Wow GT5 to not have Porsche vehicles.. Polyphony is turning into a joke now.

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#151 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"] DC? Go ahead and look through my post history. I have expressed several times how i dont care about GT or racing sims at all for that matter. On the subject of Porsches thats how i've always felt about them. They are cars people use to show off with when they cant afford something cool. Thats how i feel about corvettes too.

brennan7777

Oh hey man, I'm just messin around and my post was posted more b/c I just like that lttle jab at Por-sha owners is all. :P Me tho, I likes my Corvette tho wish it was a 2010 ZR1 !! :D

Actually those are pretty nice corvettes. I'm not saying the cars are bad or anything, and if people genuinely like them then by all means get the car. I just hate when people show off about it. Like i went to the gas station and parked next to a porsche and the owner came around and talked to me for like 10 minutes about it, and how nice it was. I mean if it was a ferrari i would envy the guy, but its just a porsche...

It,s all good my friend and yeah, An Enzo Ferrari is in my future !!

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#152 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Are you kidding me? A 911 GT2 isint a car to show off with. The GT3 was made to be a racing car. Porsches IMO are ugly. The whole 911 class is more about performance.. And lets not even forget about the Carrera GT..When I see a boxster or another type of porsche, then yes, you are somewhat correct. But when you talk about the 911 class (Especially the GT class), they are performance cars. And this is all coming from a guy who doesnt like porsches very much...

Oh, and the Corvette Zr1 is one of the best cars you can buy now. That is a performance car.

taj7575

No i actually do like the Zr1, but not all corvettes are as nice as them.

Thats true, but honestly, I don't even remember the last time I saw a corvette. I guess nobody buys them anymore.

Yeah they arent as popular thats for sure. Anyway its dinner time so i'm gonna go hop into my 98 suburban ( :P )and go get some. Have a goodnight.

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#153 edwise18
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Not a deal breaker…. but to not have one of the most iconic brands in automotive history not in the game is kinda weak

masiisam

I agree. It's not a deal breaker but come on it's porsche. It's like not having lambos or ferraris.

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#154 jackandblood
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So, is the reason GT5 doesn't have Porsche because EA won't let them have it, or because they don't want to pay to use it?

Also, I wish somebody would put me in their sig, I'm so lonely.:cry:

gamecubepad

Not sure what you mean by put you in my sig, but I'm tracking you if that helps.

In the past the issue of showing damage and performance degradation has been an issue for car manufacturers in licensing to video games.

As I understand it GT5 is going to have a brutally realistic damage modelling.

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#155 Espada12
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Does GT have aston martin's? That's all I care about. Also unless I missed it.. why was this thread allowed to go 8 pages without a link?

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#156 EliteKitteh
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If Porsche isn't there it's obviously because they couldn't get the license which isn't Polyphony's fault. The stupidity of system wars never ceases to amaze me.

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#157 jackandblood
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Does GT have aston martin's? That's all I care about. Also unless I missed it.. why was this thread allowed to go 8 pages without a link?

Espada12

LOL. I havent read every post but that would be effing funny if TC just made this **** up and we all bit.

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#158 PS2_ROCKS
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RUF is a fine substitute. All of Porsche's cars are the same anyways. Got one got em all.
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#159 dragonfly110
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meh, will still be an amazing game...even though Porche is one of my favorites in sim racers D: Ill get over it with the htousands of other cars to choose from :P

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#160 da-KGB-
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honestly, you cant have a racing game without porsche. this is unforgivable if true.
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#161 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

Kennysolidsnake

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

This is Porsche we are talking about, not some no name like Puegot or Citroen. Any serious racing sim must have porsche

name 10 extremely good porsches!
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#162 Arctic_Grillz
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honestly, you cant have a racing game without porsche. this is unforgivable if true.da-KGB-
says who? GT series just did it.
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#163 ferrarimanf355
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RUF is a fine substitute. All of Porsche's cars are the same anyways. Got one got em all.PS2_ROCKS

lolwhut

Someone needs to look at the Carrera GT...

