Windows 8 is now out

Lol, that was funny, like Windows users don't know the UI features they need.FIipMode

torn because I use my TV as a monitor and frankly W7 is still not quite designed to be on such a large screen. However I need that start button and don't want to have to use some rando hack/app to have one. hmmmm wanna get dat cheap price.

Pray_to_me

I use it on on my HDTV, don't seem to have any problems ...

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Lol, that was funny, like Windows users don't know the UI features they need.AdrianWerner

Also because it works... I mean, just because it's new doesn't mean I need it or it's good.

Aka Vista...

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Lol, that was funny, like Windows users don't know the UI features they need.Bebi_vegeta

Also because it works... I mean, just because it's new doesn't mean I need it or it's good.

Aka Vista...

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

If MS can implement Windows 8 features with the Xbox that would be so awesome. It would probably be next gen though.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]They don't. They have shown that many times before. They prefer inferior outdated solutions because they are familiar.

AdrianWerner

Also because it works... I mean, just because it's new doesn't mean I need it or it's good.

Aka Vista...

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

If MS can implement Windows 8 features with the Xbox that would be so awesome. It would probably be next gen though.

ShadowMoses900

Im getting one copy free from Microsoft Expert Zone, so yes, I'm probobly gonna put that on either my laptop or desktop. I pretty much have to learn it and get used to it for my job, so I need one of my PC's running it at least. From what I have played with it so far at work, it's not really that bad as people seem to be making it out to be.

ryangcnx-2

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Also because it works... I mean, just because it's new doesn't mean I need it or it's good.

Aka Vista...

Bebi_vegeta

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.Bebi_vegeta

Which they did. Windows 8 is a lot better than Windows 7

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

Bebi_vegeta

Great examples proving my point, considering people initially clinged even to that crap and refused to switch to Windows XP.

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

Bebi_vegeta

Yes. It's much lighter and faster OS with smaller memory foot print. Once proper drivers hit the boost will be noticable.

Now, if you're on desktop only then there's no huge incentive to upgrade as long as you don't mind missing out on some games. On laptops though (even without touchscreens) it's a great update.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Go back to DOS then ;)

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

Plagueless

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

Faster boot ? OK, I'd love to see a clean window 7 vs window 8... Also,I have a SSD...

Better perfomances in games ? So one game ?

Snappier interface... what is that ?

Less ressources hungry... like how much ?

Yes. It's much lighter and faster OS with smaller memory foot print. Once proper drivers hit the boost will be noticable.

Now, if you're on desktop only then there's no huge incentive to upgrade as long as you don't mind missing out on some games. On laptops though (even without touchscreens) it's a great update.

AdrianWerner

Windows 8 may be better for some, but not for everyone...

Point me out to people clinging to that crap of Windows 2000 and Me, please.

What games will I be missing out ?

I don't really see any improvements for Windows 8, aside from faster boot times and alleged better overall performance. That together with user-interface decisions that I think are stupid, I see no reason to spend money on it.Loegi

Now, if you're on desktop only then there's no huge incentive to upgrade as long as you don't mind missing out on some games. On laptops though (even without touchscreens) it's a great update.

AdrianWerner

Out of curiosity, what games would those be?

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Now, if you're on desktop only then there's no huge incentive to upgrade as long as you don't mind missing out on some games. On laptops though (even without touchscreens) it's a great update.

Rocker6

Out of curiosity, what games would those be?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Now, if you're on desktop only then there's no huge incentive to upgrade as long as you don't mind missing out on some games. On laptops though (even without touchscreens) it's a great update.

hexashadow13

Out of curiosity, what games would those be?

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Out of curiosity, what games would those be?

MBirdy88

Windows 8 may be better for some, but not for everyone...Bebi_vegeta

Indeed. It's not better for people who hate faster boot times and better performance. For those people it indeed isn't a good upgrade.

Point me out to people clinging to that crap of Windows 2000 and Me, please.

Bebi_vegeta

http://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/18829228/windows-xp-slow-to-take-hold.htm

On the first anniversary of Windows XP's release, Microsoft has little to celebrate. ...One solution provider said Windows XP hasn't had any impact on his sales over the past year. "I've not had a single client that wanted to upgrade from any previous version to XP, especially from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. There's just so little difference," said Jeffrey Sherman, president of Warever Computing, a Los Angeles-based solution provider specializing in networks.

http://news.cnet.com/Users-cling-to-old-Microsoft-operating-systems/2100-1016_3-5121458.html

Users cling to old Microsoft operating systems. Windows 2000 was the most common OS, running on slightly more than half of machines, while its predecessor, Windows NT4, was still used on 13.3 percent of desktops. Windows XP, the most current version of Windows, was found on just 6.6 percent of the machines. <- And that's from december 2003..two years after XP launched

What games will I be missing out ?

