Windows 8 is now out

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Its meant to though.... its not a desktop replacement. that doesnt change the fact that to use it for what it is, its still dead simple.MBirdy88

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] the problem is it is a desktop replacement, microsoft mixed the tablet OS with the desktop OS, and they both end up harder to use because of it. I had windows 8 installed on my tablet and its terrible. If you have to get to more detailed settings you have to open the desktop control panel...savagetwinkie

I have no need to switch OS. Win 7 is good right now.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Your going to have to give more detail than that. I didnt find normal desktop hard on a tablet at all. but then the tasks only available through control panel are ones you only change rarely.MBirdy88

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] Using a normal desktop on a tablet is a lot harder to use, you just don't have that kind of precision with fingers, but I'll admit most of the time you don't need to use the desktop on a tablet. But reversing it to desktops... well the desktop experience is fairly butchered.savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="ultimate-k"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0fsyb-ttcw&feature=plcp

This video shows you the main reasons why w8 is horrible, having two complety different operating systems designed for two different devices, badly intergrated its horrible. Iam not willing to spend money so I can have the inconvenience of the metro os in the way, and prefomance boost? My sdd says hi, and half of the bench marks tested shows that w7 perfomes better, and I dont realy care for 1fps increase in some games.

MBirdy88

2 months old, and it explained everything perfectly fine, stop being a fanboy.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] We will have to agree to disagree on that giving i have had preview for months and now dreamspark for about a month running on my main desktop and laptop and it is as fluid as windows 7. I even find myself playing around with apps when im bored. The all-in-one OS really does work, any little issues are nitpicks in comparison to the overall potential gain... really really minor. if anyone has trouble with this interface or any new features with keyboard and mouse? i stick with my "dense" remark... purely, as it all works smoothly.MBirdy88

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

savagetwinkie

The full version of Win 8 Pro is 69 dollars.The upgrade is just 39 dollars which I purchased and installed today. This is not really hard to look up. Those prices last until the beginning of next year.

There is also a hack to add the start button to the desktop. Again not hard to look up.

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] its missing lots of power user options and keyboard shortcutssavagetwinkie

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

The full version of Win 8 Pro is 69 dollars.The upgrade is just 39 dollars which I purchased and installed today. This is not really hard to look up. Those prices last until the beginning of next year.

There is also a hack to add the start button to the desktop. Again not hard to look up.

that's an upgrade mister well informed. Your certainly know more than I

although the full version that doesn't require you to have a previous copy of windows is the system builder version.

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

Quoted for f***ing truth.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] the problem is it is a desktop replacement, microsoft mixed the tablet OS with the desktop OS, and they both end up harder to use because of it. I had windows 8 installed on my tablet and its terrible. If you have to get to more detailed settings you have to open the desktop control panel...savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Not true at all, maybe once, but you can pin absolutely anything to the start menu,MBirdy88

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] the problem is it is a desktop replacement, microsoft mixed the tablet OS with the desktop OS, and they both end up harder to use because of it. I had windows 8 installed on my tablet and its terrible. If you have to get to more detailed settings you have to open the desktop control panel...savagetwinkie

Um... all you have to do is pin whatever you want to the start menu. You can then proceed to customize them in any way you like. I'm a minimalist so my start menu is pretty clean. But like I said above actually play around and try to learn the new UI. There was a time when using explorer was also new to us all. If I find myself using or playing something a lot I simply pin it to the start menu. It's actually much faster than searching for something every time you use something. You could set it up like mY girlfriend does. She puts all her everyday stuff on the desktop and the other every once in a while stuff in the start menu. Metro UI is just far more customizable than the old explore.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

FIipMode

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Not true at all, maybe once, but you can pin absolutely anything to the start menu,FPSfan1985

Um... all you have to do is pin whatever you want to the start menu. You can then proceed to customize them in any way you like. I'm a minimalist so my start menu is pretty clean. But like I said above actually play around and try to learn the new UI. There was a time when using explorer was also new to us all. If I find myself using or playing something a lot I simply pin it to the start menu. It's actually much faster than searching for something every time you use something. You could set it up like mY girlfriend does. She puts all her everyday stuff on the desktop and the other every once in a while stuff in the start menu. Metro UI is just far more customizable than the old explore.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Not true at all, maybe once, but you can pin absolutely anything to the start menu,FPSfan1985

Um... all you have to do is pin whatever you want to the start menu. You can then proceed to customize them in any way you like. I'm a minimalist so my start menu is pretty clean. But like I said above actually play around and try to learn the new UI. There was a time when using explorer was also new to us all. If I find myself using or playing something a lot I simply pin it to the start menu. It's actually much faster than searching for something every time you use something. You could set it up like mY girlfriend does. She puts all her everyday stuff on the desktop and the other every once in a while stuff in the start menu. Metro UI is just far more customizable than the old explore.

