Why SKYRIM does NOT deserve to be GOTY

[QUOTE="abonsabo"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... StrongDeadlift

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

For everyone saying that Skyrim has no glitches... You are defending a company that quite literally offered up a steaming pile of unplayable crap. All you have to do is go to bethsoft.com, Bethesda's website... and you'll see the list of over 120 of the well known bugs for the consoles and pc. Need proof? Here it is... and this is for the least glitchy of the two consoles... the Xbox 360. http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1298524-xbox-360-bug-report-topic/

All i heard was crying and bit6hing.

bugs hardly affect the over all experience.

[QUOTE="abonsabo"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... StrongDeadlift

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

The drinking quest....classic.

Why I personally think it doesn't deserve it:

1. Batman: Arkham City

That is all.

From what I played this year:

-Skyrim
-Batman AC
-Deus Ex
-Xenoblade
-Dark Souls

These are the contenders for GOTY in my eyes.

Why I personally think it doesn't deserve it:

1. Batman: Arkham City

That is all.

SPYDER0416

Why do people feel the need to bash a game they don't like? There are millions of people who loved Skyrim, so clearly you are in the minority. There is nothing wrong with that, just don't assume you opinion is the truth. For example, I couldn't care less about bugs in games, as long as they are not game-breaking, so Skyrim is great for me. Does that make me wrong?Belwar555

Comparing Skyrim to RDR/Infamous/GTA....Seriously?

Skyrim is hundred times more interactive than those games and has more detail than all three of them combined.

There are thousands....no,there must be hundreds of thousands of items in the game that you can pick.There are hundreds of monsters and bandits.

Skyrim makes other open-world games look like call of duty.

Skyrim GOTY Edition*

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*PS3 GOTY not included

Get stoned and/or drunk and you will see that it is one of the best games this generation.

ExplosiveChorro

TC maybe bi-polar and deranged.... but he is unprecedently right about this....

no game with these many bugs, some of them game-breaking should be so highly praised

Skyrim is the Gran Turismo 5 of RPGs. Tons of content, but 80% of it is mediocre :lol:

- Mediocre writing

- Bugs

- Unmemorable NPCs

- Bland Fighting

- Weak AI

- Inconsistent voice acting

- Poor animations

- Broken physics

- Bad UI (esp. on PC with a mouse)

- One of the versions is completely broken

- Generic quests and main story, many fetch quests

TC maybe bi-polar and deranged.... but he is unprecedently right about this....

no game with thses many bugs, some of them game-breaking should so highly praised

Zaibach

Indeed.

It's like Bethesda always gets a free pass....and they know it.

Comparing Skyrim to RDR/Infamous/GTA....Seriously?

Skyrim is hundred times more interactive than those games and has more detail than all three of them combined.

There are thousands....no,there must be hundreds of thousands of items in the game that you can pick.There are hundreds of monsters and bandits.

Skyrim makes other open-world games look like call of duty.

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Comparing Skyrim to RDR/Infamous/GTA....Seriously?

Skyrim is hundred times more interactive than those games and has more detail than all three of them combined.

There are thousands....no,there must be hundreds of thousands of items in the game that you can pick.There are hundreds of monsters and bandits.

Skyrim makes other open-world games look like call of duty.

drinkerofjuice

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Comparing Skyrim to RDR/Infamous/GTA....Seriously?

Skyrim is hundred times more interactive than those games and has more detail than all three of them combined.

There are thousands....no,there must be hundreds of thousands of items in the game that you can pick.There are hundreds of monsters and bandits.

Skyrim makes other open-world games look like call of duty.

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Comparing Skyrim to RDR/Infamous/GTA....Seriously?

Skyrim is hundred times more interactive than those games and has more detail than all three of them combined.

There are thousands....no,there must be hundreds of thousands of items in the game that you can pick.There are hundreds of monsters and bandits.

Skyrim makes other open-world games look like call of duty.

call_of_duty_10

What's the point in picking almost everything up when a ****ton of items can't be used seperately, or at times, not at all.

And this little bit:

"Do GTA/RDR have so many unique hand crafted dungeons?"

Well aside from the fact that the settings those two games carry make it impossible for them to have dungeons, do you honestly think there's a ton of uniquely designed dungeons in Skyrim? Stop fooling yourself please. Skyrim was a great improvement over Oblivion due to the fact that this time Bethesda didn't repeat the same three dungeon designs across hundreds of locations. But in terms of actual landscaping and architecture, the dungeons in Skyrim are extremely similar to each other.

