Why the PS3 is a more powerful system that the 360 from a techincal standpoint

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

it's been common knowledge since the specs of both consoles were announced that the ps3 is more powerful. but get this sherlock, more power doesn't mean better games or guarantee success. funny how the 360 has a better library of titles and the wii, a technically inferior, is outselling both of them.my_name_is_ron

Lets get this straight 'sherlock'...The 360 doesnt have a better library than the PS3. It just arrived before the PS3. Quantity doesnt = quality. Bald space marines and GT wannabes dont count as 'better' titles. Besides, this thread is not about sales. If you want to talk about sales, start another thread on your own. Seriously

the theme of your thread is common knowledge. it's quite clear that the ps3 is better technically than the 360. but evidently power and technology isn't everything when picking out a console. if it was then the dreamcast would have done well. it's about the games, which the 360 has more of. even if you completely ignore the fact that there are more highly rated games for the 360 than for the ps3. of course that doesn't mean that a ps3 is completely redundant. there are some good games on it but not as many as there are for the 360. it did come out a year before the ps3 but sony have promised so much in the way of big titles in the last 18 months and what do they have to show for it? mgs 4. that's it.

uncharted, resistence, motorstorm, ratchet & clank, heavenly sword are also worth a mention.

While that is interesting, there is a lot more than just processor bandwidth that defines a console's power. I admit I haven't been looking, but I haven't seen a damn thing about CPU FSB, CPU cache, or GPU pixel pipelines.famicommander

Ok sure. We all know that theres a lot more than processor bandwith etc. But you gotta admit, the PS3 is a beast technically. It pwns the 360 IMO. the games, and user satisfaction is all relative and depends on consumer preferences:|

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?

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the theme of your thread is common knowledge. it's quite clear that the ps3 is better technically than the 360. but evidently power and technology isn't everything when picking out a console. if it was then the dreamcast would have done well. it's about the games, which the 360 has more of. even if you completely ignore the fact that there are more highly rated games for the 360 than for the ps3. of course that doesn't mean that a ps3 is completely redundant. there are some good games on it but not as many as there are for the 360. it did come out a year before the ps3 but sony have promised so much in the way of big titles in the last 18 months and what do they have to show for it? mgs 4. that's it.

uncharted, resistence, motorstorm, ratchet & clank, heavenly sword are also worth a mention.

superferret2029

Dude the PS3 JUST came out. give it time. Besides, the so called better games involve bald space marines and GT wannabes. If thats your idea of hot then stick to it. 360 titles suck IMO. This thread like I said before clearly outlines PS3's PWNage. Simply put, PS3 is the most powerful game console out there yall

The PS3 is a more powerful system, but the xbox 360 will produce better graphics. It has a higher fill-rate and can display more polygons.

The PS3 is better at number-crunching. It is basically a supercomputer, but that does NOT mean that it can produce amazing graphics. The Xbox 360 is designed purely for gaming, and the choice of a high-end graphics card really payed off for Microsoft.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

the theme of your thread is common knowledge. it's quite clear that the ps3 is better technically than the 360. but evidently power and technology isn't everything when picking out a console. if it was then the dreamcast would have done well. it's about the games, which the 360 has more of. even if you completely ignore the fact that there are more highly rated games for the 360 than for the ps3. of course that doesn't mean that a ps3 is completely redundant. there are some good games on it but not as many as there are for the 360. it did come out a year before the ps3 but sony have promised so much in the way of big titles in the last 18 months and what do they have to show for it? mgs 4. that's it.

uncharted, resistence, motorstorm, ratchet & clank, heavenly sword are also worth a mention.

