Why does the "PC gaming is too expensive" argument still rage on??

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]400euros console ( average in 2007 ) + 59.99/69.99 for each game . 750euros PC ( in 2007 ) + games 29.99 to 49.99 ( not including the fact of superior quality , free DLC content , free mods , better online ,and way better deals overall) Now do your math how many games a gamer can own in 5 years and he is your cheaper console gaming.AzatiS

You assume one buys games at full price and does not wait for a price drop.

It's apparent that even though I brought up the point that not everyone buys full priced games, you still predicate your argument on it. That's not a good idea :?

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You assume one buys games at full price and does not wait for a price drop.

lundy86_4

It's apparent that even though I brought up the point that not everyone buys full priced games, you still predicate your argument on it. That's not a good idea :?

**** buying new pc's get refurbished budget pc gaming owns u pay more money and when u install a video card into a prebuilt it voids the warranty so u might aswell just buy refurbished.

Because when I already own a console (and yes, I'm sticking with consoles for portability/simplicity) the initial investment required for me to build a desktop is a lot. I was looking at it, but with everything included (speakers, monitor, OS, along with the hardware) it'd be well over £500/600. I'd much rather wait for next gen and drop £300ish. Granted I play games on my laptop, but that's vital for me due to uni, not lugging a desktop around as well.

**** buying new pc's get refurbished budget pc gaming owns u pay more money and when u install a video card into a prebuilt it voids the warranty so u might aswell just buy refurbished.

wewantdoom4now

[QUOTE="Ginosaji"]

When people say consoles are cheaper, what they really mean is that it's cheaper to let their parents buy them consoles than it is for them to buy their own gaming PC. In reality, gaming is not cheap. And, ironically, in the long run my Xbox 360 (hardware, software, subscription fees, etc.) proved to be more expensive than my PC, despite me being primarily a PC gamer.

On a side note, it's amusing to see console gamers complain about the price of PC hardware, and in another thread to see the very same console gamers brag about gaming on their 55"+ HDTVs.

brennanhuff

lol. Since I have them all, I will do the basic arithemetic at the time of purchase for the slow PC gamers on these forums.

$2060 (my gaming laptop with no games)

- $760 (360, 4 games, accessories and Live fee for a year)

- $520 (PS3 and 2 games)

- $300 (Wii and 10 vc games)

- $200 (PSP and 2 games)

- $200 (5 years of Xbox Live)

= PC gamers are ignorant

So for the same price of a good gaming laptop with no games, you could get all three consoles, a handheld, 17 games AND 6 years of Xbox Live fees.

Yeah, PC gaming is SO WORTH IT!!!!!! Teh Gxggrraaapppphhixxzzzz`1111!!!!!11

Whats your point by saying that? Dont get it. AzatiS

You're assuming one is cheaper than the other, but you're basing it on factors that do not make sense. Not everybody buys games upon release for full price. Thus, your comparison is innaccurate.

Cause it's true?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]400euros console ( average in 2007 ) + 59.99/69.99 for each game . 750euros PC ( in 2007 ) + games 29.99 to 49.99 ( not including the fact of superior quality , free DLC content , free mods , better online ,and way better deals overall) Now do your math how many games a gamer can own in 5 years and he is your cheaper console gaming.AzatiS

You assume one buys games at full price and does not wait for a price drop.

[QUOTE="wewantdoom4now"]

**** buying new pc's get refurbished budget pc gaming owns u pay more money and when u install a video card into a prebuilt it voids the warranty so u might aswell just buy refurbished.

Ravensmash

Nope developers got u brainwashed.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Whats your point by saying that? Dont get it. lundy86_4

You're assuming one is cheaper than the other, but you're basing it on factors that do not make sense. Not everybody buys games upon release for full price. Thus, your comparison is innaccurate.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You assume one buys games at full price and does not wait for a price drop.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"] Yeah and i didnt even talk about that in 2007 PS3 had 599 , extra pads , kinects , moves , pay to play online on Xlive , and that PC has great games on 4$$ price tag over STEAM when the same title is like 19.99 on consoles let alone the thousands 100% free to play PC games all over. I let that aside yeah to make as much even as i could

AzatiS

saved 180, spent on hookers.

