Why is the wii the laughing stock of the gaming industry?

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Basically because it's 1st place sales, last place games. O well, the casuals seem to like their Wii sports :PMario1331

thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Because the Wii is the center of discussion here, or did you maybe not read a few pages back, or perhapa you didn't notice the Title. Why am i going to complain about sony and ms when they are irrelevant to the discussion?Sandvichman

lol your really not getting it,my point is why even bring up that arguement of them not having new IP's if nobody is making new IP's but you like there games as well.its just pointless theirs no valid proof for that type of arguement because if you not complaining about all 3 of them doing it dont complain at all...

your almost getting there not quite yet,idk who says nintendo is innovative or w.e but to take a spin at a standard controller and make motion standard controller takes balls so yea the luck became kind of innovative as the others follow suit. and no if your going to make an arguement about one thing but the companies you like are guilty of it either then yes thats being a hypocrit your better off saying i dont like nintendo's 1st party (because you dont have to like it) then saying lack of new IP's because all of them dont have that many IP's and i never see this excuse come up about any other company when talking about disadvantages...it just has no justification but that nintendos IP's are older then me so everybody could say they lack IP's thats rediculous

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Basically because it's 1st place sales, last place games. O well, the casuals seem to like their Wii sports :PSandvichman

thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

how am i suppose to show you..you want me to list them?

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Um Motorstorm, Resistance, Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, Mag, Warhawk, Eye Of Judgement, The Last Guardian for Sony? Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Kameo, Viva Pinata, (plus they published Mass Effect and Gears of War) for MS? Sandvichman

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

if thats the case super paper mario smash bros etc are new ips since they are the last generation,no that doesnt really do justice im talking about 1st parties like santa monica studios and the likes

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

thats hypocrisyyou keep saying nintendo have the same IP's if they do then so does MS and Sony so stop COMPLAINING especially if their good IPS

Mario1331

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Um Motorstorm, Resistance, Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, Mag, Warhawk, Eye Of Judgement, The Last Guardian for Sony? Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Crackdown, Kameo, Viva Pinata, (plus they published Mass Effect and Gears of War) for MS? locopatho

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

i really could especially if you adding 2nd parties to the mix but im not adding that because if we are they have generally new IP's which defeats the point of the other guys arguement...yes common sense is a good essential dont you think:P

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

Mario1331

i really could especially if you adding 2nd parties to the mix but im not adding that because if we are they have generally new IP's which defeats the point of the other guys arguement...yes common sense is a good essential dont you think:P

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Basically because it's 1st place sales, last place games. O well, the casuals seem to like their Wii sports :PMario1331

thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] They are first and second party games. That's like saying Smash Bros and Kirby "don't count" because they are made by HAL not Nintendo. Have some common sense please. And you couldn't make that list for Nintendo. You could say Disaster which was rubbish, the Wii Blank games, and o yeah that's about it.locopatho

i really could especially if you adding 2nd parties to the mix but im not adding that because if we are they have generally new IP's which defeats the point of the other guys arguement...yes common sense is a good essential dont you think:P

i really dont like doing this but w.e

punchout,smash bros,pikmin,paper mario,dynamic slash,xenoblade,S&P2,trace memory,cosmic walker,spawn smaher,endless ocean,animal crossing,line attack heroes,manyt wii ware games.just because some games dont release in the states doesnt mean nintendo dont make IP's...

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i really could especially if you adding 2nd parties to the mix but im not adding that because if we are they have generally new IP's which defeats the point of the other guys arguement...yes common sense is a good essential dont you think:P

Mario1331

i really dont like doing this but w.e

punchout,smash bros,pikmin,paper mario,dynamic slash,xenoblade,S&P2,trace memory,cosmic walker,spawn smaher,endless ocean,animal crossing,line attack heroes,manyt wii ware games.just because some games dont release in the states doesnt mean nintendo dont make IP's...

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Basically because it's 1st place sales, last place games. O well, the casuals seem to like their Wii sports :Plocopatho

thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

it means i like the wii second in games just because the hd twins share to many of the same games...even their first parties have the same genres i like sony exclusives better the MS though. even if the wii dont have the multiplats (because if you strip that ps3/360 doesnt have much) i prefer some wii gaes over the blockbusters

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Please list them so :) I'm always on the lookout for quality Wii games I may have missed out on, especially if made by Nintendo. Enlighten me sir!locopatho

i really dont like doing this but w.e

punchout,smash bros,pikmin,paper mario,dynamic slash,xenoblade,S&P2,trace memory,cosmic walker,spawn smaher,endless ocean,animal crossing,line attack heroes,manyt wii ware games.just because some games dont release in the states doesnt mean nintendo dont make IP's...

yes i do a intellectual property, i just named them you said adding second parties,if you think last gen is called old ip's idk what to tell you

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i really dont like doing this but w.e

punchout,smash bros,pikmin,paper mario,dynamic slash,xenoblade,S&P2,trace memory,cosmic walker,spawn smaher,endless ocean,animal crossing,line attack heroes,manyt wii ware games.just because some games dont release in the states doesnt mean nintendo dont make IP's...

