Wii Sports Resort review up. GS

the wii hate in this thread is more powerfull than a full strength tycoon

wii-bashers being mad = GOOD!

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="Superzone"] What the HELL are you talking about?? You do know what a tech demo is, right?Superzone

A tech demo is a presentation (via software or otherwise) designed to show off the capabilities of either a piece of hardware (console or peripheral) or a concept/software (like Lucasarts showing off their tech for The Force Unleashed).

Nintendo did those things well.

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]

[QUOTE="Wii_Gamer_277"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You really want me to go into depth on the game's shortcomings? :|surrealnumber5

if Wii Sports is used as an example then yes

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I don't know what you're implying but I think its clear that I guess I do need to explain myself.

Wii Sports Resort is barely a "game." To be compared to other AA titles like Infamous and Little King's Story is an absolute joke. It's sad that even with the wii's overinflated scores the console cannot compete with the two "losing" consoles. A game like wii sport's resort scoring high up with the rest of the wii's AA's is an even bigger insult to it's library.

The__Havoc

Certain types of games should never achieve certain scores. And games without certain elements should never achieve certain scores. And no game should ever receive a 10 because no game deserves it. That's how I see it.

Just because a game doesn't have any problems doesn't mean it should automatically score a perfect 10. Or a 9. Or an 8.

hakanakumono

Have you forgot what gaming is? Gamign is about fun. You don't see me going around saying games with Girly looking guys should never recieve certain scores. To compare other games with normal looking characters compared to gender confusing characters would be an absolute joke wouldn't it 8)

Games are about entertainment. Not all games are about "fun." But all should aim towards player enjoyment. There are a variety of game factors that can contribute to enjoyment. "Fun" is not necessarily one of them, and this "enjoyment" doesn't have to pertain to all players.

I don't mean that certain aspects of games should arbitrarily mark them up or down. I mean that if a game is going to get a higher score, it better have a considerable level of depth and/or complexity in terms of gameplay or story and presentation. In other words, if a game has simplistic gameplay (with little to no depth or complexity) and a poor storyline then it shouldn't score above an 8. Minigame collections, no matter how high quality, are short simplistic games that should not score over 7.5. Longer adventures of course should be able to score an 8, like Zelda TP.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Read the review or watch the video. "Can be picked up and enjoyed by all levels of gamers".SMR-Venom

I read the review.

What's the point of your quote? It doesn't improve or devalue the game.

I think there's this misconception in SW that "hardcore" gamers play only "hardcore" games and "casual" gamers play only "casual" games. Just because the review says that it can be enjoyed by hardcore gamers doesn't mean that it has depth. Hardcore and casual gamers have always played both hardcore and casual games. Which is why its important to have a library consisting of both hardcore and casual games. By the end of the day, the game with the more depth and complexity is always going to be more respected if it does manage to pull it off (Xenosaga, Silent Hill 2), but casual titles like Mario games are a great addition to any library. Different games provide different forms of enjoyment.

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

magiciandude

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

hakanakumono

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

for all you know, WSR is getting 7's and 8's everywhere instead of 8's and 9's because it doesnt have online play.

if it had online play, it would definately score higher....

in the end, it still got the rating the reviewer thinks it deserves. which is still about the average rating for this game (82 metacritic score)

ogvampire

And the Lack of single player replayability, good graphics(they suck even for the Wii), good sounds. The review even says the game is shallow and repetitive(look under "the bad"). That has NOTHING to do with the AA status at all:roll:

you are magnifying every bad thing he said and ignoring the good things

it seems like you have something against WSR getting good ratings... especially considering you havent even played it :|

also, his review is about the average: 82 metacritic score

Well I can't play the game till it's out on Sunday. And everything that's bad seems to be everything about the game but the controls and a few of the mini games included.

I've NEVER bashed any Wii game for getting a good score. It's just My opinion that the review doesn't match the score. I'll review ti myself on sunday when I get it...Or I may just save my money for FULL games this September/October. I can pay $60 each for about 7 games in those 2 months I like, or $60 for a collection of minigames...Most of which are appearently shallow and simply have you going through the same boring motions over and over again.

MUA2, UC2, Borderlands, Demons Souls and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 plus a few others are FAR more interesting looking.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

Willy105

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

Yes, it is.

