Why SKYRIM does NOT deserve to be GOTY

Praise a game on release, hate it a few days later. The strongdeadlift way:lol:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Bethesda got the 360 and PC version running fine when it came out, while the PS3 version wasn't. Same thing happened with Fallout 3. Maybe it'll click for you that open world games just don't work on the PS3. It's very good at running movies however such as U2, U3, MGS4, etc.Da_lil_PimP

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="mitu123"] InFamous series says hi.;)

Goyoshi12

L.A. Noire? That's not even an open world game. :roll:

It is actually :|

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]So does Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire (and L.A. Noire dwarfs Skyrim in "teh massive scale" ;) )el3m2tigre

L.A. Noire? That's not even an open world game. :roll:

It is actually :|

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

L.A. Noire? That's not even an open world game. :roll:

Goyoshi12

It is actually :|

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It is actually :|

redskins26rocs

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

.........

I don't think I'm even going to enter into that territory. :?:|

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

L.A. Noire? That's not even an open world game. :roll:

Goyoshi12

It is actually :|

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

The world is actually quite larger than GTA IV. Not counting the large bodies of water.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

It is actually :|

el3m2tigre

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

The world is actually quite larger than GTA IV. Not counting the large bodies of water.

Well that's good and all but is it OPEN WORLD? You can visit all those places and what not is what I mean. If you can then...da @#$% have I been listening to? :?

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="mitu123"] InFamous series says hi.;)

mitu123

Also you've never played Skyrim on PC so why are you calling it a buggy mess?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Infamous? Oh you mean the game that constantly froze on me and was constantly under 30 fps, while having graphics that looked like they belonged on the PS2. Da_lil_PimP

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

By Christmas, most people will have forgotten about it.foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

L.A. Noire? That's not even an open world game. :roll:

Goyoshi12

It is actually :|

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

So you havent even played the game and your telling ME what the game I HAVE played it is ;) (Ive owned, beaten, and traded it in BTW)

It is a fully open world game. You can visit the entire map from the beginning of the game. The story progresses linearly (so does RDR, GTA4, Infamous 2) but it is an open world game. In fact, im pretty sure it has one of the largest maps in an open world game. The map was massive. The progression of the story means nothing. The game map is as fully open world as GTA/RDR. The only difference is that there is not much motivation/incentive to actually explore that world, because the game gives you the option to "fast travel" immediately to the next mission right from the start of the game, therefore nobody ever bothers to explore it.

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

What? I've heard word that's just a linear action adventure game. That's not extremely OPEN WORLD per se. :|

Goyoshi12

The world is actually quite larger than GTA IV. Not counting the large bodies of water.

Well that's good and all but is it OPEN WORLD? You can visit all those places and what not is what I mean. If you can then...da @#$% have I been listening to? :?

Yes it is, you are free to visit any place you'd like and do what ever you'd like, except kill pedestrians, since your a cop :|

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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

The world is actually quite larger than GTA IV. Not counting the large bodies of water.

el3m2tigre

Well that's good and all but is it OPEN WORLD? You can visit all those places and what not is what I mean. If you can then...da @#$% have I been listening to? :?

Yes it is, you are free to visit any place you'd like and do what ever you'd like, except kill pedestrians, since your a cop :|

@#$%ing liars...alright. I give up. I conceed! You have beaten me....:oops:

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Infamous? Oh you mean the game that constantly froze on me and was constantly under 30 fps, while having graphics that looked like they belonged on the PS2. Da_lil_PimP

Also you've never played Skyrim on PC so why are you calling it a buggy mess?

lol'd.

During my playthrough it has been significantly better at scope, exploration, general dungeoning and various combat-related mechanics than things like characters, character, dialog. narrative and the influencing thereof, which tends to be my main motivation for playing through an RPG. I appreciate the things it does well, but after 30 hours I find myself getting a bit bored with it. Going through the motions just traveling from one place to another and pressing A on various NPC's.

Maybe I'm just playing it wrong. Maybe I should read other people's impressions and focus on the quests and questlines that are deemed to be worthwhile. I'll say that the Companions questline is not great, aside from the one thing where wool falls in you...

