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I'm actually going to start with the ending of your post, because it really explains everything you said before it. Yes, I do like playing games, regardless of those things. I enjoyed the games I've played at 720p. I've enjoyed the ones I've played at 3x1080p too, but if that doesn't work, I'm still going to have fun playing at 720p. I've enjoyed the games I've played on a gamepad, my control scheme of choice, and I've enjoyed playing games without mods. I've enjoyed the games I've played online where I've been up against a selection of players of equivalent skill, and I don't enjoy looking through a server browser for such a game when the computer could be finding one for me. Nor does matchmaking imply giving up dedicated servers; Battlefield 3 on consoles has both (and even a server browser if that's your choice). I've certainly had games not work right out of the box, most recently Rage that ran at a whopping 2fps on my machine. I picked it up on PS3 and was able to play right through the game without a hitch. Yes, things do still go wrong (and on every platform, even consoles!) but my experiences have been far more trouble-free on consoles. So, here we have the crux of the issue. I actually enjoy console gaming, moreso than PC gaming. I've listed off my reasons why, and asked you to provide a counter-argument. Your inability (or unwillingness) to comprehend that someone would hold a preference contrary to your own is not an excuse for not doing so. It's fine; I have no problem with you or anyone else enjoying the advantages of PC gaming or preferring it over consoles. I'm just amused that all your bluster has amounted to absolutely nothing of substance.[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]
As I expected, no reasonable argument against PC gameing.
every multiplat have native gamepad support, and also you have the superior control scheme K/M
what do you mean "skills based matchmaking" are you trying to argue against dedicate server LOL or you are saying that p2p on consoles have better matchmaking than p2p on pc, if that is the case then you are wrong.
every game works out of the box, and you don't need to spread lies just because you are a hardcore console fanboy.
"I'm more likely to get that on a console" so you are saying that you like playing with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, etc?
MK-Professor
Do you release that bf3 on pc have also the option for matchmaking? but the thing is that dedicated servers provide more freedom because you decide on which , map, gameMod, player count, mapRoteison etc you want to play and also you can have you favorite server.
Every game works out of the box, rage on my pc play with 60fps maxsettings and 1920x1200, on the other hand you play rage on your ps3 with 640x720(LOL) up to 1280x720, no AA,low-medium settings, controller, smalls FOV, etc pretty pathetic if you ask me.
judging from your arguments you are hardcore console gamer that refuse to accept that PC is the superior system. So go back and play with 1280x720, 30fps, low settings, no control scheme of your choice, no mods, no dedicated servers, no freedom etc
It's all fine and good that you think it's pathetic, as it doesn't really affect my enjoyment, but you still haven't countered my argument. All of your points thus far can be summarized as "you shouldn't like that, because I think this is better." That's great for you, but it doesn't get me what I'm looking for when I sit down to play. And no, BF3 on PC doesn't have skills based match making. It has a quick join button, which just joins the first server available without regard for skill. Hardly what I want.130 / 73 so far. Dont think we need to say more.AzatiS
fanboy boards like this are nothing to go by...
The shooting is the only aspect more precise on KB+M. The on foot and vehicle controls in GTA4 are strictly based on the keyboard. Because of this, it's very clunky.[QUOTE="Flavorysoup"]
In what universe is the gamepad more precise than kb/m?
drinkerofjuice
I'll give that one to you. I don't play GTA IV alot but the thing is, you would hate it a lot more if the mouse controlled the car. Have you ever tried those? It's impossibly annoying, I likethe accuracy of driving with the keyboard but that's just my preference. You win this round. ps (kb/m is more accurate on all things but the gamepad is more smooth. Accuracy is always a bit clunky.)
Then quit begging for the scraps at the console table, you'll get our games on your "system" when we let you, "your highness".It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:
Snyper007-2
PC Gaming :
"Vee are the best. Vee are superior." meanwhile using 360 controller, Kinect, begging for Dark Souls and whining about PC not getting enough marketing on the side of busses.
Face it : you want so much to be console gamers, but just can't admit that the only thing you care about is graphics.
