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#251 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Nope..just adults. You know that's the diffrence between most pcgamers and console gamers. PCgamers are mostly adults who have a good job and can afford their hobby, most console gamers (especialy at SW) are teenagers who live with their parents and have to ask them for money to buy anything.FrozenLiquid

ooohhh Don't stoop down to their level mate, not good.

The Sims is played by a lot of people, including women of all ages who feel left out by male-oriented games. You get the "Fantastic 4 Activity Center" for tots who don't want toplay The Darkness.

The same goes for consoles. Adrian, you're kidding me if you haven't seen 30 year old Nintendo fans. These kids grew up with Nintendo. And you see 40 year old fathers walking out with Xbox 360s looking smug and there children aren't even with them.

I think PC gaming has its advantages, as well as console gaming.

Quite frankly, I'm getting pissed off that no nvidia driver can stop LOTR:O from crashing. That's a huge minus for PC gaming.

Agreed, one of my best freinds whole family is into computer games his 12 year old sister loves the sims his 18 year old sister plays WoW. PC has plenty of casuals I earn enough money to get whatever gaming rig I want but I go with a PS3 and 360 why? Because combined they simply have more games I want to play then the play then the pc .

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#252 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="primetime2121"]

lol..who plays economic games or mech sims ?? 40 year old bald loners who still live with their parents

br0kenrabbit

Who plays a fake plastic guitar instead of learning how to play a real one? Who has to have busty 15-year-old girls in all their RPGs? Which market isn't 'dedicated' enough to learn the procedures for getting a plane off the ground and have to rely on faked, simplified procedures to do so? What is it, press X to launch? Where's flaps? Where's blade pitch? Where's tail wheel lock? Where's supercharger settings? Where's....

Who plays a fake guitar instead of learning how to play a real one?

Well, who plays the most realistic flight sims instead of learning how to fly one?

Being a bit hypocritical here if you ask me.

And the whole "Hermit's a loners" thing is kicking in here. If you knew anything about Guitar Hero, a lot of guitar players actually play that game and think it's a helluva lot of fun.

From looking at World of Warcraft and Everquest 2 (Hell, EQ2 had a busty chick on its boxart!), I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that only consoles have scantily clad women. Yes, metal bikinis will save you from the sharp blade of sword.....

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#253 KirbyFan10101
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I love how VandalVideo is always quick to spout "well, thats just your opinion!", as if somehow he is beyond the general laws of subjectivity and is the supreme commander of what is factual.

Heres some console propaganda, because we obviously need some sort of counter-intelligence.

PC's can use gamepads !! And you can fry an egg on your PSU, that doesn't make it a good idea. PC games are designed around a KB/M almost exclusively. Any alternative control scheme is going to be compromised. And forget about it online.

PC's run on TV's !! Yet they aren't designed to. Interfaces are (quite obviously) designed with the player sitting at a very close distance. Some games work this way, many don't. Not to mention trying to get your KB/M combination to work on your couch, as most peoples best televisions are in their living rooms.

PC's are easy to use !! No, they aren't. They are easy to use until you've got a compatability problem, then its off to the forums to replace .dll files and the next thing you know your computer is filled with Korean puppy porn. Believe me, I've been there.

PC's do every genre as well as, or better than, consoles !! This is quite obviously a farce, as the PC's most popular genres are FPS games and more importantly, RTS games. Action Adventure games, platformers, and what not are best done on consoles. This is simply a compromise on either end.

PC's are "plug in and play" !! I still remember the horror days of trying to get my copy of FFVII to work on my PC. PC's are inconsistant and more often than you'd like, the setup, installation and patch times very are prohibitive.

PC's have the most AA/AAA's every year !! This is true. The degree to which this entices you is the degree to which you enjoy PC's best franchises, which tend to be RTS games (though, of course, there are MANY others, this is simply my observation).

PC's are cheap !! PC's are cheaper than what some would have you believe, but they are by no standards inexpensive. Getting an above average PC now will give you 2 years of decent gaming performance, before you start hitting the lower resolutions. Its a pricy hobby though, albiet, there are many fringe benefits to PC gaming which can subsidise the cost.

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#254 TheDuffman26
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PC gaming will always own your wallet too and it doesn't have a lot of good games the consoles do. BUT it does have Crysis......
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#255 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="x_boyfriend"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"]PC gaming also has the advantage of being attached to a proliferate modern electronic item that isn't likely to be removed from our society any time soon.Polaris_choice

Haha true that.

Wow hermits really have gone mad. Fact is about every pc you owned had died and been removed from society as it has become worthless as technology goes on. Most Consoles have much longer life spans then any one pc. I really dont see the point of this thread . When peopel bash pc its simply because they dont like the games that come to pc. Its obvious the pc industry paves the way to new technolgies in every console but that doesnt change the fact that some people like console gaming better.

