Witcher 2 sells 1.1 million copies in 7 months.

Fable 3 sold 2 million in 7 months

That is not really impressive at all, seems more like a disaster to me

loosingENDS

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Fable 3 sold 2 million in 7 months

That is not really impressive at all, seems more like a disaster to me

soulitane

I've never played a Fable game before. I'm not gonna judge a game I haven't played, but I heard something along the lines that you can't die in Fable, and I lost all interest.

I've never played a Fable game before. I'm not gonna judge a game I haven't played, but I heard something along the lines that you can't die in Fable, and I lost all interest.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Fable 3 sold 2 million in 7 months

That is not really impressive at all, seems more like a disaster to me

GiantAssPanda

Great sales that are much bigger than they estimated. Will propably reach close to 2,5-3 mln life-time for PC version alone.

What I found even more amazing is Witcher 1 selling 400K in 2011. Stuff like that is really only possible on PC and shows that supporting your community pays back tenfold.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]When the f*ck did over 1 million copies become a bad thing?WilliamRLBaker

Fable 3 sold 2 million in 7 months

That is not really impressive at all, seems more like a disaster to me

loosingENDS

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]When the f*ck did over 1 million copies become a bad thing?AdrianWerner

Nice, correct me if I am wrong but on pc you don"t pay publishing rights, yes?

That's.. not really something to brag about.

That's.. not really something to brag about.

waltefmoney

That was done mostly byword of mouth.

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That's.. not really something to brag about.

super600

That was done mostly byword of mouth.

Well that would be stupid, considering that the development budget is pretty big.

It's not that the number is bad, but I can see why they're putting the game on consoles.

Good for them. For a not too well known company that had near zero advertising on a very core type of game exclusive to one platform... that is pretty good.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That's.. not really something to brag about.

waltefmoney

That was done mostly byword of mouth.

Well that would be stupid, considering that the development budget is pretty big.

It's not that the number is bad, but I can see why they're putting the game on consoles.

Unless they heavily advertise the 360 version of the game it`s not going to help increase the sale numbersfor the franchise.

Unless they heavily advertise the 360 version of the game it`s not going to help increase the sale numbersfor the franchise.

super600

Well no sh*t. They should have gone to Warner Bros. to publish and market the PC version.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] when 1 million barely covers most budgets...even by smaller studio standards.musalala

Nice, correct me if I am wrong but on pc you don"t pay publishing rights, yes?

Publishers fund games, and take a cut of the revenue the game makes. PC devs aren't immune to requiring publishers.

However, CD Projekt Red did self-publish the game through digital outlets, but I think they're having Warner Bros bring the 360 retail release to America, so Warner Bros will see a cut of each 360 version sold.

The only way a developer can avoid paying anyone anything is to both self-publish their game, and to sell it on their own retail outlet. CD Projekt does that on their website GOG.com, so they see 100% of all money coming through that website.

However they give a cut of each copy sold through any retail chain, and that includes PC digital distributers like Steam.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

That's.. not really something to brag about.

waltefmoney

That was done mostly byword of mouth.

Well that would be stupid, considering that the development budget is pretty big.

It's not that the number is bad, but I can see why they're putting the game on consoles.

Pretty big? I didn't know 10 million dollars was pretty big.DragonfireXZ95

For a game with sales like that it is.

Well that would be stupid, considering that the development budget is pretty big.

It's not that the number is bad, but I can see why they're putting the game on consoles.

waltefmoney

The budget is less than 10 millions (8, IIRC). People tend to forget that you can develop high production values games on PC for much less than on consoles. Then again, console development budgets are bloated by advertising.

Considering the budget, the niche aspect and the lack of advertising, the sales for TW2 are actually pretty good. All the more so since unlike console games (except Nintendo ones), PC games have long legs. TW2 will keep on selling for years.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Pretty big? I didn't know 10 million dollars was pretty big.waltefmoney

For a game with sales like that it is.