Bad games? No problem as long as the graphics are good.
Worshipping garbage games like Crysis for a decade only for graphics
Next gen when the PS4 and 720 come out, Microsoft and Sony are gonna love you guys.
They will spoon feed you all the hi-rez garbage games you can eat.
At the end of next gen you'll be like "but but PC has better graphics again" and switch back. Why? Because you people have the maturity and attention span of a housecat, all it takes to buy and sell you is glitter sprinkles and a rolled up newspaper.
The rest of us, we'll be doing what we always do, playing for FUN with our friends, without being pretentious about it.
Bye PC peasants, have fun on your dying platform.
[QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]Then quit begging for the scraps at the console table, you'll get our games on your "system" when we let you, "your highness".It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:
fadersdream
How dare you! I'll have you know this kind of insolence shall not go unpunished!
PC Gaming :
"Vee are the best. Vee are superior." meanwhile using 360 controller, Kinect, begging for Dark Souls and whining about PC not getting enough marketing on the side of busses.
Face it : you want so much to be console gamers, but just can't admit that the only thing you care about is graphics.
Bad games? No problem as long as the graphics are good.
Worshipping garbage games like Crysis for a decade only for graphics
Next gen when the PS4 and 720 come out, Microsoft and Sony are gonna love you guys.
They will spoon feed you all the hi-rez garbage games you can eat.
At the end of next gen you'll be like "but but PC has better graphics again" and switch back. Why? Because you people have the maturity and attention span of a housecat, all it takes to buy and sell you is glitter sprinkles and a rolled up newspaper.
The rest of us, we'll be doing what we always do, playing for FUN with our friends, without being pretentious about it.
Bye PC peasants, have fun on your dying platform.
ZombieKiller7
As much as it pains me to say this, the man with the captioned image is correct. Choice of platform says nothing about a person, positive or negative.lowe0
It's sad that it took 21 pages for the truth to finally get here.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
[QUOTE="AzatiS"]130 / 73 so far. Dont think we need to say more.mitu123
fanboy boards like this are nothing to go by...
Not everyone is a fanboy here, I'm certainly not one...either am i, but you have to admit there's a fair abundance of them here. with that being said i think it's safe to assume that this poll means absolutely nothing.
PC Gaming :
"Vee are the best. Vee are superior." meanwhile using 360 controller, Kinect, begging for Dark Souls and whining about PC not getting enough marketing on the side of busses.
Face it : you want so much to be console gamers, but just can't admit that the only thing you care about is graphics.
Bad games? No problem as long as the graphics are good.
Worshipping garbage games like Crysis for a decade only for graphics
Next gen when the PS4 and 720 come out, Microsoft and Sony are gonna love you guys.
They will spoon feed you all the hi-rez garbage games you can eat.
At the end of next gen you'll be like "but but PC has better graphics again" and switch back. Why? Because you people have the maturity and attention span of a housecat, all it takes to buy and sell you is glitter sprinkles and a rolled up newspaper.
The rest of us, we'll be doing what we always do, playing for FUN with our friends, without being pretentious about it.
Bye PC peasants, have fun on your dying platform.
ZombieKiller7
Please don't jude pc gamers from the guy who started this thread. I loved crysis because it was a great game overall. The eye candy graphics was just a plus. I have never wanted a kinect, 360 controller, or dark souls. Motion controls in general for pc are in the wrong place in my opinion. PC games are amazing, not just because of graphics but because of overall better quality in my opinion. Oh, and when the next consoles come out there will be a great time for pc gamers becase games won't be made for oler consoles, just for the next gen models. And all the devs will have to get used to coding an xbox 720 or a ps4.
I play games because I love playing them. If I don't like a game, I don't play it. No matter what the graphics. It's not that we play games for the graphics, we play games because we like them, and amazing graphics improve the experience in some cases.
Really? Did you just call PC a dying platform? Steam sales have increased %100 annually for the past 7 years. The reason console gamers brag about pc gaming dying is because all the sales they show are retail only. Retail pc gaming is dying, DD is the future.
