Why does the "PC gaming is too expensive" argument still rage on??

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

lundy86_4

What makes you think people care for yours?

LOL, if yo b**** ass didn't care about what I had to say you would ignore my posts lol. Apparently my opinion hella matters to you people.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

ShadowMoses900

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

Stop being so angry, little kid. Or I will tell your parents.

Stop being a dirty ass ho, or else Ill tell yo mama you contracted HIV while makin my ass some greens on that corner of yours.

PC gaming is only expensive as you make it be.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

vtoshkatur

Stop being so angry, little kid. Or I will tell your parents.

Stop being a dirty ass ho, or else Ill tell yo mama you contracted HIV while makin my ass some greens on that corner of yours.

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Stop being so angry, little kid. Or I will tell your parents.

MLBknights58

Stop being a dirty ass ho, or else Ill tell yo mama you contracted HIV while makin my ass some greens on that corner of yours.

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Stop being so angry, little kid. Or I will tell your parents.

MLBknights58

Stop being a dirty ass ho, or else Ill tell yo mama you contracted HIV while makin my ass some greens on that corner of yours.

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

Nothing's wrong with me, I'm just having a little fun here. Under no circumstance should any of you take what I've been saying seriously. It's system wars and sometimes I feel like making a complete jackass of myself =P

IMO anyone who makes that argument hasn't looked into PC gaming or has only looked at alienware PC's. When I wanted to build a rig even though I had no idea what I was doing I went to a site where you put the parts together and they build it for you. After 2 months after I had paid my bills I bought my rig. Yeah it's more expensive than a console is up front but it's worth it for the fact that games are cheaper overall. At this point (since September) i've probably saved money than if I had bought the same games on console. Plus I was able to go back to older gens and get games I had either never played or played but didn't have the console anymore, examples being the half life games (never played before) or the max payne(don't have a ps2 anymore) games

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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

Stop being a dirty ass ho, or else Ill tell yo mama you contracted HIV while makin my ass some greens on that corner of yours.

wis3boi

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

And I took an arrow to the knee

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

vtoshkatur

And I took an arrow to the knee

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

What the fvck is wrong with you vtoshkaur? You've done nothing but be belligerent and hostile these past few days.

Take a break from the internet and come back when you want to play nice.

vtoshkatur

And I took an arrow to the knee

While on a quest to retrieve forsaid sweetroll

But this is system wars, Apparently this is serious business for some people =P

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

vtoshkatur

What makes you think people care for yours?

LOL, if yo b**** ass didn't care about what I had to say you would ignore my posts lol. Apparently my opinion hella matters to you people.

Not that I do, but I didn't specify myself. However, if you didn't care about their opinion, then why did you reply (using your own logic).

Also I haven't.... Errr I can't say it on here but I haven't partaked in a certian illegal activity of late so I'm kinda.... Yeah don't want a moderation for something as stupid as that but still I think you get the idea.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

What makes you think people care for yours?

lundy86_4

LOL, if yo b**** ass didn't care about what I had to say you would ignore my posts lol. Apparently my opinion hella matters to you people.

Not that I do, but I didn't specify myself. However, if you didn't care about their opinion, then why did you reply (using your own logic).

Because I'm trolling trolling trolling

PC Gaming is only expensive as you make it.

Um

I rent mostly.

$240/year to play everything, about the price of a WoW subscription.

Anything worthwhile I buy from bargain bins for usually half the Steam price.

Got Skyrim today for $45 new, it's $60 on Steam.

The best part?

Steam can't ban me from their service and take away my whole library with one mouse click.

At the end of this gen I will put everything on Ebay, get a few hundred bucks and move from there.

PC gaming is only good for pirates.

The customers are treated like garbage.

Um

I rent mostly.

$240/year to play everything, about the price of a WoW subscription.

Anything worthwhile I buy from bargain bins for usually half the Steam price.

Got Skyrim today for $45 new, it's $60 on Steam.

The best part?

Steam can't ban me from their service and take away my whole library with one mouse click.

At the end of this gen I will put everything on Ebay, get a few hundred bucks and move from there.

PC gaming is only good for pirates.

The customers are treated like garbage.