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#164 taj7575
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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]RUF is a fine substitute. All of Porsche's cars are the same anyways. Got one got em all.ferrarimanf355

lolwhut

Someone needs to look at the Carrera GT...

Yes, and I mentioned that many times in this thread. The thing is, that is the only car I'm going to miss. It's not that big of a deal in the end.

Besides if you have followed this game for a while, you would've already known porsche was not going to be in the game. RUF is a fine substitute anyways, since it's basically a porsche made better.

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#165 ferrarimanf355
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[QUOTE="ferrarimanf355"]

lawl at the damage control with the lie about EA owning the license. If they do, then why does Porsches appear in Forza 3? :|

Wassmansdorff

Oh my...God. How far can ignorance go? I give you two hints: 1- Sub-licenses; 2- Forza is not a big threat for EA. Go Google it.

You're just pulling stuff out of thin air. Prove it. Go on, I'll wait. You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

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#166 Xire_XII
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9 pages of outrage and or argument over whether or not the game has Porsches or not. It'd be nice if we had a link to such claims. After the 5th page, I skimmed and still didn't see one.

I don't even really care about the game but they already have so many cars in the game already. I doubt they don't have a Porsche and if they don't, I'm sure the license will have it's light on DLC.

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#167 thelastguy
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

jonesy1911

This is Porsche we are talking about, not some no name like Puegot or Citroen. Any serious racing sim must have porsche

name 10 extremely good porsches!

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911 GT3 RS (997)

Carerra GT

911 GT1

911 2.7 RS

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GT becomes a bigger joke every day. It was first announced 6 years ago. It has barely improved visually and is still having disappointments more and more as the years go on. by the time it comes out it won't even matter anymore... heck, it hardly does now.. F3 kind of destroyed the GT franchise.

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#169 Adrian_Cloud
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GT becomes a bigger joke every day. It was first announced 6 years ago. It has barely improved visually and is still having disappointments more and more as the years go on. by the time it comes out it won't even matter anymore... heck, it hardly does now.. F3 kind of destroyed the GT franchise.

3picuri3
Six years ago would put it in 2004, that is before GT4 was even released. I realize your just flame baiting, but at least do it with something better than that.
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#170 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Wassmansdorff"]

[QUOTE="ferrarimanf355"]

lawl at the damage control with the lie about EA owning the license. If they do, then why does Porsches appear in Forza 3? :|

ferrarimanf355

Oh my...God. How far can ignorance go? I give you two hints: 1- Sub-licenses; 2- Forza is not a big threat for EA. Go Google it.

You're just pulling stuff out of thin air. Prove it. Go on, I'll wait. You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

The fact is Polyphony digital is having licensing issues with Porsche, plain and simple this game as 16 cars on track and over 1000 cars, they are still modeling new cars this very minute for you to say it cause there lazy is incredibly ignorant. They just finished the 458 italia a couple months ago.
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#171 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

GT becomes a bigger joke every day. It was first announced 6 years ago. It has barely improved visually and is still having disappointments more and more as the years go on. by the time it comes out it won't even matter anymore... heck, it hardly does now.. F3 kind of destroyed the GT franchise.

Adrian_Cloud

Six years ago would put it in 2004, that is before GT4 was even released. I realize your just flame baiting, but at least do it with something better than that.

technically GTFB was announced in 2004 and is a part of GT5 :) who cares. my points stand true regardless.. the series is a joke now because they've taken so long and nothing seems better because of it. we've all sampled the japanese demo and played the disappointing prologue. it should be immensely better for a game that took 2 development cycles of forza to make. it is nothing but an embarassment now imho. losing porsche just shows that some manufacturers realize how far the franchise has fallen.

there are no excuses other than laziness and incompetence to explain why this game isn't released yet any why porsche bailed.

