Why is GTA5 not releasing on PC day 1?

I have learned a lot from Hermits since I became a member of this board. For example that piracy is as big of a problem on consoles as it is on PC. That PC is a bigger platform than all consoles combined. That devs make a lot more money for every copy sold on PC than on consoles. These are all facts. Now there are still things that are mysterious to me, especially in the light of these facts. One such thing is why R* is not releasing GTA5 on PC at the same time as on consoles. Basically they are burning hundreds of millions of dollars. Could someone please explain this to me? 

• Is R* incapable of understanding the industry?
• Do they hate PC for irrational reasons and just want to punish some of their most loyal fans out of spite?
• Do they feel sorry about us console gamers and want to give us early GTA5 access as a kind of donation?

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

PiracyHeirren

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

adamosmaki

Clearly you have not paid attention. The reason GTA sells better on consoles is the terrible ports and the fact that R* treats their best customers as dirt. Seems a stupid thing to do given the amount of money at stake, but I guess R* is prettys stupid and/or hate money.

just how they always do it man. Been like that for over a decade now.razgriz_101

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

adamosmaki

[QUOTE="Heirren"]PiracySushiglutton

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="Heirren"]PiracyHeirren

Piracy
More money on consoles
Avoiding the poor PC chumps waiting out years for a $7,50 steam sale

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="Heirren"]PiracyHeirren

Rockstar needs at least 6 months after the console release to make the worst console port you can imagine - it takes time to code a PC game so bad.

pc gamers are not worthy of such a great game

Ignoring your sarcasm and over all pretty useless attempt at trolling. Piracy is a big problem everywhere, whether or not it's bigger on PC is debatable but considering how easy it is, it's likely worse than on consoles. They do make more money off of DD games sold compared to consoles but we never no the figures on such sales (ie how many actually sold). All in all they probably make more money off of consoles than on PC, different markets after all.soulitane

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Ignoring your sarcasm and over all pretty useless attempt at trolling. Piracy is a big problem everywhere, whether or not it's bigger on PC is debatable but considering how easy it is, it's likely worse than on consoles. They do make more money off of DD games sold compared to consoles but we never no the figures on such sales (ie how many actually sold). All in all they probably make more money off of consoles than on PC, different markets after all.Sushiglutton

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Ignoring your sarcasm and over all pretty useless attempt at trolling. Piracy is a big problem everywhere, whether or not it's bigger on PC is debatable but considering how easy it is, it's likely worse than on consoles. They do make more money off of DD games sold compared to consoles but we never no the figures on such sales (ie how many actually sold). All in all they probably make more money off of consoles than on PC, different markets after all.Sushiglutton

GTAIV wasn't day 1 on PC either. It'll arrive soon enough so don't get your panties in a twist

GTAIV wasn't day 1 on PC either. It'll arrive soon enough so don't get your panties in a twist

The_Gaming_Baby

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

kejigoto

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="soulitane"]Ignoring your sarcasm and over all pretty useless attempt at trolling. Piracy is a big problem everywhere, whether or not it's bigger on PC is debatable but considering how easy it is, it's likely worse than on consoles. They do make more money off of DD games sold compared to consoles but we never no the figures on such sales (ie how many actually sold). All in all they probably make more money off of consoles than on PC, different markets after all.soulitane

Piracy
More money on consoles
Avoiding the poor PC chumps waiting out years for a $7,50 steam sale

DrTrafalgarLaw

it is a joke. They clearly have the money to hire more people to make a PC version

i say pc gamers boycott them when they decide to release sp maybe they get the hint 

Because they never have since GTA 2, it's just how Rockstar develops. They focus on the closed console hardware environments then post release patch it up and port it across. Always how it has been.skrat_01

GTAIV wasn't day 1 on PC either. It'll arrive soon enough so don't get your panties in a twist

The_Gaming_Baby

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

Sushiglutton

Clearly you have not paid attention. The reason GTA sells better on consoles is the terrible ports and the fact that R* treats their best customers as dirt. Seems a stupid thing to do given the amount of money at stake, but I guess R* is prettys stupid and/or hate money.

