Why do people feel that Skyward Sword looks disappointing?

I believe something more along the lines of this is what people are referring to.

OhSnapitz

Which just doesn't match the zelda look or feel. TP is the sole game in the history of zelda to look like that.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

I believe something more along the lines of this is what people are referring to.

goblaa

Which just doesn't match the zelda look or feel. TP is the sole game in the history of zelda to look like that.

i would love to play that but would be annoyed if that was how zelda was going to be throughout the whole game

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

OwnallConsoles

While you still don't know what waggle means, I agree. I was expecting the game to show some new ideas, not just motion controls.

But, nintendo has pretty much shown nothing in skyward sword other than the contros and art direction. So to say there will be nothing new is massivly premature.

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"][QUOTE="JLF1"]

The reason why I'm not hyped for the game yet it because the video shown felt more like a tech demo than the real game. It basically showed of the graphics, which I liked and the motion-controls, which felt clunky and uneven.

JLF1

I also read several previews of the game and they didn't really praise the controls.

They don't seem broken or anything but they seem far from perfect.

Really? Because from what I've read, the controls surpass even Red Steel 2's.

[QUOTE="JLF1"]

[QUOTE="oldkingallant"] Clunky and uneven? Did you happen to only watch Miyamoto's horribly interrupted demo, or the actual floor demo?Brawl578

I also read several previews of the game and they didn't really praise the controls.

They don't seem broken or anything but they seem far from perfect.

Really? Because from what I've read, the controls surpass even Red Steel 2's.

well when the inferior console starts to kill the superior consoles in the industry people start to make up information thats not true8)

jkjk

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

Ramen1020

How many changes were you expecting from a demo? It's a Zelda game so it has to stay true to the series. 1:1 motion controls are a huge difference in game play but apparently to you it seems like it's just tacked on.

Really we haven't played the game so there's no way we can judge. It could feel a lot like every other Zelda, but there's no way to tell.

You really just seem like you were expecting this Zelda to be an RPG or something.

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

OwnallConsoles

How many changes were you expecting from a demo? It's a Zelda game so it has to stay true to the series. 1:1 motion controls are a huge difference in game play but apparently to you it seems like it's just tacked on.

Really we haven't played the game so there's no way we can judge. It could feel a lot like every other Zelda, but there's no way to tell.

You really just seem like you were expecting this Zelda to be an RPG or something.

Can totally agree. The zelda formula is very very stale right now. That doesn't mean SS will use the same formula though, just that nintendo hasn't shown anything from the game.

I fear it will feel like every other zelda game, but there's nothing saying it will right now.

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"][QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

How many changes were you expecting from a demo? It's a Zelda game so it has to stay true to the series. 1:1 motion controls are a huge difference in game play but apparently to you it seems like it's just tacked on.

Really we haven't played the game so there's no way we can judge. It could feel a lot like every other Zelda, but there's no way to tell.

You really just seem like you were expecting this Zelda to be an RPG or something.

Can totally agree. The zelda formula is very very stale right now. That doesn't mean SS will use the same formula though, just that nintendo hasn't shown anything from the game.

I fear it will feel like every other zelda game, but there's nothing saying it will right now.

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

OwnallConsoles

How many changes were you expecting from a demo? It's a Zelda game so it has to stay true to the series. 1:1 motion controls are a huge difference in game play but apparently to you it seems like it's just tacked on.

Really we haven't played the game so there's no way we can judge. It could feel a lot like every other Zelda, but there's no way to tell.

You really just seem like you were expecting this Zelda to be an RPG or something.

all sequels you do the same thing.

pokemon,ratchet and clank, halo. they all have a fomula i dont get what are people complaining about honestly if you dont like the game cool but many people do and theres no point of crying about how a demo showing off the controls looked like it was the full retail game.

It's not the graphics necessarily. More so for the fact that it almost feels like a Wii-mote rehash. I thought it couldn't get any worsethan Twilight Princess but from the "looks", it did....

In my opinion.

(Sad too when most will probably play the Ocarina of Time remake over it.)

