Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

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#251 xxunnecessaryxs
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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Sounds like a lot of unnecessary work mems_1224
sounds like a lot of who gives a shit? PSN/PS+>>>>XBL. PS3 Lib>>>XBOX Lib PS hardware>>>>Xbox Hardware PS3 fanbase=all gamers/core gamers. 360 fanbase=DUDE-SON-BRO-GUYS, 7-16 YEAR OLDS WITH TURTLE BEACH HEADSETS. PS3=STILL MORE GAMES COMING THIS YEAR, 360=GAMES....? WHAT ARE....GAMES???? GIVE ME YOUR WALLET!!!!

looks like you'd fit right in with the 360 crowd then. why so mad bro?

lol with the level of intelligence xbox fans display here, I'm trying really hard not to draw a rude statistical conclusion about people who support Microsoft.
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#252 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"] sounds like a lot of who gives a shit? PSN/PS+>>>>XBL. PS3 Lib>>>XBOX Lib PS hardware>>>>Xbox Hardware PS3 fanbase=all gamers/core gamers. 360 fanbase=DUDE-SON-BRO-GUYS, 7-16 YEAR OLDS WITH TURTLE BEACH HEADSETS. PS3=STILL MORE GAMES COMING THIS YEAR, 360=GAMES....? WHAT ARE....GAMES???? GIVE ME YOUR WALLET!!!!

looks like you'd fit right in with the 360 crowd then. why so mad bro?

lol with the level of intelligence xbox fans display here, I'm trying really hard not to draw a rude statistical conclusion about people who support Microsoft.

cool story bro
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#253 xxunnecessaryxs
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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] looks like you'd fit right in with the 360 crowd then. why so mad bro?mems_1224
lol with the level of intelligence xbox fans display here, I'm trying really hard not to draw a rude statistical conclusion about people who support Microsoft.

cool story bro

I arrest my case.

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#254 def_mode
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The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

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#255 xxunnecessaryxs
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The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

def_mode
THankk youuuu people will say anything just to hide facts. idiots
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#256 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"] lol with the level of intelligence xbox fans display here, I'm trying really hard not to draw a rude statistical conclusion about people who support Microsoft. xxunnecessaryxs

cool story bro

I arrestmy case.

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:lol: Face palm indeed :lol:

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#257 mems_1224
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The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

def_mode
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....
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#258 Michael0134567
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Lol arrest.

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#259 xxunnecessaryxs
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

mems_1224
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

how does that apply? Dude you're......wow. Oh wait you're a lemming nevermind. you were.never designed your logic
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#260 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

xxunnecessaryxs
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

how does that apply? Dude you're......wow. Oh wait you're a lemming nevermind. you were.never designed your logic

There are free multiplayer games better than the ones you find on PS3. Why would anyone ever pay for a multiplayer game? that is just stupid
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#261 mems_1224
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Lol arrest.

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Its pretty funny when someone who questions other people's intelligence makes a mistake like that. Hopefully English isn't his first language. :lol:
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#262 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] cool story bromems_1224

I arrestmy case.

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:lol: Face palm indeed :lol:

LMAO :lol:
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#263 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="xxunnecessaryxs"] lol with the level of intelligence xbox fans display here, I'm trying really hard not to draw a rude statistical conclusion about people who support Microsoft. xxunnecessaryxs

cool story bro

I arrest my case.

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What a tit

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#264 ninjapirate2000
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Arrest my case. Thank you MS.
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#265 FragTycoon
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Question: Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

Acceptable Answers:

A) Ignorance.

B) They only have a Xbox.

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#266 mems_1224
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Question: Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

Acceptable Answers:

A) Ignorance.

B) They only have a Xbox.

FragTycoon
I have every system and still pay for Live. U mad?
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]The casual consumer you mean. And its not opinion that the casual consumer is a complete idiot. The casual consumer promotes the shittiest of products and services.clone01
You never answered the question. My, you certainly are condescending to speak for what people find value in. Seems a little elitist and hipster to me.