I didn't say it did. I just said that PC gaming has an advantage of being attached to a common item.

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#256 Danm_999
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Yes, metal bikinis will save you from the sharp blade of sword.....

FrozenLiquid

It's because their enchanted! :P

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#257 Poshkidney
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we get the best technogly before the consoles if only we got some of their good titles not the crap they keep flinging on it
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#258 kcpp2b
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This thread from the TC and his post is why I more and more hate hermits. So many have this attitude of being superior as if PC invented God and this and that.

It's similar to the whole feeling I have and get about how punk fans act and think how everyone sells out and only they are true punk fans and this and that garbage.

People like what they like. Nothing owns anything in the real world. In fanboy world sure PC is god or 360 owns or the PS3 is king or Wii is the man. But back in the world of sanity and logic it's all based on opinion and IMO console gaming is the best but I don't foolishly make a thread saying so for whatever weird reason the TC did. Maybe he feels inferior and worried or jealous about console gaming.

Well all gaming is great and doing and will only do better.

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#259 killab2oo5
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I guess the an Atari 2600 is better than a PS2...because it came first. -.-' System wars...only in system wars.

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#260 slothboyadvance
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I personally like console gaming over PC gaming. I like the controllers, I like the plug and play nature, I love the games that I can't find on PC (excluding emulation, of course).

Although I am becoming a more avid PC gamer, console gaming will always be the best to me.

EDIT: Maybe I should mention that I hate how arrogant Hermits can be.

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#261 Danm_999
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This thread from the TC and his post is why I more and more hate hermits. So many have this attitude of being superior as if PC invented God and this and that.

kcpp2b

EDIT: Maybe I should mention that I hate how arrogant Hermits can be.

slothboyadvance

Guys, let's take off our rose coloured glasses for a few minutes. Yeah, Hermits are arrogant. But in case you haven't noticed, arrogance is the watchword on these forums. I mean, look at some of the topics in the last few hours:

Why the Xbox 360 is winning the console wars

The PS3 is the best, period.

I dont care about the wii(you shouldnt either)

[Your Systems are] losing against the wii

top 10 reasons the xbox360 is a pice of crap

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#262 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

This thread from the TC and his post is why I more and more hate hermits. So many have this attitude of being superior as if PC invented God and this and that.

Danm_999

EDIT: Maybe I should mention that I hate how arrogant Hermits can be.

slothboyadvance

Guys, let's take off our rose coloured glasses for a few minutes. Yeah, Hermits are arrogant. But in case you haven't noticed, arrogance is the watchword on these forums. I mean, look at some of the topics in the last few hours:

Why the Xbox 360 is winning the console wars

The PS3 is the best, period.

I dont care about the wii(you shouldnt either)

[Your Systems are] losing against the wii

top 10 reasons the xbox360 is a pice of crap

This is a system wars board. What do you expect

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#263 rpg9000owner
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="vashkey"]

And like I said, there are no good PC games unless you like only FPS, strategy games and MMOs. "KAPISH"?

cobrax25

And there are no good console games unless you like only sports, shooters and racing. "KAPISH"? :D

Actually, you can find a large variety of games on console in any genre except may MMORPG and RTS. Two of the most boring genres mind you.

I wasnt aware consoles got a lot of sims....

Puzzle and Adventurte games too.
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#264 AirGuitarist87
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You're just trying to twist my words instead of addressing the points I'm trying to make.

But go ahead and deny that too.:)

LosDaddie

Crazy cracker did that to me too. And he won't stop saying "misconception". I think he has a Word of The Day calendar.

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#265 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

This thread from the TC and his post is why I more and more hate hermits. So many have this attitude of being superior as if PC invented God and this and that.

TheDuffman26

EDIT: Maybe I should mention that I hate how arrogant Hermits can be.

slothboyadvance

Guys, let's take off our rose coloured glasses for a few minutes. Yeah, Hermits are arrogant. But in case you haven't noticed, arrogance is the watchword on these forums. I mean, look at some of the topics in the last few hours:

Why the Xbox 360 is winning the console wars

The PS3 is the best, period.

I dont care about the wii(you shouldnt either)

[Your Systems are] losing against the wii

top 10 reasons the xbox360 is a pice of crap

This is a system wars board. What do you expect

Yes. That was my point. Constantly singling out one group of fanboys on System Wars is like singling out one wave in the ocean.

