Why don't console peasants admit defeat to their PC Gaming Overlords?

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#351 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

The only PC exclusives left that even PC gamers care to play are blizzard games.

Arach666

Explained by great sales in other franchises, right?

Y'know, Stalker, Crysis, The Witcher, Half-Life, The Sims, etc, etc.

Even freaking Minecraft sold better than most console exclusives. :P

minecraft is a multiplat, coming to console.

Avatar image for Arach666
Arach666

23285

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -1

User Lists: 0

#352 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Explained by great sales in other franchises, right?

Y'know, Stalker, Crysis, The Witcher, Half-Life, The Sims, etc, etc.

SauceKing

Even freaking Minecraft sold better than most console exclusives. :P

minecraft is a multiplat, coming to console.

Good for you,it still sold a ton like the ones that lundy mentioned as PC only games.
Avatar image for heeeeeeeeeweeee
heeeeeeeeeweeee

2083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#353 heeeeeeeeeweeee
Member since 2011 • 2083 Posts

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Explained by great sales in other franchises, right?

Y'know, Stalker, Crysis, The Witcher, Half-Life, The Sims, etc, etc.

SauceKing

Even freaking Minecraft sold better than most console exclusives. :P

minecraft is a multiplat, coming to console.

quake 2 multiplayer is never coming online to consoles pc exclusive for 15 years now.

Avatar image for lundy86_4
lundy86_4

61978

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#354 lundy86_4
Member since 2003 • 61978 Posts

Even freaking Minecraft sold better than most console exclusives. :PArach666

Oh snap! I forgot about Minecraft :P

Dont know what y'know is (ironic yes) Crysis 1 & 2 are on console, the witcher 2 is coming to console... half life 2 is on console, most of the sims games are on console. Those arent PC exclusives.

SauceKing

"You know". I'm talking about Crysis and Crysis: Warhead before Crysis was released on consoles (in fact, I don't believe any sales numbers have been releasesd since).

The Witcher 2 is being released on consoles, yes. I don't see how that refutes that it sold well with no advertising on the PC.

I never said they were exclusives, but they were exclusive at one time or another, and sold remarkably well.

Seriously, exclusivity had nothing to do with the argument :?

Avatar image for heeeeeeeeeweeee
heeeeeeeeeweeee

2083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#355 heeeeeeeeeweeee
Member since 2011 • 2083 Posts

mindcraft casual

quake 2 non casual

Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#356 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Even freaking Minecraft sold better than most console exclusives. :Pheeeeeeeeeweeee

minecraft is a multiplat, coming to console.

quake 2 multiplayer is never coming online to consoles pc exclusive for 15 years now.

who the hell playes quake 2 multiplayer? people play quake live multiplayer, which is alive and kicking on console as quake arena arcade.

EDIT: by alive and kicking i mean available, the online community is actually dead. :P

Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#357 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Dont know what y'know is (ironic yes) Crysis 1 & 2 are on console, the witcher 2 is coming to console... half life 2 is on console, most of the sims games are on console. Those arent PC exclusives.

lundy86_4

"You know". I'm talking about Crysis and Crysis: Warhead before Crysis was released on consoles (in fact, I don't believe any sales numbers have been releasesd since).

The Witcher 2 is being released on consoles, yes. I don't see how that refutes that it sold well with no advertising on the PC.

I never said they were exclusives, but they were exclusive at one time or another, and sold remarkably well.

Seriously, exclusivity had nothing to do with the argument :?

you seem to be making a sales argument for PC games, which admittedly if the thread went in that direction i was unaware.

My post was responding to the sentiment of the TC about "console peasants" admitting defeat to their "PC overlords" because PC exclusives were just mind blowing... i didnt read all the pages.

PC still has quality exclusives and all, i was just commenting on the fact that its not as mismatched as the whole peasant/overlord narrative would suggest.

Avatar image for lundy86_4
lundy86_4

61978

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#358 lundy86_4
Member since 2003 • 61978 Posts

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Dont know what y'know is (ironic yes) Crysis 1 & 2 are on console, the witcher 2 is coming to console... half life 2 is on console, most of the sims games are on console. Those arent PC exclusives.