Makari

Dude the PS3 JUST came out. give it time. Besides, the so called better games involve bald space marines and GT wannabes. If thats your idea of hot then stick to it. 360 titles suck IMO. This thread like I said before clearly outlines PS3's PWNage. Simply put, PS3 is the most powerful game console out there yall

Yes that is exactly right. The PS3 is more powerful, but it just isn't well designed for gaming.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

the theme of your thread is common knowledge. it's quite clear that the ps3 is better technically than the 360. but evidently power and technology isn't everything when picking out a console. if it was then the dreamcast would have done well. it's about the games, which the 360 has more of. even if you completely ignore the fact that there are more highly rated games for the 360 than for the ps3. of course that doesn't mean that a ps3 is completely redundant. there are some good games on it but not as many as there are for the 360. it did come out a year before the ps3 but sony have promised so much in the way of big titles in the last 18 months and what do they have to show for it? mgs 4. that's it.

uncharted, resistence, motorstorm, ratchet & clank, heavenly sword are also worth a mention.

superferret2029

Dude the PS3 JUST came out. give it time. Besides, the so called better games involve bald space marines and GT wannabes. If thats your idea of hot then stick to it. 360 titles suck IMO. This thread like I said before clearly outlines PS3's PWNage. Simply put, PS3 is the most powerful game console out there yall

yep, and look where being the most powerful has got it. 3rd in a race of 3. i think the ps3 will get better but it really should have a better range of decent exclusive titles 18 months into it's life. it's the exclusives that make gamers decide on what console to get if they can't afford more than one and the 360 has a larger range of highly acclaimed exclusives than ps3. i do have both and have been playing on my ps3 tonight but i still prefer the xbox because it has more games for me to play. simple.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

lolkie_81

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?

Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.

360 is a good console, yes the ps3 is powerful. The only problem I find with the 360 is the RROD,If it wasnt for that I would have a 360, I might get the 60gb one though.

The PS3 is a more powerful system, but the xbox 360 will produce better graphics. It has a higher fill-rate and can display more polygons.

The PS3 is better at number-crunching. It is basically a supercomputer, but that does NOT mean that it can produce amazing graphics. The Xbox 360 is designed purely for gaming, and the choice of a high-end graphics card really payed off for Microsoft.

bungie93

Yes, microsoft made the right choice. The PS3 cost almost 2 times more to produce than the 360. The $$/performance ratio for the ps3 is not good at all..

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

my_name_is_ron

yep, and look where being the most powerful has got it. 3rd in a race of 3. i think the ps3 will get better but it really should have a better range of decent exclusive titles 18 months into it's life. it's the exclusives that make gamers decide on what console to get if they can't afford more than one and the 360 has a larger range of highly acclaimed exclusives than ps3. i do have both and have been playing on my ps3 tonight but i still prefer the xbox because it has more games for me to play. simple.

3rd in the race of 3? where did you get those numbers from? PS3 outsells the 360 EVERY month besides being more expensive. Youre just looking at the total number of consoles sold which doesnt really count since the PS3 came out much later than the 360. Oh BTW if the titles for the 360 are so hot and the PS3 has only a 'few' good titles going for it, how come the PS3 keeps outselling 360 every month? Whats that you say? SHortages? LOLZ

When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lessflazzle

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

the theme of your thread is common knowledge. it's quite clear that the ps3 is better technically than the 360. but evidently power and technology isn't everything when picking out a console. if it was then the dreamcast would have done well. it's about the games, which the 360 has more of. even if you completely ignore the fact that there are more highly rated games for the 360 than for the ps3. of course that doesn't mean that a ps3 is completely redundant. there are some good games on it but not as many as there are for the 360. it did come out a year before the ps3 but sony have promised so much in the way of big titles in the last 18 months and what do they have to show for it? mgs 4. that's it.

uncharted, resistence, motorstorm, ratchet & clank, heavenly sword are also worth a mention.

bungie93

Dude the PS3 JUST came out. give it time. Besides, the so called better games involve bald space marines and GT wannabes. If thats your idea of hot then stick to it. 360 titles suck IMO. This thread like I said before clearly outlines PS3's PWNage. Simply put, PS3 is the most powerful game console out there yall

Yes that is exactly right. The PS3 is more powerful, but it just isn't well designed for gaming.