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#172 taj7575
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

GT becomes a bigger joke every day. It was first announced 6 years ago. It has barely improved visually and is still having disappointments more and more as the years go on. by the time it comes out it won't even matter anymore... heck, it hardly does now.. F3 kind of destroyed the GT franchise.

3picuri3

Six years ago would put it in 2004, that is before GT4 was even released. I realize your just flame baiting, but at least do it with something better than that.

technically GTFB was announced in 2004 and is a part of GT5 :) who cares. my points stand true regardless.. the series is a joke now because they've taken so long and nothing seems better because of it. we've all sampled the japanese demo and played the disappointing prologue. it should be immensely better for a game that took 2 development cycles of forza to make. it is nothing but an embarassment now imho. losing porsche just shows that some manufacturers realize how far the franchise has fallen.

I doubt you have played either of those...Oh and they never "lost" Porsche. They never had in anyways, and most people who pay attention to GT knew that porsche was probably not going to be in this one either..

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Six years ago would put it in 2004, that is before GT4 was even released. I realize your just flame baiting, but at least do it with something better than that. Adrian_Cloud

technically GTFB was announced in 2004 and is a part of GT5 :) who cares. my points stand true regardless.. the series is a joke now because they've taken so long and nothing seems better because of it. we've all sampled the japanese demo and played the disappointing prologue. it should be immensely better for a game that took 2 development cycles of forza to make. it is nothing but an embarassment now imho. losing porsche just shows that some manufacturers realize how far the franchise has fallen.

there are no excuses other than laziness and incompetence to explain why this game isn't released yet any why porsche bailed.

Dude, they could have announced GT6, but obviously GT4 is going to take precedence over GT5. So now lets be realistic here, GT4 released in 2006 and GT5 is being released in 2010. I don't don't understand how prologue was disappointed, i hope you weren't expecting a full game. The graphics and physics in prologue are great. You realize that GT4 didn't have Lambos, Mclaren F1s, Ferraris,etc. If they managed to include those major supercars that proves that obviously made effort to update their large roster of manufacturers which trumps Forzas. Looks like your wrong on both accounts, GT5: P had 16 cars on track while neither Forza 2, or Forza 3 can rack up this amount. GT5 has WRC,Nascar,IRL,SuperGT licensees. I don't even want to continue this conversation.

Gran Turismo 4 was released in 2004...

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#175 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Six years ago would put it in 2004, that is before GT4 was even released. I realize your just flame baiting, but at least do it with something better than that. Adrian_Cloud

technically GTFB was announced in 2004 and is a part of GT5 :) who cares. my points stand true regardless.. the series is a joke now because they've taken so long and nothing seems better because of it. we've all sampled the japanese demo and played the disappointing prologue. it should be immensely better for a game that took 2 development cycles of forza to make. it is nothing but an embarassment now imho. losing porsche just shows that some manufacturers realize how far the franchise has fallen.

there are no excuses other than laziness and incompetence to explain why this game isn't released yet any why porsche bailed.

Dude, they could have announced GT6, but obviously GT4 is going to take precedence over GT5. So now lets be realistic here, GT4 released in 2006 and GT5 is being released in 2010. I don't don't understand how prologue was disappointed, i hope you weren't expecting a full game. The graphics and physics in prologue are great. You realize that GT4 didn't have Lambos, Mclaren F1s, Ferraris,etc. If they managed to include those major supercars that proves that obviously made effort to update their large roster of manufacturers which trumps Forzas. Looks like your wrong on both accounts, GT5: P had 16 cars on track while neither Forza 2, or Forza 3 can rack up this amount. GT5 has WRC,Nascar,IRL,SuperGT licensees. I don't even want to continue this conversation.

physics and tracks on prologue were trash. why does it matter how many cars you can stuff on a track with floaty physics and no damage if the backgrounds are all 2D? was terrible imho. and GTFB was announced in 2004 and is only now being implemented for GT5, so technically a part of GT5 was announced in 2004 :)

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#176 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] technically GTFB was announced in 2004 and is a part of GT5 :) who cares. my points stand true regardless.. the series is a joke now because they've taken so long and nothing seems better because of it. we've all sampled the japanese demo and played the disappointing prologue. it should be immensely better for a game that took 2 development cycles of forza to make. it is nothing but an embarassment now imho. losing porsche just shows that some manufacturers realize how far the franchise has fallen.

there are no excuses other than laziness and incompetence to explain why this game isn't released yet any why porsche bailed.

