Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

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#51 Murderstyle75
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why do cows think Sony is dumb enough not to charge them for online play next gen?percech
And it takes a new generation to charge, why? There are so many ways to make money off a console and a subscription fee doesn't have to be one of them. Especially since Sony charges the developers bandwidth fees and requires online passes for first party games. Microsoft doesnt do either. They just charge their loyal customers instead. And playstation plus is genius in its own right. They get you to pay a subscription to play games you never would have bought in the first place, buy DLC for said games and buy games/DLC that don't even sell but people buy because they are on sale.
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#52 blackace
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Is cross game chat and dashboard ads really worth over $400 in value for a gen to people?

There are no other exclusive features to the service. People pay to unlock multiplayer in games they already paid for and access a netflix app that they are already paying netflix for.

NathanDrakeSwag

Why do people pay their ISP for broadband access? The answers are the same. Online gaming is not FREE. Don't know why people keep thinking it is.

Is paying $500 - $600 a year worth it for gamers to play online.

Why do gamers pay $600 for a game console with no games?

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#53 Mrmedia01
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The thing is people choose to pay for Xbox Live because MS has better online games. Halo and Gears Of War Series are great online, all there friends are on playing Call Of Duty all over 360.

 

So they think since Halo is so good online and all there friends are paying for Xbox Live they have to do the same to play there beloved Halo Online.

 

MS really know how to stick it to there customers. I can tell you one thing I am not paying $60 a year next gen to play Halo 5 online. No Way.

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#54 Murderstyle75
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Halo is not even that good anymore and the only thing COD really has going for it on the 360 is month early DLC access. These games also tend to sell better because there's nothing else to really buy. When you have no games, the few popular ones sell that much better. What else are they going to buy? Certainly not a new IP we have not seen one of those in three years and that ones not even 100% exclusive.
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#55 jimmypsn
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Xbox Live download speeds are faster.

Patches are delivered much faster.

Cross game chat. Party chat.

Xbox Live Indie Games. Over 3000

Xbox Live Arcade.

Much more content than PSN.

Better GUI interface.

Xbox Storefront doesn't lag like PSN.

Everyone has mics to communicate with.

More services and apps available for Xbox

etc etc etc Could go on and on.

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#57 blackace
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The thing is people choose to pay for Xbox Live because MS has better online games. Halo and Gears Of War Series are great online, all there friends are on playing Call Of Duty all over 360.

 

So they think since Halo is so good online and all there friends are paying for Xbox Live they have to do the same to play there beloved Halo Online.

 

MS really know how to stick it to there customers. I can tell you one thing I am not paying $60 a year next gen to play Halo 5 online. No Way.

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No, but you'll be paying $500 - $600 a year to playing anything online. lol!! As it'll cost you that much to have a fast broadband connection. Unless you go the awful DSL route. Blah!!
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#58 HalcyonScarlet
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What a fantastic Question. I'm shocked no one has ever made a thread on it this whole gen.

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#59 jimmypsn
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What a fantastic Question. I'm shocked no one has ever made a thread on it this whole gen.

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hehe. It does get kinda tiring sometimes. I never seen such a group of people care so much how other people.spend their money. I'm gonna yell at my neighbor for buying a new BMW M3. He should've bought a Prius. Better Gas mileage. lol
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#60 k2theswiss
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MS was the first in the console world to push online gaming and get it right. They was also first to start doing apps and better features but, sony has push really far and matching MS.

 

IF sony wasn't stupid about how they divided the ram in ps3. ps3 would had party chat by now

 

MS fails to do anything with that xbox gold money for it's customers now. 

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#61 tormentos
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People are suckers..:D

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#62 Ghost120x
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I don't know. I used play my Xbox online all the time because the games were fun and everyone had mics. Sure you had the occasional douche bag, but the experience was nice and clean compared to what Sony was offering at the time. But when the games left I saw no reason to shell out $60 a year for multiplats that I could play for free on another console. And when I used my silver account, I realized you can't do shit with a silver account (not even look at Netflix) and bought a ps3.
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#63 RR360DD
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MS was the first in the console world to push online gaming and get it right. They was also first to start doing apps and better features but, sony has push really far and matching MS.

 

IF sony wasn't stupid about how they divided the ram in ps3. ps3 would had party chat by now

 

MS fails to do anything with that xbox gold money for it's customers now. 

k2theswiss

And this is why competition is good. XBL set the standard for online play, and was great from the beginning. Sony has had to play catchup for most of the gen, and they got close.