SauceKing

"You know". I'm talking about Crysis and Crysis: Warhead before Crysis was released on consoles (in fact, I don't believe any sales numbers have been releasesd since).

The Witcher 2 is being released on consoles, yes. I don't see how that refutes that it sold well with no advertising on the PC.

I never said they were exclusives, but they were exclusive at one time or another, and sold remarkably well.

Seriously, exclusivity had nothing to do with the argument :?

you seem to be making a sales argument for PC games, which admittedly if the thread went in that direction i was unaware.

My post was responding to the sentiment of the TC about "console peasants" admitting defeat to their "PC overlords" because PC exclusives were just mind blowing... i didnt read all the pages.

PC still has quality exclusives and all, i was just commenting on the fact that its not as mismatched as the whole peasant/overlord narrative would suggest.

You simply indicated sales numbers in your response, tjhat's why I brought them up.

I'll be honest with you... Pay no mind to the TC. He's a fakeboy putting forth a fake argument.

I honestly thought you were taking a much more "arrogant pr*ck" approach, so I apologize. If you were reacting to the TC, then go right ahead. This thread was simply flamebait to begin with :P
Avatar image for ZombieKiller7
ZombieKiller7

6463

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#359 ZombieKiller7
Member since 2011 • 6463 Posts

1m = "great sales" on PC

"bu bu but it had no advertising"

Yeah, none of them do, that's kinda why it's dead.

Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#360 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

"You know". I'm talking about Crysis and Crysis: Warhead before Crysis was released on consoles (in fact, I don't believe any sales numbers have been releasesd since).

The Witcher 2 is being released on consoles, yes. I don't see how that refutes that it sold well with no advertising on the PC.

I never said they were exclusives, but they were exclusive at one time or another, and sold remarkably well.

Seriously, exclusivity had nothing to do with the argument :?

lundy86_4

you seem to be making a sales argument for PC games, which admittedly if the thread went in that direction i was unaware.

My post was responding to the sentiment of the TC about "console peasants" admitting defeat to their "PC overlords" because PC exclusives were just mind blowing... i didnt read all the pages.

PC still has quality exclusives and all, i was just commenting on the fact that its not as mismatched as the whole peasant/overlord narrative would suggest.

You simply indicated sales numbers in your response, tjhat's why I brought them up.

I'll be honest with you... Pay no mind to the TC. He's a fakeboy putting forth a fake argument.

I honestly thought you were taking a much more "arrogant pr*ck" approach, so I apologize. If you were reacting to the TC, then go right ahead. This thread was simply flamebait to begin with :P

ahh makes sense...

only reason i mentioned sales, is because if i didnt i figured i would be thrown a whole slew of small relatively unknown exclusive games like football manager or something or other.. which i personally dont consider on the same level as exclusives like Gears 3, uncharted 3 or starcraft 2.

Avatar image for mitu123
mitu123

155290

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#361 mitu123
Member since 2006 • 155290 Posts

PC underlord gamers rock!

HipHopBeats

I look nothing like that.

Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#362 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

1m = "great sales" on PC

"bu bu but it had no advertising"

Yeah, none of them do, that's kinda why it's dead.

ZombieKiller7

It must be a zombie (since people still game on it)... oh crap, that's your name.

Avatar image for HunterHP
HunterHP

1379

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#363 HunterHP
Member since 2004 • 1379 Posts

When Microsoft launches Windows 8 next generation and unifies console, mobile, and PC gaming, this thread will be irrelevant.

Avatar image for Jankarcop
Jankarcop

11058

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#364 Jankarcop
Member since 2011 • 11058 Posts

Yeah, none of them do, that's kinda why it's dead.

ZombieKiller7

Software and Hardware sales rising every years. Dead.

Gonna assume you just bait and never have something honest/real to say.

Avatar image for sethman410
sethman410

2967

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#365 sethman410
Member since 2008 • 2967 Posts
[QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.
Avatar image for loosingENDS
loosingENDS

11793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#366 loosingENDS
Member since 2011 • 11793 Posts

[QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

sethman410

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

games sell better on consoles, so how is it more popular ?

