Why don't console peasants admit defeat to their PC Gaming Overlords?

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="metaknight36"]

because console gamers get laid?

ChubbyGuy40

--- PC gamer with a daughter. There goes your theory right out the window.

Do you have a girlfriend right now?

Last time I checked, right hands still count.

Don't mind me Just playing Some Soul Calibur 2 on PC in 1200P.RyviusARC

That's very lame man.

1200p?

Just compare that to my Soul Calibur 2 in 480p.

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]Don't mind me Just playing Some Soul Calibur 2 on PC in 1200P.LegatoSkyheart

That's very lame man.

1200p?

Just compare that to my Soul Calibur 2 in 480p.

Wait wait wait. You honestly believe that a game running at 720x480 will look anywhere near as goodcompared to a game running at 1920x1200(I think that's the resolution he's talking about, he may be using multiple monitors in which the first number will be alot higher)? Also many console games like halo and such don't even run at 480p, they run it at a lower res and then scale it up. So lets give it the benefit of the doubt and say it does run at 480p. Lets count pixels shall we.

720x480=345,600

1920x1200=2,304,000

My pc won't even run syrim at that low a res.

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

Snyper007-2

I think the biggest issue with gaming on a PC is actually getting a gaming PC. I believe most people out there have a PC, but as far as gaming capable, I doubt it. It's not as simple as throwing in a graphics card, as I recently found out. You may have to upgrade the power supply, add ram, or pray that you have the correct slots, ie PCI , or PCI express. I'm not slamming PC gamers because I plan on gaming on mine once I get it prepped properly, but this has been a little bit of a learning experience. I made the mistake of purchasing a cheap graphics card, ati hd5450, for only 49.99. Big mistake. I seen that it had 1gb DDR3, so I assumed it would be possible to game on it.Wrong. After doing some research I found that you at least need to spend no less than 100.00 for a decent card, but after you purchase it you may need to upgrade your power supply.The thing with a console is you just pop the game in and play. You don't have to worry if your machine can run it, or if you have the proper drivers downloaded.

[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

Shielder7

He's talking about this gen only, lmao..

because console gamers get laid?

metaknight36

I think the biggest issue with gaming on a PC is actually getting a gaming PC. I believe most people out there have a PC, but as far as gaming capable, I doubt it. It's not as simple as throwing in a graphics card, as I recently found out. You may have to upgrade the power supply, add ram, or pray that you have the correct slots, ie PCI , or PCI express. I'm not slamming PC gamers because I plan on gaming on mine once I get it prepped properly, but this has been a little bit of a learning experience. I made the mistake of purchasing a cheap graphics card, ati hd5450, for only 49.99. Big mistake. I seen that it had 1gb DDR3, so I assumed it would be possible to game on it.Wrong. After doing some research I found that you at least need to spend no less than 100.00 for a decent card, but after you purchase it you may need to upgrade your power supply.The thing with a console is you just pop the game in and play. You don't have to worry if your machine can run it, or if you have the proper drivers downloaded.

godzillavskong

8800GT can be for bought for $50 good thing AMD APUs are around these prebuilts are becoming more gaming capable.

[QUOTE="legol1"]

even if pc is awesome for gaming i still need a console because there too many genre lacking on pc . and my friends are xbox live fanboy.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

pc has more genres than consoles

i bought ps3/360 for exclusives.

Some genre's dont have as much on the PC really well KOF and MK for fighting games for a start arent readily available on the PC are they or the Tekken games :P if your a fighter fan its worth having a PS3 to be pretty blunt.

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

tenaka2

We are only rebelling for a 3 system democracy not a totalitarian state :P

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

tenaka2

your sig is awesome always makes me laugh

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

razgriz_101

We are only rebelling for a 3 system democracy not a totalitarian state :P

Don't worry you have choice over AMD, Intel, and Nvidia

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

razgriz_101

We are only rebelling for a 3 system democracy not a totalitarian state :P

Never! The PC theocracy shall rule forever!

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]Don't mind me Just playing Some Soul Calibur 2 on PC in 1200P.LegatoSkyheart

That's very lame man.

1200p?

