 so yes, infact, you are

if a game is x360/PC IT IS NOTM$ 360 EXCLUSIVE however it is MS exclusive ;)

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