Why is the wii the laughing stock of the gaming industry?

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] A king without a castle to live in and army to command. So say "king" than king except if you talking only about hardware sales.AzatiS

Do you ever read what im saying or ??

""Except if you talking about hardware sales only" = It has the biggest number of fans.... Now you call me worse than a politic? Or you jumping what im saying to prove me wrong with a similar sentece with the very same meaning?... GoD!!!

[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

then you dont know your game history or knowledge...especially anybody that says the wii doesnt have good quality games

Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] Considering youre first 4-5 years now youre happy with your "quality" as well as quantity.,?? Not only you dont bring 1st party new/fresh IPs worth mention ( unlike PSone and PS2 that introduced too many to mention when they were first on their gens) , not only you got poor 3rd party support ( did you see COD4 for wii? Laughable) , not only you MISS some MAJOR AAA multis because of your weak platform (GTA4 -RE5 -SF4 - MW2 and many many more ) and anti-core audience ALSO all 3rd party developers starting decline Wii.... So ill tewll you this again. There wast ever such console in gaming history. End of story. Go read since ATARI 2600 if you dont beleive me. Even Gameboy had way better overall gaming/support than Wii. Period.nmaharg

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[QUOTE="opex07"]

I already addressed the genre thing earlier, and online is entirely your opinion, I'm going to assume your are a younger gamer because as you get older you will realize the importance of online as a way to get together with friends and families due to the increase in responsibilities you will have as an adult, making it harder to get together with friends like you would when you are younger, as well as friends and families moving away to go live their life's.

Millions of people wouldn't be playing online accross all of the systems including the Wii, if it was not important.

opex07

your right im only 17 with an IQ seemingly way ahead of half this forum and i do see my friends alot so we play local even on 360,and yes your right millions of people do play online but i doubt if you add in everybody from every console(ps3,wii,360) 1/3 of them probably play online and thats being generous

more than 1/2 of the world doesn't have access to clean water, food, and electricity, all very important things. I don't think being used by every one is what makes something important.

Also are you trying to say my I.Q is low? :o:lol:

im talking about people that have a current gen console obviously why would i be referring to people that dont have the luxury to these type of things,you have 70 million,34 million, and 39 million add those together and 1/3 plays online thats what i meant.

if you feel like i was referring it to you then be my guess i just sid half the people on this board didnt call out names;)

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[QUOTE="smartcriminal"] ok its lacking "quality genres" Nothing new that is quality The only quality games have been milked since the last 20 years disgusting graphics on a HD TV No online systemsmartcriminal

it does has quality in different genres i dont even think you own a wii so i would expect that from you,and why is online so important to so many posters here nobody goes outside anymore and you know..party,mingle,hang out?

:|go outside and you know physically see your friends and not worry about always going online where as most of the people you call friends you havent even seen before. well if thats how sheep feel then let them feel like that o just know they have a variety of quality games in different genres.review wise the hd twins have more quality games but they are all in the same genre trends(fps,rpg,tps)and thats about it the wii actually has noticeably other genres which is good for people that like those games

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[QUOTE="JengyMae"]

and waaaaay too much shovel ware

smartcriminal

its going to be amazing to see if this is still said when the other motion controllers come out...

it has"hardcore"games just not as many and what the hell does that have to do with having shovelware if you have shovelware you have shovelware stop being in denial

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

So you talk to girls while your gaming? Eh, I can only really focus on one thing at a time when it requires effort. Luckly women don't really demand attention like a game does :P

Bunj84

lol yea they dont it keeps things interesting but some things they say really causes me too lose focus sometimes thoo:oops:

HAHAHA!!!! you must be single :P

im not single i just noe how to put my foot down when it comes to certain things!...or i just dont get what i want at the end of the day lol

