Wow GT5 to not have Porsche vehicles.. Polyphony is turning into a joke now.

I don't particularly care personally. The only Porsche I'd be interested in is the Speedster. And maybe this. But that never happens, license or no license.

Oh no, they're making a SUV called the...Roxster. :(

Racing simulators and their strive to be realistic. Realism is problematic, no?

Maybe in place of a Porsche they include the exclusive..... Lambergotti Fastarosa.. it is one sweet ride !! :P

SecretPolice

Coool. This game slipped past my radar.

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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

Do you have a link for that?

ferrarimanf355

I believe EA have held the license since NFS: Porsche Unleashed. Typically all the NFS games carry this legal notice: "Porsche, the Porsche crest, 911 and Carrera are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Licensed under certain patents."

Perhaps EA is refusing to sublicense, or perhaps the value proposition may not be deemed worthwhile to PD.

But the idea that PD are deliberately excluding Porsche cars because they're incapable of coding them, or are unwilling to, or are lazy... is frankly just dumb.

That doesn't prove anything. You're just making stuff up. Nowhere does that say that EA has exclusive dibs, and that doesn't explain why Forza 3 has Porsche. :|

But yes, I'm making stuff up. It has nothing to do with licensing issues. Polyphony Digital are clearly just too inept and lazy to code any Porsche cars, despite that they have RUF cars. Coding the Porsche crest and logo is just too damn mindboggling. Only the devs for NFS and Forza have the mental capacity and talent to code them.

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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]Well here's one link. http://www.porsche.com/china/en/interactive/needforspeedprostreet/

I believe EA have held the license since NFS: Porsche Unleashed. Typically all the NFS games carry this legal notice: "Porsche, the Porsche crest, 911 and Carrera are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Licensed under certain patents."

Perhaps EA is refusing to sublicense, or perhaps the value proposition may not be deemed worthwhile to PD.

But the idea that PD are deliberately excluding Porsche cars because they're incapable of coding them, or are unwilling to, or are lazy... is frankly just dumb.

shinrabanshou

That doesn't prove anything. You're just making stuff up. Nowhere does that say that EA has exclusive dibs, and that doesn't explain why Forza 3 has Porsche. :|

Not to beat a dead horse but the link says nothing about holding the license….Audi are "partners" with T10 but you find Audi's in all the current gen racing games.

No one has said Poly cant code the car ..but plenty have said it's not a deal breaker but disappointing. That's understandable. Some posters don't like Porsches and that's fine it still does not change the fact they are one of the most iconic brands in motor sport history ..They should be in the game..

Boo hoo, GT never had Porsche, they had RUF. DO you know why GT doesnt have Porsche? Its because Porsche are most likely charging insane amount of money for royalites!

clyde46

Your point? If Turn 10 can afford the Porsche licensing fees, PD sure as hell can.

Since Gran Turismo 2 RUF has been a manufacturer, and has always had an impressive line up of cars. I can't see a Polyphony having both RUF and Porsche in one game since RUF uses a lot of Porsche bodies and chassis, and replacing RUF with Porsche would be an even bigger joke in my opinion since they're such an important manufacturer in Gran Turismo.

The game needs Porsche cars to be great? :? Doolz2024

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]The game needs Porsche cars to be great? :? Boomshaffted

That madden comparison makes no sence...All 32 teams are under the NFL. All car companies are not under one league or something..

An for what seems to be the billionth time, GT has had RUF for a while now. RUF sells modified porsches.

Forza 3 doesn't have NASCAR. Therefore it is a joke.

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[QUOTE="ferrarimanf355"]Someone asked for a link to show that EA hold the Porsche AG license, so I provided a link.

masiisam

Not to beat a dead horse but the link says nothing about holding the license….Audi are "partners" with T10 but you find Audi's in all the current gen racing games.

No one has said Poly cant code the car ..but plenty have said it's not a deal breaker but disappointing. That's understandable. Some posters don't like Porsches and that's fine it still does not change the fact they are one of the most iconic brands in motor sport history ..They should be in the game..

http://www.ea.com/2/legal-notices or for some older licensing notices http://de.ea.com/global/legal/legalnotice.jsp

Better? That and I believe Yamauchi has said in an interview that the omission of Porsche is due to "licensing issues."

People have been acting as if this is something beyond simple licensing conflict.

And there've been dumb comments like this in the thread.

You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

ferrarimanf355

Yes, having Porsche in the game would be nice, but as you stated to most it's not a dealbreaker.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Not to beat a dead horse but the link says nothing about holding the license….Audi are "partners" with T10 but you find Audi's in all the current gen racing games.

No one has said Poly cant code the car ..but plenty have said it's not a deal breaker but disappointing. That's understandable. Some posters don't like Porsches and that's fine it still does not change the fact they are one of the most iconic brands in motor sport history ..They should be in the game..

shinrabanshou

http://www.ea.com/2/legal-notices or for some older licensing notices http://de.ea.com/global/legal/legalnotice.jsp

Better? That and I believe Yamauchi has said in an interview that the omission of Porsche is due to "licensing issues."

People have been acting as if this is something beyond simple licensing conflict.

And there've been dumb comments like this in the thread.

You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

ferrarimanf355

Yes, having Porsche in the game would be nice, but as you stated to most it's not a dealbreaker.

It's not that big of a deal…..but honestly no… it's not better…Legal notices are required by the holder to keep any registered trademark from being infringed on and if any brand/ trademark that is used by the holder…. proper acknowledgement must be made to the holder of those brands.

Simply put..I have not found one document that states EA is the exclusive holder of the Porsche license..

I'm not calling you out specifically….. but more so the validity of the information. I have heard that quite a bit and I haven't found anything to back that claim up.