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#266 ChinoJamesKeene
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[QUOTE="-LegendaryLuck-"]Viva la PC! I can understand why PC Fanboys...lemmings, if I understand this animal talk right. I can understand why Lemmings prefer PC gaming over all console gaming, the best backwards compatability, mods, best online, best library of games, region free, etc. etc. But you Lemmings should admit, consoles have their ups to. To many people, building/upgrading a PC can be intimidating, and having the items ready in the box with simple plug-in-and-play method of set up can be attracting also.Pro_wrestler

You mean cows.

The whole mod thing is the most refutable thing about PC games. Its bad enough that you have to keep your drivers up to date for any GPU if you want the best performance but modding your game can cause all kinds of unwanted glitches. Does not have best library of games, does not have the best online.

lololol, oh god thats funny.

You install drivers once, maybe update once a year... and even then itdoesn't really effect performance.

Modding a game? you get mods for games, you don't screw anything up playing CS or customs on Warcraft 3. Gary's mod has nothing like it on consoles, user made maps and character models, graffiti.

And playing online is best on the PC, more games that are balanced regulary, more variety of online games, no charges, voice chat or TEXT, less retarded poeple playing etc...

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#267 Vandalvideo
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I love how VandalVideo is always quick to spout "well, thats just your opinion!", as if somehow he is beyond the general laws of subjectivity and is the supreme commander of what is factual.

Heres some console propaganda, because we obviously need some sort of counter-intelligence.

PC's can use gamepads !! And you can fry an egg on your PSU, that doesn't make it a good idea. PC games are designed around a KB/M almost exclusively. Any alternative control scheme is going to be compromised. And forget about it online.

PC's run on TV's !! Yet they aren't designed to. Interfaces are (quite obviously) designed with the player sitting at a very close distance. Some games work this way, many don't. Not to mention trying to get your KB/M combination to work on your couch, as most peoples best televisions are in their living rooms.

PC's are easy to use !! No, they aren't. They are easy to use until you've got a compatability problem, then its off to the forums to replace .dll files and the next thing you know your computer is filled with Korean puppy porn. Believe me, I've been there.

PC's do every genre as well as, or better than, consoles !! This is quite obviously a farce, as the PC's most popular genres are FPS games and more importantly, RTS games. Action Adventure games, platformers, and what not are best done on consoles. This is simply a compromise on either end.

PC's are "plug in and play" !! I still remember the horror days of trying to get my copy of FFVII to work on my PC. PC's are inconsistant and more often than you'd like, the setup, installation and patch times very are prohibitive.

PC's have the most AA/AAA's every year !! This is true. The degree to which this entices you is the degree to which you enjoy PC's best franchises, which tend to be RTS games (though, of course, there are MANY others, this is simply my observation).

PC's are cheap !! PC's are cheaper than what some would have you believe, but they are by no standards inexpensive. Getting an above average PC now will give you 2 years of decent gaming performance, before you start hitting the lower resolutions. Its a pricy hobby though, albiet, there are many fringe benefits to PC gaming which can subsidise the cost.

KirbyFan10101
Too bad this doesn't change the fact that the PC supports all these options, and can easily provide the same experience as consoles. All PC games support gamepads, it can hook up to your tv and be played from your couch, it can be just as cheap as consoles, it has a wide variety of genres, it CAN be fully plug and play, PCs can be incredibly user friendly, etc. These are all facts, and anything you say to the contrary won't ever discredit these FACTS.
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#268 Vandalvideo
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Yup, in the reality that is SW.I've never seen a company promote their competitor's product before. I guess both MS & Sony are too foolish to realize they are promoting a direct competitor's product.LosDaddie
Once again, technically speaking, the PC IS infact in direct competition with consoles. What companies feel do little to change this.
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#269 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]Yup, in the reality that is SW.I've never seen a company promote their competitor's product before. I guess both MS & Sony are too foolish to realize they are promoting a direct competitor's product.Vandalvideo
Once again, technically speaking, the PC IS infact in direct competition with consoles. What companies feel do little to change this.

Once again, both MS & Sony are too dumb to realize they were promoting a direct competitor's product that their E3 Press Conference.

Someone should tell them just how dumb they are being, especially MS and its promoting of Games for Windows.

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#270 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]Yup, in the reality that is SW.I've never seen a company promote their competitor's product before. I guess both MS & Sony are too foolish to realize they are promoting a direct competitor's product.LosDaddie

Once again, technically speaking, the PC IS infact in direct competition with consoles. What companies feel do little to change this.

Once again, both MS & Sony are too dumb to realize they were promoting a direct competitor's product that their E3 Press Conference.

Someone should tell them just how dumb they are being, especially MS and its promoting of Games for Windows.

