Wow GT5 to not have Porsche vehicles.. Polyphony is turning into a joke now.

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#202 ndawgdrake
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This thread is fail. I'm pretty damn sure they have RUF Porsches in GT5, since they had them in GT4. Look at the a few posts above mine for pics. /Thread.

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#203 McSkombi
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Yea but there have always been the RUF versions off the Porsches!

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#204 bigblunt537
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They have Ruf which are porches basically rebranded.

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#205 SecretPolice
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Maybe in place of a Porsche they include the exclusive..... Lambergotti Fastarosa.. it is one sweet ride !! :P

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.Kennysolidsnake

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

This is Porsche we are talking about, not some no name like Puegot or Citroen. Any serious racing sim must have porsche

Not some n no-name like those two? :lol:

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#207 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

Kennysolidsnake

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

This is Porsche we are talking about, not some no name like Puegot or Citroen. Any serious racing sim must have porsche

You obviously don't know anything about racing when you say that Citroen and Peugeot are no names.
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#208 Martin_G_N
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Not even RUF???

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#209 LOXO7
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I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

Kennysolidsnake

Professionalism is a joke now? Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that you need permission to take someone else's idea and put it into your own. Porshe didn't give this permission to Polyphony obviously.

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#210 foxhound_fox
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Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

Chutebox


One of the last few automakers that actually creates some serious performance racing machines.

I don't get the issue Polyphony has with acquiring a Porsche license. Almost every single other racing game these days features a Porsche 911 of some sort. Maybe they made a deal with RUF that hasn't finished yet?

Not having Porsche is a big deal. It was like not having Ferrari for all these years. I could understand not having Daihatsu or Daewoo... but Porsche is a very serious manufacturer.

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#212 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

LOXO7

Professionalism is a joke now? Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that you need permission to take someone else's idea and put it into your own. Porshe didn't give this permission to Polyphony obviously.

Look if they can't for some reason procure a Porsche licence for their game then something is incredibly wrong. If you can boast having 1000+ cars in your game and none of them are Porsches, someone isn't doing their job properly.

That said has anyone REALLY confirmed this to be true?

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#213 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

foxhound_fox


One of the last few automakers that actually creates some serious performance racing machines.

I don't get the issue Polyphony has with acquiring a Porsche license. Almost every single other racing game these days features a Porsche 911 of some sort. Maybe they made a deal with RUF that hasn't finished yet?

Not having Porsche is a big deal. It was like not having Ferrari for all these years. I could understand not having Daihatsu or Daewoo... but Porsche is a very serious manufacturer.

ESPECIALLY at the high performance level. They are some of the most highly rated cars on the planet. I don't understand how anyone could NOT see this as a problem.

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#214 WWIAB
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It will probably have RUF or Gemballa to make up for it I would like to see Porsche but its not a huge failure,
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

Who are you trying to kid?

Anyways, one automaker not in a game with so many damn cars is not a big deal.

Kennysolidsnake
This is Porsche we are talking about, not some no name like Puegot or Citroen. Any serious racing sim must have porsche

Peugeot or Citroen are nowhere near as necessary as Porsche for a racing game....but calling them a "no name" is really stupid
No one can defend PD for this, Porsche should be in GT5, just like Alfa romeo should have been in Forza1/2, but T10 addressed this with Forza 3.racing1750
Alfa Romeo was included, but in a pathetically poor state By offering 4 Alfa Romeo's, One classic, One Super car, The new hot hatch and a overly heavy yet good looking car Where was the Alfa Romeo 75? or Alfa Romeo SZ?
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

heretrix

Professionalism is a joke now? Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that you need permission to take someone else's idea and put it into your own. Porshe didn't give this permission to Polyphony obviously.

Look if they can't for some reason procure a Porsche licence for their game then something is incredibly wrong. If you can boast having 1000+ cars in your game and none of them are Porsches, someone isn't doing their job properly.

That said has anyone REALLY confirmed this to be true?

What I took from it is there will be no "official" Porsche cars in the game. But that doesn't mean they cant make cars that look similar to Porsche.

We won't find this symbol in the game.PorscheOh noes :shock: it's ruined!