Mario1331

yes i do a intellectual property, i just named them you said adding second parties,if you think last gen is called old ip's idk what to tell you

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

lol your really not getting it,my point is why even bring up that arguement of them not having new IP's if nobody is making new IP's but you like there games as well.its just pointless theirs no valid proof for that type of arguement because if you not complaining about all 3 of them doing it dont complain at all...

Mario1331

your almost getting there not quite yet,idk who says nintendo is innovative or w.e but to take a spin at a standard controller and make motion standard controller takes balls so yea the luck became kind of innovative as the others follow suit. and no if your going to make an arguement about one thing but the companies you like are guilty of it either then yes thats being a hypocrit your better off saying i dont like nintendo's 1st party (because you dont have to like it) then saying lack of new IP's because all of them dont have that many IP's and i never see this excuse come up about any other company when talking about disadvantages...it just has no justification but that nintendos IP's are older then me so everybody could say they lack IP's thats rediculous

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thats totally subjective i feel like its second place and games cause all the multiplats feel like the same genres ive been playing since this gen started

Mario1331

how am i suppose to show you..you want me to list them?

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Do you know what a new IP is?locopatho

yes i do a intellectual property, i just named them you said adding second parties,if you think last gen is called old ip's idk what to tell you

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

resistance isnt first party neither is heavy rain,i could do the same exact list with the same exact many games for nintendo but that would just be annoying,point is if your going to complain about one company not making 1st party new IP's dont complain at all because none of them are doing a good job at it

Mario1331

if thats the case super paper mario smash bros etc are new ips since they are the last generation,no that doesnt really do justice im talking about 1st parties like santa monica studios and the likes

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Can you show me your collection of 3rd party games from the ps3/360? Sandvichman

how am i suppose to show you..you want me to list them?

Na i just listed games for some other guy that cost to much time and doesnt prove anything honestly yea i didnt proofread so what sue me its not that serious and its not about defending them its the fact that you brought it up like the others are doing a good job at them too.so ok leave it at that nintendo is lacking new IP's and so is MS and Sony

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] To be fair all those IPs still count under SCEA or MS. Making them their own IP's. Sandvichman

if thats the case super paper mario smash bros etc are new ips since they are the last generation,no that doesnt really do justice im talking about 1st parties like santa monica studios and the likes

i know what im talking about you just dont seem to understand that the reasons you gave for nintendo to be the laughing stock are easily flawed,because they have inferior online? so what,only people on this forum care about online that much,lack of IP's? who are making new IP's anymore that is my point to you these reasons are just personal opinions

I don't understand why people pay much attention to new IP's anyway. They're not all that significant. A game's quality should be considered first, not whether or not it's a sequel. Nintendo has an enormous amount of successful franchises already, and there's no point in them creating a new one just because a few people are complaining. princeofshapeir

...thank you like i was saying alot of reasons people are giving are personal opinions and easily flawed

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

yes i do a intellectual property, i just named them you said adding second parties,if you think last gen is called old ip's idk what to tell you

Mario1331

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

yes i do a intellectual property, i just named them you said adding second parties,if you think last gen is called old ip's idk what to tell you

Mario1331

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

I wouldn't call it a laughing stock but Nintendo did the wrong move on the system' hardware part because most multiplatform games for PC, X-box 360 and PS3 are very good and Wii is missing out on them, and according to Gamespot, X-box 360 has double the amount of AA-AAAA titles. Wii is still good but I wouldn't want it as my main gaming console when the X-box 360 and PS3 have much more to offer.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] This thread is about the Wii, a guy said it doesn't have many new IPs. You tried to claim PS3 and 360 didn't either. They do. Now you saying "O last gens new IPs count too!" Listing Sin and Punishment TWO as a "new IP" for the Wii? A sequel to a game that came out ten+ years ago? Are you utterly insane?locopatho

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I have no idea what you are talking about. I listed you plenty of MS and Sony new IPs from this gen. You ignored them and listed sequels to N64 games :| locopatho

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I don't understand why people pay much attention to new IP's anyway. They're not all that significant. A game's quality should be considered first, not whether or not it's a sequel. Nintendo has an enormous amount of successful franchises already, and there's no point in them creating a new one just because a few people are complaining. Mario1331

...thank you like i was saying alot of reasons people are giving are personal opinions and easily flawed

First you seem to call me a hypocrite because i didn't mention MS and Sony in a discussion mainly about nintendo.