Just compare that to my Soul Calibur 2 in 480p.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I'm actually going to start with the ending of your post, because it really explains everything you said before it. Yes, I do like playing games, regardless of those things. I enjoyed the games I've played at 720p. I've enjoyed the ones I've played at 3x1080p too, but if that doesn't work, I'm still going to have fun playing at 720p. I've enjoyed the games I've played on a gamepad, my control scheme of choice, and I've enjoyed playing games without mods. I've enjoyed the games I've played online where I've been up against a selection of players of equivalent skill, and I don't enjoy looking through a server browser for such a game when the computer could be finding one for me. Nor does matchmaking imply giving up dedicated servers; Battlefield 3 on consoles has both (and even a server browser if that's your choice). I've certainly had games not work right out of the box, most recently Rage that ran at a whopping 2fps on my machine. I picked it up on PS3 and was able to play right through the game without a hitch. Yes, things do still go wrong (and on every platform, even consoles!) but my experiences have been far more trouble-free on consoles. So, here we have the crux of the issue. I actually enjoy console gaming, moreso than PC gaming. I've listed off my reasons why, and asked you to provide a counter-argument. Your inability (or unwillingness) to comprehend that someone would hold a preference contrary to your own is not an excuse for not doing so. It's fine; I have no problem with you or anyone else enjoying the advantages of PC gaming or preferring it over consoles. I'm just amused that all your bluster has amounted to absolutely nothing of substance.lowe0

Do you release that bf3 on pc have also the option for matchmaking? but the thing is that dedicated servers provide more freedom because you decide on which , map, gameMod, player count, mapRoteison etc you want to play and also you can have you favorite server.

Every game works out of the box, rage on my pc play with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, on the other hand you play rage on your ps3 with 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc pretty pathetic if you ask me.

judging from your arguments you are hardcore console gamer that refuse to accept that PC is the superior system. So go back and play with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, no dedicated servers, no freedom etc

As you can see i counter all your argument in my previous posts, quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles(the only difference is that on console you get the crappy version of the game)

The sooner you realize the pc is the superior platform to play games the better.

@ MK professor

its no more superior than consoles.It might be to you but when it comes down to pros and cons it has it issues aswell.Your just one of those kids so wound up in hardware and still of the keyboard and mouse ma lyfe lot bit like those straight edge guys at hardcore gigs who think they are superior but really are no better they just choose to live diffrently.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Do you release that bf3 on pc have also the option for matchmaking? but the thing is that dedicated servers provide more freedom because you decide on which , map, gameMod, player count, mapRoteison etc you want to play and also you can have you favorite server.

Every game works out of the box, rage on my pc play with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, on the other hand you play rage on your ps3 with 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc pretty pathetic if you ask me.

judging from your arguments you are hardcore console gamer that refuse to accept that PC is the superior system. So go back and play with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, no dedicated servers, no freedom etc

MK-Professor

As you can see i counter all your argument in my previous posts, quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles(the only difference is that on console you get the crappy version of the game)

The sooner you realize the pc is the superior platform to play games the better.

even if pc is awesome for gaming i still need a console because there too many genre lacking on pc . and my friends are xbox live fanboy.

legol1

Yes PC is superior to consoles in everyway, it crushes consoles in every possible aspect except games

Thats right PC doesn't have games for my favorite genres, they are all console exclusives

I already do, if I can buy a gaming PC, trust me, I would. But I get what I can get, with the money I have.

I do not have to compensate for my failures in everything else. That is why I am fine playing consoles. I have had a very good life without the need for a PC, and when I have sex I do not have to press Enter for orgasm.

WarTornRuston

[QUOTE="metaknight36"]

because console gamers get laid?

DragonfireXZ95

--- PC gamer with a daughter. There goes your theory right out the window.

Do you have a girlfriend right now?

[QUOTE="metaknight36"]

because console gamers get laid?

DragonfireXZ95

--- PC gamer with a daughter. There goes your theory right out the window.

Do you have a girlfriend right now?