Umm...because it is. Hermits on here try to downplay the costs and cons of PC gaming, they are no different from any other idiot fanboy. I have my own personal experince with PC gaming, and it get's pretty pricey, far more expensivce than consoles in the short term AND long term.

First you have to upgrade your rig and to do that you have to get all the right parts and make sure they are compatible,

then you have to spend literally HOURS making sure they work right and configuring with them (this also requires having alot of knowledge of PC's),

then when you FINALLY get your game you have to make sure the settings are compatible, if not your screwed.

Then in the next 5 months you gotta upgrade all over again.

This is very expensive, and very frustrating. Games may be cheaper on PC, but they arn't really. You have to factor in how much it will cost to upgrade your PC in order to play those "cheap games", also piracey is rampant on PC, more so than any other platform. So in short; it IS more expensive.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Whats your point by saying that? Dont get it. AzatiS

You're assuming one is cheaper than the other, but you're basing it on factors that do not make sense. Not everybody buys games upon release for full price. Thus, your comparison is innaccurate.

There are far more variables. Console owners can purchase games when they reduce in price or used, thus reducing the overall cost. That's the thing you are trying to compare in order to say the PC is cheaper.

I don't see how you have trouble ascertaining this fact :?

Umm...because it is. Hermits on here try to downplay the costs and cons of PC gaming, they are no different from any other idiot fanboy. I have my own personal experince with PC gaming, and it get's pretty pricey, far more expensivce than consoles in the short term AND long term.

First you have to upgrade your rig and to do that you have to get all the right parts and make sure they are compatible,

Assuming you build your own at all. You can buy premade gaming PCs on various websites

then you have to spend literally HOURS making sure they work right and configuring with them (this also requires having alot of knowledge of PC's),

Back to my first point

then when you FINALLY get your game you have to make sure the settings are compatible, if not your screwed.

Load game, select auto detect graphics, play. Sounds hard

Then in the next 5 months you gotta upgrade all over again.

Stop being so ignorant, it hurts

This is very expensive, and very frustrating. Games may be cheaper on PC, but they arn't really. You have to factor in how much it will cost to upgrade your PC in order to play those "cheap games", also piracey is rampant on PC, more so than any other platform. So in short; it IS more expensive.

What does piracy have to do with how much it costs?

ShadowMoses900

then when you FINALLY get your game you have to make sure the settings are compatible, if not your screwed.

ShadowMoses900

The vast majority of games today have auto-detect settings or simply automatically adjust.

Then in the next 5 months you gotta upgrade all over again.

ShadowMoses900

Haven't upgraded in 4 years. That totally disproves this point.

This is very expensive, and very frustrating. Games may be cheaper on PC, but they arn't really. You have to factor in how much it will cost to upgrade your PC in order to play those "cheap games",

ShadowMoses900

Exactly the point many PC gamers here make. The money you save buying numerous games can often negate the upgrade cost.

also piracey is rampant on PC, more so than any other platform. So in short; it IS more expensive.

ShadowMoses900

I don't see the relevance of piracy with regards to the price of a PC.

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

ShadowMoses900

Countering your argument doesn't necessarily mean downplaying it. To downplay it, your account must be accurate. I outlined the innaccurate parts of your post and replied to them.

