Why is the wii the laughing stock of the gaming industry?

[QUOTE="Pices"] Mario Galaxy already destroys any last gen game. I already posted something saying that the Wii is stronger than the Xbox by 3 times.opex07

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[QUOTE="Pices"] Mario Galaxy already destroys any last gen game. I already posted something saying that the Wii is stronger than the Xbox by 3 times.opex07

[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Pices"] Mario Galaxy already destroys any last gen game. I already posted something saying that the Wii is stronger than the Xbox by 3 times.Pices

[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Pices"] Mario Galaxy already destroys any last gen game. I already posted something saying that the Wii is stronger than the Xbox by 3 times.Half-Way

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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="opex07"] Mario Galaxy destroys very little, it looks great artistically but doesn't have much graphically. SMG has very simple character models, very little going on on-screen, simple worlds, little texture work, etc..opex07

[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Pices"] Its still an incredible wii game, i dont wanna hear excuses.Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="opex07"] Its not an excuse you still haven't explained to me why you feel this game is better than anything else (if you are the person I believe I have talked to before about this several times). There are better Wii games to use as an example of what the Wii is capable of, but those games still do not beat other top tier games last gen. opex07

You are confusing art styIe with technical graphics.Willy105

graphics when talking about games usually refer to the technical side of things, which Im sure you will agree with looking at this thread, which you mention almost nothing other than the technical things about games except for color (even though every game has to have some form of color).

Art $tyle is purely subjective and cannot be argued one way or another objectively.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="opex07"] Its not an excuse you still haven't explained to me why you feel this game is better than anything else (if you are the person I believe I have talked to before about this several times). There are better Wii games to use as an example of what the Wii is capable of, but those games still do not beat other top tier games last gen. opex07

[QUOTE="Pices"] Blew me away because it looked incredibleopex07

[QUOTE="Pices"] Blew me away because it looked incredibleopex07

better lighning, textures, level design, frame rate ect. just to name a few

[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Pices"] Blew me away because it looked incrediblePices

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Please tell me you're joking.

better lighning, textures, level design, frame rate ect. just to name a few

Half-Way

The game runs much smoother, better lightning effects, amazing water effects, incredibly detailed environments and great texture work. Sorry, but not your typical graphics nerd.Pices

I don't know what to say to you guys if you actual believe these things....

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="opex07"] and why did it look more incredible than Doom?princeofshapeir

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Please tell me you're joking.

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

better lighning, textures, level design, frame rate ect. just to name a few

The game runs much smoother, better lightning effects, amazing water effects, incredibly detailed environments and great texture work. Sorry, but not your typical graphics nerd.Pices

I don't know what to say to you guys if you actual believe these things....

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] The game runs much smoother, better lightning effects, amazing water effects, incredibly detailed environments and great texture work. Sorry, but not your typical graphics nerd.Pices

Please tell me you're joking.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Please tell me you're joking.

princeofshapeir

LOL, I could say the same exact thing to you. I know what I'm talking about? :) You don't like it? Tough luck

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Pices"] No, I'm not. And screenshots do no justice. Played them in person, I know what you're talking about.Pices

LOL, I could say the same exact thing to you. I know what I'm talking about? :) You don't like it? Tough luck

I've played both games, and I have to say that neither of you know what you're talking about. The textures in SMG are a blurred mess compared to the textures in Doom 3. Have you ever zoomed in on a wall, or the ground in SMG? Or any character model? Up close, you're looking at a jumble of pixels and splotchy colors that pale in comparison to last-gen PC games like Doom 3. Just look at the textures on the floor in the SMG picture: they look incredibly undetailed. Oh, but sorry, I forgot: apparently when you're playing these games in motion, the textures magically transform into hi-res versions. :lol: princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] I've played both games, and I have to say that neither of you know what you're talking about. The textures in SMG are a blurred mess compared to the textures in Doom 3. Have you ever zoomed in on a wall, or the ground in SMG? Or any character model? Up close, you're looking at a jumble of pixels and splotchy colors that pale in comparison to last-gen PC games like Doom 3. Just look at the textures on the floor in the SMG picture: they look incredibly undetailed. Oh, but sorry, I forgot: apparently when you're playing these games in motion, the textures magically transform into hi-res versions. :lol: Willy105

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SO Pices, proud of yourself? You got me suspended for "Harrassing" you, when I was just stating the obvious. Really, if you can't handle this place, just go. It would make many people happy!

gmc2u_64

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opex07

Nice job. This just about sums it up.

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opex07

But look at it this way: The Doom 3 screen shows a very small confined, rectangular room with little lightning. Meanwhile, Super Mario Galaxy is showing very large environments with no pop-ups, round and curvey environments, not to mention all the characters running around the area with full animations.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]Also, if you can't grasp where we are coming from, Doom 3 was intentionally developed to look as ugly and gritty as possible. By contrast, SMG was made to look as good and pleasing as possible. It took a lot of work to make Doom 3 look as ugly and gritty as possible, and it is a technical marvel. But it also has to deal with that fact.princeofshapeir

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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

SO Pices, proud of yourself? You got me suspended for "Harrassing" you, when I was just stating the obvious. Really, if you can't handle this place, just go. It would make many people happy!