ZombieKiller7

You really have no idea about PC gaming do you

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Um

I rent mostly.

$240/year to play everything, about the price of a WoW subscription.

Anything worthwhile I buy from bargain bins for usually half the Steam price.

Got Skyrim today for $45 new, it's $60 on Steam.

The best part?

Steam can't ban me from their service and take away my whole library with one mouse click.

At the end of this gen I will put everything on Ebay, get a few hundred bucks and move from there.

PC gaming is only good for pirates.

The customers are treated like garbage.

vtoshkatur

You really have no idea about PC gaming do you

Got Skyrim today for $45 new, it's $60 on Steam.

The best part?

The customers are treated like garbage.

ZombieKiller7

Skyrim at 20 fps, low rez textures, and without mods.

Skyrim at 20 fps, low rez textures, and without mods.

Jankarcop

The exaggerations get more shrill every day, the game looks gorgeous and runs smooth.

And I own my purchase and it cannot be taken away from me by corporate decree.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Um

I rent mostly.

$240/year to play everything, about the price of a WoW subscription.

Anything worthwhile I buy from bargain bins for usually half the Steam price.

Got Skyrim today for $45 new, it's $60 on Steam.

The best part?

Steam can't ban me from their service and take away my whole library with one mouse click.

At the end of this gen I will put everything on Ebay, get a few hundred bucks and move from there.

PC gaming is only good for pirates.

The customers are treated like garbage.

reach3

You really have no idea about PC gaming do you

I bet you've never played a PC game before in your life. And steam doesn't suck, YOU SUCK!

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

You really have no idea about PC gaming do you

vtoshkatur

I bet you've never played a PC game before in your life. And steam doesn't suck, YOU SUCK!

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] obviously you don't. Valve has don ethis is the past. Steam sucks assreach3

I bet you've never played a PC game before in your life. And steam doesn't suck, YOU SUCK!

You're an idiot. I doubt you've even played Counter Srike 1.6 at 1280x1024. Try again lowly console noob.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] obviously you don't. Valve has don ethis is the past. Steam sucks assreach3

I bet you've never played a PC game before in your life. And steam doesn't suck, YOU SUCK!

And post a screenshot or it never happened.

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

I bet you've never played a PC game before in your life. And steam doesn't suck, YOU SUCK!

vtoshkatur

And post a screenshot or it never happened.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] I have played Crysis maxed @ 1080p before. Not much different compared to Gears 3. Try again failhermitreach3

And post a screenshot or it never happened.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Skyrim at 20 fps, low rez textures, and without mods.

ZombieKiller7

The exaggerations get more shrill every day, the game looks gorgeous and runs smooth.

And I own my purchase and it cannot be taken away from me by corporate decree.

Its that much better on it. Seriously,

I can't imagine ever playing it on consoles.

Steam is anti-consumer, DRM and spyware.

If your steam account gets suspended you lose access to your library (yes, even single player, yes even if you have the boxed disk.)

You can be suspended for letting your little brother play a game (account sharing), billing disputes or if the client detects illegal files, also people who have gotten their accounts hacked.

And there is no phone number to reach anyone. You e-mail and wait weeks not being able to play anything you bought until they investigate and either unban you or tell you to piss off.

Oh yeah PC gaming is real freedom.

Because regardless of getting something better, equal or even worse; when you look at the price tag it will still be higher than the price tag of a console.

Steam is anti-consumer, DRM and spyware.

If your steam account gets suspended you lose access to your library (yes, even single player, yes even if you have the boxed disk.)

You can be suspended for letting your little brother play a game (account sharing), billing disputes or if the client detects illegal files, also people who have gotten their accounts hacked.

And there is no phone number to reach anyone. You e-mail and wait weeks not being able to play anything you bought until they investigate and either unban you or tell you to piss off.

Oh yeah PC gaming is real freedom.

ZombieKiller7

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[QUOTE="hoola"]

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

OhSnapitz

To play all of this generations games I spent $628 on a PC in 2008 which was, at the time, less than the cost of a PS3 and 360

Since then I have also spent about $466 to purchase 150+ games

There are no games in the forseeable future that'll make me want to upgrade this computer because I don't get too bent out of shape over the fact that I have to play Crysis on med/high settings when I play 99% of the games I own at max settings.