The Peasants seem to be combining forces in a rebellion against the PC at the moment. Rather then go system v system its now all systems versus PC. The fact that PC still wins in almost every way must be heart breaking for these revolting peasants.

tenaka2

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

Snyper007-2

How can console "peasants" be defeated when no matter what you say, they continue to have very little (or no) interest in gaming on PC. You may as well be arguing the superiority of football to people who like Cricket and then pointing to player salaries or ratings as some sort of proof the game is superior.

It is all still just preference and opinion. Unless you are able to change others, or make them CARE and feel like they are missing out, the only one defeated is PC gamers and their arguements that nobody really listens to.

[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

ZIMdoom

How can console "peasants" be defeated when no matter what you say, they continue to have very little (or no) interest in gaming on PC. You may as well be arguing the superiority of football to people who like Cricket and then pointing to player salaries or ratings as some sort of proof the game is superior.

It is all still just preference and opinion. Unless you are able to change others, or make them CARE and feel like they are missing out, the only one defeated is PC gamers and their arguements that nobody really listens to.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

godzillavskong

How can console "peasants" be defeated when no matter what you say, they continue to have very little (or no) interest in gaming on PC. You may as well be arguing the superiority of football to people who like Cricket and then pointing to player salaries or ratings as some sort of proof the game is superior.

It is all still just preference and opinion. Unless you are able to change others, or make them CARE and feel like they are missing out, the only one defeated is PC gamers and their arguements that nobody really listens to.

Yep. Gaming is gaming, no matter what platform.It's like someone having a Corvette(PC) and someone else having a Nissan Maxima(consoles). Yeah the Corvette will win in a race, but they both serve the same purpose, getting you from place to place.godzillavskong

And taking that even one step further, no matter what the Corvette has going for it, there will always be someone who says, "I don't like the colour" or "I'm not paying that much for a car" or "it doesn't have the features I like" or "it's too small" or "it's just not practical for my needs", etc.

Speaking for myself, I often argue against the PC game fans because I am a longtime console gamer. I've gamed on PC in the past and through various points in my life, but it hasn't held my interest. For me, the maintenance and cost needs - the amount of things I need to know or do myself - is just too much effort compared to consoles. Sure, I still love and bought the Portal games, and Starcraft 2. They are awesome games, but two games aren't enough for me to jump to PC. And the demands of really getting into and playing SC2 online to get as good as I would LOVE to be just doesn't fit my lifestyle at the moment. I just don't have the time to sink into the game.

No matter how amazing some of the PC games are, the PC itself just doesn't fit with my mood, gaming philosophy, lifestyle, free time availability, etc.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] It's all fine and good that you think it's pathetic, as it doesn't really affect my enjoyment, but you still haven't countered my argument. All of your points thus far can be summarized as "you shouldn't like that, because I think this is better." That's great for you, but it doesn't get me what I'm looking for when I sit down to play. And no, BF3 on PC doesn't have skills based match making. It has a quick join button, which just joins the first server available without regard for skill. Hardly what I want.lowe0

As you can see i counter all your argument in my previous posts, quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles(the only difference is that on console you get the crappy version of the game)

The sooner you realize the pc is the superior platform to play games the better.

quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles if you think otherwise, prove it.

Your argument ("Rage run with 2fps for me") isn't even really an argument; you see i can do the same...

but the fact is that i play Rage on pc with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, and you play rage with ps3 like that 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc. In all the years that I play games I have never found a game that is not working or doesn't play well etc. This thinks happen to people with problematic pc's, people that don't know how to you the pc, etc

your next argument, you need to understand that k/m is the superior control scheme, and also every multiplat support controller.

your last argument. What exactly is this think, that other platforms do and pc doesn't? I am very curious to know because the pc is the platform that dose everything consoles dose but 10X times better, and also a lot of other things.

@ MK professor

its no more superior than consoles.It might be to you but when it comes down to pros and cons it has it issues aswell.Your just one of those kids so wound up in hardware and still of the keyboard and mouse ma lyfe lot bit like those straight edge guys at hardcore gigs who think they are superior but really are no better they just choose to live diffrently.

razgriz_101

You need to understand that playing a game like that:

PC - 1920x1200, 4-8xAA, 60fps, high settings, k/b(also opion to use controller), mods, dedicated servers, etc

is 10X times better(and more fun) than:

Consoles - 1280x720, 0-2xAA, 25-30fps, low-medium settings, controller etc

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

As you can see i counter all your argument in my previous posts, quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles(the only difference is that on console you get the crappy version of the game)

The sooner you realize the pc is the superior platform to play games the better.

