Why is the wii the laughing stock of the gaming industry?

[QUOTE="LiquidSnake1001"]It's a laughing stock because it has dated tech, poor online, a poor and gimmicky controller and a more than lackluster libary compared to ps3/360.Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="LiquidSnake1001"]It's a laughing stock because it has dated tech, poor online, a poor and gimmicky controller and a more than lackluster libary compared to ps3/360.nmaharg

Please Pices SHOW me these improvements in tech. Maybe I'm just blind.nmaharg

It does have improved technical specifications, but it isn't a significant leap from the GameCube.

I'm pretty sure the heads of Microsoft and Sony aren't laughing at the Wii. So far it's absolutely crushed both of them.

I'm pretty sure the heads of Microsoft and Sony aren't laughing at the Wii. So far it's absolutely crushed both of them.

Vari3ty

Neither of them have been crushed. Both Sony and Microsoft are very much in this race and are not going away any time soon. In my opinion, the last major console to be crushed was the Dreamcast.

[QUOTE="Pices"]

Its an improvement from last gen, thats all I gotta say

Sky-

A marginal improvement, no doubt.

The Wii still hasn't created a game that's technically better than top tier games last gen, and several devs have come out and said that the Wii is about as powerful as the original Xbox, even failing behind it in some areas, like EA

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[QUOTE="Pices"]

Its an improvement from last gen, thats all I gotta say

A marginal improvement, no doubt.

The Wii still hasn't created a game that's technically better than top tier games last gen, and several devs have come out and said that the Wii is about as powerful as the original Xbox, even failing behind it in some areas, like EA

[QUOTE="Sky-"]

A marginal improvement, no doubt.

The Wii still hasn't created a game that's technically better than top tier games last gen, and several devs have come out and said that the Wii is about as powerful as the original Xbox, even failing behind it in some areas, like EA

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="LiquidSnake1001"]It's a laughing stock because it has dated tech, poor online, a poor and gimmicky controller and a more than lackluster libary compared to ps3/360.nmaharg

that might be the problem

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"] * Its tech is improved from last gen * The online.....*sigh* If you mean FC, they suck. But I bet your judging the online SOLELY on brawl * Gimmicky and poor controller just like the MOVE. Go look at games like Metroid prime 3 then tell me that the controls are poor * The library is already greatHalf-Way

that might be the problem

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"] Please Pices SHOW me these improvements in tech. Maybe I'm just blind.nmaharg

that might be the problem

i think that's physically impossible :?

Please Pices SHOW me these improvements in tech. Maybe I'm just blind.nmaharg

that might be the problem

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

that might be the problem

Pices

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Then show me.nmaharg

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

i got lots of evidence, but how can you show something to a blind guy? O,o

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Then show me.nmaharg

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] What? You expect us to do a YT video or something? These quotes are from a DEVELOPER who worked on the Wii. Pices

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] What? You expect us to do a YT video or something? These quotes are from a DEVELOPER who worked on the Wii. Half-Way

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

i got lots of evidence, but how can you show something to a blind guy? O,o

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

nmaharg

i got lots of evidence, but how can you show something to a blind guy? O,o

well thank you :oops:

but im serious though, last time i tryed to cure ignorance it took me 5 houers and 43 minutes for nothing

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"]

Yet there is no evidence to backup his claim.

nmaharg

Neither do you have something to back up your claim. Next gen? Its current gen. I already listed some games that look better than last gen.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"] And neither do you. Since he's a developer and you're not, he's the most credible one.Pices

Neither do you have something to back up your claim. Next gen? Its current gen. I already listed some games that look better than last gen.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

i got lots of evidence, but how can you show something to a blind guy? O,o

Half-Way

well thank you :oops:

but im serious though, last time i tryed to cure ignorance it took me 5 houers and 43 minutes for nothing

Niether did I what? Only claim I made was that Wii games don't look next gen. If I am wrong, please point it out.nmaharg

Neither do you have something to back up your claim. Next gen? Its current gen. I already listed some games that look better than last gen.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"]

Neither do you have something to back up your claim. Next gen? Its current gen. I already listed some games that look better than last gen.

Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] What MP3, and SMG? I disagree. I have the the entire Wii library backing up my claim.nmaharg

The Wii is considered to be a laughingstock in some circles due to its relative lack of high-quality games.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"]

Neither do you have something to back up your claim. Next gen? Its current gen. I already listed some games that look better than last gen.

