Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

To make cows pay for online play when they bitch about it for an entire generation and $ONY sees those sweet clean profits that MS is raking in when they themsleves are selling buildings just to make ends meat.

FastEddie2121

haha funny

DEAR MS, I'LL PAY YOU SIXTY BUCKS A MONTH IF YOU PROMISE NOT TO GIVE ME ANY DECENT GAMES. PWEDDY PWEASE????

[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"]These days, they have to think Cross game chat is worth $60 a year. At the beginning of the gen, when it had no competition is one thing, but now? It's a joke.jimmypsn

[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]

To make cows pay for online play when they bitch about it for an entire generation and $ONY sees those sweet clean profits that MS is raking in when they themsleves are selling buildings just to make ends meat.

xxunnecessaryxs

haha funny

DEAR MS, I'LL PAY YOU SIXTY BUCKS A MONTH IF YOU PROMISE NOT TO GIVE ME ANY DECENT GAMES. PWEDDY PWEASE????

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   Both 299, you tell me which is a better valueblackace

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Witcher 2 Left 4 Dead 1 Left 4 Dead 2 Fez Trials Evo Trials HD Allan Wake Minecraft Shadow Complex Mark of the Ninja Monaco Super Meat Boy Splinter Cell Conviction Viva Pinata Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts Gateways Geometry Wars Geometry Wars Retro Evolved 2 Toy Soldiers Toy Soldiers Cold War Im sure there are a lot more games that 360 gets that PS3 doesntStringerboy

Only Flower and Journey are noteworthy.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="clr84651"]

Because they have to to play games online with an xbox. You'd rather have it be free. And that should be lems response always. Not make excuses as to why they like to pay for it or that MS has to charge, because they don't. They just choose to.

Murderstyle75

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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"]
RESISTANCE
WHITE KNIGHT
HEAVENLY SWORD
3D HEROES
VALKYRIA CHRON
MAG
WARHAWK/STARHAWK
RATCHET AND CLANK
SLY COOPER
MOTORSTORM
NINJA GAIDEN
SOCOM TWISTED
METAL KATAMARI
Ni oun Kuni
FLOWER
FLOW
JOURNEY
WIPEOUT
INFAMOUS
MODNATION
MY LIST EASILY TEARS YOURS INTO BITS AND NOTICE I ONLY LISTED ONE GAME PER FRANCHISE. I didn't say resistance 1,2,3 I said resistance. SO what does tell you.

xxunnecessaryxs

Only Flower and Journey are noteworthy.

lol, nothing drove cows more apeshyt ballistic  than watching the ps3 lose to a system that charged money for online.

this may have been the most entertaining  thing in sw to watch overall this entire  gen.

just think for one moment about how many xbl threads they have made.

i bet the average for the last 7 years has been a minimum of 4  a week... for longer than 7 freaking years.

hey cows and xbl... get a room already.

HaloAcidSoldner

lol, nothing drove cows more apeshyt ballistic  than watching the ps3 lose to a system that charged money for online.

this may have been the most entertaining  thing in sw to watch overall this entire  gen.

just think for one moment about how many xbl threads they have made.

i bet the average for the last 7 years has been a minimum of 4  a week... for longer than 7 freaking years.

hey cows and xbl... get a room already.

Riverwolf007

Cus cows don't have a job to pay 1$ a month for online.

[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Only Flower and Journey are noteworthy.

mems_1224

The casual consumer you mean. And its not opinion that the casual consumer is a complete idiot. The casual consumer promotes the shittiest of products and services.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="FastEddie2121"]

To make cows pay for online play when they bitch about it for an entire generation and $ONY sees those sweet clean profits that MS is raking in when they themsleves are selling buildings just to make ends meat.

xxunnecessaryxs

haha funny

DEAR MS, I'LL PAY YOU SIXTY BUCKS A MONTH IF YOU PROMISE NOT TO GIVE ME ANY DECENT GAMES. PWEDDY PWEASE????

lol, nothing drove cows more apeshyt ballistic  than watching the ps3 lose to a system that charged money for online.

this may have been the most entertaining  thing in sw to watch overall this entire  gen.

just think for one moment about how many xbl threads they have made.

i bet the average for the last 7 years has been a minimum of 4  a week... for longer than 7 freaking years.

hey cows and xbl... get a room already.