[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

hakanakumono

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

hakanakumono

Yes, it is.

Hmm it says a "Must have party game"

where are the excellent single player games?. When all the Wii has is crap it easy for a semi-decent game to score well. Compare Wii games to 360/Ps3/PC games and they would score crap

Hmm it says a "Must have party game"

where are the excellent single player games?

smartcriminal

Hmm it says a "Must have party game"

where are the excellent single player games?. When all the Wii has is crap it easy for a semi-decent game to score well. Compare Wii games to 360/Ps3/PC games and they would score crap

smartcriminal

[QUOTE="smartcriminal"]

Hmm it says a "Must have party game"

where are the excellent single player games?

OreoMilkshake

Games are about entertainment. Not all games are about "fun." But all should aim towards player enjoyment. There are a variety of game factors that can contribute to enjoyment. "Fun" is not necessarily one of them, and this "enjoyment" doesn't have to pertain to all players.

I don't mean that certain aspects of games should arbitrarily mark them up or down. I mean that if a game is going to get a higher score, it better have a considerable level of depth and/or complexity in terms of gameplay or story and presentation. In other words, if a game has simplistic gameplay (with little to no depth or complexity) and a poor storyline then it shouldn't score above an 8. Minigame collections, no matter how high quality, are short simplistic games that should not score over 7.5. Longer adventures of course should be able to score an 8, like Zelda TP.

hakanakumono

Um entertainment, fun, and enjoyment all come under one umbrella man.

You're explanations are just well....yeah.....

What it comes down to is you trying to push your opinion upon others. Quite frankly to me its irrelevent. I don't agree with the things you have to say and you probably don't agree with what I have to say. Its just that I'm not throwing out my opinion like its the gold standard in which you are.

[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

Who would have thought that a game that getsa good score be so offensive to SW?

hakanakumono

Because it doesn't deserve to be placed on the pedestal next to other AA games. It really can't compare to them.

Damn! Almost everyone trashing this casual awesomeness was owned! :P AA!

BioShockOwnz

Are you serious? LOWER STANDARDS! No Ownage.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Games are about entertainment. Not all games are about "fun." But all should aim towards player enjoyment. There are a variety of game factors that can contribute to enjoyment. "Fun" is not necessarily one of them, and this "enjoyment" doesn't have to pertain to all players.

I don't mean that certain aspects of games should arbitrarily mark them up or down. I mean that if a game is going to get a higher score, it better have a considerable level of depth and/or complexity in terms of gameplay or story and presentation. In other words, if a game has simplistic gameplay (with little to no depth or complexity) and a poor storyline then it shouldn't score above an 8. Minigame collections, no matter how high quality, are short simplistic games that should not score over 7.5. Longer adventures of course should be able to score an 8, like Zelda TP.

The__Havoc

Um entertainment, fun, and enjoyment all come under one umbrella man.

You're explanations are just well....yeah.....

What it comes down to is you trying to push your opinion upon others. Quite frankly to me its irrelevent. I don't agree with the things you have to say and you probably don't agree with what I have to say. Its just that I'm not throwing out my opinion like its the gold standard in which you are.

"Fun" falls under "entertainment" but "entertainment" doesn't fall under "fun." In other words, simple fun is just one way games entertain players.

Why should a game score an 8 when it doesn't compare to other 8s?

Why should a game score an 8 when it doesn't compare to other 8s?hakanakumono

the wii is catching up to the 360 pretty quickly.

CaseyWegner

In Online gaming it's not. :D

wi-bashers are mad as hell in this thread! i LOVE it!

*does the "make 'em madder derrick fisher smile"*

I thought Nintendo fanboys said Sports Resort is going to be AAA. ;)

"Fun" falls under "entertainment" but "entertainment" doesn't fall under "fun." In other words, simple fun is just one way games entertain players.

Why should a game score an 8 when it doesn't compare to other 8s?

hakanakumono

Because games are in different genres :roll:

I love this thread. :lol:

I'm like the only one who'sbeen hyped for WSR since it was announced.