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"] That why is the laughing stock... There isnt any other system in gaming history till now , that is first by miles in hardware sales and being so poor in good games... There isnt any other laughable gaming system than Wii ( at least i dont remember anything like it and im active gamer since ATARI2600 )AzatiS

then you dont know your game history or knowledge...especially anybody that says the wii doesnt have good quality games

what are you talking about what does that have to do what i said they have quality games period you may not like them but there are many games that are A-AAA in the wii's library get over it you just ranted about satisfaction and yes i am satisfied since i dont play games that often anymore since im dealing with growing up

Basically because it's 1st place sales, last place games. O well, the casuals seem to like their Wii sports :Plocopatho

thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

Jfisch93

[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

Willy105

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

[QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

Willy105

[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Willy105"] Are people going to try to give the same arguments all the time even though they aren't even true? How about some originality in bashing the Wii? An argument that would actually fit the Wii would be nice. I'd rather Mario, Zelda, and Metroid go on for another 20 years than have tons and tons of new IP's and all of them be exactly the same game. Pices

It has worse tech than its competition.

Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.

And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.

So what if it has casual garbage.

Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.

TheDogout

I would have to disagree with you there, based on, you know, facts.

Metacritic, man. Or GS even. Look at the comparisons

Wii is laughing with the gaming industry at $ony and M$ for their failness and lack of creativity. Wii DA BEST!!! MAN!!! LISTEN!!!

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Jfisch93"]

Lacks good games, lacks new IP's (seriously nintendo, Marion, Zelda, and Metroid need to DIE), and the fact that its overrun with shovelware makes it a subpar system.

Sandvichman

[QUOTE="TheDogout"]

It has worse tech than its competition.

Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.

And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.

So what if it has casual garbage.

Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.

TalesofRaGnArOk

I would have to disagree with you there, based on, you know, facts.

Metacritic, man. Or GS even. Look at the comparisons

Well, the Wii is cheap and privy to easy development, while back then it was considered "innovative". Unfortunately the graphics are essentially the Gamecube guts in a white box with tacked on motion controls that didn't change much other than make every game include some crappy unnecessarywaggle feature with the few good games only having a minor use that could easily be placed on an extra button. Plus with the PS Move and Xbox eyetoy (I mean Natal), the unresponsive controls have aged as well as the Wii's graphics.

At least the system has some damn good games every once and a while not on the other consoles, but in quality terms it fails compared to the other 2.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

opex07

Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

Ratchet_Fan8

Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.

[/QUOTEgood post,NINTENDO must also make some new "INTERESTING" ips,enuff with the sour milk crap and rehashes,do something new already!

I find it very interesting that a Ratchet fan is criticizing Nintendo for keeping Mario and Zelda going. How many Ratchet games have we seen in the last 10 years?

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"][QUOTE="opex07"]

Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.

jimkabrhel

I find it very interesting that a Ratchet fan is criticizing Nintendo for keeping Mario and Zelda going. How many Ratchet games have we seen in the last 10 years?

jim my man. You're taking bait I've learned to ignore lol. He had a Naruto sig previously, a show which goes on for hundreds of episodes with maybe 1/5 of that being one what relevant and a 1/10 being entertaining. I don't respond to those kinds of posts lol. Nor do I respond to opex anymore because its a waste of time. Save your energy :P

Edit: Fixed someone's horrid quoting mess.

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

ActicEdge

link?

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

Phaze-Two

link?

Not going to link that. Its an observation and guess who the link would be coming from anyway? The age group interested in reviewing this medium who is "shock and horror" 18-35 year old males. (gasp)

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"] naruto..what? i hate that ***-ass'd show,i hate anime in general apart from Bleach [QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"][QUOTE="opex07"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

ActicEdge

Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.

[/QUOTEgood post,NINTENDO must also make some new "INTERESTING" ips,enuff with the sour milk crap and rehashes,do something new already!

I find it very interesting that a Ratchet fan is criticizing Nintendo for keeping Mario and Zelda going. How many Ratchet games have we seen in the last 10 years?

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.

ActicEdge

link?