Which has little impact on the technicality of what I'm saying. Its a fact that the PC is in direct competition for sales with the consoles. This is undeniable fact.
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#271 BrokenTriforce
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I'm not going to argue with the fact that the pc is more powerful or it has some great games, but let me ask the pc only peoplea question. How often do you have friends over to play on your pc? Personally, half the time I spend gaming is with friends in the same room as me. Now I know this is my opinion/preference but I don't see the fun in playing by myself or with random people online.
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#272 Vandalvideo
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I'm not going to argue with the fact that the pc is more powerful or it has some great games, but let me ask the pc only peoplea question. How often do you have friends over to play on your pc? Personally, half the time I spend gaming is with friends in the same room as me. Now I know this is my opinion/preference but I don't see the fun in playing by myself or with random people online.BrokenTriforce
No PC gamer is a "PC only" gamer. The vast majority of us have other consoles. I owned all three at one point in time, traded in the Wii because I disliked it. The PC has the option to supoprts splitscreen co-op, and does so with games like PES. I used to have tons of people over at my apartment playing my PC in the living room.
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#273 turgore
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Wich system brought online gaming?
xbox!

Wich System Invented 3d Gaming?
N64

Wich system keeps advancing every year in new technology like HDR lighting and such?
PS3

Wich system has been around since the atari 2600 days?
Pong??

Wich system invented RPGs?
PEn and paper???

Wich system keeps pushing the limits every year??
Windows

shall i keep going?
No. PCs are not systems . They are platforms.

PCs have been paving the way for the new consoles every year nothing more needs to be said.

Keep adding to the thread if u have more stuff PCs have invented

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#274 BrokenTriforce
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[QUOTE="BrokenTriforce"]I'm not going to argue with the fact that the pc is more powerful or it has some great games, but let me ask the pc only peoplea question. How often do you have friends over to play on your pc? Personally, half the time I spend gaming is with friends in the same room as me. Now I know this is my opinion/preference but I don't see the fun in playing by myself or with random people online.Vandalvideo
No PC gamer is a "PC only" gamer. The vast majority of us have other consoles. I owned all three at one point in time, traded in the Wii because I disliked it. The PC has the option to supoprts splitscreen co-op, and does so with games like PES. I used to have tons of people over at my apartment playing my PC in the living room.

Anything 4-player? Just asking cause, idk.

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#275 jkmetalf
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PC gaming will always own your wallet too and it doesn't have a lot of good games the consoles do. BUT it does have Crysis......TheDuffman26
Right it doesn't. It has far, far more good games of its own.
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#276 Zeliard9
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I love how VandalVideo is always quick to spout "well, thats just your opinion!", as if somehow he is beyond the general laws of subjectivity and is the supreme commander of what is factual.

Heres some console propaganda, because we obviously need some sort of counter-intelligence.

PC's can use gamepads !! And you can fry an egg on your PSU, that doesn't make it a good idea. PC games are designed around a KB/M almost exclusively. Any alternative control scheme is going to be compromised. And forget about it online.

PC's run on TV's !! Yet they aren't designed to. Interfaces are (quite obviously) designed with the player sitting at a very close distance. Some games work this way, many don't. Not to mention trying to get your KB/M combination to work on your couch, as most peoples best televisions are in their living rooms.

PC's are easy to use !! No, they aren't. They are easy to use until you've got a compatability problem, then its off to the forums to replace .dll files and the next thing you know your computer is filled with Korean puppy porn. Believe me, I've been there.

PC's do every genre as well as, or better than, consoles !! This is quite obviously a farce, as the PC's most popular genres are FPS games and more importantly, RTS games. Action Adventure games, platformers, and what not are best done on consoles. This is simply a compromise on either end.

PC's are "plug in and play" !! I still remember the horror days of trying to get my copy of FFVII to work on my PC. PC's are inconsistant and more often than you'd like, the setup, installation and patch times very are prohibitive.

PC's have the most AA/AAA's every year !! This is true. The degree to which this entices you is the degree to which you enjoy PC's best franchises, which tend to be RTS games (though, of course, there are MANY others, this is simply my observation).

PC's are cheap !! PC's are cheaper than what some would have you believe, but they are by no standards inexpensive. Getting an above average PC now will give you 2 years of decent gaming performance, before you start hitting the lower resolutions. Its a pricy hobby though, albiet, there are many fringe benefits to PC gaming which can subsidise the cost.

KirbyFan10101

So in essence it boils down to "PCs are too hard to use and expensive", which is the typical argument. You didn't refute anything else at all. Nobody is saying those ways you mentioned are the optimal ways to game on a PC. The point is that if you want to hook your computer up to your big-screen HDTV and use a 360 controller to play, you can. You have those options ahead of you. On the other hand a lot of the stuff you can do on a PC, you can't on consoles.