Man, that is a small area of usable space, ugly too.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

MBirdy88

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

FIipMode

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

The_Game21x

Quoted for f***ing truth.

That's not even true there is still metro crap in the desktop.

Anyone watching one of the many 30-40 min youtube videos on win 8... Will tell you the same. I watched 3 of them. It's nothing like windows 7 when switched to desktop mode.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] and its more spread out, its far more mouse movement to open applications, the fact that you can't just hit the windows key, type in "netwok" and have the options for network pop up is critically bad for someone like me. Microsoft took out many features that stoopid people didn't use because they were the vast majority of people that will ended up with the OS. They focused mainly on the touch interface. For the couple of things windows 8 does right it's nice, but not better in terms of usability, and for the things it does wrong it is a detriment to productivity. But hey there is always linux! FIipMode

Um... all you have to do is pin whatever you want to the start menu. You can then proceed to customize them in any way you like. I'm a minimalist so my start menu is pretty clean. But like I said above actually play around and try to learn the new UI. There was a time when using explorer was also new to us all. If I find myself using or playing something a lot I simply pin it to the start menu. It's actually much faster than searching for something every time you use something. You could set it up like mY girlfriend does. She puts all her everyday stuff on the desktop and the other every once in a while stuff in the start menu. Metro UI is just far more customizable than the old explore.

Man, that is a small area of usable space, ugly too.

Your work space in metro is as big or little as you want it to be. As for how it looks, I like it.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"] Not true at all, maybe once, but you can pin absolutely anything to the start menu,FPSfan1985

Um... all you have to do is pin whatever you want to the start menu. You can then proceed to customize them in any way you like. I'm a minimalist so my start menu is pretty clean. But like I said above actually play around and try to learn the new UI. There was a time when using explorer was also new to us all. If I find myself using or playing something a lot I simply pin it to the start menu. It's actually much faster than searching for something every time you use something. You could set it up like mY girlfriend does. She puts all her everyday stuff on the desktop and the other every once in a while stuff in the start menu. Metro UI is just far more customizable than the old explore.

it's not faster than searching for stuff, and if i have to click on something to start it I'd rather not have it all spread out, I use 2 27" monitors for work, it just doesn't work as well. Having a small menu that's well organized and not to big makes it easy to find stuff, and having a search that searches everything including recent documents in the same start menu is far better functionality for work.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

FIipMode

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]So basically clicking in the right corner of the screen to search is too much for you. I don't like everything about it, but I really can't fault them for trying something new with their OS. If they didn't do anything people would be b1tching about that. I find that most of the UI complaints are just silly. I'm not completely sold on it, but I think the pros outweigh the cons and there is a bunch of silly FUD going on. I've been using it for months (pre release) with no problems at all. And the goddamn thing is stable as a rock.

MBirdy88

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]And the fact that the search takes up the entire screen and isn't universal and you have to make it look for the files specifically instead of apps, yes that is too much for me and worse than the last OS. I wouldn't have b*tched if they just improved on ways I use my computer and not regressed ways in the process.savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] It is a nuscance yea, I imagine this will be patched in later, the settings tabs are bare at the moment, something like this could easily be added in to tick off such as "Allow universal search"MBirdy88

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

No you have to use metro to search and when you boot up the screeen, and the shut down, that's already seeing it too much for me to want to upgrade, it's speed improvements in desktop mode are negligible and since I never shut down, faster boot doesn't mean much.

Win7 launched with all I wanted. Who are you talking to with the bolded?

FIipMode

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]So basically clicking in the right corner of the screen to search is too much for you. I don't like everything about it, but I really can't fault them for trying something new with their OS. If they didn't do anything people would be b1tching about that. I find that most of the UI complaints are just silly. I'm not completely sold on it, but I think the pros outweigh the cons and there is a bunch of silly FUD going on. I've been using it for months (pre release) with no problems at all. And the goddamn thing is stable as a rock.

heretrix

Often enough that a search that borked is incredibly annoying, not the only reason though, metro, not booting to the desktop, no start menu are other reasons I won't bother, especially for neglible improvements, I hardly shut down and Win7 and Win8 run the same speed on my computer.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Again, Windows 8 isn't going to be easy to use. That's my problem, and that's a huge problem for everybody. It's built for computer illiterates.

What I'm hoping is that Microsoft only made this OS specifically for tablet devices while continuing to support the desktop OS, aka Windows 7. I won't have anything to complain about if Microsoft are dealing with 2 separate OSs at the same time.

GamerwillzPS

There's something wrong here...

Then explain to me what's wrong with the traditional desktop? It's perfectly fine and easy to use. Why change?

