Would Infamous 2's 7.5 score been such a big deal here if...

only time will tell on that one. halo wars would have been the prime candidate for that but it's really only brought up when people complain about bias for the 360. forza 4 could be another but that seems to have vanished as well.

CaseyWegner

Gamespot overrates inFamous; no bias.

Gamespot underrates inFamous 2; BIAS, GS NO LONGER CREDIBLE.

lols to be had.

The only problem i have Casey is that Tom loved the Karma system in the first and now suddenly it's and terrible and a waste of time and detrimental to the game. He's putting his mood onto these reviews and irritability seemed rampant in the Infamous 2 review. He needs to have a talking to by his boss or get his act together if his mood is a variable in the review scores.JohnF111

he liked the way it was used in the first but found its use in the sequel disappointing. what's the problem?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

only time will tell on that one. halo wars would have been the prime candidate for that but it's really only brought up when people complain about bias for the 360. forza 4 could be another but that seems to have vanished as well.

Stevo_the_gamer

Gamespot overrates inFamous; no bias.

Gamespot underrates inFamous 2; BIAS, GS NO LONGER CREDIBLE.

lols to be had.

same thing happened with killzone 3 even though it is .1 higher here than on metacritic.

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

Would cows have hyped 2011 if they could do it over again?

incuensuocha

Yes and No

ddlcpc

could you elaborate on that?

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="EPaul"]

Well Infamous got a 9.0 and Infamous 2 is superior to Infamous in every way possibly so it was reasonable to hype it AAA

EPaul

In what way was it not superior to Infamous 1?

Give it a rest dude. Out of 89 reviews, only 16 scored Infamous 2 below an 80, and 40 (less than half) scored it below 85. Metacritic assigns weights to their reviews, so the score isn't a straight up average. That is why the score sits at 83 when 49 of 89 reviews scored 85 or above, 35 of those were 90 or above. It was a low end review any way you want to slice it.-ArchAngeL-777-

yes. there were 16 others. i already said this. people acted like gs was alone with its score. it wasn't.

I'm confused by the purpose of this thread as it seems like a big "what if" question that couldn't really be answered.

As you can see in this thread a few people find fault in the actual review so it makes them hesitant to trust the review score.

And as for your question of "Would Infamous 2's 7.5 score been such a big deal here if you guys didn't insist on hyping the thing to be AAA?" Well more than likey the answer is no. There would be no flop (at least not as big of a flop), and as such no big argument, no hate. Is that the purpose of the thread, to find that answer?

Many hyped it a AAAE, saw that the score and review did not reflect their opinion and so they aren't happy with it. I don't mean to be rude or saying I disagree with anything but I just fail to see what question you are trying to get answered in this thread when some people have shared with you what their reasoning is, but then it seems many of those posts go unanswered. :?

I'm confused by the purpose of this thread as it seems like a big "what if" question that couldn't really be answered.

As you can see in this thread a few people find fault in the actual review so it makes them hesitant to trust the review score.

And as for your question of "Would Infamous 2's 7.5 score been such a big deal here if you guys didn't insist on hyping the thing to be AAA?" Well more than likey the answer is no. There would be no flop (at least not as big of a flop), and as such no big argument, no hate. Is that the purpose of the thread, to find that answer?

Many hyped it a AAAE, saw that the score and review did not reflect their opinion and so they aren't happy with it. I don't mean to be rude or saying I disagree with anything but I just fail to see what question you are trying to get answered in this thread when some people have shared with you what their reasoning is, but then it seems many of those posts go unanswered. :?

Zassimick

there's no real purpose other than to pose a question. people were bashing the review before they even played the game. whether the hype was AAA or AA, it still scored what it scored. it would still be the same distance away from the average. it still would be among the others who scored it similarly.

it's difficult to respond to every single person in such a large thread soi apologize if anybody is feeling ignored.

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]

CaseyWegner

people were bashing the review before they even played the game. whether the hype was AAA or AA, it still scored what it scored. it would still be the same distance away from the average. it still would be among the others who scored it similarly.

it's difficult to respond to every single person in such a large thread soi apologize if anybody is feeling ignored.

That's understandable. Maybe it is the fact that after some gamers played inFamous 2 they found they very much disagreed with the review and they now had their opinions to back up their argument, hence the prolonged debate on its score.

What I see it coming down to is the first thing fans of the game see is the score, they then proceed to find what they disagree with in the review and use that as an argument to say that McShea's review is a poor review. Ironic really, since that is what some people say McShea does with his games: finds one flaw then nitpicks the hell out of it. :lol:

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Give it a rest dude. Out of 89 reviews, only 16 scored Infamous 2 below an 80, and 40 (less than half) scored it below 85. Metacritic assigns weights to their reviews, so the score isn't a straight up average. That is why the score sits at 83 when 49 of 89 reviews scored 85 or above, 35 of those were 90 or above. It was a low end review any way you want to slice it.CaseyWegner

yes. there were 16 others. i already said this. people acted like gs was alone with its score. it wasn't.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]Give it a rest dude. Out of 89 reviews, only 16 scored Infamous 2 below an 80, and 40 (less than half) scored it below 85. Metacritic assigns weights to their reviews, so the score isn't a straight up average. That is why the score sits at 83 when 49 of 89 reviews scored 85 or above, 35 of those were 90 or above. It was a low end review any way you want to slice it.-ArchAngeL-777-

yes. there were 16 others. i already said this. people acted like gs was alone with its score. it wasn't.

i never said it wasn't on the lower end. there's no denying that it is. however, looking at what it actually scored and at what the scoring system used is, it's really not that outrageous a score. seeing what the reaction to the score was, it does matter that he wasn't alone since people acted like he was.

