Why valve is the best developer

I honestly think Valve is the best developer and here is why

They revolutionised the FPS

With the awesome Doom making the FPS, Half Life 2 truly owned the FPS with its awesome level design, story and art. They continue the series of Half Life with a huge fan following.

They make brilliant narrative

The half life series is acclaimed for their extremely well made narrative and story that is rivited with plot twists and amazing set pieces

They make beutiful graphics

The extremely flexible source engine originally used in 2004 in Half Life 2 was amazing at the time and has seen numerous upgrades and still used today and still blowing minds in the new Left 4 Dead 2.

They made an awesome modding scene.

Besides Epic games, Valve is the only other true competitor in the modding scene thanks to the versatatlity of the acclaimed Source Engine. Examples are the now famous Counter Strike games that turned in to full games.

They make great innovations in gaming.

Though admitidally they stick to FPS games, Valve still has created many awesome innovations. Just look at the Co-op in L4D and L4D2! The brilliant AI director keeps the game fun and exciting.

Awesome multiplayer games and Communities.

Css and Tf2 are amazing multiplayer games with huge fan followings. Team Fortress 2 has seen numerous updates to help it stay balanced and fun and the updates if added up could be sold seperatly as an expansion pack, but their free! This shows that Valve arent just doing it for money but doing it for the love of gaming.

All in all I think Valve is the best developer ever.

I didn't like Half-Like...

Edit: I could say I half-liked Half-Life.

I didn't like Half-Like...

Edit: I could say I half-liked Half-Life.

BattleTurtles

lol

Back on topic, i agree, they did defintely kill the "corridor" shooter term for good

They kinda dropped the ball with L4D with me, but TF2 is amazing, and Half Life 2 is awesome, though Episode Three needs to hurry its ass onto my PC.

I like Valve quite a lot. They don't release a new game every year (except L4D2...) just to make money. They make sure the games are well done.

They also support their fanbase very well.

Soldier and Demo update for tf2 tomorrow!

on topic: while i love valve, i would say that valve, nintendo, dice, bioware, and betheda are all on the same level. (even though im not the biggest fan of bioware games, i have to give credit to where its due)

Well i wouldnt go as far as saying the best, but yeah they're pretty good.

BioWare is better. 8)

B-b-b-b-but they won't develop for the PS3!Silent-Hal

Team Fortress 2 was mediocre IMO dr-venkman

Your opinion is meaningless :P It does not belong here.

im not really a big fan of valve games. their games are ok though

I'm not a fan. I don't think they're very good to the gaming community.musicalmac

I just wish they could make more than one type of game...then they would be great.

I just wish they could make more than one type of game...then they would be great.

goblaa

Blizzard is better. :)

Valve is first, Blizzardsecond and Bethesda third IMO

I wouldn't say for the XBox 360 but it takes the cake for PC.

BTW I just want to say that Left 4 Dead is a very, very poor example of a revolutionary FPS....

On part of the fact that Killing Floor, a UT2k4 mod, effectively included everything Left 4 Dead did, in 2007. In fact, their beta was released in 2005...

Killing Floor has 6 player survival co-op, extremely good enemy pathing and AI (at least in the retail version) with random spawns and attack paths (they often corner you), melee weapons, and a class based multiplayer component with unique mechanics surrounding on how classes support eachother (medic, demolitions, support, etc).

The melee weapons are the kicker, though. They have a fire axe, katana and a chain saw....sound familiar at all?

Enemies like the Bloat:

Look familiar?

They're nearly identical. They explode when you shoot them, deal poison damage when too close, and spew poisonous bile.

Then there's the flesh pound:

And the tank:

Which both charge you and clobber the piss out of you...effectively, same concept.

And many of Left 4 Dead's enemies are just variations on the same idea....they grab you and attack you and your teammates have to free you. Incidentally, clots in Killing Floor are exactly the same thing.

In other words, been there, done that. Left 4 Dead breaks no new ground. The only reason none of you know this is because Killing Floor was an obscure mod by a developer none of you heard of whereas Left 4 Dead has the support of millions of lemmings who've never heard the word "mod" before....and because Valve distributes Killing Floor and Red Orchestra, which means any conflict of interest would affect both Tripwire's (developer of KF) and Valve's income.

BTW I just want to say that Left 4 Dead is a very, very poor example of a revolutionary FPS....

On part of the fact that Killing Floor, a UT2k4 mod, effectively included everything Left 4 Dead did, in 2007. In fact, their beta was released in 2005...

Killing Floor has 6 player survival co-op, extremely good enemy pathing and AI (at least in the retail version) with random spawns and attack paths (they often corner you), melee weapons, and a class based multiplayer component with unique mechanics surrounding on how classes support eachother (medic, demolitions, support, etc).

The melee weapons are the kicker, though. They have a fire axe, katana and a chain saw....sound familiar at all?

pt.

And many of Left 4 Dead's enemies are just variations on the same idea....they grab you and attack you and your teammates have to free you. Incidentally, clots in Killing Floor are exactly the same thing.

In other words, been there, done that. Left 4 Dead breaks no new ground. The only reason none of you know this is because Killing Floor was an obscure mod by a developer none of you heard of whereas Left 4 Dead has the support of millions of lemmings who've never heard the word "mod" before....and because Valve distributes Killing Floor and Red Orchestra, which means any conflict of interest would affect both Tripwire's (developer of KF) and Valve's income.

Brownesque

1. Valve 2. Bioware 3. Blizzard Killing Floor is better than L4D1 & 2. While Valve has made some very good games in the past they are on a bit of a decline with L4D. I think its time for Valve to move on to some new and more innovative ideas than just shooters.Iantheone

I just wish they could make more than one type of game...then they would be great.

goblaa

See I am not the only one. Valve is currently a one-trick pony. They need to be more diverse.