No it's not. Let's average each copy out at 35 dollars earned per copy. That's a 38.5 million dollar deal. They made a profit of 28.5 million dollars. :|DragonfireXZ95

They've sold like 800k copies at retail. No platform royalty since it's on PC. Assuming this is close to the truth they were making around $15 per copy sold at retail.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]No it's not. Let's average each copy out at 35 dollars earned per copy. That's a 38.5 million dollar deal. They made a profit of 28.5 million dollars. :|waltefmoney

They've sold like 800k copies at retail. No platform royalty since it's on PC. Assuming this is close to the truth they were making around $15 per copy sold at retail.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Pretty big? I didn't know 10 million dollars was pretty big.waltefmoney

For a game with sales like that it is.

THat's not entirely correct. In some countries CD Project was the publisher. The sales in Poland were over 100K in first month.

AdrianWerner

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Huh? Even on consoles passing 1mln copies is a good news and passing 2mlns usually means making profit and there the budget are 5-10 times bigger than that.

AdrianWerner

Not necesseraly. I don't think Crackdown's budget was that big and it sold more than one million, yet MS hesitated to greenlight a sequel.

THHBO. thats all i have to saypolFdrawykS

Plus copies bought on GOG.com CD Projekt made 100% profit.

Don't forget the article says the Witcher sold over 400k units the last year. That s increadible for a game from 2007. It proves that it's worth to release games on PC because on the long run they sell crazy compared to console games wich have a good run for a month and after die off quickly.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]I think it'll do fine on 360, selling about 1.5 all year.Heisenderp

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"][QUOTE="Spartan070"]I think it'll do fine on 360, selling about 1.5 all year.JLF1MarkII

[QUOTE="polFdrawykS"]THHBO. thats all i have to sayferret-gamer

You really don't know?

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="polFdrawykS"]THHBO. thats all i have to saywaltefmoney

You really don't know?

No?ferret-gamer

It means the hermits have been owned.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] What does that mean?ferret-gamer

You really don't know?

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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] I sure hope you're joking. A game with zero advertising, no prequel, that's not a shooter and is made by an unknown developer selling well on consoles? When's the last time that happened?ferret-gamer

Didnt demon souls only sell a few hundred k even though it got fantastic reviews?

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[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] I sure hope you're joking. A game with zero advertising, no prequel, that's not a shooter and is made by an unknown developer selling well on consoles? When's the last time that happened?ferret-gamer

The hermits have been owned. It used to be banned but you can say it again :Psoulitane

The mods have been owned. :cool:

Didnt demon souls only sell a few hundred k even though it got fantastic reviews?

tenaka2

It think it's closing in on a million by now.

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Didnt demon souls only sell a few hundred k even though it got fantastic reviews?

JLF1MarkII

It think it's closing in on a million by now.

Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Didnt demon souls only sell a few hundred k even though it got fantastic reviews?

BlowMonkeys

It think it's closing in on a million by now.

Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

A couple of times each year.

JLF1MarkII

Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

BlowMonkeys

Funny, last year Gran Turismo 5 sold as much as The Witcher 2 did and it was released in 2010.

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It think it's closing in on a million by now.

JLF1MarkII

Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

No, they don't. ;)

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Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

waltefmoney

Funny, last year Gran Turismo 5 sold as much as The Witcher 2 did and it was released in 2010.

And who says the Witcher 2 won't sell as much as GT5 next year or even more? Actually those sales are pretty pittyfull if u look at the total numbers of PS3's sold.

Demon's Souls and catherine sold poorly compared to Witcher 2, bayonetta had an utter crapload of advertising.

ferret-gamer

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Funny, last year Gran Turismo 5 sold as much as The Witcher 2 did and it was released in 2010.

BlowMonkeys

And who says the Witcher 2 won't sell as much as GT5 next year or even more?

No one, but that's not really the point :|

No, they don't. ;)

BlowMonkeys

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Didnt demon souls only sell a few hundred k even though it got fantastic reviews?

BlowMonkeys

It think it's closing in on a million by now.

Console games don't sell over time. Something with used market.... Especially with SP games.

THe used market doesn't add to sales figures, if anything it reduces sales figures, a lot.