Also xbox 360 gets both the best Witcher 2 and Dark souls versions, PC does not

Avatar image for DethSkematik
DethSkematik

3900

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 117

User Lists: 0

#367 DethSkematik
Member since 2008 • 3900 Posts

Why would anything you said matter if someone isn't interested in any PC exclusives?

Admit defeat to what? If someone was interested in PC games, they'd get into PC gaming. So no one who is strictly a console gamer by choice is missing out on anything.

Tikeio
That pic is kind of true :lol:. I'm a PC gamer myself, and I find it rather insulting that a lot of PC fanboys always have a stick up their ass when it comes to multi-system discussions :(.
Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#368 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

sethman410

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

and PCs are definitely more popular than consoles, because i have a school laptop, a work laptop, and a personal desktop.... and if they are counted i also have a tablet... so i own 4 PCs.

However, i would highly doubt personal desktop PCs for gaming outnumber any console.

Avatar image for el3m2tigre
el3m2tigre

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#369 el3m2tigre
Member since 2007 • 4232 Posts

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

SauceKing

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

and PCs are definitely more popular than consoles, because i have a school laptop, a work laptop, and a personal desktop.... and if they are counted i also have a tablet... so i own 4 PCs.

However, i would highly doubt personal desktop PCs for gaming outnumber any console.

Quality is subjective :|

Avatar image for DragonfireXZ95
DragonfireXZ95

26712

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#370 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26712 Posts

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Why would anything you said matter if someone isn't interested in any PC exclusives?

Admit defeat to what? If someone was interested in PC games, they'd get into PC gaming. So no one who is strictly a console gamer by choice is missing out on anything.

DethSkematik

That pic is kind of true :lol:. I'm a PC gamer myself, and I find it rather insulting that a lot of PC fanboys always have a stick up their ass when it comes to multi-system discussions :(.

How is that picture true in the slightest?

Avatar image for Arach666
Arach666

23285

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -1

User Lists: 0

#371 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

SauceKing

If by quality we mean review scores,then the PC has a much larger library of quality exclusives than any console this gen. Even if you combine the HD twins.

Look at the spreadsheet,it´s both quality and quantity.

That´s the primary way to measure this,otherwise it´s just opinion.

Avatar image for SauceKing
SauceKing

679

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#372 SauceKing
Member since 2011 • 679 Posts

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

Arach666

If by quality we mean review scores,then the PC has a much larger library of quality exclusives than any console this gen. Even if you combine the HD twins.

Look at the spreadsheet,it´s both quality and quantity.

That´s the primary way to measure this,otherwise it´s just opinion.

spreadsheet is expansions and football managers.

Avatar image for Arach666
Arach666

23285

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: -1

User Lists: 0

#373 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23285 Posts

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

SauceKing

If by quality we mean review scores,then the PC has a much larger library of quality exclusives than any console this gen. Even if you combine the HD twins.

Look at the spreadsheet,it´s both quality and quantity.

That´s the primary way to measure this,otherwise it´s just opinion.

spreadsheet is expansions and football managers.

You should give it a better look.
Avatar image for loosingENDS
loosingENDS

11793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#374 loosingENDS
Member since 2011 • 11793 Posts

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

SauceKing

If by quality we mean review scores,then the PC has a much larger library of quality exclusives than any console this gen. Even if you combine the HD twins.

Look at the spreadsheet,it´s both quality and quantity.

That´s the primary way to measure this,otherwise it´s just opinion.

spreadsheet is expansions and football managers.

Indeed, mostly MMOs and expansions to MMOs and a few strategy games

Or fake exlcuisves like Witcher 2 and Crysis 1 that in real life are on xbox 360

Avatar image for TheShadowLord07
TheShadowLord07

23083

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#375 TheShadowLord07
Member since 2006 • 23083 Posts

i feel like i was sent back to 2010. where some pc gamers were being @$$ holes to console owners.

Avatar image for Am_Confucius
Am_Confucius

3229

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#376 Am_Confucius
Member since 2011 • 3229 Posts

Quesion: Why would I want a PS3 when I have a perfectly good gaming PC?

