Witcher 3 sales | PC = 30%, Consoles = 70%

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#501 dakan45
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@Suppaman100: aside from the fact this was wrong but you didnt bother checking, steam sold over 70 million games in a few months. SO much for consoles, in a few years they will be extint.

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#502  Edited By dakan45
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@Thunderdrone: No one adapted the PCMR unironicly, its just tha you peasants care too much about the syste mand the master race didnt come from the nazis, the nazis adapted it when it came from Nietzsche who talked about a race of technologically advanced people, that will surpass everyone the maste race, who has the best techonlogy in gaming?

PC MASTER RACE!!!!

Stay butthurt!!

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#503  Edited By dakan45
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@AM-Gamer: lol most of those 1080p games run 1080p on a 5 year old pc. Besides thats just the resolution doesnt change the fact the graphics and the fps are vastly inferior.

Stay peasant.

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#504  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:

PC factually does have better definition and framerates (DigitalFoundry). Millions do play more on PC compared to consoles (SteamStats,DFC,JPR,NewZoo,Intel).

The OP's post didn't disprove either of those facts.

There isn't much to damage control, until you or the OP finds a link disproving those two items.

So why does it sell so well if those are facts? Maybe just maybe people prefer console?

1. Please stop saying "if those are facts". They are facts. You're just insulting everyone's intelligence now.

2. They still sell well because console's are cheaper and easier for common folk to get into. I won't lie, that much is true. Why do you think Honda Accord sells better than Ferrari?

Offense is given, not taken. Again you're claiming PC has so many users, yet why aren't they buying games? Fact is two year old consoles sold more than PC... Stop being a fanboy...

That is a bad comparison. Most people can invest in a pc. Most people can't invest in a ferrari. That's a big fallacy. Again, people like consoles for a reason. Stop being a fanboy. PC does have its advantages, but so does consoles

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#505  Edited By -God-
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@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:

PC factually does have better definition and framerates (DigitalFoundry). Millions do play more on PC compared to consoles (SteamStats,DFC,JPR,NewZoo,Intel).

The OP's post didn't disprove either of those facts.

There isn't much to damage control, until you or the OP finds a link disproving those two items.

So why does it sell so well if those are facts? Maybe just maybe people prefer console?

1. Please stop saying "if those are facts". They are facts. You're just insulting everyone's intelligence now.

2. They still sell well because console's are cheaper and easier for common folk to get into. I won't lie, that much is true. Why do you think Honda Accord sells better than Ferrari?

Offense is given, not taken. Again you're claiming PC has so many users, yet why aren't they buying games? Fact is two year old consoles sold more than PC... Stop being a fanboy...

That is a bad comparison. Most people can invest in a pc. Most people can't invest in a ferrari. That's a big fallacy. Again, people like consoles for a reason. Stop being a fanboy. PC does have its advantages, but so does consoles

1. Stop saying claims. It's a recorded fact. They are buying games, PC has more gaming revenue than all 6 consoles combined in 2014 and 2015. The thing is, it's accross a wide spectrum of games. PC has exponentially more games. So you won't see them all flood to one major release.

2. I agree, each console has it's advantage. I never said otherwise. I'm just pointing out that 30% of 3 system sales is just great for Witcher3, and CyberPunk will be on PC and vastly superior on PC, regardless of this attack thread. The OP is not changing the fact that PC gets the most AAA releases, and the best version of them. This thread is pointless.

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#506 lostrib
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jesus, 11 pages of arguing over good sales

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#507 The_Last_Ride
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@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

Offense is given, not taken. Again you're claiming PC has so many users, yet why aren't they buying games? Fact is two year old consoles sold more than PC... Stop being a fanboy...

That is a bad comparison. Most people can invest in a pc. Most people can't invest in a ferrari. That's a big fallacy. Again, people like consoles for a reason. Stop being a fanboy. PC does have its advantages, but so does consoles

1. Stop saying claims. It's a recorded fact. They are buying games, PC has more gaming revenue than all 6 consoles combined in 2014 and 2015. The thing is, it's accross a wide spectrum of games. PC has exponentially more games. So you won't see them all flood to one major release.

2. I agree, each console has it's advantage. I never said otherwise. I'm just pointing out that 30% of 3 system sales is just great for Witcher3, and CyberPunk will be on PC and vastly superior on PC, regardless of this attack thread.

Claims would mean they can be wrong, i am not. Again you said that before, can you prove this? This is a recorded fact. PC sold less. Yet why is it everytime a game comes to NPD sales on PC aren't #1?

And i didn't say it's not superior. You're however saying in thread after thread to me and others that consoles are basicly shit.

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#508  Edited By -God-
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@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

Offense is given, not taken. Again you're claiming PC has so many users, yet why aren't they buying games? Fact is two year old consoles sold more than PC... Stop being a fanboy...