If you can't counter what I said, just admit you were wrong. It's all good :)

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Guys I am just curious why when someone throws out the "Why don't you game on PC" threads one of the very first arguments by non PC gamers is the $$$ of doing so? The reality is that every one of us that partakes in these very forums has a PC. Now while the vast majority of us dont have that "Gaming rig" with the perfect combinations of CPU's, GPU's, RAM and whatnot, odds are that your PC's can run every game that your 360 or PS3 can at equal or better visual quality. Heck, I have a DELL XPS Laptop that I play Crysis 2, BF3, Skyrim and KoA Reckoning on with no issues! There are always the arguments that you have to constantly upgrade graphics cards and whatnot. This is not true unless you happen to be one of those people who HAS to have the best at all times. Im betting there are "hardcore" PC gamers in these forums that haven't bought a new video card in over 2 or 3 years. How about the cost of games? From my experience PC games are on average $10 cheaper than their console counter parts and services like STEAM and Amazon have fantastic deals all of the time for downloads. Again, this is not about the comfort of the chair you game in or a preference of controller Vs. M/KB, this is about anti PC gamers using the almighty $$$ as a reason not to game on PC!! I don't think this argument holds any water!!lazerface216

not even remotely close to being true btw...

you sir are clueless.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

lundy86_4

Countering your argument doesn't necessarily mean downplaying it. To downplay it, your account must be accurate. I outlined the innaccurate parts of your post and replied to them.

If you can't counter what I said, just admit you were wrong. It's all good :)

Just admit that you lied about not having to upgrade for 4 years. You must not be playing the newest games I guess.

Just admit that you lied about not having to upgrade for 4 years. You must not be playing the newest games I guess.

ShadowMoses900

Around 3 years and 9 months. Is that accurate enough for you?

Just admit that you were wrong.

I think you overestimate the average PC. My HP PC is pretty old, I would have to replace pretty much everything. Plus, I would need a new monitor. Also, if I'm going to do it, I would want to run everything on high, or what's the point? So yes, $1000 for a PC and monitor is a lot more expensive than a console.Deathtransit

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

hoola

I dare you to link your high end gaming PC and what games you play.

You lying in my face right now

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Just admit that you lied about not having to upgrade for 4 years. You must not be playing the newest games I guess.

lundy86_4

Around 3 years and 9 months. Is that accurate enough for you?

Just admit that you were wrong.

He doesn't know how. I guarantee if consoles were announced with having an "upgraded GPU in 3 years" they would be all over it.

I think PC gaming can be cheaper OR more expensive; depending how you tailor your experience. I personally tailor my experience to the bleeding edge so I do pay more than console gaming. Howver I pay MUCH more since I own and play consoles. Most consolites just game on consoles. The irony is that the average console gamer spends more in games than a high end gaming PC despite what they try to sell on these boards.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Just admit that you lied about not having to upgrade for 4 years. You must not be playing the newest games I guess.

lundy86_4

Around 3 years and 9 months. Is that accurate enough for you?

Just admit that you were wrong.

How do you manage to play the best and newest PC games without havingto upgrade for 4 years? Please explain this to me, it would save people alot of money.

The fact is you can build a gaming pc on the cheap. How e-bay and overclocking. Not to mention that gpu prices fall fast when the next wave hits. You have pc gamers that must have the latest and greatest pc. They often go to boards and sell their "old" stuff for a quarter to a third of the price of say newegg. You can even find unlocked I7 cpu's if you know where to look. Many of my parts are second hand that people sold me. You can build a 500 buck gaming pc that will max out any dx11 game if you buy the right parts and overclock. That same money gets you a xbox with motion and xbox live and a second controller. That same pc can do much more than play games and there is a ton of freeware out there.no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Just admit that you lied about not having to upgrade for 4 years. You must not be playing the newest games I guess.

ShadowMoses900

Around 3 years and 9 months. Is that accurate enough for you?

Just admit that you were wrong.

How do you manage to play the best and newest PC games without havingto upgrade for 4 years? Please explain this to me, it would save people alot of money.

You can play the newest games on 4 year old hardware. If you bought a good q6600 with 2X 4870 in CF that can still play not only the latest games; but relatively high settings.

If you are a savvy buyer and invest in a good foundation for your first gaming rig (oustanding CASE, PSU, Fans, hard drives, etc) you can carry that forward almost indefinitely. So at most you just need to do a major overhaul when a new Socket comes out (Mobo/ram/CPU). The GPUs only need to be upgraded when you aren't gaming the way you like. I personally wouldnt still game on 2 4870s but it still plays almost everything on high settings. I am referencing 2008 technology so I don't see how you think this is not probable for people.