Yeah. and the 360 has excellent titles. the hardware just wasnt designed to last long before RRoD eat it up LOLz. Games without hardware = garbage. typical lemming talk

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?

Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.

This is honestly one of the stupidest post I have seen on System Wars, and that is saying something. The 8800GTX is NOT a dual core processor. It is a video card with one GPU. Secondly, it is much more powerful than the RSX in the PS3.I could go on and on about why your wrong, but it's clear that you have absolutely no clue what your talking about. This is why I hate talking about technology on System Wars.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?

Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.

Wait........I thought I said in my post I didnt know S*** about hardware, I never claimed to. BTw i heard the gpu in the ps3 is equal to a 7 seris. When some people that actually know what they are talking about get in this tread you will be owned HARD.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

superferret2029

yep, and look where being the most powerful has got it. 3rd in a race of 3. i think the ps3 will get better but it really should have a better range of decent exclusive titles 18 months into it's life. it's the exclusives that make gamers decide on what console to get if they can't afford more than one and the 360 has a larger range of highly acclaimed exclusives than ps3. i do have both and have been playing on my ps3 tonight but i still prefer the xbox because it has more games for me to play. simple.

3rd in the race of 3? where did you get those numbers from? PS3 outsells the 360 EVERY month besides being more expensive. Youre just looking at the total number of consoles sold which doesnt really count since the PS3 came out much later than the 360. Oh BTW if the titles for the 360 are so hot and the PS3 has only a 'few' good titles going for it, how come the PS3 keeps outselling 360 every month? Whats that you say? SHortages? LOLZ

because only now is the ps3 beginning to show any of its potential and it's getting some ok titles. also because of price cuts people are more prepared to fork out their money for one. microsoft are a bit short on the ground for new big game announcements and the momentum is with the playstation. but for me, when i own both consoles i'm only going to be bothered by what's already in my collection and in my collection i have 3 ps3 games and 10 360 games which means i get more enjoyment out of the 360 and therefore feel the 360 is better.

[QUOTE="flazzle"]When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lesssuperferret2029

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

LMAO.

You just made a new account to troll. Why would anyone believe you when you say that you have all three systems. Anyone with all three systems say that the PS3 and Xbox 360 are almost indentical in graphical power.

The PS3 is a more powerful system, but the xbox 360 will produce better graphics. It has a higher fill-rate and can display more polygons.

The PS3 is better at number-crunching. It is basically a supercomputer, but that does NOT mean that it can produce amazing graphics. The Xbox 360 is designed purely for gaming, and the choice of a high-end graphics card really payed off for Microsoft.

bungie93

Dude you dont even know what youre saying. polygons are basically number crunching. what century do you live in. the Cell is not "basically a supercomputer". Its a (pay attention) SCALABLE ARCHITECTURE with an emphasis on image processing.... oh by the way. the Cell is basically a souped up and upgraded PowerPC. the regular powerPC is in the 360 so saying the Cell wasnt meant for gaming basically implies the 360 wasnt meant for gaming.:lol:

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[QUOTE="flazzle"]When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lessbungie93

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

LMAO.

You just made a new account to troll. Why would anyone believe you when you say that you have all three systems. Anyone with all three systems say that the PS3 and Xbox 360 are almost indentical in graphical power.

Its becoming clear this is a troll tread.

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lesssuperferret2029

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

LMAO.

You just made a new account to troll. Why would anyone believe you when you say that you have all three systems. Anyone with all three systems say that the PS3 and Xbox 360 are almost indentical in graphical power.