Willy105

I mean, come on Willy! Don't tell me you're on Pices' side when he CONSTANTLY claims that people ae "Harrassing" him.

Pices, I swear that if you call the MODs on me again, you're just gonna get no respect from me or anyone else.

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opex07

And once again, the Doom 3 screen is at a much smaller scale, has one monster and few details (which is why it can achieve the lightining and shadows). The Mario Galaxy screen has two big, round Goombas with their own particle effects while walking, plus the round green warp pipe and the glowing giant 1-Up at the top.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

SO Pices, proud of yourself? You got me suspended for "Harrassing" you, when I was just stating the obvious. Really, if you can't handle this place, just go. It would make many people happy!

gmc2u_64

I mean, come on Willy! Don't tell me you're on Pices' side when he CONSTANTLY claims that people ae "Harrassing" him.

Pices, I swear that if you call the MODs on me again, you're just gonna get no respect from me or anyone else.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

SO Pices, proud of yourself? You got me suspended for "Harrassing" you, when I was just stating the obvious. Really, if you can't handle this place, just go. It would make many people happy!

gmc2u_64

I mean, come on Willy! Don't tell me you're on Pices' side when he CONSTANTLY claims that people ae "Harrassing" him.

Pices, I swear that if you call the MODs on me again, you're just gonna get no respect from me or anyone else.

You're suppose to call the mods when you are being attacked. Don't argue with people that just annoy, its a recipe for moderation. Trust me, I would know.

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] You were the one that did the wrong thing. He has the higher ground.Willy105

I mean, come on Willy! Don't tell me you're on Pices' side when he CONSTANTLY claims that people ae "Harrassing" him.

Pices, I swear that if you call the MODs on me again, you're just gonna get no respect from me or anyone else.

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] You were the one that did the wrong thing. He has the higher ground.ActicEdge

I mean, come on Willy! Don't tell me you're on Pices' side when he CONSTANTLY claims that people ae "Harrassing" him.

Pices, I swear that if you call the MODs on me again, you're just gonna get no respect from me or anyone else.

You're suppose to call the mods when you are being attacked. Don't argue with people that just annoy, its a recipe for moderation. Trust me, I would know.

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And once again, the Doom 3 screen is at a much smaller scale, has one monster and few details (which is why it can achieve the lightining and shadows). The Mario Galaxy screen has two big, round Goombas with their own particle effects while walking, plus the round green warp pipe and the glowing giant 1-Up at the top.

Willy105

Mario Galaxy has very little going on screen most of the time as well as Doom, but the things going on in doom is a much larger achievement due to the complexity of those things, having two complex monsters walking about is going to be far more diffucult than two very simple goombas. Also simply making/scaling a goomba larger or a pipe bigger wont necessarily add more geometry to the scene a 4 X 4 box is going to be the same polygons as a 16X16 box. SMG does have larger maps though, but those maps are not close to being as detailed as Dooms.

It has worse tech than its competition.

Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.

And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.

So what if it has casual garbage.

Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.

TheDogout

Wii is pumping out loads of AAAE games? What alternate universe are we in right now?

The reason the Wii is picked on is precisely for that reason - the fact that it is number 1 in sales but has the LEAST amount of fantastic games.

It has worse tech than its competition.

Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.

And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.

So what if it has casual garbage.

Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.

TheDogout

Wow, I'm surprised. I thought you were going to make fun of the Wii, but you did the opposite.

Most gamers don't like it because of graphics.

People who kind of play video games, but not much don't like it because they feel like they are supposed to.

And almost everyone just hasn't given it a chance.

Also, to my second point, and example is that we were talking about video games in my drafting c1ass and this one kid (Who is a complete moron) was saying how everyone he knows with a 360 and PS3 prefers the PS3, which I agree with. Then I said that I have a Wii and a PS3, and I like my Wii a lot more. The kid said, "You like the Wii more? Isn't that a little pathetic? Or embarassing?" I was like, "How is it embarassing?" He said, "Well, it has really bad graphics... and no one really likes it."

So basically, I told him that I don't care what other people think, and my opinion is that it has the best games and controls.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

And once again, the Doom 3 screen is at a much smaller scale, has one monster and few details (which is why it can achieve the lightining and shadows). The Mario Galaxy screen has two big, round Goombas with their own particle effects while walking, plus the round green warp pipe and the glowing giant 1-Up at the top.

opex07

Mario Galaxy has very little going on screen most of the time as well as Doom, but the things going on in doom is a much larger achievement due to the complexity of those things, having two complex monsters walking about is going to be far more diffucult than two very simple goombas. Also simply making/scaling a goomba larger or a pipe bigger wont necessarily add more geometry to the scene a 4 X 4 box is going to be the same polygons as a 16X16 box. SMG does have larger maps though, but those maps are not close to being as detailed as Dooms.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Willy105"]Also, if you can't grasp where we are coming from, Doom 3 was intentionally developed to look as ugly and gritty as possible. By contrast, SMG was made to look as good and pleasing as possible. It took a lot of work to make Doom 3 look as ugly and gritty as possible, and it is a technical marvel. But it also has to deal with that fact.Willy105