With the acquisition of Gakai and Sony building the new PS4 OS/PSN around it, they will finally match XBL. Question is, what will MS add to make the fees worth it. Probably their own version of PSN+ and who knows what else.

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#64 Murderstyle75
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Xbox Live download speeds are faster.

Patches are delivered much faster.

Cross game chat. Party chat.

Xbox Live Indie Games. Over 3000

Xbox Live Arcade.

Much more content than PSN.

Better GUI interface.

Xbox Storefront doesn't lag like PSN.

Everyone has mics to communicate with.

More services and apps available for Xbox

etc etc etc Could go on and on.

jimmypsn
Yet its funny how all those apps are far better on a free device like Roku not to mention Betflix on PSN has always been superior. As for mics? Not every 360 sku comes with a mic and the mic that comes with the ones that do is complete garbage and is lucky to last a month. Now if you are having a problem with Lag and slow downloads, you need to either learn to configure your network settings or get off the stupid Wifi. And while Xbox might be getting all these irrelevant indie and Arcade games, they are still no substitute for real titles. Xbox has not seen a real new core IP in three years. Jesus Christ. People like you give console gamers as a whole a really bad name. You fanboys need to drop off the face of the earth.
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#65 rjdofu
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'cause XBL >>> TC
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#66 TheEroica  Moderator
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Cross game chat is the best feature on consoles... er, I mean the only console that can handle it.  Other than that, I think people pay just to piss off the TC...

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#67 TheEroica  Moderator
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'cause XBL >>> TCrjdofu
soooo true.
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#68 tormentos
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And this is why competition is good. XBL set the standard for online play, and was great from the beginning. Sony has had to play catchup for most of the gen, and they got close.

With the acquisition of Gakai and Sony building the new PS4 OS/PSN around it, they will finally match XBL. Question is, what will MS add to make the fees worth it. Probably their own version of PSN+ and who knows what else.

RR360DD

 

Oh please it was voice chat anc friend list on the original xbox and you still had to pump $50 a year,MS charge because the xbox was a money pit and they knew it since before launch,and continues to charge on 360 because people are suckers.

Evene the PS Vita does party chat free,there is no reason why MS should charge a cent for live,more when it has been free every where but on xbox consoles.

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#69 bbkkristian
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*surprised that this thread is not about Nintendo* :shock:
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#70 TheFadeForever
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To play Halo and Gears of War lol I haven't played my Xbox360 in ages

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#71 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

 

 

And this is why competition is good. XBL set the standard for online play, and was great from the beginning. Sony has had to play catchup for most of the gen, and they got close.

With the acquisition of Gakai and Sony building the new PS4 OS/PSN around it, they will finally match XBL. Question is, what will MS add to make the fees worth it. Probably their own version of PSN+ and who knows what else.

tormentos

 

Oh please it was voice chat anc friend list on the original xbox and you still had to pump $50 a year,MS charge because the xbox was a money pit and they knew it since before launch,and continues to charge on 360 because people are suckers.

Evene the PS Vita does party chat free,there is no reason why MS should charge a cent for live,more when it has been free every where but on xbox consoles.

XBL has set the standard for online play on consoles. Deal with it.
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Because they have to if they want to play online on the 360.

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#73 YoshiYogurt
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We are forced to pay. Can't believe I just blew $40 on one year of live...just to play ONE GAME!! ONE GAME xbox is so BS....
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

 

 

And this is why competition is good. XBL set the standard for online play, and was great from the beginning. Sony has had to play catchup for most of the gen, and they got close.

With the acquisition of Gakai and Sony building the new PS4 OS/PSN around it, they will finally match XBL. Question is, what will MS add to make the fees worth it. Probably their own version of PSN+ and who knows what else.

RR360DD

 

Oh please it was voice chat anc friend list on the original xbox and you still had to pump $50 a year,MS charge because the xbox was a money pit and they knew it since before launch,and continues to charge on 360 because people are suckers.

Evene the PS Vita does party chat free,there is no reason why MS should charge a cent for live,more when it has been free every where but on xbox consoles.

XBL has set the standard for online play on consoles. Deal with it.

It was the standard. Now its a money grab full of shitty and inferior features compared to standalone products.
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#75 posersRus84
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Because in 2002 it was worth it......11 years later it's not and xbox brand is dead.

Have a good day.

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#76 Tessellation
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Why TC thinks SWAG is cool?