It's not the graphics necessarily. More so for the fact that it almost feels like a Wii-mote rehash. I thought it couldn't get any worsethan Twilight Princess but from the "looks", it did....

In my opinion.

(Sad too when most will probably play the Ocarina of Time remake over it.)

Kori-san

your post makes absolutely no sense to even be an opinion. it feels like a wii-mote rehash?what is that?

TP was not a bad game if its overall is 95 and sold millions only this nerdtastic forum dont really like it....

It's not the graphics necessarily. More so for the fact that it almost feels like a Wii-mote rehash. I thought it couldn't get any worsethan Twilight Princess but from the "looks", it did....

In my opinion.

(Sad too when most will probably play the Ocarina of Time remake over it.)

Kori-san

Well, as a Zelda fan, I would play both SS and the OoT remake. I would think any other huge Zelda fan would do the same, but whatever.

And a wii-mote rehash? From the looks of things the controls are probably going to be even better than Twilight Princess's since SS revolves around the Wiimotion +, that and SS was originally meant for the Wii, while TP was originally going to be GC only, so Nintendo will probably put more focus on SS's motion control than they did TP. Though honestly I never had issue with TP's motion controls anyways...

I actually like the new look that The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword sports, love the combination of Twilight Princess art stlye along with Windwaker cel shading approach or at least that is what I think Nintendo was going for with this specific title.

I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. tomarlyn

I think it was just to show off controls really. An interview said that the game would be done had they stuff to TP visual style.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. tomarlyn

[QUOTE="Ramen1020"]

[QUOTE="OwnallConsoles"]

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

OwnallConsoles

How many changes were you expecting from a demo? It's a Zelda game so it has to stay true to the series. 1:1 motion controls are a huge difference in game play but apparently to you it seems like it's just tacked on.

Really we haven't played the game so there's no way we can judge. It could feel a lot like every other Zelda, but there's no way to tell.

You really just seem like you were expecting this Zelda to be an RPG or something.

If you would watch interviews you would know that thats on of the things that they were focusing on changing for this game...

Here is the bottom line:

Me and others were expecting to be blown away by new aspects of gameplay and originality. Instead we got the same thing with motion controls tagged on. It could turn to be a 10 but judging by the e3 demo it does not look any different.

OwnallConsoles

The "motion controls" is what is innovative; The puzzles will be made with those in mind unlike TP. We've already seen that the swordplay is much more strategic andthe combat has the potential to be phenomenal, thanks to WM+.

Another change is going to be the streamlined progression a la SMG2, we have yet to see how it's going to be applied to Zelda, I'm thinking 4-5 bigger areas like Prime 3 rather than 1 whole connected world.

The menus are much better, I think the lack of several items like in TP implies that the items are going to be all-in-one, for example there is only going to be say a bow instead of bow + slingshoot, and another thing I'm thinking about are dungeon specific items, like the light ball in TP's twilight temple, these things keep it streamlined and clean.

These subtle changes can go a long way. The thing is I think you have the wrong mindset when it comes to Zelda games. Zelda is a glorified puzzle game. Like 75% of what makes the games good are the temples, the design and atmosphere given by the artstyle + soundtrack. Still, it's mostly the brilliant design. TP's temples are just amazing from start to finnish. Easily one of the best titles ever created.

I'm REALLY curious, what exactly would you want Zelda to become? What kind of changes would you like to see?

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. tomarlyn

Yeah, that's just absurd. Wii 2 launch game? Not going to happen.

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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]yea dont get the aging well part remember your opiniondoes not =/= fact.

besides zelda TP was rated higher then oblivion on metacritic and gamerankings

Mario1331

I agree with Timstuff 110%. I dont give a **** what gamerankings or someother website gave TP or Oblivion. I had much more fun playing oblivion then I did with Twilight Princess. I remember playing Ocarina of Time for the first time and it seemed so open and huge but now the whole zelda series feels very linear when compared to games like the elder scrolls or Gta. Its getting harder for me to keep liking zelda when the thing I liked most about it as a kid was its openness and now other games are much better in that aspect.