The Pelagius Wing quest was pretty good. Things like that have been sparingly sprinkled around in the overworld. Could use more of that, but I suppose to some degree Bethesda wanted to maintain a general tone.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

What an obnoxious post. The game is broken, I can't play for 30 mins without having to stop. No game I have ever played was like this, of course it is Sony's fault:roll: Their stupid idea to have the game save every dead body and let it save continuously could have been prevented but nope, Sony's fault. Bethesda can't develop on consoles and they just don't give a s*** about the ps3, no I take that back they do care about ps3 owners money, they just don't care to give them an acceptable game.

And also the game isn't THAT good. Definitely no where near good enough to excuse the mountain of problems I get playing it.

Da_lil_PimP

That must also be why its STILL an unpolished game reguardless ;) (and on ALL systems)

But you know, for a game that ISNT unpolished, Bethesda sure seems to be making alot of press releases addressing the (apparently "nonexistant") issue.

RDR ran perfectly on PS3. Prolly the most polished game this gen. L.A. Nore, Infamous 2..... Im sure there are dosens of open world games I am leaving out that release a polished game.....I would have said Assassins Creed, but.....lol.

That is a poor excuse. Like I said, you people are abused housewives who will bend over and take it no matter what. They could have released the game in alpha code, and you would still have fanboys claiming nothing was wrong.....

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="mitu123"] You never played inFamous 2 have you?

mitu123

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Played the first one. Game was a boring as they come. Why would I want the second when it's worse?Da_lil_PimP

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"] This. Its not about them not liking the PS3 specifically, its just that they dont give a f*ck in general. They know people are going to snatch their game up on hype alone, which is why they released such a buggy game in the first place. Game companies have started treating their fanbases like abused housewives, and then know we are just going to bend over and take it like the b**ches we are. StrongDeadlift

That must also be why its STILL an unpolished game reguardless ;) (and on ALL systems)

But you know, for a game that ISNT unpolished, Bethesda sure seems to be making alot of press releases addressing the (apparently "nonexistant") issue.

RDR ran perfectly on PS3. Prolly the most polished game this gen. L.A. Nore, Infamous 2..... Im sure there are dosens of open world games I am leaving out that release a polished game.....I would have said Assassins Creed, but.....lol.

That is a poor excuse. Like I said, you people are abused housewives who will bend over and take it no matter what. They could have released the game in alpha code, and you would still have fanboys claiming nothing was wrong.....

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Played the first one. Game was a boring as they come. Why would I want the second when it's worse?Da_lil_PimP

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

When modders fix the game, only then it'll live up to the scores. And I would actually buy it.

I agree, because arkham city exists.

anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYcampzor

Why don't people call out dark souls then?

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How is the 2nd worse when it's actually better? Game runs fine, the graphics are a bigger leap and actually looks good, the combat and missions have improved, and no freezes yet. Even if you go by GS's scores, most who played the 2nd prefer it to the 1st.

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

wis3boi

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How is the 2nd worse when it's actually better? Game runs fine, the graphics are a bigger leap and actually looks good, the combat and missions have improved, and no freezes yet. Even if you go by GS's scores, most who played the 2nd prefer it to the 1st.

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

mitu123

When modders fix the game, only then it'll live up to the scores. And I would actually buy it.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Easy to find bugs if you just type it into Youtube. Do that for any game and you'll get videos. Seems like according to the hype thread and most other places, is that Skyrim plays fine with nothing game breaking. But whatever, you seem like someone who crys over everything. Can't believe you won't buy Skyrim because it has bugs yet you're playing GTA 4 on PC :roll:

Da_lil_PimP

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Easy to find bugs if you just type it into Youtube. Do that for any game and you'll get videos. Seems like according to the hype thread and most other places, is that Skyrim plays fine with nothing game breaking. But whatever, you seem like someone who crys over everything. Can't believe you won't buy Skyrim because it has bugs yet you're playing GTA 4 on PC :roll:

Da_lil_PimP

When modders fix the game, only then it'll live up to the scores. And I would actually buy it.