I suggest next time to not buy pre-built if you want to save money. I was just comparing prices of them the other day, and you can literally build a PC for 30-50% off what they charge at a store if you want comparable specs.

Yes it did.

If your XBL account gets suspended you lose access to your libraryPC4lifeman2233

No

You don't even lose access to your XBLA games.

You only lose access to playing online.

XBLA probably is anti-consumer, just not as draconian as Steam.

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"]If your XBL account gets suspended you lose access to your libraryZombieKiller7

No

You don't even lose access to your XBLA games.

You only lose access to playing online.

XBLA probably is anti-consumer, just not as draconian as Steam.

If there was ever an exageration of how a game was better on PC, this isn't one of them.

Its that much better on it. Seriously,

Jankarcop

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Skyrim-PC-terrible-console-port/forum/FxMRG821TNA7PE/Tx19AA7M84Z2W0Z/2/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg2?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B004HYIAPM&cdSort=oldest

Your fellow hermits seem to disagree.

The PC version scored lower on customer reviews.

You're not doing the platform a favor by lying about stuff and making things up out of fanboyism.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

If there was ever an exageration of how a game was better on PC, this isn't one of them.

Its that much better on it. Seriously,

ZombieKiller7

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Skyrim-PC-terrible-console-port/forum/FxMRG821TNA7PE/Tx19AA7M84Z2W0Z/2/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg2?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B004HYIAPM&cdSort=oldest

Your fellow hermits seem to disagree.

The PC version scored lower on customer reviews.

You're not doing the platform a favor by lying about stuff and making things up out of fanboyism.

I can still play some of my games offline on Steam. PC4lifeman2233

Only if you never login to Steam ever again, as long as the games are installed on that PC, then you can play them in offline mode and the game won't know it's disabled.

If you mistakenly connect to Steam, it updates your permissions "wah wah wah" you can't run games you supposedly own.

What I've never understood is this.

Why do people defend Steam.

Blind fanboys.

Steam hijacks your platform. Wake up.

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] I have played Crysis maxed @ 1080p before. Not much different compared to Gears 3. Try again failhermitreach3

And post a screenshot or it never happened.

Ya cuz BB is known to have Crysis running at "1080p maxed." In 2008 they didn't even sell computers that could run that game at those settings. Actually in 2008 the best computers had around 4870s in CF and that would have a hard time maxing Crysis at 1900x1080. You just failed your own reply with stupidity. U Dumb?

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"]I can still play some of my games offline on Steam. ZombieKiller7

Only if you never login to Steam ever again, as long as the games are installed on that PC, then you can play them in offline mode and the game won't know it's disabled.

If you mistakenly connect to Steam, it updates your permissions "wah wah wah" you can't run games you supposedly own.

What I've never understood is this.

Why do people defend Steam.

Blind fanboys.

Steam hijacks your platform. Wake up.

[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

And post a screenshot or it never happened.

Dave_NBF

Ya cuz BB is known to have Crysis running at "1080p maxed." In 2008 they didn't even sell computers that could run that game at those settings. Actually in 2008 the best computers had around 4870s in CF and that would have a hard time maxing Crysis at 1900x1080. You just failed your own reply with stupidity. U Dumb?

my computers a refurbished emachines from bestbuy made in 2008 i can max out crysis easily.

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"]I can still play some of my games offline on Steam. ZombieKiller7

Only if you never login to Steam ever again, as long as the games are installed on that PC, then you can play them in offline mode and the game won't know it's disabled.

If you mistakenly connect to Steam, it updates your permissions "wah wah wah" you can't run games you supposedly own.

What I've never understood is this.

Why do people defend Steam.

Blind fanboys.

Steam hijacks your platform. Wake up.

You really know nothing of PC gaming and trying to put it down in each thread you go to never really makes you look any better. You might be overtaking loosingEnds for the dumbest poster in System Wars currently. At least, somewhere in his conscience, he knows he is trollbait. You try to sound like you know what you are talking about and just end up looking like a Dbag.