Then you seem to not understand what hypocricy means.

Then you dispute that SP is not a new IP.

When shown and MS and Sony actually had a alright ammount with new IP's you resort to IP's released almost 10 years ago and last gen.

And you are telling us that our opinion is flawed?

Boy, you made my day.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] This thread is about the Wii, a guy said it doesn't have many new IPs. You tried to claim PS3 and 360 didn't either. They do. Now you saying "O last gens new IPs count too!" Listing Sin and Punishment TWO as a "new IP" for the Wii? A sequel to a game that came out ten+ years ago? Are you utterly insane?Sandvichman

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

ok buddy i havent even heard of S&P 2 it aint a new IP but its a fresh one at that.if you dont like it im sorry to hear that and why do you care about IP's that much anyway?how about you list me new IPs on the other systems then since heir are so many of them:roll:

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so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

Mario1331

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I don't understand why people pay much attention to new IP's anyway. They're not all that significant. A game's quality should be considered first, not whether or not it's a sequel. Nintendo has an enormous amount of successful franchises already, and there's no point in them creating a new one just because a few people are complaining. Sandvichman

...thank you like i was saying alot of reasons people are giving are personal opinions and easily flawed

First you seem to call me a hypocrite because i didn't mention MS and Sony in a discussion mainly about nintendo.

Then you seem to not understand what hypocricy means.

Then you dispute that SP is not a new IP.

When shown and MS and Sony actually had a alright ammount with new IP's you resort to IP's released almost 10 years ago and last gen.

And you are telling us that our opinion is flawed?

Boy, you made my day.

this is really getting annoying.maybe they are not new IP's but what you listed 4 games on one system and 4 on the other?that sure is alot and yes you are a hypocrit mainly because still all three systems dont have that many new IP's this gen but you only seem to complain about nintendo...just seems you have a personal beef with them to me

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I have no idea what you are talking about. I listed you plenty of MS and Sony new IPs from this gen. You ignored them and listed sequels to N64 games :| Sandvichman

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

what are you talking about he named 5 on the ps3 and 5 on the 360 how is that alot thats a handfull please your getting ahead of yourself now

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

Mario1331

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

so since a game hasnt had a new game made in 10 years its not counted as a completely new ip?ok i got your logic and you seem to not understand either.if no company are doing good jobs at new IP's but nintendo always get recognize thats a bit insane dont chu think?why even bring that up as a valid point and then dont back it up at all afterwards?

Mario1331

ok buddy i havent even heard of S&P 2 it aint a new IP but its a fresh one at that.if you dont like it im sorry to hear that and why do you care about IP's that much anyway?how about you list me new IPs on the other systems then since heir are so many of them:roll:

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I have no idea what you are talking about. I listed you plenty of MS and Sony new IPs from this gen. You ignored them and listed sequels to N64 games :| locopatho

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

you did not name me 10 new ps3 IP's maybe 10 altogether with the 360 but definately not 10 for the ps3 it was 5 and 5 thats not many as you are trying to give away im wrong about the sequel i could admit that but still they aint doing good with new ip's this gen...nobody is

The PS3 and Xbox 360 hasn't done anything new this gen that couldn't have been done last gen, except for slightly improved graphics. The Wii literally invented a new way to play games, and for the risk they took, they've literally stomped all over Sony and Microsoft. I've hardly played on the HD consoles this gen, and I've even purchased then returned an Xbox 360 3 times, just to play an exclusive which wasn't available for the PC. I agree with the lack of new IPs from Nintendo, but when they create a new Mario game, it feels like an entire different game. ie Mario Sunshine -> Mario Galaxy. Nintendo are clever. Have you noticed how they released Professor Layton for the DS, and the advert they used for it? A woman playing it on the DS. Now, they've released Zelda. Guess what they decided to do with it's advert? They explained how it was similar to Professor Layton. They're trying to tempt people who wouldn't touch a video game with a barge poll into playing surprisingly deep, story driven games. All Microsoft and Sony are doing is battling it out, without realizing that the current marketshare will start to become tired of the same rehashed sequals and games that we've seen before. Prime example: Hollywood.