Riverwolf007

good shit :lol:

[QUOTE="speedfog"]

Cus cows don't have a job to pay 1$ a month for online.

xxunnecessaryxs

Lems spend 60 bucks a year on XBL and then sit around and wait for games...

And cows we're like....

And the lemmings are like buh we have no games and we has ads and pizza hut apps but we won SYSTEM WARS CAUSE IT'S OPPOSITE DAY!!!!!!!!!! AND THEY STAND UP AND CHEER

AND THEN SHEEP ARE LIKE

AND LEMS ARE LIKE

AND SHEEP ARE LIKE...

NEITHER DO WE...

AND THIS HAS TO BE THE BOREDEST I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE

[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"]

[QUOTE="speedfog"]

Cus cows don't have a job to pay 1$ a month for online.

Jakandsigz

Lems spend 60 bucks a year on XBL and then sit around and wait for games...

And cows we're like....

And the lemmings are like buh we have no games and we has ads and pizza hut apps but we won SYSTEM WARS CAUSE IT'S OPPOSITE DAY!!!!!!!!!! AND THEY STAND UP AND CHEER

AND THEN SHEEP ARE LIKE

AND LEMS ARE LIKE

AND SHEEP ARE LIKE...

NEITHER DO WE...

AND THIS HAS TO BE THE BOREDEST I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE

Not just Cross Game chat. Xbox Live download speeds are faster.

Patches are delivered much faster.

Cross game chat. Party chat.

Xbox Live Indie Games. Over 3000

Xbox Live Arcade.

Much more content than PSN.

Better GUI interface.

Xbox Storefront doesn't lag like PSN.

Everyone has mics to communicate with.

More services and apps available for Xbox

jimmypsn

A better Graphical User Interface interface? Fantastic!

When you type with Caps on can only mean a thing you're butthurt for getting owned,doesn't mean you're winning sad individual :(

cows need new arguments....it's been 7 years. Are you really that un original?

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]Once PS4 gamers get to using party chat it's not going to seem like such a small feature, having to wait until you're in a game lobby to talk to people is such a crap option, most times my friends hit me up as soon as they log onto XBL, if we're in two different games we can just chew the fat until we reach a good point to meet up in another game. Plus, games aren't perfect in their MP features, sometimes in games we're in a same lobby for matchmaking and then one of them can't make it into the game, and it'd be a friggin nightmare if I lost communication with them, I'd have to quit the game, or instead of playing the game I'd have to back out to check and write messages and we'd be sending invites and whatnot. Or sometimes games put us on different teams, being able to communicate while in party chat makes it easy to get into teams together since MP chat doesn't allow for communication between teams mid game. Plus, party chat keeps conversations private, so you don't have a horrible conversation going on with tons of people, just you and your friends can coordinate without interruptions from trolls or 8 year olds. Also chats cut out during loads and that's not so in party chat. The chat is also much clear and cleaner through party chat than through the MP chat. I know some cows say it's not a big deal, and maybe for them it's not in the sense that they'll switch console favoratism over it, but they're gonna like the feature of party chat next gen quite a bit. If Sony wants to have a free online option and a paid one, I think party chat could sell a paid service for Sony and I think people will adopt it. Add PS+ to that and Sony will have a much better service. Party chat was a major advantage for MS with XBL but once that's taken from them they'll really not have much else to set themselves apart.mems_1224

There is the option in BF3 to go on squad chat or team chat. you dont NEED party chat for BF3.

My friends and I are dumb that's why. AAllxxjjnn

All of the ridiculous bantering about LIVE is just that...bantering.  Bottom line is this:

Theres been some debate about whether or not Microsoft MSFT +0.08% will try to compete with Sony on a more direct level by going after one of their competitors best features: free online play. PSN has always been free while Xbox Live Gold is a dramatically more pricier option at $60 a year. Might Microsoft do away with that fee for their next-gen console, the mysterious Durango?

After seeing numbers like this, I cant see there being any possible way.

Microsoft says that Xbox Live subscriptionsare up 18% over last year, reaching a grand total of 46M, out of 77M Xboxes sold.