Bebi_vegeta

Indeed. It's not better for people who hate faster boot times and better performance. For those people it indeed isn't a good upgrade.

http://www.crn.com/news/channel-programs/18829228/windows-xp-slow-to-take-hold.htm

On the first anniversary of Windows XP's release, Microsoft has little to celebrate. ...One solution provider said Windows XP hasn't had any impact on his sales over the past year. "I've not had a single client that wanted to upgrade from any previous version to XP, especially from Windows 2000 to Windows XP. There's just so little difference," said Jeffrey Sherman, president of Warever Computing, a Los Angeles-based solution provider specializing in networks.

http://news.cnet.com/Users-cling-to-old-Microsoft-operating-systems/2100-1016_3-5121458.html

Users cling to old Microsoft operating systems. Windows 2000 was the most common OS, running on slightly more than half of machines, while its predecessor, Windows NT4, was still used on 13.3 percent of desktops. Windows XP, the most current version of Windows, was found on just 6.6 percent of the machines. <- And that's from december 2003..two years after XP launched

Skulls of Shogun is the first one that will be W8-only.

AdrianWerner

Faster boot times... my SSD says Hi. Boot times, really stopped being a issue since then.

From what I can gather, it's more companies that cling to old product... not really consummers ?

So, skulls of Shogun is Xbox arcade game which works with W8... I really taught you were talking about big hits here, like when they stated Halo 2 work only work on Vista or something like that.

I went from XP to Vista to W7... I only wanted Vista for Dx10 games and also got it for free. I got windows 7 because it was a big improvement on Vista on just about everything. But as of now, I don't see the need to go W8 over W7.

I would of skipped Vista, if it wasn't for the only fact of Dx10 and higher.

Now I'm asking the same question... Unless games are really going to run better or more big games become unavailable... W8 won't be for me.

Faster boot times... my SSD says Hi. Boot times, really stopped being a issue since then.Bebi_vegeta

They still boot faster.It also resumes faster. Both are godsend on laptop and a nice little bonus on desktop. Same with faster speed of launchig apps.

So, skulls of Shogun is Xbox arcade game which works with W8... I really taught you were talking about big hits here, like when they stated Halo 2 work only work on Vista or something like that.Bebi_vegeta

I'm pretty sure Skulls of Shogun will actually be better incentive to get W8 than the garbage that Halo 2 port was to switch to Vista

Now I'm asking the same question... Unless games are really going to run better or more big games become unavailable... W8 won't be for me.

Bebi_vegeta

nope... stickin with my Win 7 64bit.... thx

Win8 looks bleh

Total War: ROME 2? What about other titles? And where did that graph come from?

I can make a graph too, but it won't make it fact.

63%... Glad to see.

I hope Windows 8 does horrible for MS. So we wont have to put up with this BS again when windows 9 is ready to roll.

They still boot faster.It also resumes faster. Both are godsend on laptop and a nice little bonus on desktop. Same with faster speed of launchig apps.

I'm pretty sure Skulls of Shogun will actually be better incentive to get W8 than the garbage that Halo 2 port was to switch to Vista

Sure, but you really have no argument against Windows 8. It's objectively better OS than Windows 7. Just because you prefer to use inferior older OS doesn't change that. Heck..some people still see no reason to move from XP either.

AdrianWerner

Is there a actual comparaison between both OS with SSD ?

Oh Halo 2 was just an example, I wouldn't upgrade my OS for either game...

Well the argument is, money vs what I'm really getting... and, actually waiting for a real review and comparison.

I need a OS that's going to give me something worth it... as of what I've seen, gaming on W8 has it's up and down... and that's a very important factor for me.

I don't blame people keeping XP... if it's working, why fix it ? Maybe I'd still be on XP if it wasn't for gaming and the EOL of XP on every support level.

I'm pretty sure you have inferior PC hardware then what's actually available, why haven't you upgraded ?