just how they always do it man. Been like that for over a decade now.razgriz_101

There are other reasons GTA sells better on consoles and blaming pirace ( though its one of the reasons but we dont know the extend of it ) . Reasons include 3rd person action games seems to have a bigger audience and traditionally seem to sell better on consoles likewise most WRPG's seem to sell better on Pc  hence a game like withcer 3 priority will be pc. There are exceptions of course

Also another reason is as you put it bad port. Believe it or not yes that might play a role in future Gta purchases if someone picked Gta on pc on Day 1 only to wait 3-4 months and a couple of patches for the game to get fixed ( though the problems of GTA werent as big as some make them to be but at launch it was rather a mess ) 

it is a joke. They clearly have the money to hire more people to make a PC version

 

i say pc gamers boycott them when they decide to release sp maybe they get the hint 

k2theswiss

PC takes more work and in turn more money and that's while PC games don't sell as well as their console counterparts. More work, more cost, less return....It's really not that hard to see why they don't bother.Ilikemyname420

lol more work. Don't get any more simpler dealing with the cell in ps3

• pay $?000's for devloper consoles
• pay the console makers a licensing fee just be on their system 
• pay X% every game you sell on their console to console makers
• forced to follow console maker rules
• pay fee's to update their games for their customers

Sure there is stuff we don't know about also 

Who cares about pc gamers anymore anyways, since the announcement of the ps4 ive seen that really they're all a bunch of insecure cry babies that belittle anything thats not them so if they dont get GTA then no great loss.

They will of course but they have to wait a while but thats not good enough for these whiners, get over yourselves its always been this way with GTA aslong as you get a version who cares.

R* will go for the biggest market first which in this case is the consoles so deal with it:roll::roll:

More work, more cost, less return....It's really not that hard to see why they don't bother.Ilikemyname420

Who cares about pc gamers anymore anyways, since the announcement of the ps4 ive seen that really they're all a bunch of insecure cry babies that belittle anything thats not them so if they dont get GTA then no great loss.

They will of course but they have to wait a while but thats not good enough for these whiners, get over yourselves its always been this way with GTA aslong as you get a version who cares.

R* will go for the biggest market first which in this case is the consoles so deal with it:roll::roll:

l34052

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

it is a joke. They clearly have the money to hire more people to make a PC version

 

i say pc gamers boycott them when they decide to release sp maybe they get the hint 

Sushiglutton

A: hope console buyers rebuy it on PC for more sells~ which would be sorta stupid as how many people is really going rebuy a game twice? If i bought the game once you can pretty much bet i pirate it. 

B: maybe the entire rockstar studio's is full of console fanboys

Who cares about pc gamers anymore anyways, since the announcement of the ps4 ive seen that really they're all a bunch of insecure cry babies that belittle anything thats not them so if they dont get GTA then no great loss.

They will of course but they have to wait a while but thats not good enough for these whiners, get over yourselves its always been this way with GTA aslong as you get a version who cares.

R* will go for the biggest market first which in this case is the consoles so deal with it:roll::roll:

l34052

Who cares about pc gamers anymore anyways, since the announcement of the ps4 ive seen that really they're all a bunch of insecure cry babies that belittle anything thats not them so if they dont get GTA then no great loss.

They will of course but they have to wait a while but thats not good enough for these whiners, get over yourselves its always been this way with GTA aslong as you get a version who cares.

R* will go for the biggest market first which in this case is the consoles so deal with it:roll::roll:

l34052

Who the f*k is crying about this, man? Every PC gamer i've seen on forums, and around my town is waiting patiently for GTA V because they know it'll release.

The only reason why this gets attention is because some brainless, bored, console fanboys like to diss and take a stab at this situation. I bet you these same fanboys will switch like they have a double personality and completely deny they ever said this, wen GTA V releases on the PC a couple of months down the line.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Because they never have since GTA 2, it's just how Rockstar develops. They focus on the closed console hardware environments then post release patch it up and port it across. Always how it has been.Sushiglutton

GTAIV wasn't day 1 on PC either. It'll arrive soon enough so don't get your panties in a twist

The_Gaming_Baby

I honestly don't know...

Maybe they just prefer consoles. Pfft...

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"]

it is a joke. They clearly have the money to hire more people to make a PC version

 

i say pc gamers boycott them when they decide to release sp maybe they get the hint 

k2theswiss

A: hope console buyers rebuy it on PC for more sells~ which would be sorta stupid as how many people is really going rebuy a game twice? If i bought the game once you can pretty much bet i pirate it. 

