Why is there such a complete lack of diversity and effort in Microsoft's Xbox first party?

MS is very risk averse (Putting out the same shit over and over again), they dont trust their own devs at all and they have not as many first party studios as Sony has. Thats why.

Its his job.

Is on all consoles and systems, so it is effectively nullified.

Sunset Overdrive is not an MS IP, Rare Replay is not a new release, Crimson Dragon is not an MS IP and neither is Fruit Ninja, and seriously, you want to count Kinect? Should I start counting counting Sony IPs like Soul Sacrifice, Escape Plan, Beyond: Two Souls, Rain, and Puppeteer, then? IT would be even more of a bloodbath then than it is right now.

Sure, I acknowledged that in the OP itself.

@NathanDrakeSwag: Guess it is getting kinda hard for him to shill on here when even mods are ripping Xbox apart.

Shit thread with a lot of bias, you included dead Sony franchises and ignored current bone franchises

Lul

Remarkable contribution.

I still wouldn't argue that it means Sony is more diverse. Diversity is about how different you are within your population. MS has a smaller population of games, but within that population, MS is doing a good job at doing different franchises with each instalment. MS just needs to release more games.

So to the topic, "effort" is a good word to use, but "diversity" isn't.

Before Forza GT was generally the highest critically acclaimed Driving Sim on consoles now Forza consistently outscores it.

It's not that Forza has become better it's more to do with a decline in quality for GT games, i would love to see GT regain it's former status as the premier driving sim on consoles

@charizard1605: he's not wrong. Resistance is dead, they're not going to make another one. Wipe out is pretty much dead too, it hasn't had a proper console release since 2008 and if you're counting mobile games then the top down twin stick halo games should count too.

You also failed to mention project spark, the Kinect games theyve made like Kinect sports, screamride and kinectimals, minecraft, crimson Dragon, cobalt, iron brigade, state of decay and zoo tycoon. Those are all first party games released in the last 5 years.

Wipeout had a release on PS Vita in 2012, and Sony has said that it will consider future games in the series.

I didn't mention all those games- I also didn't mention things like Escape Plan, Beyond Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Rain, Puppeteer, Soul Sacrifice, Journey, Super Stardust, Resogun, The Unfinished Swan, Hohokum, and other similar games. Interestingly enough, I do not see you complain about those.

The reason these games were not mentioned was because any game that is essentially an IP dead end, i.e. unlikely to be developed or pursued further by Microsoft or Sony, was not listed. If I were to do that, sure, Microsoft would gain those IPs- but Sony would release an exponential many more, because they publish about three new IPs as digital indie games a month.

Minecraft was not mentioned for the extremely obvious reason that it is available on all platforms, so listing it adds or subtracts nothing from discussion.

I have no idea why you wouldn't include Beyond Two Souls and some of the others. Excluding games for arbitrary reasons makes no sense. They're still different genres. Wipeout and Resistance are dead dude, there is no money in making those games anymore. Hell, Id be surprised if we saw another Killzone after how bad Shadowfall was.

Complete lack of diversity is a bit harsh, especially now in 2016, when it looks like MS' upcoming first party titles are gonna try and address that. But I will say, the quality has definitely gone down. With no more Ensemble, Bungie, Epic or Big Huge Games helping MS anymore, their first party franchises aren't in as safe hands as they once were. Gears Judgement and Halo 5 illustrate that point perfectly.

Simple, the Xbox is the dudebro shooter box. Microsoft knows who their customers are so they are going to double down on certain genres. A game like Journey would sell like crap on Xbox.

Yes exactly, GT5 and GT6 (5 especially) were ridiculously inconsistent in quality, at times laughable graphics, fluctuating frame rates, abysmal engine sounds that sounded better on the PS2 etc etc.

I love GT and have been playing it since the ps1, it was my favorite driving game franchise of all time and i have immense nostalgia for the older games but the PS3 era games were just not very good overall and Forza was able to capitalize on that and improve almost everything GT was getting wrong on the PS3.

GT had superior handling than Forza and still does, but Forza does everything else better and with more consistent quality.

I cant defend a GT game that has car models that are lifted straight out of the PS2 era and has cars that all sound like vacuum cleaners or bee hives.

I'm desperately hoping GT Sport and GT7 fix all these issues, seeing how the PS4 is easier to develop for and far more powerful than the PS3 im hoping Polyphony can get their mojo back and create a game as good as GT3 and 4 again.

This post is so disingenuous and passive aggressive, Charizard. And those graphs.. yikes. What got stuck in your craw, I wonder?

MS first party is a joke. If Halo never existed the Xbox brand would've gone the way of the CD-I a long time ago.

TLHBO

Nah, the original Xbox still had Sega's backing, back when that meant something.

They would have had a harder time of it, but they definitely would have managed to make a second console at least.

Well, much- if not all- of the Xbox brand's credibility was built around Halo 1 and 2, so I doubt a second system would have been nearly as successful if Halo had never existed.

Assuming Xbox 360 existed in this alternate timeline just as it did in ours- i.e. Microsoft going out of their way to steal exclusives from Sony, court multiplatform and indie development, and get exclusives from third parties while also firing on all cylinders on their own first party front, plus Sega's support? It would have done fine. It would have maybe lacked that immediate blockbuster exclusive that Halo was, but even then, Gears would have rectified that on the Xbox 360.

playing it safe

Yes SEGA was on the Xbox....but also the PS2 and the GC. So it depended on which of their games you liked or conversely you bought all 3 consoles for SEGA games.

@charizard1605 What level are you at now in 'Riding The Tiger'? These threads must boost you substantially.

@mems_1224: I fully expect another Killzone game. It may have been mediocre, but it was a launch title that sold over 2 million copies.

Lol, another long ass thread bashing the X1 and praising , yeah we get it, the PS4 is probably better (don't have an X1 so I can't say for sure).

Cows spend so much time bashing everything else instead of playing their games. Oh wait. Still waiting for that greatness other than Bloodborne, right.

@charizard1605: same to you, chump