Why would action/adventures and platformers and whatever be superior on consoles when, as has been noted, you can use a gamepad on a PC? And I don't know what PC games you've been playing, but most in the past few years have had specific gamepad configurations and/or allowed you to customize your own. Consoles get more platformers and fighting games and such, but they aren't inherently superior on consoles. Why would they be? For the 400th time, you can use a gamepad on a PC, which is the only real obstacle with those types of games. And for some odd reason, Prince of Persia Sands of Time played beautifully on a PC.

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#278 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="LosDaddie"]Yup, in the reality that is SW.I've never seen a company promote their competitor's product before. I guess both MS & Sony are too foolish to realize they are promoting a direct competitor's product.Vandalvideo

Once again, technically speaking, the PC IS infact in direct competition with consoles. What companies feel do little to change this.

Once again, both MS & Sony are too dumb to realize they were promoting a direct competitor's product that their E3 Press Conference.

Someone should tell them just how dumb they are being, especially MS and its promoting of Games for Windows.

Which has little impact on the technicality of what I'm saying. Its a fact that the PC is in direct competition for sales with the consoles. This is undeniable fact.

Yup, I haven't denied that fact at all.

I think I'm going to send an email to both MS and Sony and ask them why they are promoting a direct competitor's product. One would think these mega coporations would know better.

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#279 Arjdagr8
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]

I prefer consoles over pc simply because of better driving games (gran turismo, forza, project gotham, burnout etc.), fighting games (tekken, dead or alive, virtua fighter, street fighter), platformers (ratchet and clank, mario, conker, jak and daxter etc.), action games (ninja gaiden, devil may cry, god of war) as well as puzzle games, rhythm games, great japanese made games that arent on pc unless done by a really bad porting job (dmc, shadow of the colossus, okami, metal gear solid etc.) as well as a number of shooters some of which arent on pc (others are better on pc)

I play consoles more simply because of the larger variety of games. Really i can't say consoles own pc or vice versa simply because it really depends on the games you prefer. If your into fps and rts, then i guess pc gaming is for you. But im an all round gamer who enjoys games of all sorts. In this case i prefer consoles over pc.

Vandalvideo

Thats funny, because the PC is currently leading in driving titles, is getting the next DOA title as an exclusive, and a lot of action oriented games liek Devil May Cry and Lost Planet are beginning to see simultaenous releases on PCs as well. Not to mention there is an entire series solely devoted to puzzles on the PC, that you just can't find on consoles. That would be the FPA. The PC has just as much variety as consoles.

what are you talking about, all the best driving games for pc game out before 2000. Just because it has a large quantity considerin PCs came out long ago doesnt make them better. As i said, devil may cry is crap on pc cos of a bad porting job. It is sooo much better on consoles. Just because PC has a large quantity of games doesnt make it better. Maybe i shouldve rephrased what i said...no wait i already said it, consoles has a big variety of games that are BETTER than pc. Even resident evil 4 on pc wasn't that great. Games like mario, zelda, jak and daxter, okami wont come on pc. ninja gaiden is an amazing game, god of war too. burnout?? even splinter cell was claimed to be better on xbox than on pc. I mean with chaos theory you have a bad CD protection system that could potentially mess up your system and double agent has numerous bugs on the pc version. The only games I use my pc for is counter strike, call of duty etc. o wait FPS?! So you say pc has as much variety by talkin about driving games, puzzle games and devil may cry and lost planet. So what about all the rhythm games, fighting games, action games like ninja gaiden or god of war...what about the amazing japanese games that most don't even come out for pc, and if they do they are ported really badly.

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what are you talking about, all the best driving games for pc game out before 2000. Just because it has a large quantity considerin PCs came out long ago doesnt make them better. As i said, devil may cry is crap on pc cos of a bad porting job. It is sooo much better on consoles. Just because PC has a large quantity of games doesnt make it better. Maybe i shouldve rephrased what i said...no wait i already said it, consoles has a big variety of games that are BETTER than pc. Even resident evil 4 on pc wasn't that great. Games like mario, zelda, jak and daxter, okami wont come on pc. ninja gaiden is an amazing game, god of war too. burnout?? even splinter cell was claimed to be better on xbox than on pc. I mean with chaos theory you have a bad CD protection system that could potentially mess up your system and double agent has numerous bugs on the pc version. The only games I use my pc for is counter strike, call of duty etc. o wait FPS?! So you say pc has as much variety by talkin about driving games, puzzle games and devil may cry and lost planet. So what about all the rhythm games, fighting games, action games like ninja gaiden or god of war...what about the amazing japanese games that most don't even come out for pc, and if they do they are ported really badly. Arjdagr8
Is that why GTR2 got racing GOTY and the PC is currently leading in racing titles? I'm not necessarily saying the PC is better. I've never necessarily said the PC is better, I'm merely stating facts about the platform. If you have a problem with my facts, then so be it. They're facts never the less. The PC has plenty of variety. I mean, could play the same game you're doing. Where are all the Still Life style games for the coonsoles. Where are all the MMO games for the consoles. I could go on and on and this would go on forever. The fact of the matter is that the PC has just as much variety.
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#281 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Dualityeq"]

Wich system brought online gaming?
xbox!

