Why SKYRIM does NOT deserve to be GOTY

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYcampzor

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

A lot of games to this day specially the first few years of this gen had serious texture pop in's

Example Mass Effect had horrible texture pop in's from the start of the game to the end (360 version btw) but I still highly enjoyed it. WoW another game that had horrible glitches and bugs...

When you play a game or even review it, you look for the pros and cons of the game and you basically do a mental "does the pros out weigh the cons". A game the size of Skyrim will have bugs and glitches specially if the hardware is not really good to work with.

The more I read about Skyrim the more I feel it's Oblivion all over again. I fell into the hype of that one and oh boy did I regret. All of the bad things the TC is saying about Skyrim were true about Oblivion. Truly awful game. I'm glad I didn't buy Skyrim. Then again, I'm too busy playing BF3, wouldn't have time for it anyway.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

110 hours in and it still looks and runs as good as it did in the first minutes. Also zero glitches! I should be a lucky guy.

TheGuardian03

No, i didnt install the game nor i downloaded the last patch. I heard ppl got some odd bugs with it like dragons flying backwards lol

Still playing the 'original' version and i´ll keep it that way, for now, at least until i have a serious glitch.

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]BTW: Why does a game with bugs not deserve GOTY? :?Jynxzor

What I find amuzing is that the PC gets a lot of flak for buggy games but then certain franchises like this one get a free pass, even by consolites. I don't remember hearing consolites say "it's ok that ARMA2 has bugs, it's still a great accomplishment", quite the opposite really.

[QUOTE="campzor"]anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYBallroompirate

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]anything thats infested with bugs/glitches should have no chance at GOTYmitu123

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

Thats funny playing the 360 and PS3 version of Skyrim I've yet encountered a game breaking bug, of course I've seen glitches but not bugs. Also spent two hours last week watching a friend play the PC version while I ate wendys and he only experienced skyrim crashing to the desktop twice.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

You pretty much listed 9/10 games, theres a saying "no game is perfect". You look at any goty at any site it will have some sort of flaw, but like I said the sheer amount of stuff you can do in Skyrim is amazing and thats why people love it and not to mention the landscape in Skyrim is just bad ***

Ballroompirate

Thats funny playing the 360 and PS3 version of Skyrim I've yet encountered a game breaking bug, of course I've seen glitches but not bugs. Also spent two hours last week watching a friend play the PC version while I ate wendys and he only experienced skyrim crashing to the desktop twice.

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1212511p1.html

1st video shows that they are stuck at the beginning of the game, meaning they have to start over again, ROFL. Find me another 9/10 game like that.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How many of those 9/10 games have game breaking bugs that ruin the whole game and even have a bug that prevents you from completing the 1st objective?

mitu123

Thats funny playing the 360 and PS3 version of Skyrim I've yet encountered a game breaking bug, of course I've seen glitches but not bugs. Also spent two hours last week watching a friend play the PC version while I ate wendys and he only experienced skyrim crashing to the desktop twice.

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1212511p1.html

1st video shows that they are stuck at the beginning of the game, meaning they have to start over again, ROFL. Find me another 9/10 game like that.

World of Warcraft still to this day has glitches and bugs

Mass Effect didn't have bugs but it had horrible texture pop in's through out the game

Red Dead Redemption had some bad glitches,bugs and texture pop in's

Fallout NV has some bad glitches and bugs specially on the PS3 version

and quoting from you "Your experience isn't the same for everyone", I ask you to take your own advice since not everyone has a game breaking bug in Skyrim.

1st video shows that they are stuck at the beginning of the game, meaning they have to start over again, ROFL. Find me another 9/10 game like that.mitu123

I've play only like 60 hours of the 360 version and have only had one bad glitch which was just a broken side quest. Did the game get worse or did everyone get the PS3 version? chaoz-king

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

Thats funny playing the 360 and PS3 version of Skyrim I've yet encountered a game breaking bug, of course I've seen glitches but not bugs. Also spent two hours last week watching a friend play the PC version while I ate wendys and he only experienced skyrim crashing to the desktop twice.