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

yes. there were 16 others. i already said this. people acted like gs was alone with its score. it wasn't.

CaseyWegner

i never said it wasn't on the lower end. there's no denying that it is. however, looking at what it actually scored and at what the scoring system used is, it's really not that outrageous a score. seeing what the reaction to the score was, it does matter that he wasn't alone since people acted like he was.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Zassimick"]

Zassimick

people were bashing the review before they even played the game. whether the hype was AAA or AA, it still scored what it scored. it would still be the same distance away from the average. it still would be among the others who scored it similarly.

it's difficult to respond to every single person in such a large thread soi apologize if anybody is feeling ignored.

That's understandable. Maybe it is the fact that after some gamers played inFamous 2 they found they very much disagreed with the review and they now had their opinions to back up their argument, hence the prolonged debate on its score.

What I see it coming down to is the first thing fans of the game see is the score, they then proceed to find what they disagree with in the review and use that as an argument to say that McShea's review is a poor review. Ironic really, since that is what some people say McShea does with his games: finds one flaw then nitpicks the hell out of it. :lol:

keyword: opinion

people bashed the review before they played it which shows a bit of prejudice. that their preformed opinions were validated (for themselves) doesn't make it okay to fly off the handle like they did.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]The only problem i have Casey is that Tom loved the Karma system in the first and now suddenly it's and terrible and a waste of time and detrimental to the game. He's putting his mood onto these reviews and irritability seemed rampant in the Infamous 2 review. He needs to have a talking to by his boss or get his act together if his mood is a variable in the review scores.CaseyWegner

he liked the way it was used in the first but found its use in the sequel disappointing. what's the problem?

The example he gave didint make sense thats why. He said 1 had less b&w moments for karma and 2 had only b&w moments. Thats a straight up lie. Both games had full B&W moments. It was clear as day what was good and wasint good. Take food for ourselves or share the food with the starving citizens hmmmm its so hard to see whats wrong and wats good here....

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]The only problem i have Casey is that Tom loved the Karma system in the first and now suddenly it's and terrible and a waste of time and detrimental to the game. He's putting his mood onto these reviews and irritability seemed rampant in the Infamous 2 review. He needs to have a talking to by his boss or get his act together if his mood is a variable in the review scores.finalfantasy94

he liked the way it was used in the first but found its use in the sequel disappointing. what's the problem?

The example he gave didint make sense thats why. He said 1 had less b&w moments for karma and 2 had only b&w moments. Thats a straight up lie. Both games had full B&W moments. It was clear as day what was good and wasint good. Take food for ourselves or share the food with the starving citizens hmmmm its so hard to see whats wrong and wats good here....

he didn't say all decisions from the first game were grey.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"] I dont think people expected it to be alone at all. There are always a few reviews here and there that sink low. It's still a low end score...period...plus a lot of people who played Infamous did not agree with his comments when comparing the games. It matters not that a whopping 15 of 88 others joined it at the bottom of the pile.Chris_Williams

i never said it wasn't on the lower end. there's no denying that it is. however, looking at what it actually scored and at what the scoring system used is, it's really not that outrageous a score. seeing what the reaction to the score was, it does matter that he wasn't alone since people acted like he was.

what am i nitpicking at? i have passed no judgement on the game whatsoever. good or bad.

Infamous 2 would've easily scored a 9 if it were on the 360. The PS3 is held to a much higher standard than the 360 because it's a far more superior system than 360 which is garbage.

Infamous 2 would've easily scored a 9 if it were on the 360. The PS3 is held to a much higher standard than the 360 because it's a far more superior system than 360 which is garbage.

Tangmashi

that's probably it.

well sure casey you are going to be downplaying this after all you are working neck deep with the international conspiracy against the ps3.

*grabs lapels* WHO YOU WORKIN FOR! WHO?!?! SPILL IT! DON'T MAKE US START A PETITION!

well sure casey you are going to be downplaying this after all you are working neck deep with the international conspiracy against the ps3.

*grabs lapels* WHO YOU WORKIN FOR! WHO?!?! SPILL IT! DON'T MAKE US START A PETITION!

Riverwolf007

it pays surprisingly well.

The AAA hype was always too high, people see a big name and hype a game AAA rather than see how the game is progressing and see whether it actually looks like it's going to be an AAA title.fabz_95

[QUOTE="fabz_95"]The AAA hype was always too high, people see a big name and hype a game AAA rather than see how the game is progressing and see whether it actually looks like it's going to be an AAA title.Chrome-

ah. but if you look at metacritic you will see that infamous 2's score is lower than the original game's.