Not a big fan of Half-Life, I don't know why but I can't play through it without getting bored. Everything else is great though, Left 4 Dead is also great, just wish I had more friends who played it. I only have two, one only plays MW2 and the other is barely on. L4D isn't really a game you can play on 360 by yourself because people are so bad and dumb they manage to die on easy..

for you yeah.

unfortunately, valve is in my block list after hl2.

i hate their fps games, i dont feel like i am walking but flying in their fps. you can find it in cs and hl2, and actually i saw ppl flying online...

i perfer mor realistic fps like MW.

the best developer should be blizzard, lol who else can convince millions of players pay $1000 for a game?

wow = $50 original + $100 expansion + 15 x 60 (5 years) = $1050

for you yeah.

unfortunately, valve is in my block list after hl2.

i hate their fps games, i dont feel like i am walking but flying in their fps. you can find it in cs and hl2, and actually i saw ppl flying online...

i perfer mor realistic fps like MW.

the best developer should be blizzard, lol who else can convince millions of players pay $1000 for a game?

wow = $50 original + $100 expansion + 15 x 60 (5 years) = $1050

oajlu

irony!

I'm not a fan. I don't think they're very good to the gaming community.musicalmac

I'm not a fan. I don't think they're very good to the gaming community.musicalmac

Please elaborate.

i dont think they are that great, their games are just meh.InfiniteBlak

I just wish they could make more than one type of game...then they would be great.

goblaa

I'd rather say Valve was an amazing dev. Right now, I'm not sure what to think of them considering how L4D is their only recent game.

Since they won't develop for the PS3, the greatest console ever created, Valve suxxors!!!

:P

I'd rather say Valve was an amazing dev. Right now, I'm not sure what to think of them considering how L4D is their only recent game.

Filthybastrd

I'd rather say Valve was an amazing dev. Right now, I'm not sure what to think of them considering how L4D is their only recent game.

Filthybastrd

Since they won't develop for the PS3, the greatest console ever created, Valve suxxors!!!

:P

789shadow

Valve are untalented since they can't develop for the PS3 :P.

BTW I just want to say that Left 4 Dead is a very, very poor example of a revolutionary FPS....

On part of the fact that Killing Floor, a UT2k4 mod, effectively included everything Left 4 Dead did, in 2007. In fact, their beta was released in 2005...

Killing Floor has 6 player survival co-op, extremely good enemy pathing and AI (at least in the retail version) with random spawns and attack paths (they often corner you), melee weapons, and a class based multiplayer component with unique mechanics surrounding on how classes support eachother (medic, demolitions, support, etc).

The melee weapons are the kicker, though. They have a fire axe, katana and a chain saw....sound familiar at all?

Enemies like the Bloat:

Look familiar?

They're nearly identical. They explode when you shoot them, deal poison damage when too close, and spew poisonous bile.

Then there's the flesh pound:

And the tank:

Which both charge you and clobber the piss out of you...effectively, same concept.

And many of Left 4 Dead's enemies are just variations on the same idea....they grab you and attack you and your teammates have to free you. Incidentally, clots in Killing Floor are exactly the same thing.

In other words, been there, done that. Left 4 Dead breaks no new ground. The only reason none of you know this is because Killing Floor was an obscure mod by a developer none of you heard of whereas Left 4 Dead has the support of millions of lemmings who've never heard the word "mod" before....and because Valve distributes Killing Floor and Red Orchestra, which means any conflict of interest would affect both Tripwire's (developer of KF) and Valve's income.

Brownesque

Love em but for me, Bungie / Bioware .. pick one because I can't. :P

Which both charge you and clobber the piss out of you...effectively, same concept.

And many of Left 4 Dead's enemies are just variations on the same idea....they grab you and attack you and your teammates have to free you. Incidentally, clots in Killing Floor are exactly the same thing.

In other words, been there, done that. Left 4 Dead breaks no new ground. The only reason none of you know this is because Killing Floor was an obscure mod by a developer none of you heard of whereas Left 4 Dead has the support of millions of lemmings who've never heard the word "mod" before....and because Valve distributes Killing Floor and Red Orchestra, which means any conflict of interest would affect both Tripwire's (developer of KF) and Valve's income.

Brownesque

Except that killing floor is piss poor compared to Left 4 dead. All you do is survive until everyone dies. They're objectives in L4D, crescendo events, both camping and running now.

Plus the Boomer doesn't do "Acid Damage" at all, it attracts the horde, something anyone who has even PLAYED the game know about. The similarities of the games are obivously there, but Left 4 dead stomps it into the ground, really hard.

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I'd rather say Valve was an amazing dev. Right now, I'm not sure what to think of them considering how L4D is their only recent game.

lazzordude

Ok, I'll give you that but I still stand by my point. I'd lie to see ep 3 right about now and then it's probably time to leave Source to modders and indie devs.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

I just wish they could make more than one type of game...then they would be great.

HoolaHoopMan

same engine, and similar gameplay (gun and run FPS)...beside that velve is not a small studio like Naughty Dog, velveowns many studios.

you dont see EA, ubisoft, or activision makes only 1 type of games.

even a stduio like blizzardmakes many differenttypes of games.

RTS (warcraft and startcraft), MMORPG (wow), coop RPG (diablo)

BioWare is better. 8)

randomwiiplayer

Good games are not the only thing that make good developers, Valve constantly supports their community (especially Tf2) wheareas as BioWare makes awesome games but doesnt really update them that much for free

Naughty Dog is better. Valve is just a group of people who are too scared to work on the Ps3.

Naughty Dog is better. Valve is just a group of people who are too scared to work on the Ps3.

WiiMan21