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

ShadowMoses900

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

vtoshkatur

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

How do you manage to play the best and newest PC games without havingto upgrade for 4 years? Please explain this to me, it would save people alot of money.

ShadowMoses900

PC games have, and always will be, scalable. I still largely play in 1080p. Regardless, your point stated that you have to upgrade every 5 months. Unless you buy a severely outdated card, you will still be running games very similarly to those you ran 5 months ago.

Anyway, you seem to have become focussed on this singular aspect of my rebuttal. Here's the whole post:

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

then when you FINALLY get your game you have to make sure the settings are compatible, if not your screwed.

lundy86_4

The vast majority of games today have auto-detect settings or simply automatically adjust.

Then in the next 5 months you gotta upgrade all over again.

ShadowMoses900

Haven't upgraded in 4 years. That totally disproves this point.

This is very expensive, and very frustrating. Games may be cheaper on PC, but they arn't really. You have to factor in how much it will cost to upgrade your PC in order to play those "cheap games",

ShadowMoses900

Exactly the point many PC gamers here make. The money you save buying numerous games can often negate the upgrade cost.

also piracey is rampant on PC, more so than any other platform. So in short; it IS more expensive.

ShadowMoses900

I don't see the relevance of piracy with regards to the price of a PC.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

AzatiS

AMD X2 3800
2gb ram (Its funny because at the time everyone was saying "all you need is 2gb for gaming!" and now its 4, and soon it will be 8. :lol:

8800GTS
Supreme commander, unplayable (probably a CPU problem, though)
STALKER Medium/High, but this game doesn't look great anyways
Mirrors Edge Medium/high
Crysis Medium/Low
Crysis 2 unplayable (probably a CPU issue again)
Metro 2033 medium
Trine Medium
WoW high
Medal of Honor minimum/close to unplayable
Black Ops Medium/Minimum (funny because MW2 plays on max)
Bioshock High
Everything Source engine: High
Bad Company 2 unplayable

I'm not even going to attempt to run MW3, Battlefield 3, or pretty much any new game that comes out that has graphics better than Black Ops. Heck, most games on max hardly look good better than consoles to the point that it can justify the price of the machine. If i'm spending double the price of a console on a gaming PC, then i'd expect double the quality of graphics, but we don't get that because developers aren't developing their games for PC anymore (Like Crysis, Doom 3, and HL2). Now we get slightly better textures, higher resolution, and AA. Yay.

Without developer support then the PC, graphics wise, is really hardly above consoles.

Of course, in 4 years time that 6870 that I would like to upgrade to is going to be running most games at low/medium and i'll need to spend another $500 to upgrade the comptuer again while the people who buy a PS4 and 720 will playing right along.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Like I said, hermits will downplay it. They kinda have to, the more money you spend on something the more you try to justify it, even if you don't want to admit it. Consoles are better for gaming, no stupid hassle and no stupid frustration. And ever since I upgraded my PC I can't play many of my older games.

These are things Hermits don't want to admit.

vtoshkatur

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

Stop being so angry, little kid. Or I will tell your parents.

You just a dumb motherf***ing b****, you aint no one important, no one cares about yo stupid ass opinion.

vtoshkatur

What makes you think people care for yours?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

PC games have, and always will be, scalable. I still largely play in 1080p. Regardless, your point stated that you have to upgrade every 5 months. Unless you buy a severely outdated card, you will still be running games very similarly to those you ran 5 months ago.

Anyway, you seem to have become focussed on this singular aspect of my rebuttal. Here's the whole post:

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

then when you FINALLY get your game you have to make sure the settings are compatible, if not your screwed.

lundy86_4

The vast majority of games today have auto-detect settings or simply automatically adjust.

Then in the next 5 months you gotta upgrade all over again.