While you may dislike the Wii because of its waggle. It's doing more for gaming then Microsoft and Sony, which they've obviously realized with the upcoming Natal and Move.

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Are you joking with me? Are you actually disputing the fact that SP is not a new IP simply because it's not a ip that's been used for a long time. I'm really beginning to question wether you actually know what NEW IP means. I don't understand this, why do you keep resorting to strawmen arguements?Sandvichman

ok buddy i havent even heard of S&P 2 it aint a new IP but its a fresh one at that.if you dont like it im sorry to hear that and why do you care about IP's that much anyway?how about you list me new IPs on the other systems then since heir are so many of them:roll:

because your trying to give away that the other two companies have many new IP's idk how you can count 2nd parties but w.e it really doesnt matter to me just having a couple of new IP's is no different then having none to me

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this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

Mario1331

what are you talking about he named 5 on the ps3 and 5 on the 360 how is that alot thats a handfull please your getting ahead of yourself now

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

Mario1331

you did not name me 10 new ps3 IP's maybe 10 altogether with the 360 but definately not 10 for the ps3 it was 5 and 5 thats not many as you are trying to give away im wrong about the sequel i could admit that but still they aint doing good with new ip's this gen...nobody is

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

ok buddy i havent even heard of S&P 2 it aint a new IP but its a fresh one at that.if you dont like it im sorry to hear that and why do you care about IP's that much anyway?how about you list me new IPs on the other systems then since heir are so many of them:roll:

Mario1331

because your trying to give away that the other two companies have many new IP's idk how you can count 2nd parties but w.e it really doesnt matter to me just having a couple of new IP's is no different then having none to me

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] He showed you a big deal of 1st party New IP's. All under SCEA, seriously, is this a joke? Sandvichman

what are you talking about he named 5 on the ps3 and 5 on the 360 how is that alot thats a handfull please your getting ahead of yourself now

he didnt name uncharted or infamous first off im looking at the page right now,but i really didnt know 2nd parties are counted as 1st party IPs that doesnt even make sense.because half of them could be knocked out that list then you added a downloadable game shadow complex?if were doing that i could list games as well please stop acting like nintendo does not have one new IP's this gen that reallyt is false

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Fresh, maybe that's subjective, but it sure ain't new. I like seeing new stuff on the market, but it doesn't matter that much to me. But what relevance does it have with the discussion anyways. I don't know how many New Ip's there are, not that it actually matter, probably ain't alot of them though, i think Ico made a list. Sandvichman

because your trying to give away that the other two companies have many new IP's idk how you can count 2nd parties but w.e it really doesnt matter to me just having a couple of new IP's is no different then having none to me

because you brought up lack of IPs like everybody got a whole bunch of new IP's dont you realize that....

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what are you talking about he named 5 on the ps3 and 5 on the 360 how is that alot thats a handfull please your getting ahead of yourself now

Mario1331

he didnt name uncharted or infamous first off im looking at the page right now,but i really didnt know 2nd parties are counted as 1st party IPs that doesnt even make sense.because half of them could be knocked out that list then you added a downloadable game shadow complex?if were doing that i could list games as well please stop acting like nintendo does not have one new IP's this gen that reallyt is false

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

this is going in circles im tired of explaining myself you name 5 damn games from ps3 and some of them are not even 1st party IP's because i see you are changing the arguement to benefit you that isnt plenty thats some

Mario1331

you did not name me 10 new ps3 IP's maybe 10 altogether with the 360 but definately not 10 for the ps3 it was 5 and 5 thats not many as you are trying to give away im wrong about the sequel i could admit that but still they aint doing good with new ip's this gen...nobody is

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Motorstorm, Resistance, Little Big Planet, Heavy Rain, Mag, Warhawk, Eye Of Judgement, The Last Guardian, Uncharted, Infamous. Sounds more then just 5, can you count. Kameo, Gears of war, Crackdown, Mass effect, Race pro, Too human, Shadow complex, Ninja Blade. Sandvichman

he didnt name uncharted or infamous first off im looking at the page right now,but i really didnt know 2nd parties are counted as 1st party IPs that doesnt even make sense.because half of them could be knocked out that list then you added a downloadable game shadow complex?if were doing that i could list games as well please stop acting like nintendo does not have one new IP's this gen that reallyt is false

ok and thats what im saying what company have brought that many new IP's in the industry right now...thats why i dont understand how anybody can use that as an arguement for a company to be the laughing stock

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I named you 10 new PS3 IPs, they were 1st and 2nd party, I don't make a distinction because that's silly. Resistance is of course a Sony IP, just like Smash Bros is a Nintendo IP and Too Human is a MS IP. You have named me sequels to N64 games. Please admit you are wrong, this is kinda embarrassing for you :Plocopatho

you did not name me 10 new ps3 IP's maybe 10 altogether with the 360 but definately not 10 for the ps3 it was 5 and 5 thats not many as you are trying to give away im wrong about the sequel i could admit that but still they aint doing good with new ip's this gen...nobody is

ok they have more new Ips then nintendo this generation ya happy?