Answer::To play good games....but since you cant download them for free I guess you will resort into stupid excuses like Uncharted is not a good game. That is all you can do at this point since teenage suicide is out this year.

WarTornRuston

Because there's totally no piracy on consoles.. :roll:

Also, I have 155 Steam-games, so your argument is invalid.

Avatar image for Am_Confucius
Am_Confucius

3229

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#377 Am_Confucius
Member since 2011 • 3229 Posts

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

loosingENDS

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

games sell better on consoles, so how is it more popular ?

Also xbox 360 gets both the best Witcher 2 and Dark souls versions, PC does not

Best Witcher 2-version? On consoles?

Hah-ha-ha.

Avatar image for sandbox3d
sandbox3d

5166

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#378 sandbox3d
Member since 2010 • 5166 Posts

I'm mainly a console guy and I'm willing to admit that the PC is objectively the best platform.

Best graphics? Most options in every aspect? Most games by far? Best deals on games? Mods? Things that we cant discuss here that render nearly every console and arcade cabinet useless at the end of the day? (handhelds as well if you're just gaming at the house).

Yep.

Consoles are my preference because that is were most of my favorite series happen to be, but if I could play all my favorite games on PC I surely wouldn't be wasting my money on a branded box of weak hardware.

Avatar image for loosingENDS
loosingENDS

11793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#379 loosingENDS
Member since 2011 • 11793 Posts

I'm mainly a console guy and I'm willing to admit that the PC is objectively the best platform.

Best graphics? Most options in every aspect? Most games by far? Best deals on games? Mods? Things that we cant discuss here that render nearly every console and arcade cabinet useless at the end of the day? (handhelds as well if you're just gaming at the house).

Yep.

Consoles are my preference because that is were most of my favorite series happen to be, but if I could play all my favorite games on PC I surely wouldn't be wasting my money on a branded box of weak hardware.

sandbox3d

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

Avatar image for el3m2tigre
el3m2tigre

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#380 el3m2tigre
Member since 2007 • 4232 Posts

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm mainly a console guy and I'm willing to admit that the PC is objectively the best platform.

Best graphics? Most options in every aspect? Most games by far? Best deals on games? Mods? Things that we cant discuss here that render nearly every console and arcade cabinet useless at the end of the day? (handhelds as well if you're just gaming at the house).

Yep.

Consoles are my preference because that is were most of my favorite series happen to be, but if I could play all my favorite games on PC I surely wouldn't be wasting my money on a branded box of weak hardware.

loosingENDS

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?

Avatar image for drinkerofjuice
drinkerofjuice

4567

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 20

User Lists: 0

#381 drinkerofjuice
Member since 2007 • 4567 Posts

The controls were fine. Just because you didn't like them doesn't make it a bad port.DragonfireXZ95

The KB+M controls weren't fine. The only plus to using that input was for the shooting, but everything else was extremely clunky compared to a gamepad. You'd have a hard time taking sharp turns with vehicles without slowing down significantly. On foot controls on the keyboard were basically a handicap, as you couldn't make turns as precise as you would on a gamepad. Not to mention that there wasn't even a jog function, so you only had the choice between walking and sprinting.

And hell, the controls weren't the only problem. There's also the wildly inconsistent framerate where some days the game runs fine, while other days it borders on being unplayable. There was also the gameworld not loading as quick as it should, so you would have a lot of objects appearing spontaneously, textures not coming at the proper time, and hell, textures not coming in at all. There were times where literally everything but the objects disappear for a time, as if you entered an abyss.

I played through the PC version of GTA4 a few times, and say that it was not a bad port would be objectively wrong.

Better graphics and a replay editor doesn't mean much when the game itself can be such a hassle to play.

Fortunately GTA4 was such a great game that you were willing to wade through those problems.

Avatar image for loosingENDS
loosingENDS

11793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#382 loosingENDS
Member since 2011 • 11793 Posts

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm mainly a console guy and I'm willing to admit that the PC is objectively the best platform.