ShadowMoses900

Haven't upgraded in 4 years. That totally disproves this point.

This is very expensive, and very frustrating. Games may be cheaper on PC, but they arn't really. You have to factor in how much it will cost to upgrade your PC in order to play those "cheap games",

ShadowMoses900

Exactly the point many PC gamers here make. The money you save buying numerous games can often negate the upgrade cost.

also piracey is rampant on PC, more so than any other platform. So in short; it IS more expensive.

ShadowMoses900

I don't see the relevance of piracy with regards to the price of a PC.

Okay, if what your saying is true than I admit I was wrong. Now get over it.

I still think Console gaming is better and cheaper

Okay, if what your saying is true than I admit I was wrong. Now get over it.

I still think Console gaming is better and cheaper

ShadowMoses900

Nothing wrong with thinking it is better, and it would likely be cheaper.

Still, you have to be more realistic with your posts. I left out some of the things you posted that I felt were accurate.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Okay, if what your saying is true than I admit I was wrong. Now get over it.

I still think Console gaming is better and cheaper

lundy86_4

Nothing wrong with thinking it is better, and it would likely be cheaper.

Still, you have to be more realistic with your posts. I left out some of the things you posted that I felt were accurate.

Hermits do downplay the costs though, I upgraded my PC and it's not super cheap like PC fanboys make it out to be. Mabey it isn't as expensive as I thought, but it's not this super bargin like they say it is.

I have seen many PC threads on here and alot of the Hermits claim they got upgrades at really cheap prices that I know arn't true at all.

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

hoola

To play all of this generations games I spent $628 on a PC in 2008 which was, at the time, less than the cost of a PS3 and 360

Since then I have also spent about $466 to purchase 150+ games

There are no games in the forseeable future that'll make me want to upgrade this computer because I don't get too bent out of shape over the fact that I have to play Crysis on med/high settings when I play 99% of the games I own at max settings.

I suggest next time to not buy pre-built if you want to save money. I was just comparing prices of them the other day, and you can literally build a PC for 30-50% off what they charge at a store if you want comparable specs.

He doesn't know how. I guarantee if consoles were announced with having an "upgraded GPU in 3 years" they would be all over it.

I think PC gaming can be cheaper OR more expensive; depending how you tailor your experience. I personally tailor my experience to the bleeding edge so I do pay more than console gaming. Howver I pay MUCH more since I own and play consoles. Most consolites just game on consoles. The irony is that the average console gamer spends more in games than a high end gaming PC despite what they try to sell on these boards.

Dave_NBF

Depends on the circumstances really. Steam offers great games for cheap, console can't touch the sales. But Steam can't really keep up with the rental market that consoles offer, to say nothing of loaning between friends.

Since moving from only gaming on 360 to gaming on PC, I probably spend about the same amount of money annually on video games. And I was extremely frugal with purchases on the 360.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]The fact is you can build a gaming pc on the cheap. How e-bay and overclocking. Not to mention that gpu prices fall fast when the next wave hits. You have pc gamers that must have the latest and greatest pc. They often go to boards and sell their "old" stuff for a quarter to a third of the price of say newegg. You can even find unlocked I7 cpu's if you know where to look. Many of my parts are second hand that people sold me. You can build a 500 buck gaming pc that will max out any dx11 game if you buy the right parts and overclock. That same money gets you a xbox with motion and xbox live and a second controller. That same pc can do much more than play games and there is a ton of freeware out there.savagetwinkie

Hermits do downplay the costs though, I upgraded my PC and it's not super cheap like PC fanboys make it out to be. Mabey it isn't as expensive as I thought, but it's not this super bargin like they say it is.

I have seen many PC threads on here and alot of the Hermits claim they got upgrades at really cheap prices that I know arn't true at all.

ShadowMoses900

It can be relatively cheap. Unless I see the specific prices, I can't determine whether or not they're lying.

You say that you know it's not true, and yet you accused me of lying with absolutely no evidence to the contrary. It's hard to take your word as law shadow.