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...thank you like i was saying alot of reasons people are giving are personal opinions and easily flawed

Mario1331

First you seem to call me a hypocrite because i didn't mention MS and Sony in a discussion mainly about nintendo.

Then you seem to not understand what hypocricy means.

Then you dispute that SP is not a new IP.

When shown and MS and Sony actually had a alright ammount with new IP's you resort to IP's released almost 10 years ago and last gen.

And you are telling us that our opinion is flawed?

Boy, you made my day.

this is really getting annoying.maybe they are not new IP's but what you listed 4 games on one system and 4 on the other?that sure is alot and yes you are a hypocrit mainly because still all three systems dont have that many new IP's this gen but you only seem to complain about nintendo...just seems you have a personal beef with them to me

First it was 5, now it is 4, then i showed you 10 of em, all from sony.

Seriously, get some glasses, this is getting just ridiculous. The reason i am not complaining about MS or sony is because they provide no relevant insight to the discussion, if the thread was called ''there is not alot of new Ip's this gen''

Then maybe my arguement would have changed. I don't understand you, being a hypocrite is complaining about one thing, yet acting upon or defending the same thing. I've done neither of this. I don't have a personal beef with you.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]

you did not name me 10 new ps3 IP's maybe 10 altogether with the 360 but definately not 10 for the ps3 it was 5 and 5 thats not many as you are trying to give away im wrong about the sequel i could admit that but still they aint doing good with new ip's this gen...nobody is

Mario1331

ok they have more new Ips then nintendo this generation ya happy?

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he didnt name uncharted or infamous first off im looking at the page right now,but i really didnt know 2nd parties are counted as 1st party IPs that doesnt even make sense.because half of them could be knocked out that list then you added a downloadable game shadow complex?if were doing that i could list games as well please stop acting like nintendo does not have one new IP's this gen that reallyt is false

Mario1331

ok and thats what im saying what company have brought that many new IP's in the industry right now...thats why i dont understand how anybody can use that as an arguement for a company to be the laughing stock

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Ok here's a nice list: Resistance Motorstorm Folklore Heavenly Sword Little Big Planet Heavy Rain Mag Warhawk Eye Of Judgement The Last Guardian Uncharted Infamous Modnation Racers Some are 2nd party, who cares it's still Sony paying for them. That's a bunch of new IPs there, at least 3 or 4 a year. Where are Nintendos? To be honest I don't even care too much about new IPs, it just ticks me off to see people talk BS. Would you like to politely admit you are wrong about the new IP issue now?locopatho

ok they have more new Ips then nintendo this generation ya happy?

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

First you seem to call me a hypocrite because i didn't mention MS and Sony in a discussion mainly about nintendo.

Then you seem to not understand what hypocricy means.

Then you dispute that SP is not a new IP.

When shown and MS and Sony actually had a alright ammount with new IP's you resort to IP's released almost 10 years ago and last gen.

And you are telling us that our opinion is flawed?

Boy, you made my day.

Sandvichman

this is really getting annoying.maybe they are not new IP's but what you listed 4 games on one system and 4 on the other?that sure is alot and yes you are a hypocrit mainly because still all three systems dont have that many new IP's this gen but you only seem to complain about nintendo...just seems you have a personal beef with them to me

First it was 5, now it is 4, then i showed you 10 of em, all from sony.

Seriously, get some glasses, this is getting just ridiculous. The reason i am not complaining about MS or sony is because they provide no relevant insight to the discussion, if the thread was called ''there is not alot of new Ip's this gen''

Then maybe my arguement would have changed. I don't understand you, being a hypocrite is complaining about one thing, yet acting upon or defending the same thing. I've done neither of this. I don't have a personal beef with you.

5, or 4 im a number off its not changing my reason to what you said that much i was typing before i lost my train of thought. i dont see why you brung up lack of Ips if nobody is doing good with Ip's but your saying that since this thread is specifically talking about nintendo the others dont matter which is true simple misunderstanding on my part my bad