Not a big deal...

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]masiisam

http://www.ea.com/2/legal-notices or for some older licensing notices http://de.ea.com/global/legal/legalnotice.jsp

Better? That and I believe Yamauchi has said in an interview that the omission of Porsche is due to "licensing issues."

People have been acting as if this is something beyond simple licensing conflict.

And there've been dumb comments like this in the thread.

You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

ferrarimanf355

Yes, having Porsche in the game would be nice, but as you stated to most it's not a dealbreaker.

It's not that big of a deal…..but honestly no… it's not better…Legal notices are required by the holder to keep any registered trademark from being infringed on and if any brand/ trademark that is used by the holder…. proper acknowledgement must be made to the holder of those brands.

Simply put..I have not found one document that states EA is the exclusive holder of the Porsche license..

I'm not calling you out specifically….. but more so the validity of the information. I have heard that quite a bit and I haven't found anything to back that claim up.

Not a big deal...

At then end of the day they still have RUF, anybody who is planning on "boycotting the game" because it lacks the Porsche crest, probably wasn't ever planning on getting it anyway...

Forza 3 doesn't have NASCAR. Therefore it is a joke.

789shadow

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]masiisam

http://www.ea.com/2/legal-notices or for some older licensing notices http://de.ea.com/global/legal/legalnotice.jsp

Better? That and I believe Yamauchi has said in an interview that the omission of Porsche is due to "licensing issues."

People have been acting as if this is something beyond simple licensing conflict.

And there've been dumb comments like this in the thread.

You're just making stuff up so you can feel better about Polyphony being lazy.

ferrarimanf355

Yes, having Porsche in the game would be nice, but as you stated to most it's not a dealbreaker.

It's not that big of a deal…..but honestly no… it's not better…Legal notices are required by the holder to keep any registered trademark from being infringed on and if any brand/ trademark that is used by the holder…. proper acknowledgement must be made to the holder of those brands.

Simply put..I have not found one document that states EA is the exclusive holder of the Porsche license..

I'm not calling you out specifically….. but more so the validity of the information. I have heard that quite a bit and I haven't found anything to back that claim up.

Not a big deal...

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Forza 3 doesn't have NASCAR. Therefore it is a joke.

Saturos3091

This game won't even sell 500k units. Quote me on this. It's been getting a lot of bad publicity, and I don't think it will ever recover. The consumers' feeling about this game won't change, unless they cancel it and make it a totally different game, something like take what they worked on GT5(if they even did) and develop a whole new game (GT6).

This game won't even sell 500k units. Quote me on this. It's been getting a lot of bad publicity, and I don't think it will ever recover. The consumers' feeling about this game won't change, unless they cancel it and make it a totally different game, something like take what they worked on GT5(if they even did) and develop a whole new game (GT6).

GiveMeSomething

[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

This game won't even sell 500k units. Quote me on this. It's been getting a lot of bad publicity, and I don't think it will ever recover. The consumers' feeling about this game won't change, unless they cancel it and make it a totally different game, something like take what they worked on GT5(if they even did) and develop a whole new game (GT6).

jakarai

This game is a scam, seriously. SIX YEARS and this is all they can do? I'd pitty myself were I a GT5's developer.

I'm sorry but there's absolutely no excuse for this, they keep dropping content and delaying the game. I, for one, won't be buying crap like this.

And I'm extremely positive that they already lost A LOT of potential buyers as well. So yeah, I won't be alone on this.

This game is a scam, seriously. SIX YEARS and this is all they can do? I'd pitty myself were I a GT5's developer.

I'm sorry but there's absolutely no excuse for this, they keep dropping content and delaying the game. I, for one, won't be buying crap like this.

And I'm extremely positive that they already lost A LOT of potential buyers as well. So yeah, I won't be alone on this.

GiveMeSomething

Over 1 car manufactuar? These people hit a new low :| Clearly you (or any lemming here) have played a GT game before, because you would all know about RUFF.

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I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

Kennysolidsnake

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

Lol at "Peugeot" and "Citroen" as no names...Did you know more Peugeot and Citroen get sold worldwide than any American car maker?

[QUOTE="jakarai"][QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

This game won't even sell 500k units. Quote me on this. It's been getting a lot of bad publicity, and I don't think it will ever recover. The consumers' feeling about this game won't change, unless they cancel it and make it a totally different game, something like take what they worked on GT5(if they even did) and develop a whole new game (GT6).

rybe1025

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="jakarai"] The new DEMO has had 1 million downloads. This game will easily sell 10 million copies and more then likely become the best selling PS3 title.jakarai

This game won't even sell 500k units. Quote me on this. It's been getting a lot of bad publicity, and I don't think it will ever recover. The consumers' feeling about this game won't change, unless they cancel it and make it a totally different game, something like take what they worked on GT5(if they even did) and develop a whole new game (GT6).

GiveMeSomething

[QUOTE="jakarai"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]I am not agreeing with the poster saying it will only sell 500k but how do you work out only 1 million wanted to get a FREE download but 10 million will pay $60?rybe1025

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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Yes, having Porsche in the game would be nice, but as you stated to most it's not a dealbreaker.

zero_snake99

It's not that big of a deal…..but honestly no… it's not better…Legal notices are required by the holder to keep any registered trademark from being infringed on and if any brand/ trademark that is used by the holder…. proper acknowledgement must be made to the holder of those brands.

Simply put..I have not found one document that states EA is the exclusive holder of the Porsche license..

I'm not calling you out specifically….. but more so the validity of the information. I have heard that quite a bit and I haven't found anything to back that claim up.

Not a big deal...

But what does that have to do with the claim that EA holds the licenses and sub lessees it out to T10 etc etc?