Pices

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[QUOTE="Pices"] * And I disagree with you * LOL, I already explained regarding the graphics program. YOU NEVER READ.Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] What MP3, and SMG? I disagree. I have the the entire Wii library backing up my claim.nmaharg

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] No sir I read it. The Wii is difficult to program for yada yada.

nmaharg

Unfortunately, yes. Thats the truth

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

Half-Way

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"] Then you get the point. Its not the Wii thats the problem. Its that the devs dont create their own graphics engine to make a good looking wii game because its expensive and time consuming.Pices

Unfortunately, yes. Thats the truth

i think it's the amount of money and how hugely successful it is

paired with the severe lack of core-industry big-name graphics extravaganzas

that said it's still a decent console, it's got some fun good games on it, but i think Nintendo really failed to appeal to the market that would buy serious core-industry games

which is part of the reason why imo Sony shouldn't try to appeal to casuals with the PSMOVE because these consoles really have a wall of separation that i can't recall in any previous generation, i mean if core gamers have the most income to spend on just gaming yet they shun the Wii... what's the likelihood that consumers with the least amount of income for gaming (casual wii owners) would buy a PS3? it's sort of like the PSPgo... it just couldn't penetrate the market

so that's where the Wii is sitting atm, i think their big-name titles like Metroid and SMG2 and Zelda will definitely maybe pull some core users in and stimulate the core-industry market on the Wii, but atm it seems like only enthusiasts are supporting those devs and as evidenced by the PS3's first year, enthusiasts aren't really enough for companies to hang their laurels on (unless they happen to be Atlus)

the funny thing anyways was the Wii was supposed to sober up the industry away from just graphics and really push the industry more towards focusing on gameplay... which totally flopped, with most gaming enthusiasts still enamored more by graphics than gameplay

So your evidence based on a complete what if scenario, is somehow more valid than mine, based on what we can actually see?nmaharg

Unfortunately, yes. Thats the truth

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

Half-Way

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"]

Unfortunately, yes. Thats the truth

Pices

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Well sir, youve been owned. Now to see if half-life has anything valid to put in.nmaharg

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Do you really think the Wii has titles that look next gen?nmaharg

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[QUOTE="Pices"] Ah, nothing to refute? Ah ok....moving onPices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Do you really think the Wii has titles that look next gen?nmaharg

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] You can't argue a what if, the fact you are using one as your base of debate shows how little evidence you truly have.

nmaharg

And I list you the same games again. And ofcourse, you'll disagree with me in order to prove a point.

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Pices"] FYI, Next gen graphics = improvement from last gen Not neccessarily ps3/360 qualityPices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Grasping at straws. Define it however you like. Xbox is still just as or even more powerful than a Wii. Based solely on the games I've seen both produce. nmaharg

I'm sorry, but I can't see how you think the Wii is somehow next gen. When one of its best looking games is very comparabe to a game that came out 6 years ago.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how you think the Wii is somehow next gen. When one of its best looking games is very comparabe to a game that came out 6 years ago.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

okey guyes, let me explain some basics.

first. a generation isnt based on power, its a time period. and this proves it. here.

second. there is more to graphics then just the technical side, i still havent seen any game that looks better then Okami, and thats a last gen ps2 game.

not to mention muramasa the demon blade on the wii, which also looks stunning. third. disagreeing on SMG not been more advanced then SMS is like disagreeing that crysis dosent have the most impressive technical graphics currently.

nmaharg

i honestly do, especialy after seen white knight cronicles, vampire rain and other really lackbuster looking games, which is a shame considering the hardware they were on was far more powerfull then the wii.

for me any game that dosent concentrate on art style feels really bland, the conduit on the wii is a perfect example of how much art style matters in games. and if you have the right visual design you dont really need that much power. all games from last gen like super mario sunshine or ninja gaiden all had their flaws, either the environments, the textures or something else, frame rate was also a big problem. and none of them were overall as good as SMG,

but the thing is, i cant convince you that your wrong, just like you cant convice me that Okami dosent look fantastic, thats the main point of art. its you who chooses to like it or not. there is no one eals who can choose for you. but on the technical side, like framerate, realism, textures ect. there is really not much room left for opinions. and SMG really dose looks better then all last gen games, same goes for Metroid Prime Corruption and Monster hunter tri.

Was that really MP3? That looked like the original Metroid Prime to me. I haven't played much MP3(I just could not get myself to enjoy it) but I seem to remember the graphics looking better than that screenshot.

Was that really MP3? That looked like the original Metroid Prime to me. I haven't played much MP3(I just could not get myself to enjoy it) but I seem to remember the graphics looking better than that screenshot.

metswonin69