Ballroompirate

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1212511p1.html

1st video shows that they are stuck at the beginning of the game, meaning they have to start over again, ROFL. Find me another 9/10 game like that.

World of Warcraft still to this day has glitches and bugs

Mass Effect didn't have bugs but it had horrible texture pop in's through out the game

Red Dead Redemption had some bad glitches,bugs and texture pop in's

Fallout NV has some bad glitches and bugs specially on the PS3 version

and quoting from you "Your experience isn't the same for everyone", I ask you to take your own advice since not everyone has a game breaking bug in Skyrim.

Yep, that's the point of my post, but at least the game does have game breaking bugs, you can't deny that when people experienced them. Some quests just don't work from what I heard though it varies on the person, that's game breaking bro.

And you still haven't shown me another 9/10 game where you can't beat the 1st objective of the game due to a game breaking bug.

How many of those glitches made those games unplayable? I have played WOW, Mass Effect and RDR and they weren't unplayable to me, had problems, but unplayable due to something specific, nope. BTW I've beaten Mass Effect and RDR.

Yep, that's the point of my post, but at least the game does have game breaking bugs, you can't deny that when people experienced them. Some quests just don't work from what I heard though it varies on the person, that's game breaking bro.

mitu123

And you still haven't shown me another 9/10 game where you can't beat the 1st objective of the game due to a game breaking bug.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How many of those glitches made those games unplayable? I have played WOW, Mass Effect and RDR and they weren't unplayable to me, had problems, but unplayable due to something specific, nope. BTW I've beaten Mass Effect and RDR.

Yep, that's the point of my post, but at least the game does have game breaking bugs, you can't deny that when people experienced them. Some quests just don't work from what I heard though it varies on the person, that's game breaking bro.

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

And you still haven't shown me another 9/10 game where you can't beat the 1st objective of the game due to a game breaking bug.

Am_Confucius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9JjmZq11d8

Name another 9/10 game that doesn't let you beat the 1st objective.

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

And you still haven't shown me another 9/10 game where you can't beat the 1st objective of the game due to a game breaking bug.

mitu123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9JjmZq11d8

Name another 9/10 game that doesn't let you beat the 1st objective.

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] How many of those glitches made those games unplayable? I have played WOW, Mass Effect and RDR and they weren't unplayable to me, had problems, but unplayable due to something specific, nope. BTW I've beaten Mass Effect and RDR.

Yep, that's the point of my post, but at least the game does have game breaking bugs, you can't deny that when people experienced them. Some quests just don't work from what I heard though it varies on the person, that's game breaking bro.

mitu123

Cows are in a state of serious damage control

Skyrim is one of the best games I've ever played.... except on Ps3 :lol:

Cows are in a state of serious damage control

Skyrim is one of the best games I've ever played.... except on Ps3 :lol:

abonsabo

Says the guy that has made 20 plus threadswith the same junk he keeps on shoving down people's throats.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] What is this I don't even.Am_Confucius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9JjmZq11d8

Name another 9/10 game that doesn't let you beat the 1st objective.

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] Skyrim isn't unplayable... I have played the game for 55 hours, and I haven't encountered a single bug that breaks a quest or has a negative impact on my experience. I have only noticed some amusing oddities, such as finding 2 identical "unique artifacts".

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Someone hasn't watched this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9JjmZq11d8

Name another 9/10 game that doesn't let you beat the 1st objective.

mitu123

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

Game only stinks on PS3 :lol:

GOTY, stay mad.

Ive played 85 hours and only 2 crashes, got a ton of mods on to.

Better performance then any of Bethesdas others games imo.

