Wii Haters, STOP!!!!!!!!, this is getting pathetic!!!!!!!!!

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#1 nintendo-4life
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honestly ever since the beggining of the Wii generation started cows and lems have gotten more and more pathetic and that was ok, until now, what the hell am i seeing here? 
"if nintendo was the only system made i would not buy it", "Wii is less powerful than the Xbox since the MS SPOKESMEN said so! TSHBO!!!", "Wii sports is only fun for two weeks or so and then i just play it occasionally, even though i normally beat my hardcore titles in mere days mostly, but for Wii sports, two weeks is not enough for no reason what so ever!!", "Wii is so overpriced even though i have to pay $600 for another console, but the other console is WORTH IT (and then they mention stuff completely unrelated (blu ray) or they mention elements that could be done better on another console with a lower price)", "Wii's isn't a long lasting console TSHBO, and i say this with no evidence what so ever!!" "Wii is only fun for a bit because i refuse to purchase titles for the console, but i'm still going to b*tch about it!1", the list goes on and on, never ending really.

seriously people STOP!!, what's gotten into you? you don't like the Wii that's fine but you don't have to obbsess and hate it all day long, it's like you don't care about good games anymore, you only care about what games are BETTER (my proof? hmm... maybe the fact that haters were laughing at a game that scored a 6.6 on their systems? :|), i really hate it when people say that Wii has no games, yet it's only 2 AA titles away from matching the PS3, it's like when a cow argues with a sheep about Wii it goes like this:
"Wii has no games", "it had zelda as a launch title", "that doesn't count it's available on GC", " it has super paper mario", "i don't want that game, so it's a FACT that it's bad", "it has 3rd party titles like SSX blur", "LOL it only scored a 7.4 here" "it has wario ware then, whcich scored AAA here" "HELL NO GS is biased and scores don't matter anyway" "so PS3's AAA title sholdn't be counted right?" "NO GS is fair" "what? even if that's true then it's still a port, which shouldn't be counted" "NO it should be counted and that's final, it's not a port it's a multiplatform title, which Wii doesn't have any good ones at that either" "it has god father" "NO IT DOESN'T god father scored higher on 360" "it has madden" "NO IT DOESN'T it just has different standards" and it goes on and on non stop.


so anyway if you don't want to read the entire rant then at least read this, people, give Wii a chance, even if the titles don't entrestt you, you can at least give it a chance, after all this is what Wii is about isn't it? yes it doesn't have strong online plans yet, yes it doesn't have THAT wide of game options yet, but give it time, you gave it to the X360, you are giving it to the PS3, why not the Wii? because it's more successful than the PS3 and the X360 at the moment? if not then why are you being so hard on the Wii? even if Wii just has the good titles and doesn't have the better ones in your opinion, does it really make it a bad console?"if you can answer these questions then i would respect your opinion, but really what is it about Wii that ticks you off? is it because you're afraid that Wii will "destroy" the gaming world because of it's strong sales? if so then let me just say this, GTA was the highest selling title last gen, yet we still got our Final fantasies and ninja gaidens.

that's it im done :P
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#2 Toaster_Cell
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...ok thanks, but these threads have been made hundreds of times before...
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#3 nintendo-4life
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...ok thanks, but these threads have been made hundreds of times before...Toaster_Cell
lol i know, i just want to put mine :P
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#4 MythManiac
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I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.  

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You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one guy makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps their pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people who just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...
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#6 nintendo-4life
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I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.  

MythManiac
i'm not talking about arguing, i'm talking about logic :|
even if this is SW, you should have this with you :|
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You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...SpaceDragonMan

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

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#8 deadmeat59
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every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "
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[QUOTE="MythManiac"]

I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.

nintendo-4life

i'm not talking about arguing, i'm talking about logic :|
even if this is SW, you should have this with you :|


Don't forget, all logic goes out the window when you're in system wars. ;)

Seriously though, all consoles on here receive **** like this. As a level 30 member, I expected you to be used to it now.

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When Fanboys Attack.....part 3567
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="MythManiac"]

I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.

MythManiac

i'm not talking about arguing, i'm talking about logic :|
even if this is SW, you should have this with you :|


Don't forget, all logic goes out the window when you're in system wars. ;)

Seriously though, all consoles on here receive **** like this. As a level 30 member, I expected you to be used to it now.

well, here's the deal, i was here around the PS2 era, and i did not make a single "rant thread" in my entire time here in GS, but ever since the Wii started, more and more idiotic things are being said daily about it, really i know logic goes out of the Window here in SW, but to me this is too much, i used to have good arguments here, what went wrong?
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#12 jfkunrendered
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Wii only fans, STOP!!!! These threads are annoying. PS, Wii Sports gets old after two weeks :D
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When Fanboys Attack.....part 3567rogue_leader_5

Wow it's out already?