I love this thread. :lol:

I'm like the only one who'sbeen hyped for WSR since it was announced.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

wow, i now see why wii-bashers are getting nervous

the wii's catching up to the 360 in AAA exclusives (only 1 less), has already caught up in terms of AA exclusives, and vastly outpaces the 360 in terms of A exclusives

wow, i now see why wii-bashers are getting nervous

the wii's catching up to the 360 in AAA exclusives (only 1 less), has already caught up in terms of AA exclusives, and vastly outpaces the 360 in terms of A exclusives

JB730

[QUOTE="JB730"]

wow, i now see why wii-bashers are getting nervous

the wii's catching up to the 360 in AAA exclusives (only 1 less), has already caught up in terms of AA exclusives, and vastly outpaces the 360 in terms of A exclusives

DeadMagazines

[QUOTE="JB730"]

wow, i now see why wii-bashers are getting nervous

the wii's catching up to the 360 in AAA exclusives (only 1 less), has already caught up in terms of AA exclusives, and vastly outpaces the 360 in terms of A exclusives

DeadMagazines

sorry, all i see is damage control

AAA/AA/A exclusive count dictates how good a console is according to system wars rule #41921 Section C

wii-tang!

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="JB730"]

wow, i now see why wii-bashers are getting nervous

the wii's catching up to the 360 in AAA exclusives (only 1 less), has already caught up in terms of AA exclusives, and vastly outpaces the 360 in terms of A exclusives

JB730

sorry, all i see is damage control

AAA/AA/A exclusive count dictates how good a console is according to system wars rule #41921 Section C

wii-tang!

[QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] EVERY GAME the wii has is exclusive, its skewed and obvious, why is it hard to understand? You factor in the ps3/360 multiplats the wii doesn't get and you'll see the wii's library is still way behind because it misses out on a ton of games. But w/e, keep thinking it has more quality games. DeadMagazines

sorry, all i see is damage control

AAA/AA/A exclusive count dictates how good a console is according to system wars rule #41921 Section C

wii-tang!

since i don't see exclusive tags on those games, they are of no concern to me as a hardcore system wars poster

:lol:

I love threads full of damage control, they always keep me entertained.

That is a great score even though I was not expecting it. Sure online play would have made the game better but that doesn't mean it is not fun, and as far as I know having fun is the only reason I play games.

I love this thread. :lol:

I'm like the only one who'sbeen hyped for WSR since it was announced.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Doesn't surprise me considering your sig

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="JB730"]

sorry, all i see is damage control

AAA/AA/A exclusive count dictates how good a console is according to system wars rule #41921 Section C

wii-tang!

JB730

since i don't see exclusive tags on those games, they are of no concern to me as a hardcore system wars poster

[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

I love this thread. :lol:

I'm like the only one who'sbeen hyped for WSR since it was announced.

smartcriminal

Doesn't surprise me considering your sig

What does it say? That I'm a sheep? Duh. :P

[QUOTE="JB730"]

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] Ok keep ignoring games like COD4, Bioshock, AC, Fallout and countless others don't exist. You're only fooling yourself and the other sheep that have their hands over their ears. DeadMagazines

since i don't see exclusive tags on those games, they are of no concern to me as a hardcore system wars poster

i'm about as hardcore as it gets. as soon as a game looses exclusivity, i toss it out of the window like a frisbee.

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="JB730"]

since i don't see exclusive tags on those games, they are of no concern to me as a hardcore system wars poster

JB730

i'm about as hardcore as it gets. system wars has no room for tolerance to non-exclusivity. as soon as a game looses exclusivity, i toss it out of the window like a frisbee.

EVERY GAME the wii has is exclusive, its skewed and obvious, why is it hard to understand? You factor in the ps3/360 multiplats the wii doesn't get and you'll see the wii's library is still way behind because it misses out on a ton of games. But w/e, keep thinking it has more quality games. DeadMagazines

Oh this is so rich. When I see people compare the PS3 to the 360 all they want to talk about is exclusives, exclusives, and guess what exclusives. But but L4D and Mass Effect don't count as I can get it on PC. Multiplats don't count because only exclusives matter!!!

Now low and behold the Wii is catching up in exclusives apparently AND NOW multiplats become so freaking imporant LOL.

You have to make up your minds here is overall library being taken into account like it should or are is it going to be just exclusives. But then again if people are hating on Wii they'll talk about multiplats and if they are hating on 360 they'll talk about how multiplats don't matter.

