Why the PS3 Will Fail, And why Brian Hastings Was Wrong

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

Sure, you've all probably read Brian Hastings's little talk on why the
PS3 will win the console wars, but how credible are his arguments? Do
they actually hold up, or was he just hoping everyone would accept what
he said, being an "industry insider." Well, our own Peter Chapman takes
on the role of Angry Peter for the first time on TechAnise, and disects
Hastings's points one piece at a time. Click the link below and read on
about why the insider's arguments had no foundation and why the PS3
will fail as a console.

Angry Peter: Why the PS3 Will Fail

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

Sure, you've all probably read Brian Hastings's little talk on why the
PS3 will win the console wars, but how credible are his arguments? Do
they actually hold up, or was he just hoping everyone would accept what
he said, being an "industry insider." Well, our own Peter Chapman takes
on the role of Angry Peter for the first time on TechAnise, and disects
Hastings's points one piece at a time. Click the link below and read on
about why the insider's arguments had no foundation and why the PS3
will fail as a console.

Angry Peter: Why the PS3 Will Fail

Sargeras9

Now that was a pretty funny read...............wonder which camp he siding with.

PS3 is a sinking ship.  This is very obvious.  I would be very surprised if it lasted till 2008.viper7721

Wow, Angry Peter makes some interesting arguments.Sachmo2

[QUOTE="Sachmo2"]Wow, Angry Peter makes some interesting arguments.-KinGz-

[QUOTE="viper7721"]PS3 is a sinking ship.  This is very obvious.  I would be very surprised if it lasted till 2008.jechtshot78

I will back your bet. Just because TWO individuals with in the industry that are on opposite sides of the line are defending which console that they think is "the best", it will certainly have no impact on what happens in regards to either console in the end, lol.

In short, the PS3 will be fine. It may not hold the market like it did with the PS2, but it will be fine nonetheless. And it will have plenty of great games as well. I feel sorry for those who cannot see beyond all of this bashing the fact that the PS3 is a SUPERBLY designed console. They will of course be the ones who miss out because they are so closed minded.;) Too bad.

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

Private_Vegas

Ps3 will own teh 2010|||!.Hater3000

Doesn't even give the PS3 a chance to actually build it's online network. Sony's slumping but the PS3s online will get a lot better, Sony is aiming for a service similar to Live.

Why should he? Sony launched their online back during the PS2 and they had an extra year to work on it PS3's but is it as good as Xbox Live?

Obviously this guy hasn't heard of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Kojima is asking for a 50GB disk, what a moron. Failure rate to high, I don't think 3:1 is bad at all.

Kojima is asking for that space, does he want it? Yes. Does he need it? Probably not, Mass Effect looks good, has probably thousands of lines of conversations and has hundreds of worlds to explore and fits on a DVD...

Yeah but Blue Dragon is no where near the visual quality of MGS4, and you need three discs for that?

Blue Dragon is beautiful, have you seen that game? The only reason it needs 3 discs is all the CGI that the Japanese developers love to pack into their games.

Please provide some proof. If thats the case, don't you think Kojima would have released MGS4 for the X360 too? Since the X360s user base is larger than the PS3. Obviously using multiple discs is very very expensive. No developer wants to really deal with multiple discs because when you tally it up-- 3 discs and multiply that by the actual manufactured it far exceeds Blu-ray costs.

Kojima said he wanted to finish the series where it started, on the Playstation. 

Obviously the Cell is a major advantage than the XENOS processor. It's been stated before, thats one major area the PS3 excels at, while the X360s GPU is slightly better than the RSX GPU in the PS3. The CELL wins hands down in raw processing. I wouldn't trust "Wikipedia' all too much-- didn't you watch the news? A lot of it has no credibility.

You can trust Wikipedia more than some of the fanboys on this forum, Wikipedia has links at the bottom.

mjf249

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

mjf249

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.

If that's true, than why are a dozen or so CD's cheaper than a dvd? 

[QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

Sachmo2

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.

If that's true, than why are a dozen or so CD's cheaper than a dvd?

Can't wait to see this response... 

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

Sure, you've all probably read Brian Hastings's little talk on why the
PS3 will win the console wars, but how credible are his arguments? Do
they actually hold up, or was he just hoping everyone would accept what
he said, being an "industry insider." Well, our own Peter Chapman takes
on the role of Angry Peter for the first time on TechAnise, and disects
Hastings's points one piece at a time. Click the link below and read on
about why the insider's arguments had no foundation and why the PS3
will fail as a console.

Angry Peter: Why the PS3 Will Fail

Sargeras9

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.mjf249

Please... don't write if you don't know anything. 3 DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a SINGLE BR disk. They have a higher yield... and they don't need aditional investment in new factory processes. 

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

mjf249

I will agree that Hastings did make some valid points yes. But then other points served to counter balance this good ones. The Casino Royale point was a prime example of Hastings not knowing when to quit while he's ahead.

Hastings argument was a roller coaster of ups and downs that averaged out to equal Angry Peters consistant stream of 'blah'

[QUOTE="Sachmo2"][QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

SemiMaster

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.

If that's true, than why are a dozen or so CD's cheaper than a dvd?

Can't wait to see this response... 

Me too.

I'm really curious to see him back up his statement.

[QUOTE="mjf249"]
I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.Grive

Please... don't write if you don't know anything. 3 DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a SINGLE BR disk. They have a higher yield... and they don't need aditional investment in new factory processes. 