Best graphics? Most options in every aspect? Most games by far? Best deals on games? Mods? Things that we cant discuss here that render nearly every console and arcade cabinet useless at the end of the day? (handhelds as well if you're just gaming at the house).

Yep.

Consoles are my preference because that is were most of my favorite series happen to be, but if I could play all my favorite games on PC I surely wouldn't be wasting my money on a branded box of weak hardware.

el3m2tigre

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?

xbox 360 having all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact

Avatar image for sandbox3d
sandbox3d

5166

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#383 sandbox3d
Member since 2010 • 5166 Posts

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I'm mainly a console guy and I'm willing to admit that the PC is objectively the best platform.

Best graphics? Most options in every aspect? Most games by far? Best deals on games? Mods? Things that we cant discuss here that render nearly every console and arcade cabinet useless at the end of the day? (handhelds as well if you're just gaming at the house).

Yep.

Consoles are my preference because that is were most of my favorite series happen to be, but if I could play all my favorite games on PC I surely wouldn't be wasting my money on a branded box of weak hardware.

loosingENDS

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

There is always the aspect of preference of course, but even then you just gave a broken response.

A list of inferior multiplats and mostly mediocre exclusives doesn't help your argument AT ALL.

And lol @ "true analog" :lol::lol::lol:

Lets just ignore the fact that the PC will give you better graphics and better performance with the option of mods and choice of controls. No, no you have "true analog" whatever the **** that means! :lol:

Seriously, do both of us a favor and dont bother responding. Thanks.

Avatar image for sethman410
sethman410

2967

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#384 sethman410
Member since 2008 • 2967 Posts
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

games sell better on consoles, so how is it more popular ?

Also xbox 360 gets both the best Witcher 2 and Dark souls versions, PC does not

games umm sell better on consoles? REALLY?!?! you prolly wanna take a look at DD sales, especially Steam. And 360 gets best version on both of those games? LOL
Avatar image for deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab

17476

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#385 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
Member since 2008 • 17476 Posts

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

loosingENDS

See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?

xbox 360 having all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact

Actually that is a factually wrong opinion.
Avatar image for sethman410
sethman410

2967

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#386 sethman410
Member since 2008 • 2967 Posts
[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="NJGIANTSNY"]

screw pc gaming

they never will be popular like consoles

stack all the console exclusives against all the pc exclusives n consoles put pc gaming to shame

well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.

Which "quality" exclusives....? PC probably has the highest amount of exclusives, but i doubt they are quality.

and PCs are definitely more popular than consoles, because i have a school laptop, a work laptop, and a personal desktop.... and if they are counted i also have a tablet... so i own 4 PCs.

However, i would highly doubt personal desktop PCs for gaming outnumber any console.

well, heres how i know. 90% of the households in the world has at least one computer. Im sure majority of them have at least one game on their PC. And that's ALOT.
Avatar image for el3m2tigre
el3m2tigre

4232

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#387 el3m2tigre
Member since 2007 • 4232 Posts

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?

I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles

loosingENDS

See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?

xbox 360 having all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact

The fact that you think all those games that you listed are good is your opinion :oops:

Avatar image for sethman410
sethman410

2967

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#388 sethman410
Member since 2008 • 2967 Posts
Lets do the math. Let's assume there are 1.5 billion households in the world. 90% of 1.5 billion is 1,350,000,000. So, let's assume at least 40% of them have at least one game on their computer (not facebook games, real games made by game developers). 40% of 1,350,000,000 is 540,000,000. That would be at least 540,000,000 games. Now let's assume 10% of the computers are gaming rigs, which mean they have at least 100 games on it. 10% of 1,350,000,000 is 135,000,000. Multiply that by 100, which would be 13.5 billion. So there are about 13.5 billion computer games on all gaming rigs combined. All consoles combined doesn't even compare.
Avatar image for lowe0
lowe0

13692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#389 lowe0
Member since 2004 • 13692 Posts

[QUOTE="DethSkematik"][QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Why would anything you said matter if someone isn't interested in any PC exclusives?

Admit defeat to what? If someone was interested in PC games, they'd get into PC gaming. So no one who is strictly a console gamer by choice is missing out on anything.