Metro UI looks like a nightmare to use.

just another windows 98 , ill wait for one that is without all these incompatibility issues like 7 has

Alright, I have been using Windows 8 for like 3 days and I will say that I prefer it now over Windows 7.

Using Windows 8 made me realize how much I DIDN'T use the Start button in Windows 7. All I used it before was to search an application and really, that was all that was useful out of it.

Now in Windows 8, I can see my mail, my skype, my Xbox, Netflix (this is a big deal since using Netflix before on PC required you to go on the internet browser, login, and watch it using Silverlight.)

Now I CAN WATCH NETFLIX IN 5 Seconds! Similar to on consoles, but faster and better!

All the little apps are so nice, easy to use, and quick to use.

Windows 8 > Windows 7

and this is coming from a Windows 8 hater from before launch.

Meh, I won't change out of 7 until they make me. Just like XP.

Alright, I have been using Windows 8 for like 3 days and I will say that I prefer it now over Windows 7.

Using Windows 8 made me realize how much I DIDN'T use the Start button in Windows 7. All I used it before was to search an application and really, that was all that was useful out of it.

Now in Windows 8, I can see my mail, my skype, my Xbox, Netflix (this is a big deal since using Netflix before on PC required you to go on the internet browser, login, and watch it using Silverlight.)

Now I CAN WATCH NETFLIX IN 5 Seconds! Similar to on consoles, but faster and better!

All the little apps are so nice, easy to use, and quick to use.

Windows 8 > Windows 7

and this is coming from a Windows 8 hater from before launch.

ShadowDeathX

Hmm, interesting.

You know what? I'm a Windows 8 hater. :P

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

I love how most the people hating on the Win 8 UI don't know what the hell they are talking about.

Don't like metro? Don't use it. The traditional desktop is one click away. If that is such a complicated task to deal with then I really find it hard to believe how you function on a daily basis.

If you aren't using a goddamn tablet then what the f*ck are you using the tablet interface for?

Win 8 runs better than the previous version, boots quicker, communicates better info on your PCs systems, IS STABLE and is 70 bucks for the full pro version.

Jesus Christ on a skateboard. Some of you guys are freaking mental. Have any of you seen a Windows OS come out of the gate with everything you wanted? If you say yes..Well, you are a goddamn liar.

heretrix

The full version of Win 8 Pro is 69 dollars.The upgrade is just 39 dollars which I purchased and installed today. This is not really hard to look up. Those prices last until the beginning of next year.

There is also a hack to add the start button to the desktop. Again not hard to look up.

Take the benefits of a mobile phone. Simple, quick to install, quick to use apps and mix it with the benefits of a traditional desktop, and you got Windows 8. People are going to hate on the removal of the start button, but really. How useful is that thing? Only use is to search for an install application. You get nothing else out of it. With the "Modern" layout, you get so much information and you can organize the diagram how ever you like. Drop all your games into one category. Your news feeds on another. Social on another. System info and application on another. Much faster to zoom out, click on a group, and click on the app instead of going through the old Start button layout. And if you really want the old layout, you can. I tried installing it and I uninstalled it 10 minutes after. I realized how useless that thing was. ShadowDeathX

Well I use the front menu as an extra taskbars but I never actually go into the "all programs" section screw that I just type in what I want and click on the results that match what I want

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Take the benefits of a mobile phone. Simple, quick to install, quick to use apps and mix it with the benefits of a traditional desktop, and you got Windows 8. People are going to hate on the removal of the start button, but really. How useful is that thing? Only use is to search for an install application. You get nothing else out of it. With the "Modern" layout, you get so much information and you can organize the diagram how ever you like. Drop all your games into one category. Your news feeds on another. Social on another. System info and application on another. Much faster to zoom out, click on a group, and click on the app instead of going through the old Start button layout. And if you really want the old layout, you can. I tried installing it and I uninstalled it 10 minutes after. I realized how useless that thing was. NoodleFighter

Well I use the front menu as an extra taskbars but I never actually go into the "all programs" section screw that I just type in what I want and click on the results that match what I want

I did not know you could do this until today. Pretty cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSaMZ4MHyWE

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Alright, I have been using Windows 8 for like 3 days and I will say that I prefer it now over Windows 7.

Using Windows 8 made me realize how much I DIDN'T use the Start button in Windows 7. All I used it before was to search an application and really, that was all that was useful out of it.

Now in Windows 8, I can see my mail, my skype, my Xbox, Netflix (this is a big deal since using Netflix before on PC required you to go on the internet browser, login, and watch it using Silverlight.)

Now I CAN WATCH NETFLIX IN 5 Seconds! Similar to on consoles, but faster and better!

All the little apps are so nice, easy to use, and quick to use.

Windows 8 > Windows 7

and this is coming from a Windows 8 hater from before launch.

GamerwillzPS

Hmm, interesting.

You know what? I'm a Windows 8 hater. :P