Theres simply no way on earth that Microsoft would ever consider forfeiting 46 million subscriptions (though some are free, limited access Silver variants), even if it would put them on equal footing with one of the PS3s selling points. This is also on top of the cut they take from everything sold on Xbox Live, and the ads they sell which are plastered all over the dashboard.

It can be argued that there is far more money in Xbox Live subscriptions than there is even in console sales. For example, I got my Xbox 360 seven years ago. I believe five of those years were at $50 a year for Xbox Live, while the others were $60. thats $370 Ive spent on the service alone, while I probably only paid $300 for the console itself. Of course Microsoft had to send me two replacements because of the red ring of death, which probably cost them a pretty pennybut thats a separate issue altogether.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/04/20/always-on-microsoft-xbox-live-subscriptions-up-to-46m-will-never-be-free/

Obviously this upsets certain people but I don't grasp as to why.  If your beloved console has free online why create threads seeming angry about this?  46 million people certainly don't care. 

[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]All of this. IDK how cows can enjoy games like BF3 with friends. That game always splits up squads and requires constant communicationmems_1224

I think most people play with real life friends regardless of what console they own.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lamprey263"]Once PS4 gamers get to using party chat it's not going to seem like such a small feature, having to wait until you're in a game lobby to talk to people is such a crap option, most times my friends hit me up as soon as they log onto XBL, if we're in two different games we can just chew the fat until we reach a good point to meet up in another game. Plus, games aren't perfect in their MP features, sometimes in games we're in a same lobby for matchmaking and then one of them can't make it into the game, and it'd be a friggin nightmare if I lost communication with them, I'd have to quit the game, or instead of playing the game I'd have to back out to check and write messages and we'd be sending invites and whatnot. Or sometimes games put us on different teams, being able to communicate while in party chat makes it easy to get into teams together since MP chat doesn't allow for communication between teams mid game. Plus, party chat keeps conversations private, so you don't have a horrible conversation going on with tons of people, just you and your friends can coordinate without interruptions from trolls or 8 year olds. Also chats cut out during loads and that's not so in party chat. The chat is also much clear and cleaner through party chat than through the MP chat. I know some cows say it's not a big deal, and maybe for them it's not in the sense that they'll switch console favoratism over it, but they're gonna like the feature of party chat next gen quite a bit. If Sony wants to have a free online option and a paid one, I think party chat could sell a paid service for Sony and I think people will adopt it. Add PS+ to that and Sony will have a much better service. Party chat was a major advantage for MS with XBL but once that's taken from them they'll really not have much else to set themselves apart.Karpetburnz

There is the option in BF3 to go on squad chat or team chat. you dont NEED party chat for BF3.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"] so now it's suddenly about friends? So you're saing you pay 60 bucks a month to party chat?Who needs games when you can monitor MS profits and give financial advice to angry 7 year olds on XBLKarpetburnz

I think most people play with real life friends regardless of what console they own.

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]All of this. IDK how cows can enjoy games like BF3 with friends. That game always splits up squads and requires constant communicationmems_1224

There is the option in BF3 to go on squad chat or team chat. you dont NEED party chat for BF3.

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you, or you can go on team chat. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

There is the option in BF3 to go on squad chat or team chat. you dont NEED party chat for BF3.

Karpetburnz

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] it constantly splits up squads into different teams and puts you in different squads when you enter a match. its alot easier to be able to talk to your friends to see where everyone is in party chat. I couldn't imagine playing that game on PS3, the matchmaking is horrible. mems_1224

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

xxunnecessaryxs

[QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] it constantly splits up squads into different teams and puts you in different squads when you enter a match. its alot easier to be able to talk to your friends to see where everyone is in party chat. I couldn't imagine playing that game on PS3, the matchmaking is horrible. mems_1224

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

Whats unnecessary? the option to create new squads? The option to go on team chat? both are pretty important features.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Karpetburnz"]

The game doesnt seperate you from your friends, If you and your friends are in the same squad then you will remain in the squad with your friends until you leave the server.

And if you join a game and get put into a different squad than your friends and their squad is full, simply create a new squad so your friends can play with you. seriously, communication is not an issue on the PS3 version.

Karpetburnz

Whats unnecessary? the option to create new squads? The option to go on team chat? both are pretty important features.