Wich System Invented 3d Gaming?
N64

Wich system keeps advancing every year in new technology like HDR lighting and such?
PS3

Wich system has been around since the atari 2600 days?
Pong??

Wich system invented RPGs?
PEn and paper???

Wich system keeps pushing the limits every year??
Windows

shall i keep going?
No. PCs are not systems . They are platforms.

PCs have been paving the way for the new consoles every year nothing more needs to be said.

Keep adding to the thread if u have more stuff PCs have invented

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The word system is inclusive of PCs. Their both Systems and Platforms. In fact, the word system was applied to PCs before consoles even existed.

Also, something doesn't invent something because it's the first of it's kind to utilize it (like you said with N64 inventing 3D gaming). The first car with a radio in it didn't invent radios.

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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]what are you talking about, all the best driving games for pc game out before 2000. Just because it has a large quantity considerin PCs came out long ago doesnt make them better. As i said, devil may cry is crap on pc cos of a bad porting job. It is sooo much better on consoles. Just because PC has a large quantity of games doesnt make it better. Maybe i shouldve rephrased what i said...no wait i already said it, consoles has a big variety of games that are BETTER than pc. Even resident evil 4 on pc wasn't that great. Games like mario, zelda, jak and daxter, okami wont come on pc. ninja gaiden is an amazing game, god of war too. burnout?? even splinter cell was claimed to be better on xbox than on pc. I mean with chaos theory you have a bad CD protection system that could potentially mess up your system and double agent has numerous bugs on the pc version. The only games I use my pc for is counter strike, call of duty etc. o wait FPS?! So you say pc has as much variety by talkin about driving games, puzzle games and devil may cry and lost planet. So what about all the rhythm games, fighting games, action games like ninja gaiden or god of war...what about the amazing japanese games that most don't even come out for pc, and if they do they are ported really badly. Vandalvideo
Is that why GTR2 got racing GOTY and the PC is currently leading in racing titles? I'm not necessarily saying the PC is better. I've never necessarily said the PC is better, I'm merely stating facts about the platform. If you have a problem with my facts, then so be it. They're facts never the less. The PC has plenty of variety. I mean, could play the same game you're doing. Where are all the Still Life style games for the coonsoles. Where are all the MMO games for the consoles. I could go on and on and this would go on forever. The fact of the matter is that the PC has just as much variety.

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#284 br0kenrabbit
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Well, who plays the most realistic flight sims instead of learning how to fly one?

Being a bit hypocritical here if you ask me.

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Dude, I AM A REAL-LIFE PILOT! Come again? You do realize we train on simulators, right? Right?

From looking at World of Warcraft and Everquest 2 (Hell, EQ2 had a busty chick on its boxart!), I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that only consoles have scantily clad women.

I wasn't talking about WOMEN, I was talking about GIRLS.
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[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"]what are you talking about, all the best driving games for pc game out before 2000. Just because it has a large quantity considerin PCs came out long ago doesnt make them better. As i said, devil may cry is crap on pc cos of a bad porting job. It is sooo much better on consoles. Just because PC has a large quantity of games doesnt make it better. Maybe i shouldve rephrased what i said...no wait i already said it, consoles has a big variety of games that are BETTER than pc. Even resident evil 4 on pc wasn't that great. Games like mario, zelda, jak and daxter, okami wont come on pc. ninja gaiden is an amazing game, god of war too. burnout?? even splinter cell was claimed to be better on xbox than on pc. I mean with chaos theory you have a bad CD protection system that could potentially mess up your system and double agent has numerous bugs on the pc version. The only games I use my pc for is counter strike, call of duty etc. o wait FPS?! So you say pc has as much variety by talkin about driving games, puzzle games and devil may cry and lost planet. So what about all the rhythm games, fighting games, action games like ninja gaiden or god of war...what about the amazing japanese games that most don't even come out for pc, and if they do they are ported really badly. Vandalvideo
Is that why GTR2 got racing GOTY and the PC is currently leading in racing titles? I'm not necessarily saying the PC is better. I've never necessarily said the PC is better, I'm merely stating facts about the platform. If you have a problem with my facts, then so be it. They're facts never the less. The PC has plenty of variety. I mean, could play the same game you're doing. Where are all the Still Life style games for the coonsoles. Where are all the MMO games for the consoles. I could go on and on and this would go on forever. The fact of the matter is that the PC has just as much variety.