Then quit begging for the scraps at the console table, you'll get our games on your "system" when we let you, "your highness".[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="Snyper007-2"]
It's a pointless battle that console peasants refuse to give up. PC has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined :lol:
el3m2tigre
How dare you! I'll have you know this kind of insolence shall not go unpunished!
Yes it shall. PC is powerless these days. All the elitist superiority arguments aside, PC has no influence anymore. It takes advantage of hardware sooner and at a higher price, but it has no sway on the marketplace and if a PC game is any good it WILL go to the console, while a good console game MAY go to PC. You could so "who cares" but then you would have to delete this post and the comments of everyone who posted in it.even if pc is awesome for gaming i still need a console because there too many genre lacking on pc . and my friends are xbox live fanboy.
legol1
pc has more genres than consoles
i bought ps3/360 for exclusives.
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
AndersK
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
[QUOTE="legol1"]
even if pc is awesome for gaming i still need a console because there too many genre lacking on pc . and my friends are xbox live fanboy.
heeeeeeeeeweeee
pc has more genres than consoles
i bought ps3/360 for exclusives.
Perhaps he meant quality games per genre. Like everyone else means when they say the same thing.[QUOTE="AndersK"]
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
lazerface216
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
I think some consoler's are just insecure about their favorite console not being the best overall. Simple one word explains it: JealousyWhen did this crap start? PC gamers use to fight like men... or nerdy men, now it's all this hiding and pretending you never said anything negative. Everyone here has a pretty good memory, so save it. This backlash against the PC was earned one hundred times over. No Sympathy.I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
AndersK
[QUOTE="AndersK"]
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
lazerface216
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
Exactly my point? All types of people play games these days, on all platforms, its just extremly hilarious that people like to throw around pictures of stereotype fat computer nerds from the mid 90s like thats what people playing on the PC actually look like.
Also, you people are taking system wars too serious. This is not a representative of console and pc gaming communities. In reality, noone gives 2 **** about "the other side". This board has a core of around 4-500 people that just like to argue about stupid **** that dont really matter.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"][QUOTE="AndersK"]
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
04dcarraher
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
No I think some consoler's are just insecure about their favorite console not being the best overall. Simple one word explains it: Jealousykey word being: some. i think most console only gamers couldn't care less about the pc platform. none of my gamer friends do at least. and it's not like we can't afford a gaming pc.
No I think some consoler's are just insecure about their favorite console not being the best overall. Simple one word explains it: Jealousy[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
lazerface216
key word being: some. i think most console only gamers couldn't care less about the pc platform. none of my gamer friends do at least. and it's not like we can't afford a gaming pc.
Exactly. I have tons and tons of friends that play mostly consoles, and none of them give 2 **** about the PC. To them, PC = World of Warcraft, and i have friends where you can switch the roles around, that dont care for consoles at all. To them consoles = Tekken and FIFA/Madden
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
[QUOTE="AndersK"]
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
AndersK
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
Exactly my point? All types of people play games these days, on all platforms, its just extremly hilarious that people like to throw around pictures of stereotype fat computer nerds from the mid 90s like thats what people playing on the PC actually look like.
Also, you people are taking system wars too serious. This is not a representative of console and pc gaming communities. In reality, noone gives 2 **** about "the other side". This board has a core of around 4-500 people that just like to argue about stupid **** that dont really matter.
well you're stating the obvious, this is system wars for a reason. lol there is no reality here, that's what makes it fun.
[QUOTE="Ghost120x"]If pc gamers have so much exclusives to choose from then why are people petitioning for dark souls?Ginosaji
Because it's a good game. It would be a lot cheaper for a PC-only gamer to petition for a port than it would be to buy an entire game console for one game. I already have an Xbox 360 and PS3 and am planning to buy it either way, but I'd still prefer a PC version.
Definitely. I would certainly sign a petition to get Amnesia: Dark Descent on consoles.[QUOTE="Ginosaji"][QUOTE="Ghost120x"]If pc gamers have so much exclusives to choose from then why are people petitioning for dark souls?clone01
Because it's a good game. It would be a lot cheaper for a PC-only gamer to petition for a port than it would be to buy an entire game console for one game. I already have an Xbox 360 and PS3 and am planning to buy it either way, but I'd still prefer a PC version.