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#216 razgriz_101
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they do have RUF i bet which are tuned porsche's :P so really the point tc is making is moot in some senses lol.

in essence its porsche with a bit more power and a tuning badge.And afaik EA hold the license for porsche in games alth with Porsche merging with Volkswagen next year we might be more likely to see them in GT6.

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#217 Bladex2k
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gt3 and gt 4 had poeche alla the ruf brand how many time did you ever use or care for them in gt4 ZERO!!! lol and in gt3 we was forces to by it for a few races

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#219 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]

I mean seriously PD?! lol, 6 years in development and GT5 wont even have Porsches?! WOW, polyphony is becoming a huge joke. I mean its only Porsche, i cant imagine it would be hard to have it in the biggest racing simulator. GT5 better be something special, the news gets worse everyday about this game. I wouldnt be suprised its not complete vaporware and wont ever release.

heretrix

Professionalism is a joke now? Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that you need permission to take someone else's idea and put it into your own. Porshe didn't give this permission to Polyphony obviously.

Look if they can't for some reason procure a Porsche licence for their game then something is incredibly wrong. If you can boast having 1000+ cars in your game and none of them are Porsches, someone isn't doing their job properly.

That said has anyone REALLY confirmed this to be true?

They didnt have them okay? M$ prolly bought the Porsche licence for the game and maybe did some deal so Porsche wont give PD the licence anymore.

Or that Porsche wants an insane ammount of money for it, or PDs lawyers screwed something up

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#220 razgriz_101
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gt3 and gt 4 had poeche alla the ruf brand how many time did you ever use or care for them in gt4 ZERO!!! lol and in gt3 we was forces to by it for a few races

Bladex2k

the RUF yellowbird waas one of the best cars imo in GT4 if you tuned it correctly it was a giant killer when it wanted to be xD.

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#221 tylergamereview
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Good. I hate porches. I think I there is a better chance of me getting this game now that they are not there.
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It will probably have RUF or Gemballa to make up for it [...]WWIAB

Ruf and Gemballa are tuner brands... they are not manufacturers per se. The thing about having Ruf is that people won't get a stock 911 that they can tune themselves. They will get a pre-tuned Ruf CTR3 or Turbo R that is three times as powerful as a stock 911.

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#223 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="LOXO7"] Professionalism is a joke now? Hmm. I remember reading somewhere that you need permission to take someone else's idea and put it into your own. Porshe didn't give this permission to Polyphony obviously.

LOXO7

Look if they can't for some reason procure a Porsche licence for their game then something is incredibly wrong. If you can boast having 1000+ cars in your game and none of them are Porsches, someone isn't doing their job properly.

That said has anyone REALLY confirmed this to be true?

What I took from it is there will be no "official" Porsche cars in the game. But that doesn't mean they cant make cars that look similar to Porsche.

We won't find this symbol in the game.PorscheOh noes :shock: it's ruined!

It's not the symbol but what the symbol represents. I'm not saying that this ruins the game, but to act like it isn't a disappointment to racing fans is moronic. It's like having a pro football game with one of it's most prominent teams missing.

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#224 lucky_star
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It has Ruf, so TC owned /THREAD

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#225 WWIAB
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[QUOTE="WWIAB"]It will probably have RUF or Gemballa to make up for it [...]foxhound_fox


Ruf and Gemballa are tuner brands... they are not manufacturers per se. The thing about having Ruf is that people won't get a stock 911 that they can tune themselves. They will get a pre-tuned Ruf CTR3 or Turbo R that is three times as powerful as a stock 911.

I'm fully aware of RUF and Gemballa....

But I always had a feeling that GT5 would feature RUF/Gemballa than the real thing

I suppose its like rather than having Mercedes, they could have Carlsson or Brabus (Brabus :()

A loss, but I'm not gonna collapse over it

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#226 CTR360
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no big deal for me
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#227 ferrarimanf355
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="KukicAdo"]The problem isn't designing the cars, the problem comes with licensing. EA has had the Porche lincese for a very long time, and is refusing to grant it to PD for a fair price, thus Porche automobiles won't be featured in the game. shinrabanshou

Do you have a link for that?