That is a bad comparison. Most people can invest in a pc. Most people can't invest in a ferrari. That's a big fallacy. Again, people like consoles for a reason. Stop being a fanboy. PC does have its advantages, but so does consoles

1. Stop saying claims. It's a recorded fact. They are buying games, PC has more gaming revenue than all 6 consoles combined in 2014 and 2015. The thing is, it's accross a wide spectrum of games. PC has exponentially more games. So you won't see them all flood to one major release.

2. I agree, each console has it's advantage. I never said otherwise. I'm just pointing out that 30% of 3 system sales is just great for Witcher3, and CyberPunk will be on PC and vastly superior on PC, regardless of this attack thread.

Claims would mean they can be wrong, i am not. Again you said that before, can you prove this? This is a recorded fact. PC sold less. Yet why is it everytime a game comes to NPD sales on PC aren't #1?

And i didn't say it's not superior. You're however saying in thread after thread to me and others that consoles are basicly shit.

This is all I'm saying in this thread:

1. 30% of 3 systems a few months back (PC sales are over time) is fine. Most of CDP's revenue was from PC since they make more from each sale. This thread is a farce.

2. This thread is also a farce because the result of the OP's data will not be less PC games. Instead we are seeing more and more AAA/AA games come to PC, and better on PC... more than any one console. The industry obviously disagrees with the OP.

3. PC sales are lower in NPD because PC sales are 1. Over time. 2. Not mostly in NA 3. Too much spread over exponentially more games. PC has more total gaming revenue than all 6 consoles combined, it has so many games.

I'm mostly disproving the OP. Why aren't you on his case for his false attacks? Do you think that PC making most of Witcher3's revenue will result in a negative impact on PC Version of Cyberpunk?

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#509  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@-God- said:

This is all I'm saying in this thread:

1. 30% of 3 systems a few months back (PC sales are over time) is fine. Most of CDP's revenue was from PC since they make more from each sale. This thread is a farce.

2. This thread is also a farce because the result of the OP's data will not be less PC games. Instead we are seeing more and more AAA/AA games come to PC, and better on PC... more than any one console. The industry obviously disagrees with the OP.

3. PC sales are lower in NPD because PC sales are 1. Over time. 2. Not mostly in NA 3. Too much spread over exponentially more games. PC has more total gaming revenue than all 6 consoles combined, it has so many games.

I'm mostly disproving the OP. Why aren't you on his case for his false attacks? Do you think that PC making most of Witcher3's revenue will result in a negative impact on PC Version of Cyberpunk?

Now you're just moving the goal post mate. You have no idea if that is going to be the case... Way to refute the whole thread by calling it a farce

Nobody said that... Yet games like GTA, Cod, etc sell more on console.

Can you prove this?

No, it's not going to impact it negatively. I never said that

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#510  Edited By -God-
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@The_Last_Ride

I'm directly speaking on the thread topic, And I have no clue what you are babbling about.

30% of sales between 3 systems is great, and not a failure PC sales will only increase over time, making this great into "amazing" eventually. Also, since digital nets them more cash, they made most revenue on PC. PC will see continued support and best version of CDPR games, as well as 99% of other publishers and developers. PC brings in great profit, and is not ignored. I'm missing the point of this thread.

This is the Original Post, incase you missed it:

@Thunderdrone said:

As of June 2015

PC - 30%

Consoles - 70%

25% - Digital sales (50% of the total revenue)

75% - Retail

Source - CDPR rep

Another PC centric franchise failedby the glorious MASTER RACE

As I stated. This thread is a farce.

P.S. Yes, we know big blockbuster hyped casual games sell better on consoles. They don't have many games, and flock to the next big release.

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@The_Last_Ride said:

Yet why is it everytime a game comes to NPD sales on PC aren't #1?

Wait, NPD fully tracks digital sales now? Do you have a link to back that up?

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#512 The_Last_Ride
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@-God- said:

@The_Last_Ride

I'm directly speaking on the thread topic, And I have no clue what you are babbling about.

30% of sales between 3 systems is great, and not a failure PC sales will only increase over time, making this great into "amazing" eventually. Also, since digital nets them more cash, they made most revenue on PC. PC will see continued support and best version of CDPR games, as well as 99% of other publishers and developers. PC brings in great profit, and is not ignored. I'm missing the point of this thread.

This is the Original Post, incase you missed it:

@Thunderdrone said:

As of June 2015

PC - 30%

Consoles - 70%

25% - Digital sales (50% of the total revenue)

75% - Retail

Source - CDPR rep

Another PC centric franchise failedby the glorious MASTER RACE

As I stated. This thread is a farce.

P.S. Yes, we know big blockbuster hyped casual games sell better on consoles. They don't have many games, and flock to the next big release.