Definitely. I would certainly sign a petition to get Amnesia: Dark Descent on consoles.Yea, but it would be a lot harder to get Amnesia on console then Dark Souls. Amnesia was made by a small indie developer. Dark Souls was made by FromSoftware who have been making games from the mid 80's. Though it would be nice to see Amnesia on console, I just don't see it happening unless they get outside support.
[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
How can a system that has no Dark Souls or any JRPGs be objectively better than xbox 360 that has Witcher 2, Lost Odyssey, Fable 1-2-3-JOurney, Tales of Vesperia, Oblivion, Last Remnant, Bastion, FF13, FF13-2, Blue Dragon, Dark Souls, Mads Effect 1-2-3, Half Minute Hero, Clash Of Heroes, Dust Elysian Tale, Fallout 3-Vegas, Risen 1-2, Two Worlds 1-2, Too Human, Divinity 2 etc etc in RPGs ?
I mostly play RPGs and xbox 360 is a billion times better than PC for me and also has true analog controls, making the 360 versions of the PC/360 games the very best by miles
loosingENDS
See what's happening here? Opinions colliding. Magical isn't it?
xbox 360 having all RPGs is not opinion, it is a fact
you're a dumbass[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
[QUOTE="sethman410"] well, im sorry but PC is more popular than all consoles combined. And no, PC has the highest amount of quality exclusives more than all consoles combined since the start of gen. Ooops.Am_Confucius
games sell better on consoles, so how is it more popular ?
Also xbox 360 gets both the best Witcher 2 and Dark souls versions, PC does not
Best Witcher 2-version? On consoles?Hah-ha-ha.
pc gamers still butthurt that 360 gets the witcher 2? or the id crytek and epic like 360 over serving pirates on pc.
If pc gamers have so much exclusives to choose from then why are people petitioning for dark souls?Ghost120x
It's just like Halo. it was supposed to be Mac-only. If I recall correctly, there were some folks who petitioned it for the PC and Bungie relented.
Of course, that was before MS dropped a bomb and said they bought off Bungie and Halo for its XBox.
Edit:
In this case, Namco wants to test the PC waters. Ridge Racer: Unbounded coming to the PC is already proof of that. They want to know if there's a demand for Dark Souls. I don't see anything wrong with wanting that game on the PC. The only bad thing I can see is for those who use the game as ammo in this silly console vs PC threads.
[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
[QUOTE="AndersK"]
I just love how everyone loves throwing pictures of nerds and so on, implying that all PC gamers are dorky nerds. Isnt this 2012?
also, you are spending your time argueing which videogame platform is the best on a gaming website, who are you kidding?