Modern_Unit

Dude, they could have announced GT6, but obviously GT4 is going to take precedence over GT5. So now lets be realistic here, GT4 released in 2006 and GT5 is being released in 2010. I don't don't understand how prologue was disappointed, i hope you weren't expecting a full game. The graphics and physics in prologue are great. You realize that GT4 didn't have Lambos, Mclaren F1s, Ferraris,etc. If they managed to include those major supercars that proves that obviously made effort to update their large roster of manufacturers which trumps Forzas. Looks like your wrong on both accounts, GT5: P had 16 cars on track while neither Forza 2, or Forza 3 can rack up this amount. GT5 has WRC,Nascar,IRL,SuperGT licensees. I don't even want to continue this conversation.

Gran Turismo 4 was released in 2004...

edit 2005.
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#177 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"] Dude, they could have announced GT6, but obviously GT4 is going to take precedence over GT5. So now lets be realistic here, GT4 released in 2006 and GT5 is being released in 2010. I don't don't understand how prologue was disappointed, i hope you weren't expecting a full game. The graphics and physics in prologue are great. You realize that GT4 didn't have Lambos, Mclaren F1s, Ferraris,etc. If they managed to include those major supercars that proves that obviously made effort to update their large roster of manufacturers which trumps Forzas. Looks like your wrong on both accounts, GT5: P had 16 cars on track while neither Forza 2, or Forza 3 can rack up this amount. GT5 has WRC,Nascar,IRL,SuperGT licensees. I don't even want to continue this conversation.Adrian_Cloud

Gran Turismo 4 was released in 2004...

edit 2005.

does it matter when 4 came out? isn't it regarded as the worst GT to date anyways?
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#178 Funconsole
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this game doesn't need Porsche

Rza_rectah
You mean Porsche doesn't need this game ;) Guess no Carrera GT for the GT faithful
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does it matter when 4 came out? isn't it regarded as the worst GT to date anyways?3picuri3

I have never heard that before.

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#180 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Gran Turismo 4 was released in 2004...

3picuri3

edit 2005.

does it matter when 4 came out? isn't it regarded as the worst GT to date anyways?

If your going by Gamespots standards Gran Turismo 1 was the lowest scoring GT game on a console. If your going by the fans standards then no, Gran Turismo 4 was a great game. If your going by Gamerankings.com Gran turismo 4 has an 89% average, which is not bad for being the "worst" in the series :|

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#181 Chutebox
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GT becomes a bigger joke every day. It was first announced 6 years ago. It has barely improved visually and is still having disappointments more and more as the years go on. by the time it comes out it won't even matter anymore... heck, it hardly does now.. F3 kind of destroyed the GT franchise.

3picuri3

This is very evident with the hundreds of threads about GT5 with hundreds of pages per thread...

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#182 Boomshaffted
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Are you bloody serious? A supposedly serious racing simulator and it's missing arguably the most decorated racing pedigree in international racing history, and in that, some of the most legendary cars to ever grace a race track? Sorry, but the people making this out to be nothing... That's like a Street Fighter game without Ryu.
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#183 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Not a deal breaker…. but to not have one of the most iconic brands in automotive history not in the game is kinda weak

edwise18

I agree. It's not a deal breaker but come on it's porsche. It's like not having lambos or ferraris.