DragonfireXZ95

That pic is kind of true :lol:. I'm a PC gamer myself, and I find it rather insulting that a lot of PC fanboys always have a stick up their ass when it comes to multi-system discussions :(.

How is that picture true in the slightest?

It's no less true than the "peasant/master race" bit that was shamelessly lifted from ZP (start writing your own material, folks), and I don't see you criticizing that....

Avatar image for Sagem28
Sagem28

10498

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#390 Sagem28
Member since 2010 • 10498 Posts

I truly pity people who take hardware so serious. Makes you think it's the only thing they really "have" in life...

Anyway, keep on trucking, SW !

Avatar image for lowe0
lowe0

13692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#391 lowe0
Member since 2004 • 13692 Posts

And lol @ "true analog" :lol::lol::lol:

Lets just ignore the fact that the PC will give you better graphics and better performance with the option of mods and choice of controls. No, no you have "true analog" whatever the **** that means! :lol:

sandbox3d
It's properly mapping the analog sticks back to a range of motion, instead of just raising keypress events when the stick is in a given quadrant. It's the difference between well-thought-out native gamepad support and a janky 3rd-party hack.
Avatar image for Am_Confucius
Am_Confucius

3229

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#392 Am_Confucius
Member since 2011 • 3229 Posts

xbox 360 having the worst version (along with PS3) of all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact

loosingENDS

Fix'd. Also, 360 doesn't have Dungeons of Dreadmor.

Avatar image for topgunmv
topgunmv

10880

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#393 topgunmv
Member since 2003 • 10880 Posts

Why do people continue to feed such obvious baiting?

It isn't even amusing to read anymore.

Avatar image for Flavorysoup
Flavorysoup

593

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#394 Flavorysoup
Member since 2011 • 593 Posts

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="IBeVanquished"]Once pc get some quality games, I will admit defeat. Been waiting for some since my apple IIc I got in 1984. Consoles reign supreme.NoodleFighter

PC doesn't have quality games?

Of course they don't they aren't games that are well known and hyped by everyone, they are cinematic blockbusters, they are not nominated GOTY awards, derp

Ever heard of StarCraft 2? Nobody would name it GOTY because if they did the companies that sponsor them would be pissed, but it won a **** ton of readers choice and PC GOTY. You should play it, great game.

Avatar image for Flavorysoup
Flavorysoup

593

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#395 Flavorysoup
Member since 2011 • 593 Posts

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

The controls were fine. Just because you didn't like them doesn't make it a bad port.drinkerofjuice

The KB+M controls weren't fine. The only plus to using that input was for the shooting, but everything else was extremely clunky compared to a gamepad. You'd have a hard time taking sharp turns with vehicles without slowing down significantly. On foot controls on the keyboard were basically a handicap, as you couldn't make turns as precise as you would on a gamepad. Not to mention that there wasn't even a jog function, so you only had the choice between walking and sprinting.

And hell, the controls weren't the only problem. There's also the wildly inconsistent framerate where some days the game runs fine, while other days it borders on being unplayable. There was also the gameworld not loading as quick as it should, so you would have a lot of objects appearing spontaneously, textures not coming at the proper time, and hell, textures not coming in at all. There were times where literally everything but the objects disappear for a time, as if you entered an abyss.

I played through the PC version of GTA4 a few times, and say that it was not a bad port would be objectively wrong.

Better graphics and a replay editor doesn't mean much when the game itself can be such a hassle to play.

Fortunately GTA4 was such a great game that you were willing to wade through those problems.

In what universe is the gamepad more precise than kb/m?

Avatar image for drinkerofjuice
drinkerofjuice

4567

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 20

User Lists: 0

#396 drinkerofjuice
Member since 2007 • 4567 Posts

In what universe is the gamepad more precise than kb/m?

Flavorysoup

The shooting is the only aspect more precise on KB+M. The on foot and vehicle controls in GTA4 are strictly based on the keyboard. Because of this, it's very clunky.