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Wii only fans, STOP!!!! These threads are annoying. PS, Wii Sports gets old after two weeks :Djfkunrendered
i'm not a Wii only fan, i own and love a 360, and i own but only like a PS3 (will love it after HS, AC, and FF13 comes around ;))
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360 haters STOP!!!!!

PS3 haters STOP!!!!!



Why do you only want to stop the Wii hate? Are you a fanboy or something?
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[QUOTE="rogue_leader_5"]When Fanboys Attack.....part 3567SailorMars

Wow it's out already?

 

Yes, starring the Nintendo Fanboys. 

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#17 MythManiac
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[QUOTE="MythManiac"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="MythManiac"]

I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.

nintendo-4life

i'm not talking about arguing, i'm talking about logic :|
even if this is SW, you should have this with you :|


Don't forget, all logic goes out the window when you're in system wars. ;)

Seriously though, all consoles on here receive **** like this. As a level 30 member, I expected you to be used to it now.

well, here's the deal, i was here around the PS2 era, and i did not make a single "rant thread" in my entire time here in GS, but ever since the Wii started, more and more idiotic things are being said daily about it, really i know logic goes out of the Window here in SW, but to me this is too much, i used to have good arguments here, what went wrong?

Well, that's true, and it's a shame. But why are you only attacking Wii haters? There are 360 and PS3 haters too you know.

And as for the logic part, I guess more younger gamers are learning about the internet. That, or people don't know the meaning of logic, netiquette, and manners. o_o 

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[QUOTE="jfkunrendered"]Wii only fans, STOP!!!! These threads are annoying. PS, Wii Sports gets old after two weeks :Dnintendo-4life
i'm not a Wii only fan, i own and love a 360, and i own but only like a PS3 (will love it after HS, AC, and FF13 comes around ;))

 

My bad, every time I see these I automatically think Sheep!! 

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:lol:

there there, let it all out.

..feel better now? :) 

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#20 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="MythManiac"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="MythManiac"]

I hate whiny threads about this even more. You're in System Wars. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. All consoles get their equal amount of bashing. Why should one console stop receiving it?

Seriously, stop the whining.

MythManiac

i'm not talking about arguing, i'm talking about logic :|
even if this is SW, you should have this with you :|


Don't forget, all logic goes out the window when you're in system wars. ;)

Seriously though, all consoles on here receive **** like this. As a level 30 member, I expected you to be used to it now.

well, here's the deal, i was here around the PS2 era, and i did not make a single "rant thread" in my entire time here in GS, but ever since the Wii started, more and more idiotic things are being said daily about it, really i know logic goes out of the Window here in SW, but to me this is too much, i used to have good arguments here, what went wrong?

Well, that's true, and it's a shame. But why are you only attacking Wii haters? There are 360 and PS3 haters too you know.

And as for the logic part, I guess more younger gamers are learning about the internet. That, or people don't know the meaning of logic, netiquette, and manners. o_o 

well, because Wii is getting the most attention right now, and it's getting more idiotic things said at it right now, that's the only reason really.
the ranting for X360, for example, goes like this "360 only has shooters!!!" "360 is vulnerable conslose" and such like this, even though it's idiotic still, it's debatable, and you really deal with a bit of logic here, but with Wii it really is idiotic, they move, aviod and do anyting just not to win an argument, IMO that's the real difference, as you can see, i never mentioned them acting stupid against the graphics or the online service, but to an extent, it's true, nintendo can do a better job with it.
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#21 flazzle
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I love all the Wii bashing! The day it stops is the day Wii loses momentum!
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The criticism on Wii is 100% valid in my opinion

its delivering disgusting games 

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#23 Eddie-Vedder
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The wii sucks lol you can have fun with it, doesn´t make u a bad or stupid person, but you can also have fun playing with legos. It isn´t better then the xbox or the ps3 in any single category, well except price.
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every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "deadmeat59

I don't want to be a jerk, but what games on the wii are that good, that people find bad pictures for.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "LEGEND_C4A

I don't want to be a jerk, but what games on the wii are that good, that people find bad pictures for.

Zelda.
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "Jandurin

I don't want to be a jerk, but what games on the wii are that good, that people find bad pictures for.