I understand…….But liking them is subjective.. As to them being one of the most iconic brands in automotive history is a fact…;)

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#184 KukicAdo
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The problem isn't designing the cars, the problem comes with licensing. EA has had the Porche lincese for a very long time, and is refusing to grant it to PD for a fair price, thus Porche automobiles won't be featured in the game.
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#185 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Does GT have aston martin's? That's all I care about. Also unless I missed it.. why was this thread allowed to go 8 pages without a link?

jackandblood

LOL. I havent read every post but that would be effing funny if TC just made this **** up and we all bit.

It would be, I still haven't seen one.

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#186 jakarai
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Wow this has got to be a joke. The game has over 1k cars and your complaining about 1 manufacturer? :roll:
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#187 HAZE-Unit
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people who don't understand the GT series will always miss out, it's not about the most iconic car brands only.

Porsche is a big part of the industry, did it dissapoint me that it will not be featured on GT5 over all these years? yes

Is it a deal breaker? hell to the freaking no.

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#188 CDWJUSTIN
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the only proble i see is there is no batmobile

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#189 masiisam
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The problem isn't designing the cars, the problem comes with licensing. EA has had the Porche lincese for a very long time, and is refusing to grant it to PD for a fair price, thus Porche automobiles won't be featured in the game. KukicAdo

Do you have a link for that?

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#190 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]The problem isn't designing the cars, the problem comes with licensing. EA has had the Porche lincese for a very long time, and is refusing to grant it to PD for a fair price, thus Porche automobiles won't be featured in the game. masiisam

Do you have a link for that?

Well here's one link. http://www.porsche.com/china/en/interactive/needforspeedprostreet/

I believe EA have held the license since NFS: Porsche Unleashed. Typically all the NFS games carry this legal notice: "Porsche, the Porsche crest, 911 and Carrera are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Licensed under certain patents."

Perhaps EA is refusing to sublicense, or perhaps the value proposition may not be deemed worthwhile to PD.

But the idea that PD are deliberately excluding Porsche cars because they're incapable of coding them, or are unwilling to, or are lazy... is frankly just dumb.

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#191 wooooode
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How many accounts do you have, first it was the batmobile now this.
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#192 Jesus_on_fire
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Eh i've never liked Porsche. To me Porsches have always been the car that a man gets when he makes good money, but not good enough money to buy something cool. Alot like corvettes.

Anyway why is everyone complaining about porsche when you get to drive the superior ferrari?

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Only short people drive porsches. But hey, Ferraris are for men in a mid-life crisis

JK :P

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#193 devilsoultaker2
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WTF PD WHAT THE **** i'm DONE
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#194 beekayjay
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YEAH Let's boycott GT!!!! Cuz it worked so well for MW2!!!! YEAH!!! Stop it with the melodramatics, people.
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#195 killerfist
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Kinda strange if it doesn't feature Porsches. If this is true that is (Is it confirmed?) But as others have pointed out, it's not really a gamebraker.
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#196 Disturbed123
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It is known as the RUFF

fROM gt4, GT5 WILL ALSO HAVE THEMTHREAD


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#197 hotfiree
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Porsche.....? Haha i have NEVER used those in any racing game and tbh if you gave me a free one in real life id just sell it. There highly overrated and i really dont like them. Theres actually a tonne of cars i never use, entire brands even Porshe, alfa romeo,locus, suzuki, probably alot more im forgetting.
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#198 jmdude
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It's not a big of a deal

As long as the Ferraris and Lamborghinis are there it's cool.

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#199 beekayjay
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Porsche.....? Haha i have NEVER used those in any racing game and tbh if you gave me a free one in real life id just sell it. There highly overrated and i really dont like them. Theres actually a tonne of cars i never use, entire brands even Porshe, alfa romeo,locus, suzuki, probably alot more im forgetting.hotfiree
Agreed, Porsche is all branding anyways, its not necessarily the best car maker out there, people just make a big deal because of the legacy and reputation. And as Disturbed123 points out, Ruf cars will probably make it into the game, and I'd take those over a regular Porsche anyday (in the game or in real life).
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#200 hotfiree
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Yeah, im much more interesting in cars such as muscle cars, and FORD ( my car will be in the game so its exciting haha )