Let's just wait and see his response. I can't wait for it!!:D

[QUOTE="Grive"]

[QUOTE="mjf249"]
I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.LosDaddie

Please... don't write if you don't know anything. 3 DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a SINGLE BR disk. They have a higher yield... and they don't need aditional investment in new factory processes.

Let's just wait and see his response. I can't wait for it!!:D

its as simple as this, the games make the consoles, anyone who can say the games on the ps3 will be better has retardation or is surounded by many with retardation, like sony executives for examplescottiescott238

Ahh, so besides all of the killer multi-plats that will be released on the PS3 as well, exclusives like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, White Knight Story, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Wardevil: Enigma, God Of War 3, Resistance 2, ect., ect all will be horrible games because YOU say so? I suppose that anyone who is anticipating any of the aforementioned titles should be considered "retarded" as well because YOU say so?

No, my friend, it is YOU who seem to be suffering from that which you so blindly label others, as is clearly evident in your slanted, blind fanboy, BLATANTLY biased, Microsoft Flag waving, verbal diarreah.;)

Have a nice day.

[QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

Sachmo2

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.

If that's true, than why are a dozen or so CD's cheaper than a dvd?

OneBR-R = $20.99

Fifty DVD-R = $8.99 

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Grive"]

[QUOTE="mjf249"]
I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.rappid_rabbit

Please... don't write if you don't know anything. 3 DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a SINGLE BR disk. They have a higher yield... and they don't need aditional investment in new factory processes.

Let's just wait and see his response. I can't wait for it!!:D

Maybe we should send him a message so that he doesn't forget to respond??

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"][QUOTE="Grive"]

[QUOTE="mjf249"]
I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.rappid_rabbit

Please... don't write if you don't know anything. 3 DVDs are cheaper to manufacture than a SINGLE BR disk. They have a higher yield... and they don't need aditional investment in new factory processes.

Let's just wait and see his response. I can't wait for it!!:D

Just chillin here with the rest of you guys waiting for the massive self-ownage response.  Hint of system wars for people..... Do NOT make comments about stuff you dont know about.

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

Sure, you've all probably read Brian Hastings's little talk on why the
PS3 will win the console wars, but how credible are his arguments? Do
they actually hold up, or was he just hoping everyone would accept what
he said, being an "industry insider." Well, our own Peter Chapman takes
on the role of Angry Peter for the first time on TechAnise, and disects
Hastings's points one piece at a time. Click the link below and read on
about why the insider's arguments had no foundation and why the PS3
will fail as a console.

Angry Peter: Why the PS3 Will Fail

Sargeras9

PS3 is a sinking ship. This is very obvious. I would be very surprised if it lasted till 2008.viper7721

[QUOTE="Sachmo2"][QUOTE="mjf249"][QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

In terms of being full of crap

Brian Hastings = Angry Peter

I think they both made equally pathetic speils.

thirstychainsaw

I think Hastings had more validated points. I can actually see where he's going, while Angry Peter = Complete idiot.

Anyone that believes releasing a three-disk set is cheaper than a single layered 25GB Blu-ray disk is just a complete moron. Just imagine just how much more discs you'd have to manufacture.

If that's true, than why are a dozen or so CD's cheaper than a dvd?

OneBR-R = $20.99

Fifty DVD-R = $8.99

[QUOTE="Sargeras9"]

I found this post on a Game News Blog:

Sure, you've all probably read Brian Hastings's little talk on why the
PS3 will win the console wars, but how credible are his arguments? Do
they actually hold up, or was he just hoping everyone would accept what
he said, being an "industry insider." Well, our own Peter Chapman takes
on the role of Angry Peter for the first time on TechAnise, and disects
Hastings's points one piece at a time. Click the link below and read on
about why the insider's arguments had no foundation and why the PS3
will fail as a console.

Angry Peter: Why the PS3 Will Fail

PyroXD

[QUOTE="mjf249"]

Doesn't even give the PS3 a chance to actually build it's online network. Sony's slumping but the PS3s online will get a lot better, Sony is aiming for a service similar to Live.

Why should he? Sony launched their online back during the PS2 and they had an extra year to work on it PS3's but is it as good as Xbox Live?

Obviously this guy hasn't heard of Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Kojima is asking for a 50GB disk, what a moron. Failure rate to high, I don't think 3:1 is bad at all.

Kojima is asking for that space, does he want it? Yes. Does he need it? Probably not, Mass Effect looks good, has probably thousands of lines of conversations and has hundreds of worlds to explore and fits on a DVD...

Yeah but Blue Dragon is no where near the visual quality of MGS4, and you need three discs for that?

Blue Dragon is beautiful, have you seen that game? The only reason it needs 3 discs is all the CGI that the Japanese developers love to pack into their games.

Please provide some proof. If thats the case, don't you think Kojima would have released MGS4 for the X360 too? Since the X360s user base is larger than the PS3. Obviously using multiple discs is very very expensive. No developer wants to really deal with multiple discs because when you tally it up-- 3 discs and multiply that by the actual manufactured it far exceeds Blu-ray costs.

Kojima said he wanted to finish the series where it started, on the Playstation.

Obviously the Cell is a major advantage than the XENOS processor. It's been stated before, thats one major area the PS3 excels at, while the X360s GPU is slightly better than the RSX GPU in the PS3. The CELL wins hands down in raw processing. I wouldn't trust "Wikipedia' all too much-- didn't you watch the news? A lot of it has no credibility.

You can trust Wikipedia more than some of the fanboys on this forum, Wikipedia has links at the bottom.

thirstychainsaw