Avatar image for MK-Professor
MK-Professor

4218

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#397 MK-Professor
Member since 2009 • 4218 Posts

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

As I expected, no reasonable argument against PC gameing.

every multiplat have native gamepad support, and also you have the superior control scheme K/M

what do you mean "skills based matchmaking" are you trying to argue against dedicate server LOL or you are saying that p2p on consoles have better matchmaking than p2p on pc, if that is the case then you are wrong.

every game works out of the box, and you don't need to spread lies just because you are a hardcore console fanboy.

"I'm more likely to get that on a console" so you are saying that you like playing with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, etc?

lowe0

I'm actually going to start with the ending of your post, because it really explains everything you said before it. Yes, I do like playing games, regardless of those things. I enjoyed the games I've played at 720p. I've enjoyed the ones I've played at 3x1080p too, but if that doesn't work, I'm still going to have fun playing at 720p. I've enjoyed the games I've played on a gamepad, my control scheme of choice, and I've enjoyed playing games without mods. I've enjoyed the games I've played online where I've been up against a selection of players of equivalent skill, and I don't enjoy looking through a server browser for such a game when the computer could be finding one for me. Nor does matchmaking imply giving up dedicated servers; Battlefield 3 on consoles has both (and even a server browser if that's your choice). I've certainly had games not work right out of the box, most recently Rage that ran at a whopping 2fps on my machine. I picked it up on PS3 and was able to play right through the game without a hitch. Yes, things do still go wrong (and on every platform, even consoles!) but my experiences have been far more trouble-free on consoles. So, here we have the crux of the issue. I actually enjoy console gaming, moreso than PC gaming. I've listed off my reasons why, and asked you to provide a counter-argument. Your inability (or unwillingness) to comprehend that someone would hold a preference contrary to your own is not an excuse for not doing so. It's fine; I have no problem with you or anyone else enjoying the advantages of PC gaming or preferring it over consoles. I'm just amused that all your bluster has amounted to absolutely nothing of substance.

Do you release that bf3 on pc have also the option for matchmaking? but the thing is that dedicated servers provide more freedom because you decide on which , map, gameMod, player count, mapRoteison etc you want to play and also you can have you favorite server.

Every game works out of the box, rage on my pc play with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, on the other hand you play rage on your ps3 with 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc pretty pathetic if you ask me.

judging from your arguments you are hardcore console gamer that refuse to accept that PC is the superior system. So go back and play with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, no dedicated servers, no freedom etc

Avatar image for rasengan2552
rasengan2552

5071

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#398 rasengan2552
Member since 2009 • 5071 Posts
[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

And lol @ "true analog" :lol::lol::lol:

Lets just ignore the fact that the PC will give you better graphics and better performance with the option of mods and choice of controls. No, no you have "true analog" whatever the **** that means! :lol:

lowe0
It's properly mapping the analog sticks back to a range of motion, instead of just raising keypress events when the stick is in a given quadrant. It's the difference between well-thought-out native gamepad support and a janky 3rd-party hack.

this is strawman stuff ... when the console developers are mapping controls they do the exact same thing, some console games still end up with unresponsive and clunky controls even though they (supposedly) have "true analog".
Avatar image for 04dcarraher
04dcarraher

23857

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#399 04dcarraher
Member since 2004 • 23857 Posts

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?

sandbox3d

xbox 360 having all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact

Actually that is a factually wrong opinion.

:lol: like 99% of what he posts....
Avatar image for elessarGObonzo
elessarGObonzo

2678

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 140

User Lists: 0

#400 elessarGObonzo
Member since 2008 • 2678 Posts

Less stable than consoles which have games specifically optimized for its hardware and OS. No need to modify .ini files, install older drivers for old games,, or anything. You get a stable performance no matter what.DarthBilf
i don't have to tweak .ini files for anything just do it for even better graphics and gameplay. to anyone who knows how to research online and/or enjoys customizing their own software these editing features are a plus, no a con. and with Windows 7 you rarely have to install any old drivers to play an old game, actually the only time i've ever had to was playing Bastion and that's not old. and there are many, many games i've tried on 360 and PS3 that have tons of problems.

the stability issue you can't compare because both platforms suffer the same types of problems.