Not an elitest at all. General consumers do not buy things based on quality. They do because of multi-million and multi-billion dollar marketing schemes. If quality meant anything, nobody would be drinking budweiser. Nobody would be using Turtle Beach headphones. People would listen to lossless audio which the Xbox 360 does not support. Hipsters wouldn't buy Beats by Dr Dre and there would be no such thing as reality television, Nicki Minaj or Justin Beiber.
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#268 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Question: Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

Acceptable Answers:

A) Ignorance.

B) They only have a Xbox.

mems_1224

I have every system and still pay for Live. U mad?

Nope.. u-ignorant?

:cool:

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#269 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

mems_1224
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.
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#270 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]The casual consumer you mean. And its not opinion that the casual consumer is a complete idiot. The casual consumer promotes the shittiest of products and services.Murderstyle75
You never answered the question. My, you certainly are condescending to speak for what people find value in. Seems a little elitist and hipster to me.

Not an elitest at all. General consumers do not buy things based on quality. They do because of multi-million and multi-billion dollar marketing schemes. If quality meant anything, nobody would be drinking budweiser. Nobody would be using Turtle Beach headphones. People would listen to lossless audio which the Xbox 360 does not support. Hipsters wouldn't buy Beats by Dr Dre and there would be no such thing as reality television, Nicki Minaj or Justin Beiber.

Sears Craftsman tools are highly regarded quality and a world wide seller. The Honda Accord is an extremely reliable, well-built car that sells tremendously well. You still haven't answered the question...Why are you deflecting that you seem to be the barometer for what people do and do not find value in. Again, elitist and condescending.
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#271 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

def_mode
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

If people didnt pay for Gold then XBL and PSN wouldn't be as good as they are today.
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#272 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Question: Why do people pay for Xbox Live?

Acceptable Answers:

A) Ignorance.

B) They only have a Xbox.

FragTycoon

I have every system and still pay for Live. U mad?

Nope.. u-ignorant?

:cool:

Nope
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#273 clone01
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

The main reason why people pay for xbox live is because they have no choice but to pay in order to play their multiplayer games. It is not because of the cross game chat or whatever etc. People wont be paying for it if multiplayer is free.

def_mode
People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

And you know that how?
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To unlock 2nd half of game they already paid for and to watch netflix they already paid a subscription fee for.
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#275 def_mode
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Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.
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#276 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....mems_1224
Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

If people didnt pay for Gold then XBL and PSN wouldn't be as good as they are today.

 

Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.

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#277 mems_1224
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Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.def_mode
 ......
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#278 def_mode
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....

Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

And you know that how?

Cause no one is going to pay for facebook app, twitter app and netflix app ROFL
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#279 clone01
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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="def_mode"] Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

And you know that how?

Cause no one is going to pay for facebook app, twitter app and netflix app ROFL

Why would you assume that? Because you don't care for them?
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#280 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.mems_1224
 ......

 

Yup, truth hurts. I used to game on XBL a lot and always pay annualy for Gold membership. But after playing games on PC via steam. I asked myself why do i have to pay for gold again?

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#281 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"]Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.def_mode

 ......

 

Yup, truth hurts. I used to game on XBL a lot and always pay annualy for Gold membership. But after playing games on PC via steam. I asked myself why do i have to pay for gold again?

You know that Steam makes their money off games they sell right? XBL doesn't have nearly the catalague of games that Steam has. So you're saying that you would rather have XBL sell only digital copies of every game?
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#282 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="clone01"] And you know that how?clone01
Cause no one is going to pay for facebook app, twitter app and netflix app ROFL

Why would you assume that? Because you don't care for them?

Cause those apps are offered free!!! (except netflix you have to pay for subscription) but paying another on top of that and considering you already pay for your ISP. ROFL MS loves you. Give them more money!

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#283 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] People wouldn't pay for games if they were free either. Nice logic.....mems_1224
Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold.

If people didn't pay for Gold then XBL and PSN wouldn't be as good as they are today.

PSN's ability to play games online has been the same from PS2..... and the same on PC before the first xbox came out. Chances are you use most of the same connections in connecting someone from the east coast to the west coast through PSN or XBL.... AND! you will still be peer hosted.

That is why I think you are in the "A" category.

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#284 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="def_mode"] Cause no one is going to pay for facebook app, twitter app and netflix app ROFLdef_mode

Why would you assume that? Because you don't care for them?