Again offense is taken, not given. If you don't like how he phrased it then that's on you. I have never said PC does not bring in profits, nor that it is ignored. He made a claim and backed it up by evidence. Is he wrong? If not, then he's right no matter how he put it. Two consoles with around 40 million users compared to what? Hundreds of millions having a pc? That is significant

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#513 ArunsunK
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@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:

1. 30% of 3 systems a few months back (PC sales are over time) is fine. Most of CDP's revenue was from PC since they make more from each sale. This thread is a farce.

Now you're just moving the goal post mate. You have no idea if that is going to be the case... Way to refute the whole thread by calling it a farce

I'm trying understand this. What does he have no idea is going to be the case? PC sales are over time?

"In the long term - selling digital becomes so dominant. This distribution we are now seeing in the case of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, which most of its sales boxed versions. In contrast, our older titles - The Witcher and The Witcher 2 sold mainly in digital channel. As for the distribution of sales - in the case of The Witcher 3 in the first period (until the end of June 2015) just over a quarter units were sold digitally. At the same time sales of digital generated nearly half the revenue from royalties."

It is straight from CDPR that digital sales becomes dominant over time from their previous PC games experience. It is not moving the goal post it is part of the topic.

Or were you talking about his 'most of the revenue was from PC'? I posted a breakdown of PC sales a few pages back for the first part of June having 22% of total sales digitally.

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#514  Edited By The_Last_Ride
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@arunsunk said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

Yet why is it everytime a game comes to NPD sales on PC aren't #1?

Wait, NPD fully tracks digital sales now? Do you have a link to back that up?

I didn't claim that, i said PC sales don't make a dent in the NPD sales. Also not all digital sales are public mmkay?

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#515  Edited By -God-
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@The_Last_Ride said:

Again offense is taken, not given. If you don't like how he phrased it then that's on you. I have never said PC does not bring in profits, nor that it is ignored. He made a claim and backed it up by evidence. Is he wrong? If not, then he's right no matter how he put it. Two consoles with around 40 million users compared to what? Hundreds of millions having a pc? That is significant

@Thunderdrone said:

Another PC centric franchise failed by the glorious MASTER

^He has to prove that 30% of sales out of 3 platforms several months ago is considered a failure in the industry. He did not back up the claim of "failed". Did CDPR say this was a failure? Did analysts call this a failure? Isn't that "failed" portion of his post an opinion? LINK!?

Until he offers such citation, you can go troll someone else my dear 2ndplaceJelly.

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#516 ArunsunK
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@The_Last_Ride:

That is exactly my point. PC is 80-90% digital so what is the point of talking about NPD sales and using it as a metric regarding PC if they don't include digital sales?

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#517 The_Last_Ride
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@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

Again offense is taken, not given. If you don't like how he phrased it then that's on you. I have never said PC does not bring in profits, nor that it is ignored. He made a claim and backed it up by evidence. Is he wrong? If not, then he's right no matter how he put it. Two consoles with around 40 million users compared to what? Hundreds of millions having a pc? That is significant

@Thunderdrone said:

Another PC centric franchise failed by the glorious MASTER

^He has to prove that 30% of sales out of 3 platforms several months ago is considered a failure in the industry. He did not back up the claim of "failed". Did CDPR say this was a failure? Did analysts call this a failure? Isn't that "failed" portion of his post an opinion? LINK!?

Until he offers such citation, you can go troll someone else my dear 2ndplaceJelly.

it's his own rhetoric. If you don't like it, then fine. I have not stated it's a failure. I can not speak on behalf on someone else. But you've gone time and time again to basicly say consoles are shit

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#518 -God-
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@The_Last_Ride said:
@-God- said:
@The_Last_Ride said:

Again offense is taken, not given. If you don't like how he phrased it then that's on you. I have never said PC does not bring in profits, nor that it is ignored. He made a claim and backed it up by evidence. Is he wrong? If not, then he's right no matter how he put it. Two consoles with around 40 million users compared to what? Hundreds of millions having a pc? That is significant

@Thunderdrone said:

Another PC centric franchise failed by the glorious MASTER

^He has to prove that 30% of sales out of 3 platforms several months ago is considered a failure in the industry. He did not back up the claim of "failed". Did CDPR say this was a failure? Did analysts call this a failure? Isn't that "failed" portion of his post an opinion? LINK!?

Until he offers such citation, you can go troll someone else my dear 2ndplaceJelly.

it's his own rhetoric. If you don't like it, then fine. I have not stated it's a failure. I can not speak on behalf on someone else. But you've gone time and time again to basicly say consoles are shit

Ofcourse it's his own rhetoric, he's full of shit and for 11 pages most people in this thread called him out on it.

Nowhere did CDPR or any analysist ever display this as some kind of failure, especially when PC gave the most revenue.

I'm glad we got that out of the way. Now stay on topic.

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#519 GarGx1
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@lostrib said:

jesus, 11 pages of arguing over good sales

It's far better than 11 threads