Either you're seriously overestimating the detail Skyrim carries, or you're seriously underestimating the amount of detail housed in GTA4 and RDR.

skyrim should not be allowed to be GotY simply because it's a game in alpha. only you're charged $60 to play that alpha.BrunoBRS

It seems for the most part the people that are bashing Skyrim the most are the PS3 users.

I have played just over 100 hours and loving it. Seriously could you imagine how many bugs and glitches you would find in Uncharted after 100 hours?

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] More detailed than RDR and GTA combined? The **** are you smoking?drinkerofjuice

What's the point in picking almost everything up when a ****ton of items can't be used seperately, or at times, not at all.

And this little bit:

"Do GTA/RDR have so many unique hand crafted dungeons?"

Well aside from the fact that the settings those two games carry make it impossible for them to have dungeons, do you honestly think there's a ton of uniquely designed dungeons in Skyrim? Stop fooling yourself please. Skyrim was a great improvement over Oblivion due to the fact that this time Bethesda didn't repeat the same three dungeon designs across hundreds of locations. But in terms of actual landscaping and architecture, the dungeons in Skyrim are extremely similar to each other.

Either you're seriously overestimating the detail Skyrim carries, or you're seriously underestimating the amount of detail housed in GTA4 and RDR.

TC maybe bi-polar and deranged.... but he is unprecedently right about this....

no game with these many bugs, some of them game-breaking should be so highly praised

Zaibach

[QUOTE="abonsabo"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... StrongDeadlift

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

1) RDR bases itself around horses. They're how you get to places. They're also the focal point of the historical setting of the game. They HAVE to be very well-implemented. I've put in 200 hours in Skyrim and I don't use horses because I prefer to walk around on foot; try doing the same in RDR.

2) The Radiant quests, which will generate infinitely, are composed of fetch/kill quests; the sidequests and story quests are far more diverse and interesting.

The only bug I had was the random crashes. Thankfully my friend told me about the 4 gig patch and it's smooth now. Granted I'm only 30 hours into the game, but that is a long time to not experience all these bugs I keep hearing about (which nobody cares to point out exactly what the bugs are).

The only bug I had was the random crashes. Thankfully my friend told me about the 4 gig patch and it's smooth now. Granted I'm only 30 hours into the game, but that is a long time to not experience all these bugs I keep hearing about (which nobody cares to point out exactly what the bugs are).

Grawse

GOTY isn't a technical award.

[QUOTE="Cruxis27"]

Skyrim will win many, many awards. GOTY, RPGOTY, etc.

And when it does, this thread will be bumped, and you will look like a fool.

turtlethetaffer

RDR didn't deserve GOTY either, but look what happened with that.

Yes it did.

bugs seem to be blown out of all proportion, 20+ hours in, (which is more than most games) and i have zero bugs troubling me. sts106mat

So StrongDeadlift I see you got a copy of GeoW3 now I could be crazy but I'm actually interested in knowing what you think about it.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

TC maybe bi-polar and deranged.... but he is unprecedently right about this....

no game with these many bugs, some of them game-breaking should be so highly praised

princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

The only bug I had was the random crashes. Thankfully my friend told me about the 4 gig patch and it's smooth now. Granted I'm only 30 hours into the game, but that is a long time to not experience all these bugs I keep hearing about (which nobody cares to point out exactly what the bugs are).

princeofshapeir

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

TC maybe bi-polar and deranged.... but he is unprecedently right about this....

no game with these many bugs, some of them game-breaking should be so highly praised

Zaibach

[QUOTE="wolfbm"]"bu..bu..bu.....its teh massive world and scope of the game.".......Red Dead Redemption, L.A. Noire, Infamous 2. /arguement RDR was GOY so you fail on that criteria (also while I love RDR it was/still is full of bugs), secondly you hate the game so much (to where you surf th net rather than playing it) yet you have Skryim #2 in you now playing list for your signature..fail, and more importantly you have been making a butt load of these posts on here as of late dealing with basically the same topic (possibly trolling since your first shoulda been enough) but yet rather than trading your game in you still have it AND play it (see second point).sts106mat

The purpose of trolling is to present a barely thought out arguement StrongDeadlift

No, that's just what a sh*tty troll does.

And skyrim is terrible.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Please list some game-breaking bugs.princeofshapeir