I upgraded my PC and it's not super cheap like PC fanboys make it out to be. Mabey it isn't as expensive as I thought, but it's not this super bargin like they say it is.ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Okay, if what your saying is true than I admit I was wrong. Now get over it.

I still think Console gaming is better and cheaper

ShadowMoses900

Nothing wrong with thinking it is better, and it would likely be cheaper.

Still, you have to be more realistic with your posts. I left out some of the things you posted that I felt were accurate.

Hermits do downplay the costs though, I upgraded my PC and it's not super cheap like PC fanboys make it out to be. Mabey it isn't as expensive as I thought, but it's not this super bargin like they say it is.

I have seen many PC threads on here and alot of the Hermits claim they got upgrades at really cheap prices that I know arn't true at all.

I never will say PC gaming is cheaper for me because I game at a high end. But gaming is tailored to the enduser on the PC so for Lundy PC gaming could be cheaper than console gaming.

While I agree that hermits tend to ove-exaggerate the low cost of PC gaming, the same can be said for console only users who themselves fail to honestly look at their gaming habits.

Not only is DLC thriving, it means console users are spending a lot of money on content. I do game on all the major systems and there is no denying (and anyone with a relatively small brain realizes this) that PC gamers tend to play the same games over a longer period of time due to:

1. mods

2. gaming community

3. typically more involved experiences.

Yes there are deviations to this rule but generally this is true; even with the same game like L4D 2. That game still thrives on the PC and is very popular and I bet no one on console plays it.

Console games tend to be shallower experiences on the whole. So if you look at the average console gamers library, they have a TON of games. So just as a PC gamer might not be as realistic with the type of upgrades they spend, the console gamer exaggerates how many games they "rent" or "buy used." I would say the average console gamer for any given system over a generation has about a tricked out gaming PC pre-built just in games alone.

So that goes both ways.....

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Okay, if what your saying is true than I admit I was wrong. Now get over it.

I still think Console gaming is better and cheaper

ShadowMoses900

Nothing wrong with thinking it is better, and it would likely be cheaper.

Still, you have to be more realistic with your posts. I left out some of the things you posted that I felt were accurate.

Hermits do downplay the costs though, I upgraded my PC and it's not super cheap like PC fanboys make it out to be. Mabey it isn't as expensive as I thought, but it's not this super bargin like they say it is.

I have seen many PC threads on here and alot of the Hermits claim they got upgrades at really cheap prices that I know arn't true at all.

[QUOTE="hoola"]

I bought a high end computer in 2007 and it is already only capable of running most modern games at only medium/minimum specs. I spent $1400 prebuilt, it would have been $1250 if i had assembled it myself. People who bought a PS3 in early 2007 would have paid $600, people who bought a 360 would have paid (I can't remember, $400?), and thats that. I now have to spend another $500-$600 to upgrade my computer to a good medium/high end range (6870, i5 2400, 4gb ram, new MB, new OS). So in the time that I spent, or could have spent, $1750 - $2000, console gamers spent only hundreds. If they bought a PS3 then that would have been (2000-600) 1400 available for games, or (1400/60) 23 $60 games.

PC gaming is more expensive, get over it.

Now, do you get more value for your purchase of a PC? With Kb/m, free games, cheaper games, more games, better graphics (for a few years atleast), and better functionality (you can do more than just entertainment on your PC), Then I would say yes. It is a better value. But it is in no way cheaper.

SW__Troll

To play all of this generations games I spent $628 on a PC in 2008 which was, at the time, less than the cost of a PS3 and 360

Since then I have also spent about $466 to purchase 150+ games

There are no games in the forseeable future that'll make me want to upgrade this computer because I don't get too bent out of shape over the fact that I have to play Crysis on med/high settings when I play 99% of the games I own at max settings.

I suggest next time to not buy pre-built if you want to save money. I was just comparing prices of them the other day, and you can literally build a PC for 30-50% off what they charge at a store if you want comparable specs.