Zelda.



8.8!!!!!!11 LOLZ ROFLCOPTERS
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Where exactly are all these wii haters? You're making this crap up
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "Jandurin

I don't want to be a jerk, but what games on the wii are that good, that people find bad pictures for.

Zelda.

ok I do understand what you are trying to say, but Zelda is really a gamecube game, and it does look nice, art style that is, but graphically I don't think its the most amazing thing in the world. then again this is from watching videos and pics, Haven't played it myself, but there aren't too many games on the Wii that you can honestly show off to a friend......is there?

if I wan't to show off my system and maybe talk a friend into getting one, I would pop in Gears of War, Chromhounds, Crackdown, Viva Pinata, PD0(yes, lol) Fight Night, Kameo.

with the Wii in reality I would show off the controller.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]every time wii geta a good games. someone finds the worst looking picture they can and they post it . then they say " bu bu the graphics "DireToad

I don't want to be a jerk, but what games on the wii are that good, that people find bad pictures for.

Zelda.



8.8!!!!!!11 LOLZ ROFLCOPTERS

And yet it was the hightest rated game of the year at gamerankings and metacritic, not to mention the only game since Half-Life 2 to pull out a perfect 10 for multiple reviewers. :| 

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Where exactly are all these wii haters? You're making this crap upmmogoon
lol look 4 posts above you.
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I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.
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[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...Sonick54

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

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I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideo
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.
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with the Wii in reality I would show off the controller.LEGEND_C4A
Yep.  I show friends the Mii creation place and then Wii sports.  Usually I don't get past that for some hours.
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...super_mario_128

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

so saying what were they thinking, or what's wrong wth these people isn't trolling?
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...nintendo-4life

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

so saying what were they thinking, or what's wrong wth these people isn't trolling?

Can you rephrase the question, it wasn't that clear. :)

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.nintendo-4life
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

Agreed, I seriously think that more people need to read my thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25619374

 

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[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...super_mario_128

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

   Yep I think I posted about third on that thread and handed him Flame Shield - the same people crying about Wii haters are the one creating hate for the Wii b/c of their insecurity complex they attack like wolves in Sheeps clothing lmao ;)
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#39 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.nintendo-4life
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.
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#40 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.Vandalvideo
And, with more sales altogether, they will make more hardcore games too.  THIS IS UNDENIABLE.
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#41 D_Znuhtz
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...ok thanks, but these threads have been made hundreds of times before...Toaster_Cell

Anyway, haters will hate. Its what they do. The PS3 gets the brunt of it on here, and PS3 owners don't have the Wii's astonishing sales figures to back us up. SW is entertainment, don't let it get to you. Most people don't believe what they post, and those that do should be given a wide berth anyway.

You also have to deal with the fact that the Wii is just not everyone's cup of tea. When people say, "if it was the only system, I wouldn't buy it", might not be saying it just because they dislike Nintendo for an arbitrary reason. If the Wii was the only console, I would buy it, but it could not be my primary form of gaming. I would just play PC games with a side-order of Wii. Graphics, hardware, technology are not important to everyone. For me, its not what its all about, but its definitely a factor. I definitely get a euphoric rush of joy when I hear about groundbreaking games like Spore, graphically amazing games like Crysis, and just plain interesting/fun looking games like Lair, Mass Effect, MGS, Halo. I love to see the evolution of technology. The Wii as a system is cool, I like the nunchuks, but it doesn't really have the games I like to play. When it does, I'll embrace it, and so will other people. Right now I see it as a pretty cool idea without the software to back it up, and not quite enough technology and features to buy it without the games to go with it. 

Bottom line is, this is SW. Don't take anything seriously. We're all game geeks and while we argue, we would put it aside in times of "Crysis" (yuk yuk). Like, if the Taliban or Kim Jong'il put out a console :P 

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Sonick54"]

[QUOTE="SpaceDragonMan"]You're delirious, everyday there are 2-5 ps3 bash threads and nobody says **** about those, one gut makes a anti-wii thread and everybody craps they're pants. The wii isn't a gift from god you know, there are alot of people you just hate it, just like there are alot of people who hate Ps3...super_mario_128

THere is a difference beteween not liking it, and trolling it to annoy people on the internet :| 

How about the guy who made the thread, 'So I returned my wii, and the reaction'. He wasn't trolling, yet many people couldn't accept it and flamed him.

so saying what were they thinking, or what's wrong wth these people isn't trolling?