Not going to link that. Its an observation and guess who the link would be coming from anyway? The age group interested in reviewing this medium who is "shock and horror" 18-35 year old males. (gasp)

link?

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Sandvichman"] This is going under the assumption that a new IP would be the same as something else, yet apperently nintendo is known for ''innovation'' Why do i see a major contradiction in all of this?Sandvichman

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

Well, the Wii is cheap and privy to easy development, while back then it was considered "innovative". Unfortunately the graphics are essentially the Gamecube guts in a white box with tacked on motion controls that didn't change much other than make every game include some crappy unnecessarywaggle feature with the few good games only having a minor use that could easily be placed on an extra button. Plus with the PS Move and Xbox eyetoy (I mean Natal), the unresponsive controls have aged as well as the Wii's graphics.

At least the system has some damn good games every once and a while not on the other consoles, but in quality terms it fails compared to the other 2.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Ratchet_Fan8"]good post,NINTENDO must also make some new "INTERESTING" ips,enuff with the sour milk crap and rehashes,do something new already!ActicEdge

I find it very interesting that a Ratchet fan is criticizing Nintendo for keeping Mario and Zelda going. How many Ratchet games have we seen in the last 10 years?

jim my man. You're taking bait I've learned to ignore lol. He had a Naruto sig previously, a show which goes on for hundreds of episodes with maybe 1/5 of that being one what relevant and a 1/10 being entertaining. I don't respond to those kinds of posts lol. Nor do I respond to opex anymore because its a waste of time. Save your energy :P

Edit: Fixed someone's horrid quoting mess.

I know, I know, but it's all good fun.

And yes there are a lot of Mario-spin off games, Ratchet, but those aren't developed by Nintendo, just published by them.

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Willy105"] I don't know. It's happening to you. Even though they use the same characters, they are each radically different from another. There are very few other series that you would say you want a sequel to one game in the series instead of just a new one in the series.Mario1331

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

This just proves they are only willing to play it safe with the same IP. Why can't they use those radical changes on a new IP?Sandvichman

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

Pices

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] This just proves they are only willing to play it safe with the same IP. Why can't they use those radical changes on a new IP?Sandvichman

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

Mario1331

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] This has nothbing to do with microsoft or sony, don't change the subject. Sandvichman

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

so why bring up the wii doesnt have new IP's for an arguement if none of the big 3 does but your not complaining about them also...thats hypocrisy you use the dictionary

While it's true that the Wii was bought by the most people , it is also true that most people are idiots. Wii=not worth the box it comes in.hexashadow13

nice opinion man

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

Mario1331

so why bring up the wii doesnt have new IP's for an arguement if none of the big 3 does but your not complaining about them also...thats hypocrisy you use the dictionary

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] How is that hypocricy? You are the one that took sony and MS into the discussion not me. Also, point out where i said that sont and ms have loads of new IP's. Get a dictionary before you start calling people for something. Sandvichman

so why bring up the wii doesnt have new IP's for an arguement if none of the big 3 does but your not complaining about them also...thats hypocrisy you use the dictionary

lol your really not getting it,my point is why even bring up that arguement of them not having new IP's if nobody is making new IP's but you like there games as well.its just pointless theirs no valid proof for that type of arguement because if you not complaining about all 3 of them doing it dont complain at all...

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

what new IP's did sony 1st party make then,or microsoft

Mario1331

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

Edit: Also Uncharted and Infamous, how could I forget!

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] This has nothbing to do with microsoft or sony, don't change the subject. locopatho

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

so why bring up the wii doesnt have new IP's for an arguement if none of the big 3 does but your not complaining about them also...thats hypocrisy you use the dictionary

Mario1331

lol your really not getting it,my point is why even bring up that arguement of them not having new IP's if nobody is making new IP's but you like there games as well.its just pointless theirs no valid proof for that type of arguement because if you not complaining about all 3 of them doing it dont complain at all...

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

Mario1331

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it