forza and gt weren't even out then and if you look at reader choices for game of the year, burnout revenge gained 57% while gtr2 only gained 13% of votes. compare one great driving game atm to forza, gran turismo, burnout. I love playing FPSs and RTSs on the PC but thats all i use it for cos thats the genres the PC cater to the mose. I don't play MMO but pc is extremely strong in that genre. Still life is on xbox, still life is an adventure game there are tons of adventure games on consoles. Indigo prophecy was on consoles. but by saying where are all the still life style games or mmo games, i could ask the same about platformers such as ratchet and clank and mario and conker. I could ask where are truly unique games like shadow of the colossus, okami or killer7. I don't know about you but i don't think i would want to occupy so much of my PCs hard drive with these different games. Im not gonna even talk about the money on spending on PCs cos quite frankly consoles are cheaper and easier, im not gonna go into massive details because with debates like these i have seen how PC fanboys counter that with "you can get a cheap but good computer for this much etc.". so what about when you have upgrade again in 2 or 3 years. I mean i upgraded for Far Cry but 3 years later my pc can't even run lost planet, company of heroes or even fear properly. Whereas i bought my ps2 in 2001, when i believe MGS2 came out, but i didnt have to spend extra to play God of war 2. Installing games, bugs for different computers etc. can get really frustrating. Really though it depends the type of games you like, i love japanese games and unique games (that are fun!) as well as shooters and action, rythm games are great too. I dont see high quality Pc versions of these games (except for shooters of course, best on pc, max payne ftw.)

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None of those reasons predict future ownage.
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forza and gt weren't even out then and if you look at reader choices for game of the year, burnout revenge gained 57% while gtr2 only gained 13% of votes. compare one great driving game atm to forza, gran turismo, burnout.Arjdagr8

It makes GTR2 less popular, not worse. Which isn't surprising. GTR2 is much more hardcore than any console racing game.
Still..doesn't change the fact that P


I love playing FPSs and RTSs on the PC but thats all i use it for cos thats the genres the PC cater to the mose.Arjdagr8



And consoles cater to sports and action games. THe rest of the genres are much less popular


still life is an adventure game there are tons of adventure games on consoles. Indigo prophecy was on consoles.Arjdagr8

So bassicaly all cnsoles have are few inferior ports from pc? Great. I guess there are tons of action-adventures and fighting games on PC using your logic

i could ask the same about platformers such as ratchet and clank and mario and conker.Arjdagr8

True, but in 2D platformers PC wins :)


I could ask where are truly unique games like shadow of the colossus, okami or killer7.Arjdagr8

Well..there's stuff like Darwinia, Defcon, Penumbram Petimeter and many more.

I don't know about you but i don't think i would want to occupy so much of my PCs hard drive with these different games.Arjdagr8

Depends on what you like. PC has every bit as much variety as consoles, just in diffrent genres


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#288 LinKuei_warrior
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hate PC controls...using a keyboard and moving mouse curser isnt my style..
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#289 Hot_Potato
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Not to mention the fact that consoles will probably never have the sort of install base in homes that PC's have.

But since you only seem to be pointing out the praises of PC's, let me point out a few negatives. The PC gets nowhere near as many games as consoles. The PC doesn't have as much variety as games on a console, (what's the last really great platformer you played on a PC???), & there are always issues of compatibility/bugginess/upgrading/expensive OS's etc with PC's.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here so that you all don't start patting yourselves on the back too much ;)

ColoradoKindBud

PC has almost 8,000 games listed on GS

PS2 has less than 3,000.

PC gets pretty much every genre except platformer and fighter

There's almost never compatibility issues unless you're a complete moron, and some computers could last for 3-4 years without and upgrade.