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

I agree with Timstuff 110%. I dont give a **** what gamerankings or someother website gave TP or Oblivion. I had much more fun playing oblivion then I did with Twilight Princess. I remember playing Ocarina of Time for the first time and it seemed so open and huge but now the whole zelda series feels very linear when compared to games like the elder scrolls or Gta. Its getting harder for me to keep liking zelda when the thing I liked most about it as a kid was its openness and now other games are much better in that aspect.

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

I agree with Timstuff 110%. I dont give a **** what gamerankings or someother website gave TP or Oblivion. I had much more fun playing oblivion then I did with Twilight Princess. I remember playing Ocarina of Time for the first time and it seemed so open and huge but now the whole zelda series feels very linear when compared to games like the elder scrolls or Gta. Its getting harder for me to keep liking zelda when the thing I liked most about it as a kid was its openness and now other games are much better in that aspect.

DillonShwing

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

lol once again good opinion many others dont feel this way its boring to you and does not feel linear. Im starting to think many of yall didnt even play zelda games from the start.

The forest was a bit plain kinda wish they showed a dungeon. The graphics are fine hopefully they change up the formual and don't take too much time on the motion controls. I'm a bit skepical about the game I'm more interested in the OOT remake.

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

Mario1331

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

lol once again good opinion many others dont feel this way its boring to you and does not feel linear. Im starting to think many of yall didnt even play zelda games from the start.

Play Oblivion or Morrowind and then go back and play Zelda. It feels extremely linear. I'm not saying I don't like Zelda, Ocarina of Time and Majora's mask are some of my favorite games, but they are much more linear games than the elder scrolls

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

I agree with Timstuff 110%. I dont give a **** what gamerankings or someother website gave TP or Oblivion. I had much more fun playing oblivion then I did with Twilight Princess. I remember playing Ocarina of Time for the first time and it seemed so open and huge but now the whole zelda series feels very linear when compared to games like the elder scrolls or Gta. Its getting harder for me to keep liking zelda when the thing I liked most about it as a kid was its openness and now other games are much better in that aspect.

DillonShwing

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

DillonShwing

lol once again good opinion many others dont feel this way its boring to you and does not feel linear. Im starting to think many of yall didnt even play zelda games from the start.

Play Oblivion or Morrowind and then go back and play Zelda. It feels extremely linear. I'm not saying I don't like Zelda, Ocarina of Time and Majora's mask are some of my favorite games, but they are much more linear games than the elder scrolls

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

princeofshapeir

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

By far the biggest complaint about TP was that the formula has gotten stale. No, I don't want oblivion in a green tunic. But Zelda needs some change...and motion controls are not enough alone. This is comming from a hardcore sheep and hardcore zelda fan. Zelda is way to predictable. Way too much stuff is being recycled in the series.

I believe something more along the lines of this is what people are referring to.

OhSnapitz

Freaking ZOMG... Now that is how I want a Zelda game to look! :o

[QUOTE="DillonShwing"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

nice opinion goes back to the beginning of my last post your opinion =/= fact. i had more fun with pokemon then Lost odyessy it really doesnt matter if you agree with him its whats true and whats not and an opinion is not a fact...

GTA is the same every time with a little change from chinatown wars.seriously what are you talking about?

princeofshapeir

Fail. If you read what I posted you would know exactly what I'm talking about. Zelda feels very small and linear now compared to other open world games and on top of that, the series has not advanced a bit. Every Zelda game since Ocarina of Time (besides Majoras mask) has had the same exact formula and it is getting extremely boring.

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. tomarlyn

No, in fact Nintendo said they only need to finish up the graphics and make a few more dungeons. They also said the game will release early 2011. The game is mostly done, and expect the graphics to improve quite a bit before release I suppose.

Here's another lovely HD Zelda render.

Here's another lovely HD Zelda render.

Timstuff

Uhg. The problem (other tha being jaggy) is that it does NOT look like zelda. TP does not look like zelda. That was one of its problems.

How did we get from this:

to this?

.