04dcarraher
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
I think some consoler's are just insecure about their favorite console not being the best overall. Simple one word explains it: Jealousy Look at the name of this topic. Who seems insecure to you?I can provide details on why. It will not convince anyone who sits on either side of the fence. Why do PCs have more exclusives. 1) Cost, it is cheaper to develop a game for the PC, why. The technology has been around a lot longer there is more detail information on building games on the PCs and any one can do it if they have a PC with a graphics card in it that is capable of showing the game they want to develop. 2) Time, it takes less time to develop a PC game, because the system specifications have been around for some time, Direct-X is the way to develop it. If Open GL is the way it is being developed them some more lower understanding of the media there. To develop a console you need to pay money to get a dev kit. These already add a substantial cost to the development of the games being developed. The hardware is very specific and therefore it requires different techniques to get the most out of the system. Does the mere fact that there are less exclusives make the console inferior. No. Why, well because the consoles aren't a PC. I have a PC I play games on, they are exclusive to the PC. But I don't enjoy them any more or less than the console games. I have even played versions of the same game on both. I have found the console experience to be more enjoyable than that of the PC. Why, well I have had problems getting a PC game to work, and the older the game the often more hoops you need to jump through to get it working. I can play a console game that is 6 years old on the same console that I had when it came out. It looks the same as it did then. I have tried the same with PC games with mixed results. Pc gaming isn't the elite of gaming, it is just that PC gamers are elitest and believe that anyone not understanding why a PC gaming is superior shouldn't game at all. Well this is my opinion. I am a PC gamer, I am a handheld gamer and a console gamer. I play the game on the device where the experience is the best for me. That includes 1) Graphics - it isn't everything but it is a major deal. Yes my PC games looks better but with the other elements in it, it tends to take a back seat. 2) Audio - I have a great sound systems on both my PC and my consoles. Both THX multi-channel certified and properly aligned to the environment they are in. The best sound tracks I have heard are from the PS3 using DTS, the PC has multi-channel but it isn't the same experience. 3) Controller - This include the keyboard and mouse. To me, the controller is a great way to control games. It is more ergonomic and by far more comfortable. 3) Environment - This is the overall comfort. A nice Highback chair for my PC, a Massive, leather reclier for my consoles. No AC for the PC and AC for the consoles. It is just more comfortable gaming on the consoles. Especially when we hit 40C (104F) in summer.mike_on_mic
The room you keep your PC in isn't air conditioned? Wow that must suck.
I can provide details on why. It will not convince anyone who sits on either side of the fence. Why do PCs have more exclusives. 1) Cost, it is cheaper to develop a game for the PC, why. The technology has been around a lot longer there is more detail information on building games on the PCs and any one can do it if they have a PC with a graphics card in it that is capable of showing the game they want to develop. 2) Time, it takes less time to develop a PC game, because the system specifications have been around for some time, Direct-X is the way to develop it. If Open GL is the way it is being developed them some more lower understanding of the media there. To develop a console you need to pay money to get a dev kit. These already add a substantial cost to the development of the games being developed. The hardware is very specific and therefore it requires different techniques to get the most out of the system. Does the mere fact that there are less exclusives make the console inferior. No. Why, well because the consoles aren't a PC. I have a PC I play games on, they are exclusive to the PC. But I don't enjoy them any more or less than the console games. I have even played versions of the same game on both. I have found the console experience to be more enjoyable than that of the PC. Why, well I have had problems getting a PC game to work, and the older the game the often more hoops you need to jump through to get it working. I can play a console game that is 6 years old on the same console that I had when it came out. It looks the same as it did then. I have tried the same with PC games with mixed results. Pc gaming isn't the elite of gaming, it is just that PC gamers are elitest and believe that anyone not understanding why a PC gaming is superior shouldn't game at all. Well this is my opinion. I am a PC gamer, I am a handheld gamer and a console gamer. I play the game on the device where the experience is the best for me. That includes 1) Graphics - it isn't everything but it is a major deal. Yes my PC games looks better but with the other elements in it, it tends to take a back seat. 2) Audio - I have a great sound systems on both my PC and my consoles. Both THX multi-channel certified and properly aligned to the environment they are in. The best sound tracks I have heard are from the PS3 using DTS, the PC has multi-channel but it isn't the same experience. 3) Controller - This include the keyboard and mouse. To me, the controller is a great way to control games. It is more ergonomic and by far more comfortable. 3) Environment - This is the overall comfort. A nice Highback chair for my PC, a Massive, leather reclier for my consoles. No AC for the PC and AC for the consoles. It is just more comfortable gaming on the consoles. Especially when we hit 40C (104F) in summer.mike_on_micTL;DR
because console gamers get laid?
metaknight36
--- PC gamer with a daughter. There goes your theory right out the window.
Do you have a girlfriend right now?
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]I think some consoler's are just insecure about their favorite console not being the best overall. Simple one word explains it: Jealousy Look at the name of this topic. Who seems insecure to you? He didn't make the thread nor did he name the topic.[QUOTE="lazerface216"]
i just love how everyone loves throwing out pictures of little kids and teenagers and so on, implying that all console gamers are bratty little kids. isn't this 2010?
...it goes both ways buddy.
DarthBilf
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