Cows are in a state of serious damage control

Skyrim is one of the best games I've ever played.... except on Ps3 :lol:

abonsabo

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] How common do you think this is to start with? This is a rare bug and all he had to do was to restart. This was the first 30 seconds of the game, so... And if it doesn't matter how uncommon it is, there are probably plentu of AAA-games with something similar.abonsabo

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

Game only stinks on PS3 :lol:

[QUOTE="abonsabo"]

Cows are in a state of serious damage control

Skyrim is one of the best games I've ever played.... except on Ps3 :lol:

StrongDeadlift

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] How common do you think this is to start with? This is a rare bug and all he had to do was to restart. This was the first 30 seconds of the game, so... And if it doesn't matter how uncommon it is, there are probably plentu of AAA-games with something similar.abonsabo

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

Game only stinks on PS3 :lol:

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"][QUOTE="abonsabo"]

Cows are in a state of serious damage control

Skyrim is one of the best games I've ever played.... except on Ps3 :lol:

abonsabo

You must be a Dark Souls fan then.

Game runs perfectly on my 360 ;)

GOTG

You must be a Dark Souls fan then.

Game runs perfectly on my 360 ;)

GOTG

abonsabo

You must be a Dark Souls fan then.

Game runs perfectly on my 360 ;)

GOTG

abonsabo

Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... StrongDeadlift

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... abonsabo

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

[QUOTE="abonsabo"]

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]Its not even just about the bugs, its just the overall lack of polish in general that ALL of bethesda's games tend to have, including Skyrim. Its like, if you go near rocks, you can see where part of the texture is missing, and that its hollow underneath, and you can just tell they just incoherently dragged and dropped assets into the map randomly and called it a day, without putting any thought into it. I noticed this alot in Fallout New Vegas as well. There were alot of spots where if you go up to mountains or pass by rocks (and no, you dont have to be TRYING to look for things like this) you can see where it is hollow underneath and a big part of the texture is missing. When I first got Skyrim, within the first few hours I came across a river with a 30-40 foot section of the water missing. The water is just a flat texture anyways, but there was a big portion of the lake missing, and you could see where the water texture just randomly stopped, and then continued 30 feet away leaving a 30 foot gap where part of the river was supposed to be. The funny part is.....if you go into the lake, he STILL does the swimming animation while floating in mid air because water was supposed to be there. God fanboys are so delusional. I understand that you dont care about the glitches, or that it hasnt hampered your experience, but I will never understand the people who defend and deny it to the ends of the earth like it doesnt even exist at all, some even lash out on me, calling me a "hater" :roll:. Obviously there is a large amount of people who think the same thing as me...... StrongDeadlift

Dude you can't expect a game with the size and scope of Skyrim not to have it's quirks

If you want a game that runs perfectly buy a linear cooridor title that lasts 7 hours

I'll stick with my epic 100 hour plus godly Skyrim, one of the biggest, best and most ambitious titles ever made.

Your comparing Open world action games where the population basically walk around like mindless drones to a complex RPG in a living and breathing world where you can interact with every character in the game. There's your first mistake, and those games are not without their bugs. Every area of Skyrim is playable and you can go inside all dungeons and houses, castles ect. While in open world action games nearly everything is closed off. It's a tradeoff.

RDR is basically based on horse riding. That's only a tiny element of the vast complexity of Skyrim.

A game as buggy as Skyrim should not be allowed to win any GOTY award. Its pretty ridiculous that its even in the running.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] wait....they have movies of those games? Or is this another case of some DUMBASS not being able to tell the difference between a game and a movie?AmazonTreeBoa

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] I always enjoy the dumbass "insult". It reminds of the kid that can't think of anything to say, but he HAS to say something. However, when he does, it's just utterly pathetic ;)

Da_lil_PimP

wait this thread is about skyrim and here we have a conversation about uncharted..wowzer

Skyrim should be nominated.

There has been awesome games this year lets not forgot.

No way should Skyward Sword get nominated.

Looks of games that are 8/10 that should.. eg Deus Ex, Assassins Creed etc

I have yet to play an AAA game like that in my near 24 years of my life. Which is why I want names of games.

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I have yet to play an AAA game like that in my near 24 years of my life. Which is why I want names of games.

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I have yet to play an AAA game like that in my near 24 years of my life. Which is why I want names of games.

And even as a rare bug it's game breaking, he can't go on to do the next playthrough. A bug like this is inexcusable especially for a 2011 game and could happen again though it's not always guaranteed thankfully, still annoying.

I would never defend anything like that.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] Once again, you can just reload the game. :|

Am_Confucius