:lol:

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#77 lunatic0495
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Still can't wrap my head around why some people care what others do.  If someone pays for LIVE, is it really a big deal?  If someone prefers PSN, is that a big deal? I can see people like the TC contemplating this:  Why go to McDonalds to buy a few cheeseburgers to bring home when you already have cheese in your fridge?  Just save money, buy hamburgers and put the cheese on when you get home.

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#78 scoots9
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Because it's the best. ShoulderOfOrion

Best on a console maybe.

Personally I wouldn't pay for Live, or an Xbox for that matter. Would consider paying for PSN+ if I had a PlayStation though.

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#79 Ly_the_Fairy
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Xbox Live download speeds are faster.

Patches are delivered much faster.

Cross game chat. Party chat.

Xbox Live Indie Games. Over 3000

Xbox Live Arcade.

Much more content than PSN.

Better GUI interface.

Xbox Storefront doesn't lag like PSN.

Everyone has mics to communicate with.

More services and apps available for Xbox

etc etc etc Could go on and on.

jimmypsn

And on top of this Xbox has multiplayer games that are actually worth playing.

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#80 LadyBlue
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I would never pay for online play. If both decide to charge for play, then I'll just keep the basic service.

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#81 wyan_
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Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

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#82 LadyBlue
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Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

wyan_

I'm sure that's why. lmao

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#83 OneInchMan99
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Oh look.its this thread again.

People pay for XboxLive...........that is all.

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#84 wyan_
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[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

Pete-B

I'm sure that's why. lmao

Yes, I'm exaggerating a little.

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[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

MS was the first in the console world to push online gaming and get it right. They was also first to start doing apps and better features but, sony has push really far and matching MS.

IF sony wasn't stupid about how they divided the ram in ps3. ps3 would had party chat by now

MS fails to do anything with that xbox gold money for it's customers now.

RR360DD

And this is why competition is good. XBL set the standard for online play, and was great from the beginning. Sony has had to play catchup for most of the gen, and they got close.

With the acquisition of Gakai and Sony building the new PS4 OS/PSN around it, they will finally match XBL. Question is, what will MS add to make the fees worth it. Probably their own version of PSN+ and who knows what else.


Finally match? You mean far surpass

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#86 Bigboi500
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If Sony puts up a paywall I wonder how many cows will pay to get online? I'm guessing about 90% of them will.

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#87 NathanDrakeSwag
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Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

wyan_

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

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#88 lostrib
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[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

NathanDrakeSwag

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

well then he would have to buy a Ps3 as well

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#89 wyan_
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[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

NathanDrakeSwag

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

That amount of money is piss to me. I have both systems and buy games on both.

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#90 wyan_
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

lostrib

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

well then he would have to buy a Ps3 as well

have both

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[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

NathanDrakeSwag

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?
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#92 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

mems_1224

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?

eating from the dumpster is so #swag and #yolo.
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#93 wyan_
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

mems_1224

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?

homeless gonna home

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#94 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="wyan_"]

Because I'm not a poor, penniless hippie like yourself.

mems_1224

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?

That analogy doesn't work. When you buy a meal you are actually getting something. When you buy a gold subscription you don't get anything.

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#95 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

NathanDrakeSwag

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?

That analogy doesn't work. When you buy a meal you are actually getting something. When you buy a gold subscription you don't get anything.

What does PSN do that XBL can't do?
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#96 lostrib
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

So you like throwing money in the trash instead of using the same service for free on PS3?

NathanDrakeSwag

So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant?

That analogy doesn't work. When you buy a meal you are actually getting something. When you buy a gold subscription you don't get anything.

 

you get the ability to play multiplayer games on line.  And streaming media services

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#97 TheEroica  Moderator
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Because they have to if they want to play online on the 360.

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I knew you'd end up as a belieber Michael... And you were so mad at me once for ruining your celena gomez fantasy... :P
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#98 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] So you like eating out of the dumpster instead of going to a restaurant? mems_1224

That analogy doesn't work. When you buy a meal you are actually getting something. When you buy a gold subscription you don't get anything.

What does PSN do that XBL can't do?

Not charge you to use features you already pay for. When you buy a PS3 game you own the entire game. When you buy a 360 game you have the option of paying yearly fees to rent its multiplayer.

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#99 wyan_
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That analogy doesn't work.

NathanDrakeSwag

Speaking of work, do you actually have an income? $60 a year (or whatever it is) is nothing if you are gainfully employed.

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#100 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Because they have to if they want to play online on the 360.

TheEroica

I knew you'd end up as a belieber Michael... And you were so mad at me once for ruining your celena gomez fantasy... :P

Not even close to being a Belieber. :P