MK-Professor

quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles if you think otherwise, prove it.

Your argument ("Rage run with 2fps for me") isn't even really an argument; you see i can do the same...

but the fact is that i play Rage on pc with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, and you play rage with ps3 like that 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc. In all the years that I play games I have never found a game that is not working or doesn't play well etc. This thinks happen to people with problematic pc's, people that don't know how to you the pc, etc

your next argument, you need to understand that k/m is the superior control scheme, and also every multiplat support controller.

your last argument. What exactly is this think, that other platforms do and pc doesn't? I am very curious to know because the pc is the platform that dose everything consoles dose but 10X times better, and also a lot of other things.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]

It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:

godzillavskong

How can console "peasants" be defeated when no matter what you say, they continue to have very little (or no) interest in gaming on PC. You may as well be arguing the superiority of football to people who like Cricket and then pointing to player salaries or ratings as some sort of proof the game is superior.

It is all still just preference and opinion. Unless you are able to change others, or make them CARE and feel like they are missing out, the only one defeated is PC gamers and their arguements that nobody really listens to.

This is systemwars, and that is completely off-topic and irrelevant. This specific forum is meant to compare those kind of things.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Nope; the skill level is display-only on PC. It's only used on consoles. And since it's not displayed until you drill down to individual Battlelog pages, it's extremely cumbersome to assess the overall skill level of a server before joining. Quick Join is more akin to Call of Duty's matchmaking, which is execrable. Your next argument ("Rage worked fine for me") isn't even really an argument; it's a barely relevant statement of fact. Whether it works on your system has surprisingly little impact on whether it works on mine. It's not the only random issue out there, either; I tried to play The Run last night, to find out that only two of my three screens would work with it. (BF3 works fine in Surround, so it's not the hardware.) You can scream about how you never have problems until you're blue in the face, but in my years upon years of experience with PCs, things go wrong, much more often than with consoles. After a long day at work fixing software issues, the last thing I want to do is come home and fix software issues. Going back a post, your next argument ("if a gamepad isn't supported, just use a mouse and keyboard") isn't much better. If I wanted to use a mouse and keyboard, wouldn't I have just done so? Look, it's fine that you think the PC is best. But the very nature of the platform that draws PC gamers to it, its openness and do-it-yourself mentality, preclude the features I want from being offered on it, regardless of the fact that they could be done if there was a business case. It's simply not the best platform for me, regardless of whether it's best for you. It's not because I lack the money. It's not because I lack the experience. It's because it doesn't do what I want, the way I want it to, and other platforms do. Side note, while the topic is Battlelog: does anyone know if Battlelog has a "vanilla" or "pure server" option? I can't find one in the filters. I just want to filter down to the defaults - no high ticket servers, no altered settings, no maps taken out of the rotation, no nothing.lowe0

quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles if you think otherwise, prove it.

Your argument ("Rage run with 2fps for me") isn't even really an argument; you see i can do the same...

but the fact is that i play Rage on pc with 60fpsmaxsettings and 1920x1200, and you play rage with ps3 like that 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc. In all the years that I play games I have never found a game that is not working or doesn't play well etc. This thinks happen to people with problematic pc's, people that don't know how to you the pc, etc

your next argument, you need to understand that k/m is the superior control scheme, and also every multiplat support controller.

your last argument. What exactly is this think, that other platforms do and pc doesn't? I am very curious to know because the pc is the platform that dose everything consoles dose but 10X times better, and also a lot of other things.

show me a link or something about the skill level.

skills based match making is exactly the same in both. Every multiplat and some exclusives have native gamepad support. Steam is not mandatory in 100% of titles but that dosent change the fact that you can add non-steam games on steam and use the in-game UI overlay to voice chat, text, etc

The platform that are you stick right now is giving you nothing more than PC except the inferior multiplats and not much freedom.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

quick join button on bf3 pc does the same thing like in consoles if you think otherwise, prove it.