Can you rephrase the question, it wasn't that clear. :)

lol sure, in his thread he said some stuff like "what were they thinking?" or "what's wrong with these people?" that gave a very negative attitude and impression, IMO he WAS trying to bash the people, that's why they bashed back.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.Jandurin
And, with more sales altogether, they will make more hardcore games too.  THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

Not necessarily. There is nothing to prove that there is a strong hardcore demand, nor that there is enough money to invest in hardcore games. If more casual games sell more, the only thing you can infer is that more casual games will be made. You can not infer somehow that this = more hardcore games.
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ok now go a play spiderman whit the power of the Wii
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you forgot to mention "The system doesn't have Assassin Creed, MGS, Final fantasy, etc., yet, I don't even want it to be on the console...."

I here this more often as to the Kiddy argument as well. Cows and Lemming say the Wii dont have the game PS3 and 360 are getting, then they turn around and say they hope it don't go to the console, seriously, where the logic in that.....:|

Oh and they also mention the Wii can't handle those type of games because of it's power.I also say thats BS since downgradde and a few touch up's can do the trick...

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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideo
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.

I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.flazzle

but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

Trauma Center, Wii Sports, Elebits, Wii Madden, Wario Ware to name a few all use the Wii Remote in such a way it cannot be recreated with the same enjoyment than on any other system. Yeah, you can change the controls to work on a 360 or PS3, but it would be like playing DDR or Guitar Hero using a regular controller: its just lame without the advance controls.

I never thought gamers would be so narrowminded and scared of change that they actually think the Wii Remote is more limiting, when deveopers think its more liberating.

Actually "enjoyment" is subjective and cannot be proven as a universal. You can not prove that these game mechanics would be any less fun on a standard controller. You cannot prve an opinion sir.
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.Vandalvideo
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

again, please give it more time, as i said in my post, you gave X360 time, you may give PS3 time, why not the Wii?
surely you remember how the DS started, need i remind you, it was really just a gemmick with the touch screen controls but people looked in the beyond, and they saw potential, thankfully the potential is being met, and me and some people see the same (and more) potential in the Wii, since Wii sports really added ALOT to the industry, this is the first casual game EVER to be accepted by hardcore consumers (just so we're clear, halo and GTA are much more hated here than WiiSports, so you get my point).

so anyway, look beyond than just what the Wii has to offer now, and one final note: "developers make games for the most common denmoinator", if you really believe that, then you aren't against the Wii, you are against every dominating console in the market.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I don't hate the Wii. I hate what the Wii represents; A shift in the industry towards the casual consumer.nintendo-4life
but the Wiimote adds to the hardcore consumers as well.

How does it add the hardcore consumer? By issuing old rehashes of old games with tacted on new motion sensing features? Forgive my french, but ***** that. I want new games, not old games played new ways. Look, develoeprs make games for the most common denominator. With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

again, please give it more time, as i said in my post, you gave X360 time, you may give PS3 time, why not the Wii?
surely you remember how the DS started, need i remind you, it was really just a gemmick with the touch screen controls but people looked in the beyond, and they saw potential, thankfully the potential is being met, and me and some people see the same (and more) potential in the Wii, since Wii sports really added ALOT to the industry, this is the first casual game EVER to be accepted by hardcore consumers (just so we're clear, halo and GTA are much more hated here than WiiSports, so you get my point).

so anyway, look beyond than just what the Wii has to offer now, and one final note: "developers make games for the most common denmoinator", if you really believe that, then you aren't against the Wii, you are against every dominating console in the market.

I extremely hate the "give it time" slogan. I don't want to give it time, I've seen what it represents. At the rate its going, I know what its going to become. Call it inference, call it an educated guess, but I've named the most common scenario. More casual consumer = more casual games. Easily seen. Whether or not the Wiimote has or had potential to create amazing games has yet to be seen. I was promised a revelution. What I was given was a rehashing.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With more casuals, they will make more casual games. THIS IS UNDENIABLE.Vandalvideo
And, with more sales altogether, they will make more hardcore games too.  THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

Not necessarily. There is nothing to prove that there is a strong hardcore demand, nor that there is enough money to invest in hardcore games. If more casual games sell more, the only thing you can infer is that more casual games will be made. You can not infer somehow that this = more hardcore games.

So, what casual games have sold a bunch that makes you so sure that casual gamers rule?

Trauma Center?  TP?  SPM?  Madden?  What sales charts are you using to base your undeniable claims of a casual future for the Wii's games?