People used to complain about Steam when it's platform first was introduced. PC gamers are some of the most finnicky and cynical gamers out there; especially when it comes to "hijacking a platform." Consolites on the other hand have no problem paying XBL fees, DLC fees, having games come out before they are ready and patched as they go (like PC games but PC gamers complain about that). You want to know why few people complain about Steam? Because it's turned into an outstanding service/content provider.

I know I know, we get what you are about: You can't stand PC gaming, it's too confusing to you, you prefer PS3, you don't know anything about computers, upgrading, technology, and make even the most ignorant of posters tolerable. Congrats Nub.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Steam is anti-consumer, DRM and spyware.

If your steam account gets suspended you lose access to your library (yes, even single player, yes even if you have the boxed disk.)

You can be suspended for letting your little brother play a game (account sharing), billing disputes or if the client detects illegal files, also people who have gotten their accounts hacked.

And there is no phone number to reach anyone. You e-mail and wait weeks not being able to play anything you bought until they investigate and either unban you or tell you to piss off.

Oh yeah PC gaming is real freedom.

PC4lifeman2233

that's a big lie u dont even need to log into ur acount to play games u bought off xbox live marketplace.

you need to login to steam to play ur games even offline though.

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] How am I suppose to post a screenshot? I played it at BEst Buy in 2008 idiotwewantdoom4now

Ya cuz BB is known to have Crysis running at "1080p maxed." In 2008 they didn't even sell computers that could run that game at those settings. Actually in 2008 the best computers had around 4870s in CF and that would have a hard time maxing Crysis at 1900x1080. You just failed your own reply with stupidity. U Dumb?

my computers a refurbished emachines from bestbuy made in 2008 i can max out crysis easily.

That is so far from laudible it isn't even funny; even for a troll. I'll entertain it; please link me to the e-machine capable of running that in 2008. Thanks.

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

Ya cuz BB is known to have Crysis running at "1080p maxed." In 2008 they didn't even sell computers that could run that game at those settings. Actually in 2008 the best computers had around 4870s in CF and that would have a hard time maxing Crysis at 1900x1080. You just failed your own reply with stupidity. U Dumb?

Dave_NBF

my computers a refurbished emachines from bestbuy made in 2008 i can max out crysis easily.

That is so far from laudible it isn't even funny; even for a troll. I'll entertain it; please link me to the e-machine capable of running that in 2008. Thanks.

throw a 280 gtx run it on max

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Steam is anti-consumer, DRM and spyware.

If your steam account gets suspended you lose access to your library (yes, even single player, yes even if you have the boxed disk.)

You can be suspended for letting your little brother play a game (account sharing), billing disputes or if the client detects illegal files, also people who have gotten their accounts hacked.

And there is no phone number to reach anyone. You e-mail and wait weeks not being able to play anything you bought until they investigate and either unban you or tell you to piss off.

Oh yeah PC gaming is real freedom.

wewantdoom4now

that's a big lie u dont even need to log into ur acount to play games u bought off xbox live marketplace.

you need to login to steam to play ur games even offline though.

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

[QUOTE="PC4lifeman2233"] XBL is anti-consumer, DRM and ad ware. If your XBL account gets suspended you lose access to your library (yes, even single player, yes even if you have the boxed disk.) You can be suspended for letting your little brother play a game (account sharing), billing disputes or if the client detects illegal files, also people who have gotten their accounts hacked. And there is a phone to India to someone who barely speaks English. You e-mail and wait weeks not being able to play anything you bought until they investigate and either unban you or tell you to piss off. Oh yeah console gaming is real freedom.PC4lifeman2233

that's a big lie u dont even need to log into ur acount to play games u bought off xbox live marketplace.

you need to login to steam to play ur games even offline though.

bs steam forces me to log into it to play DNF offline

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

my computers a refurbished emachines from bestbuy made in 2008 i can max out crysis easily.

wewantdoom4now

That is so far from laudible it isn't even funny; even for a troll. I'll entertain it; please link me to the e-machine capable of running that in 2008. Thanks.

throw a 280 gtx run it on max

Again, link me to the e-machine you bought. Show me the model of E-machine you have. It's not exactly easy to "throw in a 280GTX" in an E-machine. U mad? Nah..U 2 Dumb to Mad.