Well here's one link. http://www.porsche.com/china/en/interactive/needforspeedprostreet/

I believe EA have held the license since NFS: Porsche Unleashed. Typically all the NFS games carry this legal notice: "Porsche, the Porsche crest, 911 and Carrera are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. Licensed under certain patents."

Perhaps EA is refusing to sublicense, or perhaps the value proposition may not be deemed worthwhile to PD.

But the idea that PD are deliberately excluding Porsche cars because they're incapable of coding them, or are unwilling to, or are lazy... is frankly just dumb.

That doesn't prove anything. You're just making stuff up. Nowhere does that say that EA has exclusive dibs, and that doesn't explain why Forza 3 has Porsche. :|

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#228 rybe1025
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the only proble i see is there is no batmobile

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Hey at least Forza has Porsche and the ability to make a batmobile. There are even better Batman designs but no going through them all.

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#230 Disturbed123
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It has Ruf, so TC owned /THREAD

lucky_star

Indeed. I love how Lemmings are avoiding the obvious :lol:

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#231 XanderZane
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this game doesn't need Porsche

Rza_rectah
Any real race simulator should have Porsche's in them. Didn't the previous GT games have Porsche cars in them? Anyway, I don't think the will keep people from buying the game. All the delays aren't helping though.
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#232 enterawesome
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So? Aren't there, like, 900 other cars?
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#233 LOXO7
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It's not the symbol but what the symbol represents. I'm not saying that this ruins the game, but to act like it isn't a disappointment to racing fans is moronic. It's like having a pro football game with one of it's most prominent teams missing.

heretrix

Hey maybe you were right the first time when Polyphony couldn't find a way to finesse Porsche into the game. Or maybe it was Porsche's descision not to be in the game, like maybe Porsche has something against Polyphony and not Turn 10? That analogy is wack. It's more like having a pro football game with one of it's mostprominent advertisers missing. Because if a team is in an association, NFL, NBA, NHL, FIFA...

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#234 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]It's not the symbol but what the symbol represents. I'm not saying that this ruins the game, but to act like it isn't a disappointment to racing fans is moronic. It's like having a pro football game with one of it's most prominent teams missing.

LOXO7

Hey maybe you were right the first time when Polyphony couldn't find a way to finesse Porsche into the game. Or maybe it was Porsche's descision not to be in the game, like maybe Porsche has something against Polyphony and not Turn 10? That analogy is wack. It's more like having a pro football game with one of it's mostprominent advertisers missing. Because if a team is in an association, NFL, NBA, NHL, FIFA...

You are splitting hairs. Having a prominent team in a sports game is pretty much like the same as having a prominent vehicle manufacturer in a racer. Fans of both will be disappointed when they aren't represented. Both preform in game actions. Last time I checked you don't race a Gillette razer blade in any video game.

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[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

It has Ruf, so TC owned /THREAD

Disturbed123

Indeed. I love how Lemmings are avoiding the obvious :lol:


Avoiding the obvious what? That Ruf doesn't represent the values Porsche instills into the racing world? How many Ruf race cars has there been? Is there a Ruf 911 GT1? Is there a Ruf 911 GT3 RSR? Not in the slightest. Ruf is a street performance tuning company, not the thoroughbred racing manufacturer that has been building outstanding machines since the 356... and racing them since almost the same time.

Not having Porsche in the "real driving simulator" is a big deal... especially when they put so much emphasis on motorsports and racing.

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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

It has Ruf, so TC owned /THREAD

foxhound_fox

Indeed. I love how Lemmings are avoiding the obvious :lol:


Avoiding the obvious what? That Ruf doesn't represent the values Porsche instills into the racing world? How many Ruf race cars has there been? Is there a Ruf 911 GT1? Is there a Ruf 911 GT3 RSR? Not in the slightest. Ruf is a street performance tuning company, not the thoroughbred racing manufacturer that has been building outstanding machines since the 356... and racing them since almost the same time.

Not having Porsche in the "real driving simulator" is a big deal... especially when they put so much emphasis on motorsports and racing.

Then go buy a porsche in real life. Whooooo cares? If it bothers you that much dont buy the game.