Cause those apps are offered free!!! (except netflix you have to pay for subscription) but paying another on top of that and considering you already pay for your ISP. ROFL MS loves you. Give them more money!

But you're assuming that someone, for any number of reasons, wouldn't care for that localized convenience in their living room. That's not really an accurate assertion. You seem to be speaking for every other consumer beside yourself, which is erroneous.
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#285 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"] Obviously you did not understand what I was trying to say. Let me rephrase it. If multiplayer was included in silver. Nobody will pay for Gold. FragTycoon

If people didn't pay for Gold then XBL and PSN wouldn't be as good as they are today.

PSN's ability to play games online has been the same from PS2..... and the same on PC before the first xbox came out. Chances are you use most of the same connections in connecting someone from the east coast to the west coast through PSN or XBL.... AND! you will still be peer hosted.

That is why I think you are in the "A" category.

So you're saying that PSN was not improved in any way by implementing options and services MS made popular? Or are you saying that PSN has not improved since the PS2? No one pays for XBL because they have to, its been the most consistent and best online service on consoles this entire gen. Guess what, people are willing to pay for quality services. Who would have thunk it?
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#286 def_mode
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] ......mems_1224

 

Yup, truth hurts. I used to game on XBL a lot and always pay annualy for Gold membership. But after playing games on PC via steam. I asked myself why do i have to pay for gold again?

You know that Steam makes their money off games they sell right? XBL doesn't have nearly the catalague of games that Steam has. So you're saying that you would rather have XBL sell only digital copies of every game?

lol you know nothing about Steam. What makes you think Steam only sells digital games? Half my games on Steam are from retail. Not gonna argue anymore with someone who doesnt know what he is talking about. /done
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#287 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

 

Yup, truth hurts. I used to game on XBL a lot and always pay annualy for Gold membership. But after playing games on PC via steam. I asked myself why do i have to pay for gold again?

def_mode
You know that Steam makes their money off games they sell right? XBL doesn't have nearly the catalague of games that Steam has. So you're saying that you would rather have XBL sell only digital copies of every game?

lol you know nothing about Steam. What makes you think Steam only sells digital games? Half my games on Steam are from retail. Not gonna argue anymore with someone who doesnt know what he is talking about. /done

Please, tell me how Steam makes their money since I clearly know nothing about it.
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="clone01"] You never answered the question. My, you certainly are condescending to speak for what people find value in. Seems a little elitist and hipster to me.

Not an elitest at all. General consumers do not buy things based on quality. They do because of multi-million and multi-billion dollar marketing schemes. If quality meant anything, nobody would be drinking budweiser. Nobody would be using Turtle Beach headphones. People would listen to lossless audio which the Xbox 360 does not support. Hipsters wouldn't buy Beats by Dr Dre and there would be no such thing as reality television, Nicki Minaj or Justin Beiber.

Sears Craftsman tools are highly regarded quality and a world wide seller. The Honda Accord is an extremely reliable, well-built car that sells tremendously well. You still haven't answered the question...Why are you deflecting that you seem to be the barometer for what people do and do not find value in. Again, elitist and condescending.

Ask any real mechanic and they will tell you that Craftsman tools now in fact suck. After 85 years, they are now made in china. It was pretty sad a couple years ago walking into Sears with one of my fathers old wrenches that finally broke only to have it swapped out for a Chinese piece of shit. And to be honest, most professionals use Snap On or Macs. And I'm not deflecting anything. This day in age, popular is the definition of shit for the most part and consumers are very easy targets.
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#289 clone01
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] And I'm not deflecting anything. This day in age, popular is the definition of shit for the most part.

Yep, and snap-on tools sell tremendously well. Didn't respond to the Honda Accord, I see. Keep backpeddling, elitist. You still keep deflecting. Wouldn't party chat, a service offered on XBL and not on PSN, be of value to some? A simple yes/no will suffice.
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#290 clone01
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Popular is the definition of shit for the most part and consumers are very easy targets.Murderstyle75
So both PC and Mac suck?
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] .

:lol: OMG
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#293 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Popular is the definition of shit for the most part and consumers are very easy targets.clone01
So both PC and Mac suck?