Not trolling. Oh and they are NOT almost identical in graphical power. get this: the PS3 has a higher potential. right now the games look similar but since the PS3 has a higher potential for graphics, it will take longer to max out its graphical muscle meaning in a few years playing 360 will feel like your playing pong so MS would have to lose billions in R&D and deployment of another console just to keep up with the PS3. FUTURE PROOF yall

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

bungie93

This is honestly one of the stupidest post I have seen on System Wars, and that is saying something. The 8800GTX is NOT a dual core processor. It is a video card with one GPU. Secondly, it is much more powerful than the RSX in the PS3.I could go on and on about why your wrong, but it's clear that you have absolutely no clue what your talking about. This is why I hate talking about technology on System Wars.

Please reread my post. I did not say Dual core. I said dual processor (two processors on one graphics board... havent you heard of a dual processor graphics card? or crossfire configuration? GUESS NOT

[QUOTE="flazzle"]When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lesssuperferret2029

The only thing PS3 does better than 360 is make empty promises and make their consumers wait and wait and wait.

When I think of 360, I think of Halo 3, Gears of War, a 60 frame rate Madden.

When i think of PS3, all i can think of is a flash in the pan Resistance fall of man, a disappointing Lair game, a 'its about time' good game of MGS4, and forever delayed Home and Little Boring Planet. Yep. SUPER powerful PS3...

I will hand it to Sony though for thinking up Trophies on their own. If they called them achievements then that would have been a rip off.

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

The PS3 is a more powerful system, but the xbox 360 will produce better graphics. It has a higher fill-rate and can display more polygons.

The PS3 is better at number-crunching. It is basically a supercomputer, but that does NOT mean that it can produce amazing graphics. The Xbox 360 is designed purely for gaming, and the choice of a high-end graphics card really payed off for Microsoft.

bungie93

Not picking sides, but to further diversify this; the ps2 was the console which could handle the most polygons last gen, but the graphics weren't aided by this.

These threads are circular.... all we have is hearsay, assumptions and limitless bickering because nobody can prove anything.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]When is Sony going to use that power and make games better than the 360? Otherwise, its pretty embarrasing to have more and give lessflazzle

The only thing PS3 does better than 360 is make empty promises and make their consumers wait and wait and wait.

When I think of 360, I think of Halo 3, Gears of War, a 60 frame rate Madden.

When i think of PS3, all i can think of is a flash in the pan Resistance fall of man, a disappointing Lair game, a 'its about time' good game of MGS4, and forever delayed Home and Little Boring Planet. Yep. SUPER powerful PS3...

I will hand it to Sony though for thinking up Trophies on their own. If they called them achievements then that would have been a rip off.

yeah sure 'better' than the 360. LOLZ! you clearly dont even own a PS3 so how would you even know if the games are better or not? typical lemming. I own all consoles so I know for a fact the PS3 Pwns the 360 games and graphics wise

what do you actually want to discuss in this thread? you made all the statements in your first post and they're all true. it's well known that the ps3 has more power than the 360 so why make this thread? it seems to me you're just looking for an argumentmy_name_is_ron

Not really looking for an agrument. I was only stating well known facts. People just bring up other factors like games. I have all three consoles. Besides theres nothing wrong with the 360. Personally, they are both very capable and they have a long way to go since they have a lot of raw power in them. It pretty much comes down to the game title preference of respective consumers. Thats all.

If i state that the PS3 is more powerful in terms of raw computing power, it shouldnt draw all these angry lemmings comparing apples to oranges lol

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

I beleive the PS3 was released a full year later on? Ain't that a big gap for technologie?

[QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

Bebi_vegeta

I beleive the PS3 was released a full year later on? Ain't that a big gap for technologie?

True

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

superferret2029

This is honestly one of the stupidest post I have seen on System Wars, and that is saying something. The 8800GTX is NOT a dual core processor. It is a video card with one GPU. Secondly, it is much more powerful than the RSX in the PS3.I could go on and on about why your wrong, but it's clear that you have absolutely no clue what your talking about. This is why I hate talking about technology on System Wars.