Your argument ("Rage run with 2fps for me") isn't even really an argument; you see i can do the same...

but the fact is that i play Rage on pc with 60fpsmaxsettings and 1920x1200, and you play rage with ps3 like that 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc. In all the years that I play games I have never found a game that is not working or doesn't play well etc. This thinks happen to people with problematic pc's, people that don't know how to you the pc, etc

your next argument, you need to understand that k/m is the superior control scheme, and also every multiplat support controller.

your last argument. What exactly is this think, that other platforms do and pc doesn't? I am very curious to know because the pc is the platform that dose everything consoles dose but 10X times better, and also a lot of other things.

MK-Professor

show me a link or something about the skill level.

skills based match making is exactly the same in both. Every multiplat and some exclusives have native gamepad support. Steam is not mandatory in 100% of titles but that dosent change the fact that you can add non-steam games on steam and use the in-game UI overlay to voice chat, text, etc

The platform that are you stick right now is giving you nothing more than PC except the inferior multiplats and not much freedom.

Console is a consistent experience.

It's consistently good day after day.

PC is sometimes great, sometimes sucky.

And you spend more time tweaking it than playing.

Console is a consistent experience.

It's consistently good day after day.

PC is sometimes great, sometimes sucky.

And you spend more time tweaking it than playing.

ZombieKiller7

]Console is a consistent experience.It's consistently good day after day.PC is sometimes great, sometimes sucky.And you spend more time tweaking it than playing.ZombieKiller7

Console is a consistent experience.

It's consistently good day after day.

PC is sometimes great, sometimes sucky.

And you spend more time tweaking it than playing.

ZombieKiller7

Console is a consistent experience.

It's consistently good day after day.

PC is sometimes great, sometimes sucky.

And you spend more time tweaking it than playing.

ZombieKiller7

Admit defeat? Wow that's really pathetic tbh. I feel bad for anyone who thinks PC gaming makes then superior at anything

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

How can console "peasants" be defeated when no matter what you say, they continue to have very little (or no) interest in gaming on PC. You may as well be arguing the superiority of football to people who like Cricket and then pointing to player salaries or ratings as some sort of proof the game is superior.

It is all still just preference and opinion. Unless you are able to change others, or make them CARE and feel like they are missing out, the only one defeated is PC gamers and their arguements that nobody really listens to.

Jankarcop

This is systemwars, and that is completely off-topic and irrelevant. This specific forum is meant to compare those kind of things.

Admit defeat? Wow that's really pathetic tbh. I feel bad for anyone who thinks PC gaming makes then superior at anything

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Admit defeat? Wow that's really pathetic tbh. I feel bad for anyone who thinks PC gaming makes then superior at anything

Snyper007-2

frankly, you got over 400 posts. I consider that effective trolling :P

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Admit defeat? Wow that's really pathetic tbh. I feel bad for anyone who thinks PC gaming makes then superior at anything

Snyper007-2

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The FAQ on the Battlelog forums talks about skill level and its use on consoles vs being superfluous on PC. As for the features I need, I already told you: skills based match making and 100% native gamepad support. I also demand a unified identity manager with integrated voice chat, but Steam does this well enough (except that, again, it's not mandatory in 100% of titles). Those features are possible on PCs from a coding standpoint, but the PC market doesn't really want that level of centralized control that would be required to force implementation of those features platform-wide. That's fine, but I'm going to stick to the platforms where I can get what I want.lowe0

show me a link or something about the skill level.

skills based match making is exactly the same in both. Every multiplat and some exclusives have native gamepad support. Steam is not mandatory in 100% of titles but that dosent change the fact that you can add non-steam games on steam and use the in-game UI overlay to voice chat, text, etc

The platform that are you stick right now is giving you nothing more than PC except the inferior multiplats and not much freedom.

no, your main point doesn't stands at all. Also one click on the icon of the game(and no need to insert a DVD) is "one-button ease of use".

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