Actually Mac only has about a 5% marketshare and for the most part, Windows does suck. Especially Windows 8.
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lol. lvl 3 and wastedwisdom is already well on his way to becoming the village idiot. 

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#295 Ly_the_Fairy
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Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.def_mode

Steam an Xbox Live operate very differently, as does online gaming on PC, and on consoles.

Steam is simply a store with a few community features tacked on like chat, screenshot sharing, etc. Xbox Live is a media hub that hosts a variety of everything.

On PC, servers are paid for through donations. While you can access most servers for free, the fact of the matter is that every server you play on is being hosted out-of-pocket by your fellow gamers. For me alone, I spend $9 a month hosting a Minecraft server that only supports a handful of people comfortably at any given time. That's $108 a year for one game.

On consoles online doesn't function that way. Microsoft hosts online for every single game on the Xbox. There are no community-run servers that are maintained by donations.

Microsoft wouldn't make Xbox Live free because it costs them hundreds of millions of dollars to run the service as is. 

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#296 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]Tell that to Steam. Never asks for money but 10times better than XBL. If people stop paying (which i highly doubt will happen) MS will make multiplayer free. How can you not see this.Ly_the_Fairy

Steam an Xbox Live operate very differently, as does online gaming on PC, and on consoles.

Steam is simply a store with a few community features tacked on like chat, screenshot sharing, etc. Xbox Live is a media hub that hosts a variety of everything.

On PC, servers are paid for through donations. While you can access most servers for free, the fact of the matter is that every server you play on is being hosted out-of-pocket by your fellow gamers. For me alone, I spend $9 a month hosting a Minecraft server that only supports a handful of people comfortably at any given time. That's $108 a year for one game.

On consoles online doesn't function that way. Microsoft hosts online for every single game on the Xbox. There are no community-run servers that are maintained by donations.

Microsoft wouldn't make Xbox Live free because it costs them hundreds of millions of dollars to run the service as is. 

You are wrong and on Xbox Live, the games are run off of peer connections. That's why people are dumb enough to defend it. They think they are actually playing on Microsofts servers when they are not. The only exceptions are things like EA servers which Microsoft doesn't pay for either.
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#297 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Popular is the definition of shit for the most part and consumers are very easy targets.Murderstyle75
So both PC and Mac suck?

Actually Mac only has about a 5% marketshare and for the most part, Windows does suck. Especially Windows 8.

Subjective again. You keep assigning value to things that suit your agenda. You also never addressed the original point. Again, a simple yes/no will suffice.
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#298 WilliamRLBaker
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Hasnt nathandrakeswag made this thread twice before?

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#299 clone01
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Hasnt nathandrakeswag made this thread twice before?

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He seems to be obsessed with xbl for some reason.
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#300 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] And I'm not deflecting anything. This day in age, popular is the definition of shit for the most part.clone01
Yep, and snap-on tools sell tremendously well. Didn't respond to the Honda Accord, I see. Keep backpeddling, elitist. You still keep deflecting. Wouldn't party chat, a service offered on XBL and not on PSN, be of value to some? A simple yes/no will suffice.

 

PARTY CHAT IS FREE ON PS VITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.......:lol:

And let me kill your argument even more PSN has Home which regarless of you caring or no for it,is 100 times better than lame ass party chat,party chat just serve to talk,home is a gaming app free,where you can communicate with friends to,how can this be on a free service,with less ads than a charge to play service.?

Then there is Netflix which is better on PSN and free of any pay scheme,how about hulu.? Internet explorer really.? The PS3 has had a browser since launch.

I know your answer already since i have already debate this with you,oh but party chat is not on PSN,Party chat or (voice cheat) is not on PSN because of the PS3 memory configuration as simple as that,even the Vita has it and is less powerful than the PS3,but it has more ram to work with than the PS3 so it gets party chat.

There is not a single justification for xbox live,and it has no value what so ever,you pay and you get nothing out of it,but access to things that every one else already get for free else where that is simple stupid and sad,you pay because you are force to,if you don't pay you don't play as simple as that,you miss a complete part of your games,which on PS3 doesn't happen.

So which is superior in the end.?