Please reread my post. I did not say Dual core. I said dual processor (two processors on one graphics board... havent you heard of a dual processor graphics card? or crossfire configuration? GUESS NOT

Your still wrong. 8800 GTX does not have two cores. Crossfire and SLI are for two independent graphics cards. The only cards that have two cores are Nvidia #### GX2 and ATI #### X2 cards. Nvidia does not make an 8800 GX2. I'm sorry, but your just dead wrong.

[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

bam706

Madden barely taxes both consoles. They can run much much more taxing titles than that which will happen in the future. In fact, madden09s frame rate was capped at 60fps just because anything more than 60 sustained usually makes some players get nauseated. standard industry protocol

[QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

Bebi_vegeta

I beleive the PS3 was released a full year later on? Ain't that a big gap for technologie?

The PS3's graphics card was over a year old when the PS3 was released. That means the main bottleneck on video performane was the weakest part of the PS3. It was just a horrible design desicison on Sony's part.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]what do you actually want to discuss in this thread? you made all the statements in your first post and they're all true. it's well known that the ps3 has more power than the 360 so why make this thread? it seems to me you're just looking for an argumentsuperferret2029

Not really looking for an agrument. I was only stating well known facts. People just bring up other factors like games. I have all three consoles. Besides theres nothing wrong with the 360. Personally, they are both very capable and they have a long way to go since they have a lot of raw power in them. It pretty much comes down to the game title preference of respective consumers. Thats all.

If i state that the PS3 is more powerful in terms of raw computing power, it shouldnt draw all these angry lemmings comparing apples to oranges lol

but making statements with no discussion potential isn't really the point of message boards. especially systemwars. you raise no questions in your first post meaning that any responses you receive will either be agreeing or disagreeing with you

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

bungie93

I beleive the PS3 was released a full year later on? Ain't that a big gap for technologie?

The PS3's graphics card was over a year old when the PS3 was released. That means the main bottleneck on video performane was the weakest part of the PS3. It was just a horrible design desicison on Sony's part.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

Please reread my post. I did not say Dual core. I said dual processor (two processors on one graphics board... havent you heard of a dual processor graphics card? or crossfire configuration? GUESS NOT

bungie93

Your still wrong. 8800 GTX does not have two cores. Crossfire and SLI are for two independent graphics cards. The only cards that have two cores are Nvidia #### GX2 and ATI #### X2 cards. Nvidia does not make an 8800 GX2. I'm sorry, but your just dead wrong.

Dude, I did not say it had two cores. DO you even read my post? Cores are two processor in one chip. This is two seperate processors in two seperate chips on the same piece of silicon. look it up. if you need help i can link it for you:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/processors/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208404116

That link shows that dual processor graphics cards are common place. Really, google it

[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

Please reread my post. I did not say Dual core. I said dual processor (two processors on one graphics board... havent you heard of a dual processor graphics card? or crossfire configuration? GUESS NOT

superferret2029

Your still wrong. 8800 GTX does not have two cores. Crossfire and SLI are for two independent graphics cards. The only cards that have two cores are Nvidia #### GX2 and ATI #### X2 cards. Nvidia does not make an 8800 GX2. I'm sorry, but your just dead wrong.

Dude, I did not say it had two cores. DO you even read my post? Cores are two processor in one chip. This is two seperate processors in two seperate chips on the same piece of silicon. look it up. if you need help i can link it for you:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/processors/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208404116

That link shows that dual processor graphics cards are common place. Really, google it

Just give up. You don't know what your talking about.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

Dude, I did not say it had two cores. DO you even read my post? Cores are two processor in one chip. This is two seperate processors in two seperate chips on the same piece of silicon. look it up. if you need help i can link it for you:

http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/processors/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208404116

That link shows that dual processor graphics cards are common place. Really, google it

bungie93

Just give up. You don't know what your talking about.

lol and thats how lemmings end a conversation when they are clueless:D. Facts man, all in the facts.

why dont everybody enjoys the console that they own.....