[QUOTE="Loegi"]I don't really see any improvements for Windows 8, aside from faster boot times and alleged better overall performance. That together with user-interface decisions that I think are stupid, I see no reason to spend money on it.MBirdy88

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Loegi"]I don't really see any improvements for Windows 8, aside from faster boot times and alleged better overall performance. That together with user-interface decisions that I think are stupid, I see no reason to spend money on it.Loegi

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] if it didnt have metro and just had those "minor" improvements you hypocrits would be salvating at the mouth.MBirdy88

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="Loegi"] Nah. It would probably still have useless bloat, which I'll never want in a new OS.Loegi

And Windows 8, a new OS, has less bloat than its predecessor. :?

Aside from performance, is there anything new/different with the desktop portion?

Aside from performance, is there anything new/different with the desktop portion?

Link256

They removed the start button

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] better ditch 7 then since 8 has less bloat even with metro.The_Game21x

And Windows 8, a new OS, has less bloat than its predecessor. :?

I may wait on this...it's always a good idea to wait on new version of Windows until the first service pack comes out...

For anyone who wants Windows Media Center and happens to have Windows 8 Pro, you can currently get WMC for FREE for a limited time.

Get Windows Media Center for free

63%... Glad to see.

I hope Windows 8 does horrible for MS. So we wont have to put up with this BS again when windows 9 is ready to roll.

Truth_Hurts_U

Agreed. Windows 8 is a horrible piece of sh!t and I hope it won't be like that in the next Windows. If it does, then I'll be looking at Linux or other alternatives.

It's kinda funny how everyone is talking crap about Win 8 here meanwhile most people are raving about it elsewhere.percech

[QUOTE="percech"]It's kinda funny how everyone is talking crap about Win 8 here meanwhile most people are raving about it elsewhere.MBirdy88

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Also because it works... I mean, just because it's new doesn't mean I need it or it's good.

Aka Vista...

Bebi_vegeta

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="percech"]It's kinda funny how everyone is talking crap about Win 8 here meanwhile most people are raving about it elsewhere.percech

That's a really nice feature... But these days, application do this for themselfs.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Go back to DOS then ;)

Plus nobody is forcing you to upgrade. But you can't expect the whole industry to stop moving forward just because you like to cling to old stuff. That old stuff still works, so it's not like you suddenly loose anything anyway

And Vista was needed, it was just rushed

WilliamRLBaker

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

Yeah, for servers, Window 2000 was better. But my argument was more intended for home consummers.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] system wars and backwards elitests for you.Bebi_vegeta

That's a really nice feature... But these days, application do this for themselfs.

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

63%... Glad to see.

I hope Windows 8 does horrible for MS. So we wont have to put up with this BS again when windows 9 is ready to roll.

GamerwillzPS

Agreed. Windows 8 is a horrible piece of sh!t and I hope it won't be like that in the next Windows. If it does, then I'll be looking at Linux or other alternatives.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="percech"]It's kinda funny how everyone is talking crap about Win 8 here meanwhile most people are raving about it elsewhere.percech

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

63%... Glad to see.

I hope Windows 8 does horrible for MS. So we wont have to put up with this BS again when windows 9 is ready to roll.

WilliamRLBaker

Agreed. Windows 8 is a horrible piece of sh!t and I hope it won't be like that in the next Windows. If it does, then I'll be looking at Linux or other alternatives.

English please.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="percech"] People's complaint here is the UI. I guess it's such a terrible thing to have everything you need updated for you when you startup your computer instead of having to bring up your browser and search them one by one. When did convenience become such a terrible thing? There was a huge thread on IGN from people who actually bought it and are loving it. They said they probably won't go back to Win 7 ever again. Win 8 sure does have a lot of smart, interesting features.percech

That's a really nice feature... But these days, application do this for themselfs.

Nice way to end a argument...

So what's this 15$ about ?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Again, if you're going to make a new product, atleast make it better.

Fine, i'll give you another example, Windows 2000 and Me...

As a gamer, does Window 8 offer anything concret in performance gains ?

Bebi_vegeta

Yeah, for servers, Window 2000 was better. But my argument was more intended for home consummers.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] windows ME sucked but windows 2000 as an adminisrator business OS worked it also it had a large consumer following because it was far more stable then 95 98 and definitely ME i have a friend that used 2000 till xp was released.WilliamRLBaker

Yeah, for servers, Window 2000 was better. But my argument was more intended for home consummers.

Yeah but windows 98 was pretty much ok.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] system wars and backwards elitests for you.GamerwillzPS