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#237 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]It's not the symbol but what the symbol represents. I'm not saying that this ruins the game, but to act like it isn't a disappointment to racing fans is moronic. It's like having a pro football game with one of it's most prominent teams missing.

heretrix

Hey maybe you were right the first time when Polyphony couldn't find a way to finesse Porsche into the game. Or maybe it was Porsche's descision not to be in the game, like maybe Porsche has something against Polyphony and not Turn 10? That analogy is wack. It's more like having a pro football game with one of it's mostprominent advertisers missing. Because if a team is in an association, NFL, NBA, NHL, FIFA...

You are splitting hairs. Having a prominent team in a sports game is pretty much like the same as having a prominent vehicle manufacturer in a racer. Fans of both will be disappointed when they aren't represented. Both preform in game actions. Last time I checked you don't race a Gillette razer blade in any video game.

But theres certian rules you have to uphold if you belongin an accociation. Porsheisn't in GT5"League" because they don't belong to them. Yeah fans should be upset, but that's not Poly's fault. Well we don't know how hard they tried to get Porshe into the game. But fans should be more upset with Porshe. Now I'm starting to feel that Porshe is too good for GT5...

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#238 foxhound_fox
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Then go buy a porsche in real life. Whooooo cares? If it bothers you that much dont buy the game.

brennan7777


A $300 PS3 and $60 game is a lot cheaper than a $89,000 Porsche 911. And upgrades aren't cheap either. Nor is speeding tickets.

A video game allows me to do things with cars I wouldn't normally do on a public road, or have the money to have personally. Which is why a game of this calibre missing a top-of-the-line car brand like Porsche isn't something to sweep under the carpet.

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#239 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="Disturbed123"]

[QUOTE="lucky_star"]

It has Ruf, so TC owned /THREAD

foxhound_fox

Indeed. I love how Lemmings are avoiding the obvious :lol:


Avoiding the obvious what? That Ruf doesn't represent the values Porsche instills into the racing world? How many Ruf race cars has there been? Is there a Ruf 911 GT1? Is there a Ruf 911 GT3 RSR? Not in the slightest. Ruf is a street performance tuning company, not the thoroughbred racing manufacturer that has been building outstanding machines since the 356... and racing them since almost the same time.

Not having Porsche in the "real driving simulator" is a big deal... especially when they put so much emphasis on motorsports and racing.

RUF's are still porsche cars.

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#240 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]Then go buy a porsche in real life. Whooooo cares? If it bothers you that much dont buy the game.

foxhound_fox


A $300 PS3 and $60 game is a lot cheaper than a $89,000 Porsche 911. And upgrades aren't cheap either. Nor is speeding tickets.

A video game allows me to do things with cars I wouldn't normally do on a public road, or have the money to have personally. Which is why a game of this calibre missing a top-of-the-line car brand like Porsche isn't something to sweep under the carpet.

Then buy a different car game. Go buy forza.

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#241 foxhound_fox
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RUF's are still porsche cars.

dream431ca


The Ruf CTR3 isn't.

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#242 bloodcord
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this has to be the worst GT5 bash thread I have ever seen...It has a RUF you can as much pretend its a Porsche unless some one finds a real real link explaining why Porsche's are missing you only pretending to know anything, just like you can pretend a RUF a porsche.

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#243 supa_badman
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But... I haven't seen a link? :?

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#244 AlMar12345
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They have Ruff, and Ruff is just a company that tunes Porches and makes them arguably cooler looking. Can you really complain?

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#245 lowe0
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I wasn't aware that EA's contract was up in March, but if that's true, then I wouldn't be surprised to see an all-Porsche DLC in the future.
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#246 clyde46
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Boo hoo, GT never had Porsche, they had RUF. DO you know why GT doesnt have Porsche? Its because Porsche are most likely charging insane amount of money for royalites!

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#247 DonPerian
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porsche is my favorite car manufacturer so that's kind of a bummer...
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#248 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]RUF's are still porsche cars.

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The Ruf CTR3 isn't.

Big deal. Making such a fuss about this is laughable. Plus I'd take that CTR3 over any Porsche any day. I mean just look at it.

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#249 MadVybz
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If you ask me, any game that it gonna go the extra mile to have 1,000+ cars in it needs to at least have Porsche...

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#250 GTSaiyanjin2
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GT5 has RUF