and theres really NO difference in gfxs in multiplatform games lately...look at DMC4, COD4, Burnout Paradise, Battlefield BC, condemned 2, Assassins Creed, dragon ball z, Grid, GTA IV, hulk, iron man...they all look the same

the only time that you will notice a difference will be in exclusives....and thats it

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

my_name_is_ron

yep, and look where being the most powerful has got it. 3rd in a race of 3. i think the ps3 will get better but it really should have a better range of decent exclusive titles 18 months into it's life. it's the exclusives that make gamers decide on what console to get if they can't afford more than one and the 360 has a larger range of highly acclaimed exclusives than ps3. i do have both and have been playing on my ps3 tonight but i still prefer the xbox because it has more games for me to play. simple.

3rd in the race of 3? where did you get those numbers from? PS3 outsells the 360 EVERY month besides being more expensive. Youre just looking at the total number of consoles sold which doesnt really count since the PS3 came out much later than the 360. Oh BTW if the titles for the 360 are so hot and the PS3 has only a 'few' good titles going for it, how come the PS3 keeps outselling 360 every month? Whats that you say? SHortages? LOLZ

because only now is the ps3 beginning to show any of its potential and it's getting some ok titles. also because of price cuts people are more prepared to fork out their money for one. microsoft are a bit short on the ground for new big game announcements and the momentum is with the playstation. but for me, when i own both consoles i'm only going to be bothered by what's already in my collection and in my collection i have 3 ps3 games and 10 360 games which means i get more enjoyment out of the 360 and therefore feel the 360 is better.

what does games and sales have to do with this thread he is talking about the power of the ps3 jeez talk about lemmings.

[QUOTE="superferret2029"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="superferret2029"]

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

lolkie_81

As we all know, the Power PC RISC architecture expired from the Mac scene a while back when Apple decided to start using Intel processors. Somehow, Micro$oft thought it would be hot to include a dinosaur in their console. Even though the cell and power PC processors were both devd by IBM, the cell is the replacement for the Power PC. Oh BTW check these links out, youll notice that the peak bandwith for the X360s processor is a joke compared to the Cell's bandwith

XB360 peak bandwith: 21.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877385,00.asp)

PS3 Cell peak bandwith: 300Gb/sec (200Gb/sec sustained) and Chipset bandwith: 25.6Gb/sec PROOF: (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1877979,00.asp)

superferret2029

Why the new account? I thought graphics depended on the gpu, dosent the 360 have a better gpu? Was the cell designed for use in gaming consoles? What is all that peak bandwith going to do. What is the advantage of it? How do we know the 360 cpu is not better for gaming as that is what it was designed for? The thing is 99% of people on SW dont know s***, myself included. If you cant answer any of those questions why did you make this tread?

Dude you are clearly clueless about the hardware. stick to arguing about games. I for one, know for a fact that the PS3's GPU is better and faster than the Xenos. Ive seen benchmarks on them. If you doubt me, go out and buy a NVidia GeForce 8800GTX dual processor chipset (a rough equivalent of whats running in the PS3) then buy ANY dual processor ATI shipset (since ATI made theGPU for microsoft. Run 3dMark benchmarks on them and see who comeson top. Its been well known in the PC community that NVidia chipsethave ALWAYS been more powerful than ATI chipsets. go check PCMAG.com or any computer mag that benchmark products or open up both consoles and benchmark it like yourself just like I did. You have NO technical background in hardware.You just seem to have a skill for spitting out the jargon like you know what youre talking about. I live hardware dude.

Wait........I thought I said in my post I didnt know S*** about hardware, I never claimed to. BTw i heard the gpu in the ps3 is equal to a 7 seris. When some people that actually know what they are talking about get in this tread you will be owned HARD.

If you consider numbers proof, you're dead wrong

Honestly, i dont care what kinda hardware or numbas you post

From my eyes, i see better results from the 360

OOOOOOOH WHAT NOW xP