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How is the 2nd worse when it's actually better? Game runs fine, the graphics are a bigger leap and actually looks good, the combat and missions have improved, and no freezes yet. Even if you go by GS's scores, most who played the 2nd prefer it to the 1st.

And PC version of Skyrim has bugs, explain those patches and what's on youtube, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xCjK3BD6u4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u67hsPZoMBk

mitu123

When modders fix the game, only then it'll live up to the scores. And I would actually buy it.

I don't care how broken or mediocre it is. I play games to have fun, and quite honestly I've had 115 hours of pure enjoyment from playing skyrim so far.

I don't care that combat isn't the most developed, or the npc's are on a loop (I really thought the voice overs were good,) I don't care that a lot of the time I really don't care for the quests. I've been having a lot of fun, and besides the game breaking framerate problems on PS3, I don't really have any bones to pick with skyrim.

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] It's the "Perfectionist" generation....one bug discredits a game's purchase, didn't you hear? :Pmitu123

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Doubt Bethesda really cares. They got the reviews, got the sales, and when they release their next game, it'll be just as well received as Skyrim. Hopefully Sony learns to make a console that's easier to develop for. The only reason why you see so much hate is because the people who love it are playing it. The minority is always louder than the majority.Da_lil_PimP

What an obnoxious post. The game is broken, I can't play for 30 mins without having to stop. No game I have ever played was like this, of course it is Sony's fault:roll: Their stupid idea to have the game save every dead body and let it save continuously could have been prevented but nope, Sony's fault. Bethesda can't develop on consoles and they just don't give a s*** about the ps3, no I take that back they do care about ps3 owners money, they just don't care to give them an acceptable game.

And also the game isn't THAT good. Definitely no where near good enough to excuse the mountain of problems I get playing it.

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

What an obnoxious post. The game is broken, I can't play for 30 mins without having to stop. No game I have ever played was like this, of course it is Sony's fault:roll: Their stupid idea to have the game save every dead body and let it save continuously could have been prevented but nope, Sony's fault. Bethesda can't develop on consoles and they just don't give a s*** about the ps3, no I take that back they do care about ps3 owners money, they just don't care to give them an acceptable game.

And also the game isn't THAT good. Definitely no where near good enough to excuse the mountain of problems I get playing it.

AmazonTreeBoa

Get stoned and/or drunk and you will see that it is one of the best games this generation.

You're a bad person for saying that

Not an opinion

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] They want better everything with no bugs on release day. Some people. It's like my engineering class, they wanted less classes, start later, finish earlier and more breaks in between classes. We can't have everything.Da_lil_PimP

It doesn"t deserve it because its broken on the ps3, Its a really good game but we would be sending out a bad message that devs can release a product like this that is essntially broken and still recieve acolades

Still a very very god Game, the best I have played this gen, but yeah I agree

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] Bethesda got the 360 and PC version running fine when it came out, while the PS3 version wasn't. Same thing happened with Fallout 3. Maybe it'll click for you that open world games just don't work on the PS3. It's very good at running movies however such as U2, U3, MGS4, etc.Da_lil_PimP

It's so refreshing to hear some sense. I've played it, and it's a very pretty game, with a huge world, but that said, all your points are valid. It definitely does not deserve goty. On the other hand, the artform that deserved perfect 10s everywhere, SKYWARD SWORD deserves it, because it's actually a good game. Any rating lower than a 9 for Skyward Sword is pretty much fanboyism or doingitwrong.

Agreed. It's decent and has an impressive scale but doesn't really excel at any particular aspect and therefore doesn't deserve such a title. The fact that you can list all of the game's flaws and the usual argument you'll get in return is something utterly retarded like "lol you haven't played it!" is a testament to that fact. You will often hear the exact same crap when you say such things about Oblivion and Fallout 3 too.

Its my GOTY for sure.

anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYcampzor

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

[QUOTE="campzor"]anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYBallroompirate

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

Skyrim is the best game this year. With all the mods and replayability it's just ridiclous to call it not GOTY.