Zelda is not lord of the rings.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]I just want to point out that it has been confirmed that the stage shown at e3, was simply created to show off some new gameplay mechanics and will not be part of the final release. AmayaPapaya

No, in fact Nintendo said they only need to finish up the graphics and make a few more dungeons. They also said the game will release early 2010. The game is mostly done, and expect the graphics to improve quite a bit before release I suppose.

[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Development must be way behind then, normally don't they use a set piece from the final version or training environment to show off the game? I'm still expecting it to be a Wii 2 launch game at this point.oldkingallant

No, in fact Nintendo said they only need to finish up the graphics and make a few more dungeons. They also said the game will release early 2010. The game is mostly done, and expect the graphics to improve quite a bit before release I suppose.

Ah yes, let me edit that :P

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Here's another lovely HD Zelda render.

goblaa

Uhg. The problem (other tha being jaggy) is that it does NOT look like zelda. TP does not look like zelda. That was one of its problems.

How did we get from this:

to this?

.

Zelda is not lord of the rings.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Here's another lovely HD Zelda render.

Timstuff

Uhg. The problem (other tha being jaggy) is that it does NOT look like zelda. TP does not look like zelda. That was one of its problems.

How did we get from this:

to this?

.

Zelda is not lord of the rings.

Well, I'm all for changing up the formula of the gameplay, but changing zelda's identity I'm not. It would be like making mario dark, or making metroid like ben ten...

I am a grownup now, so I think I can handle a Zelda game made for grownups.

I am a grownup now, so I think I can handle a Zelda game made for grownups.

Timstuff

Which tells me you're not grown up...

Twilight Princess felt and looked like a Zelda game to me. :?

It looked a bit darker than usual, yes, but I still felt like it had the Zelda styIe.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I am a grownup now, so I think I can handle a Zelda game made for grownups.

goblaa

Which tells me you're not grown up...

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I am a grownup now, so I think I can handle a Zelda game made for grownups.

Timstuff

Which tells me you're not grown up...

...And what does that have to do with Zelda? :/

Just saying... Liking mature entertainment does not make one immature, despite the popular claims by Nintendo fans.Timstuff

Oh, well I haven't seen the movie yet so I can't respond to it's maturity. Can't wait to see it though.

Twilight Princess felt and looked like a Zelda game to me. :?

It looked a bit darker than usual, yes, but I still felt like it had the Zelda styIe.

DJ-Lafleur

Taking the purist mindset to its logical conclusion, the only Zelda game that looks like a Zelda game is the NES one.

I mean really, he's saying that this:

Resembles this more than Twilight Princess does:

Twilight Princess is no more of a departure from the NES look that Skyward Swords, and at least in the Gamecube version Link was holding his sword in the correct ruddy hand. And really, since when did NES graphics become the golden standard to which modern games were compared? Maybe Nintendo should be more focused on moving the series FORWARD and keeping up with the CURRENT preferences of the people who grew up playing Zelda, instead of trying to keep things the way they were on NES? I love Legend of Zelda for NES, but if I want to play it I'll either play the original or 3D Dot Game Heroes. I do not expect a modern Zelda game to be like the NES game, because the NES game is as old as I am. Like most adults, tastes have evolved since childhood, I can't help but expect my games to grow with me. Most Zelda fans are adults now (especially the ones who are old enough to have lost interest in Nintendo itself after liking it their whole life), and I don't think that it's unfair for us to expect that the Zelda franchise will grow up with us.

Just because Zelda looked a particular way 24 years ago doesn't mean that in modern times it should look like a world made out of candy.

The character models look good, maby not as great as Wind Waker, but still great.

The enviroments are a bit meh, hope they tweak them.

The character models look good, maby not as great as Wind Waker, but still great.

The enviroments are a bit meh, hope they tweak them.

lucky_star

From what people have been saying is, the environments shown at E3 were quickly made for the demo. Which is believable. If the character models are any way of judging the real environments of the game, it will look amazing:D

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

The character models look good, maby not as great as Wind Waker, but still great.

The enviroments are a bit meh, hope they tweak them.

From what people have been saying is, the environments shown at E3 were quickly made for the demo. Which is believable. If the character models are any way of judging the real environments of the game, it will look amazing:D