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] EVERY GAME the wii has is exclusive, its skewed and obvious, why is it hard to understand? You factor in the ps3/360 multiplats the wii doesn't get and you'll see the wii's library is still way behind because it misses out on a ton of games. But w/e, keep thinking it has more quality games. The__Havoc

Oh this is so rich. When I see people compare the PS3 to the 360 all they want to talk about is exclusives, exclusives, and guess what exclusives. But but L4D and Mass Effect don't count as I can get it on PC. Multiplats don't count because only exclusives matter!!!

Now low and behold the Wii is catching up in exclusives apparently AND NOW multiplats become so freaking imporant LOL.

You have to make up your minds here is overall library being taken into account like it should or are is it going to be just exclusives. But then again if people are hating on Wii they'll talk about multiplats and if they are hating on 360 they'll talk about how multiplats don't matter.

All the wii has is exclusive, very terrible ones at that. The exclusives that come out on 360/Ps3 are 7/10 times decent games that get great scores. How many wii games can you say that about. Wait im asking the wrong person, you will of course love the 300 Mario and 40 zelda and god knows how many Metroid prime games come out.

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] EVERY GAME the wii has is exclusive, its skewed and obvious, why is it hard to understand? You factor in the ps3/360 multiplats the wii doesn't get and you'll see the wii's library is still way behind because it misses out on a ton of games. But w/e, keep thinking it has more quality games. The__Havoc

Oh this is so rich. When I see people compare the PS3 to the 360 all they want to talk about is exclusives, exclusives, and guess what exclusives. But but L4D and Mass Effect don't count as I can get it on PC. Multiplats don't count because only exclusives matter!!!

Now low and behold the Wii is catching up in exclusives apparently AND NOW multiplats become so freaking imporant LOL.

You have to make up your minds here is overall library being taken into account like it should or are is it going to be just exclusives. But then again if people are hating on Wii they'll talk about multiplats and if they are hating on 360 they'll talk about how multiplats don't matter.

[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] EVERY GAME the wii has is exclusive, its skewed and obvious, why is it hard to understand? You factor in the ps3/360 multiplats the wii doesn't get and you'll see the wii's library is still way behind because it misses out on a ton of games. But w/e, keep thinking it has more quality games. DeadMagazines

Oh this is so rich. When I see people compare the PS3 to the 360 all they want to talk about is exclusives, exclusives, and guess what exclusives. But but L4D and Mass Effect don't count as I can get it on PC. Multiplats don't count because only exclusives matter!!!

Now low and behold the Wii is catching up in exclusives apparently AND NOW multiplats become so freaking imporant LOL.

You have to make up your minds here is overall library being taken into account like it should or are is it going to be just exclusives. But then again if people are hating on Wii they'll talk about multiplats and if they are hating on 360 they'll talk about how multiplats don't matter.

I was speaking for the forums in general not you individually. Probably should have specified that because well the way I worded it, yeah it seems like I'm directly speaking to you lol

• All the wii has is exclusive,
• very terrible ones at that.

The exclusives that come out on 360/Ps3 are 7/10 times decent games that get great scores. How many wii games can you say that about. Wait im asking the wrong person,

• you will of course love the 300 Mario and
• 40 zelda and
• god knows how many Metroid prime games come out.

smartcriminal

• Isn't that all you people care about in SW? The all might exclusives?
• I don't care about your opinion.
• Please name me these 300 Mario games
• And while you're at it these 40 Zelda games
• Only 4

And while you're at it don't you love how great Nintendo's character Terry Bogard is :roll:

[QUOTE="smartcriminal"]

• All the wii has is exclusive,
• very terrible ones at that.

The exclusives that come out on 360/Ps3 are 7/10 times decent games that get great scores. How many wii games can you say that about. Wait im asking the wrong person,

• you will of course love the 300 Mario and
• 40 zelda and
• god knows how many Metroid prime games come out.

The__Havoc

• Isn't that all you people care about in SW? The all might exclusives?
• I don't care about your opinion.
• Please name me these 300 Mario games
• And while you're at it these 40 Zelda games
• Only 4

And while you're at it don't you love how great Nintendo's character Terry Bogard is :roll:

Actually I think there's nearly 20 zelda games. There is FAR more then only 4.