B: maybe the entire rockstar studio's is full of console fanboys

 It's ok for a fanboy to think like this. What I don't get is why a huge dev like R* would waste $100M to punish PC gamers because of their poor attitude on online forums.

Sushiglutton

You should ask someone that works there directly then. Disscussions around this subject wont get you anywhere. The most people can do that aren't in the know, is make educated guesses.

[QUOTE="l34052"]

Who cares about pc gamers anymore anyways, since the announcement of the ps4 ive seen that really they're all a bunch of insecure cry babies that belittle anything thats not them so if they dont get GTA then no great loss.

They will of course but they have to wait a while but thats not good enough for these whiners, get over yourselves its always been this way with GTA aslong as you get a version who cares.

R* will go for the biggest market first which in this case is the consoles so deal with it:roll::roll:

Sushiglutton

Fanboy LOL grow up kid. Im sick of listening to PC this, PC that, blah blah blah.....

If your not happy then buy a console, if you dont want to do that then stop whining its not complicated:roll:

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

 It's ok for a fanboy to think like this. What I don't get is why a huge dev like R* would waste $100M to punish PC gamers because of their poor attitude on online forums.

Lucianu

You should ask someone that works there directly then. Disscussions around this subject wont get you anywhere. The most people can do that aren't in the know, is make educated guesses.

It sells more on consoles, which is a reason they do this. But by releasing it first on consoles, people that are interested in the PC version more (like me) could end up getting it on consoles because they can't wait to play it. So it's a bit of a vicious circle really.

I thought Max Payne releasing a few weeks after the console version on PC was a step in the right direction. To bad they don't continue doing this with GTA V. 

Some games sell better on consoles ( GTA series for instance ) others sell better on pc ( portal series for instance ). Shocking i know

Devs will obviously give priority to the platforms that will sell the most. Also Gta never released on pc on Day 1 so hardly this is a surprise

adamosmaki

Except for GTA 1&2. Those came out on PC first.

I have learned a lot from Hermits since I became a member of this board. For example that piracy is as big of a problem on consoles as it is on PC. That PC is a bigger platform than all consoles combined. That devs make a lot more money for every copy sold on PC than on consoles. These are all facts. Now there are still things that are mysterious to me, especially in the light of these facts. One such thing is why R* is not releasing GTA5 on PC at the same time as on consoles. Basically they are burning hundreds of millions of dollars. Could someone please explain this to me? 

• Is R* incapable of understanding the industry?
• Do they hate PC for irrational reasons and just want to punish some of their most loyal fans out of spite?
• Do they feel sorry about us console gamers and want to give us early GTA5 access as a kind of donation?

Sushiglutton

It's just how they do things. There's not some grand conspiracy. They invested all their time, money and resources into making the console versions, because they have a large install base, consisting of millions of guaranteed customers, who would buy a GTA game day one without ever seeing a trailer, or even knowing a new GTA was coming. Developing the PC version right alongside would have cost them more, and they decided it wasn't quite worth it, at that time. Just like they did with all the other 3D GTA games. Once the console versions are finished and released, they'll have a lot of resources freed up, and they'll get into full swing with the porting job. They don't hate anyone. They don't feel sorry for anyone. They're just doing what they do.

People should stop acting like game developers give a shit about what gets argued about in system wars. We make up an utterly insignificant portion of the consumer base in the game industry. If every single member of this site stopped gaming entirely, and never bought a system or game again, no developer or publisher would even notice the drop in sales.

It sells more on consoles, which is a reason they do this. But by releasing it first on consoles, people that are interested in the PC version more (like me) could end up getting it on consoles because they can't wait to play it. So it's a bit of a vicious circle really.

I thought Max Payne releasing a few weeks after the console version on PC was a step in the right direction. To bad they don't continue doing this with GTA V. 

R4gn4r0k

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]

 It's ok for a fanboy to think like this. What I don't get is why a huge dev like R* would waste $100M to punish PC gamers because of their poor attitude on online forums.

Sushiglutton

You should ask someone that works there directly then. Disscussions around this subject wont get you anywhere. The most people can do that aren't in the know, is make educated guesses.