Expensive OS's? Now you're just pulling stuff out of your ass.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]Let's do some market research. Not using just one report, I'm considering an amalgamation of reports. One of the reports I used for the above posted information was using this, but I can't post it because it's © and GS will boot me if I do.This report analyzes the worldwide markets for Video Games in Millions of US$. The major product segments analyzed are Console, PC, Handheld, Online, and Wireless. Here's a page describing the forecastedsize of gaming in the U.S. compared to Asia: Asia-Pacific should remain the region with the highest overall spending on gaming during the period and reach $18.8 billion in 2011, PwC forecasts. Despite its leading size, its 10% average annual gains will only be exceeded by the combined region of Europe, the Middle East and Africa (EMEA), which is pegged for a 10.2% compound annual gain and is set to remain at No. 2 in terms of worldwide gaming. -Source Those are all primarily PC markets. Here's domestic sales of PC Games: In January-February 2007, domestic retail sales of PC games reached $203 mln, a 48% increase over the $136.8 mln in the period a year earlier, NPD Group says. - Source. That's two slow months. I'll try and find the holiday sales if I can. Right now let's make some assumptions: The number of PC users is expected to hit or exceed 1 billion by 2010, up from around 660 million to 670 million today, fueled primarily by new adopters in developing nations such as China, Russia and India. This number is misleading, as all users aren't gamers. However: Document output volume on printers and multifunction peripherals is alive and well in US PC-owning households, according to IDC. Nearly 66% of US households own PCs and these households have lots of computing power. In fact, the average number of PCs per PC-owning household is 1.5 and many of them have multiple hardcopy peripherals present in the home. So there are more PC users in Asia than there are people in the U.S. According to Forrester Research, 39% of Americans use their PC for playing games with that number predicted to increase to 44% by 2011. There are 300 million people in the U.S. 66% own PCs, and of that 66%, 39% use them for playing games. 66% of 300,000,000 means 198,000,000 in the U.S. own PCs. 39% of 198 Million = 77,220,000 PC gamers in the U.S. alone. Console sales over the past few years according to NPD data: US Console & Handheld Hardware Sales 1998 - $2.5 billion 1999 - $2.7 billion 2000 - $2.5 billion 2001 - $4.8 billion 2002 - $4.8 billion 2003 - $4.2 billion 2004 - $3.7 billion 2005 - $4.2 billion 2006 - $4.6 billion ($2.9 billion console + $1.7 billion handheld) Sony says that they sold ~100 million PS2s over it's lifetime, but that's world-wide. The data above says the PC nearly reaches that for gaming purposes in the U.S. alone. PC gaming is EVEN BIGGER in EMEA and Asia, remember this from above? Asia-Pacific should remain the region with the highest overall spending on gaming during the period and reach $18.8 billion in 2011, PwC forecasts. Unfortunately, the first report I provided above contains the best information, and again I can't post it because of © but it's there on that page ready to be purchased and read if you're so inclined.

Well ok.
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hate PC controls...using a keyboard and moving mouse curser isnt my style..LinKuei_warrior

You do know that you can use a controller.....

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Arent you the delusional one? You dont even know what game series hes refering to. ever since i came to this topic, i lost any respect hermits may have had from me. They almost seem worse than any fanboy out there. I dont see how anyone playing solitaire on their PC is considered a PC gamer, when no one buys a PC for that dumb game, and you dont have to buy solitaire. Alot of idiot opinions are on this topic, mainly from the hermits. JudgementEden
You do not have to constantly upgrade to get graphics on par with consoles the entire generation, nor is the PC lacking in any genre. The PC has just as much diversity as consoles. I mean, for every genre the PC "lacks" the consoles lack just as many. Wheres my FPA games, my MMO games, etc? In little supply on consoles. His only valid point was that the series he liked were on consoles. Thats an opinoin, so I let it slide.
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#295 Vandalvideo
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And some people prefer the genres consoles do best. All you do is shout "Misconception!" like some sort of deranged parrot whilst constantly touting ridiculous claims about how PC gaming does it all. Every gaming platform has its compromises, wake up to yourself.KirbyFan10101
PREFER, PREFER, PREFER. What is the common theme I keep seeing here? Opions. I deal in facts. The PC has every genre, and for every genre you say it "Lacks", the consoles lack just as many. I'm NOT saying the PC is better. I'm not saying my opinoin. I AM STATING FACTS.
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#297 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="KirbyFan10101"]And some people prefer the genres consoles do best. All you do is shout "Misconception!" like some sort of deranged parrot whilst constantly touting ridiculous claims about how PC gaming does it all. Every gaming platform has its compromises, wake up to yourself.KirbyFan10101

PREFER, PREFER, PREFER. What is the common theme I keep seeing here? Opions. I deal in facts. The PC has every genre, and for every genre you say it "Lacks", the consoles lack just as many. I'm NOT saying the PC is better. I'm not saying my opinoin. I AM STATING FACTS.

:roll:

I take your emoticon as nothing important to say? Let me reiterrate for everyone, I'm not saying PCs are better, I've NEVER said PCs are better.
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#299 Vandalvideo
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Nothing needs to be said. When anyone says anything remotely positive about consoles you take them by the thorat, and then you go on to claim objectivity.How embarassing.KirbyFan10101
No, its when they make misconceptions and bad claims is when I take them by the throat. I leave opinions alone.