Sad that Ron and few other xbawks fanatics have bailed, going from "scorpio will use ryzen" to "it's so much more advanced design that it can't be called Jaguar anymore" and then we get to see the benchmark only to find out its literally the same shit. One X could have 10tf GPU and I wouldn't buy one for 500
@quadknight: Dude your just a rabbid Xbox hater, look at my posting history. First of all look at Forza ,Wolfenstein:NC and Gears of War 4 the X1X stomps a 1060 and will continue to do so as long as the ports are not half assed. If you want to bash the X1X then do it effectively. Like why Sonys exclusives on the Pro manage to stomp anything on the X1X.
I'm not a rabid Xbox hater, I'm a rabid hater of misinformed lems, there's a difference.
Even though I don't own or want an Xbone, I don't see it as a bad console. It's just a redundant one for me since I already own a PC more powerful than it that plays all its games. I still think it's a decent console for people that want to play western games and don't care much for exclusives. You only mentioned 3 games, two of which are debatable while my OP shows 4 games that clearly look and run better on a GTX 1060 PC. That's not a stomp, in fact I'd say the GTX 1060 PC beats a 1X based on the games I've shown. Talent and optimization go a long way when it comes to graphics on consoles, and it's the reason why PS4 Pro exclusives are giving the 1X a run for its money, you're right but sometimes brute force overcomes all. In this case, the GTX 1060 equipped with a non-bottlenecking CPU will outperform a 1X most of the time.
Sad that Ron and few other xbawks fanatics have bailed, going from "scorpio will use ryzen" to "it's so much more advanced design that it can't be called Jaguar anymore" and then we get to see the benchmark only to find out its literally the same shit. One X could have 10tf GPU and I wouldn't buy one for 500
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
@GioVela2010: 1060 isn't on your chart and I highly doubt 1X runs Gears 4 at native 4K with real ultra settings like a PC does.
I'd like to see proof it does if you can post it.
However, even if it does it's pointless. That's one game you've shown running better on 1X if you find proof while my OP shows 6 games running better or the same on a GTX 1060. The 1060 is still winning.
Point is Jermgaming is blind as a bat if he didnt notice Dynamic Shadows, therefore his whole Video review is shit
and 1060 is on that chart, choking along at 21 FRames minimum
@GioVela2010: 1060 isn't on your chart and I highly doubt 1X runs Gears 4 at native 4K with real ultra settings like a PC does.
I'd like to see proof it does if you can post it.
However, even if it does it's pointless. That's one game you've shown running better on 1X if you find proof while my OP shows 6 games running better or the same on a GTX 1060. The 1060 is still winning.
Point is Jermgaming is blind as a bat if he didnt notice Dynamic Shadows, therefore his whole Video review is shit
and 1060 is on that chart, choking along at 21 FRames minimum
Interesting.
You got any proof the 1X is running the game at PC ULTRA settings at Native 4K like the 1060? Because if you don't the comparison is pointless.
@GioVela2010: 1060 isn't on your chart and I highly doubt 1X runs Gears 4 at native 4K with real ultra settings like a PC does.
I'd like to see proof it does if you can post it.
However, even if it does it's pointless. That's one game you've shown running better on 1X if you find proof while my OP shows 6 games running better or the same on a GTX 1060. The 1060 is still winning.
Point is Jermgaming is blind as a bat if he didnt notice Dynamic Shadows, therefore his whole Video review is shit
and 1060 is on that chart, choking along at 21 FRames minimum
Interesting.
You got any proof the 1X is running the game at PC ULTRA settings at Native 4K like the 1060? Because if you don't the comparison is pointless.
gamespots Quote is a good starting point, DF’s preliminary analysis seemed positive too.
guess we’ll just have to wait for DF’s final analysis which should be coming soon
@GioVela2010: 1060 isn't on your chart and I highly doubt 1X runs Gears 4 at native 4K with real ultra settings like a PC does.
I'd like to see proof it does if you can post it.
However, even if it does it's pointless. That's one game you've shown running better on 1X if you find proof while my OP shows 6 games running better or the same on a GTX 1060. The 1060 is still winning.
Point is Jermgaming is blind as a bat if he didnt notice Dynamic Shadows, therefore his whole Video review is shit
and 1060 is on that chart, choking along at 21 FRames minimum
Interesting.
You got any proof the 1X is running the game at PC ULTRA settings at Native 4K like the 1060? Because if you don't the comparison is pointless.
gamespots Quote is a good starting point, DF’s preliminary analysis seemed positive too.
guess we’ll just have to wait for DF’s final analysis which should be coming soon
Ok, I'll wait for DF.
I don't trust GS at all when it comes to things like this.
Oh I understood damn well what you said, but it is a stupid ass thing to say.
Is it?
If I had a choice between buying a PS4/Switch/XBOX1X as a second system (Hypothetically as I own them all except the xbox) the xbox would be last, because it literally has no added value in terms of its games. It's not stupid, its quite sensible really.
Hence why I don't have one... go figure.
That’s funny i feel the same way about PC.
2 Nintendo Switches (4 Home Bases)
1 Xbox One
1 Xbox One X
1 PS4 Pro
0 PC
PC offers nothing until 2021 for me
You are a curious case, you claim to spend thousands upon thousands, yet the most enthusiast platform is left untouched, despite being able to do everything the others can and more.
Can it play Uncharted 4?
I gaurentee if you were REALLY honest with yourself, you could find a handful of games you would end up liking far more and playing far more.. even if they ain't as pretty. But no it can't.
But hey, if ones limit is a 10 hour scripted dated TPS mostly known for its graphics, then yea, you can play the preference card.. of a list you can count on 1-2 hands over a 6 year period.... with many more options being available on the system completely ignored.
If I had a choice between buying a PS4/Switch/XBOX1X as a second system (Hypothetically as I own them all except the xbox) the xbox would be last, because it literally has no added value in terms of its games. It's not stupid, its quite sensible really.
Hence why I don't have one... go figure.
That’s funny i feel the same way about PC.
2 Nintendo Switches (4 Home Bases)
1 Xbox One
1 Xbox One X
1 PS4 Pro
0 PC
PC offers nothing until 2021 for me
You are a curious case, you claim to spend thousands upon thousands, yet the most enthusiast platform is left untouched, despite being able to do everything the others can and more.
Can it play Uncharted 4?
I gaurentee if you were REALLY honest with yourself, you could find a handful of games you would end up liking far more and playing far more.. even if they ain't as pretty. But no it can't.
But hey, if ones limit is a 10 hour scripted dated TPS mostly known for its graphics, then yea, you can play the preference card.. of a list you can count on 1-2 hands over a 6 year period.... with many more options being available on the system completely ignored.
You are a curious case, you claim to spend thousands upon thousands, yet the most enthusiast platform is left untouched, despite being able to do everything the others can and more.
Can it play Uncharted 4?
I gaurentee if you were REALLY honest with yourself, you could find a handful of games you would end up liking far more and playing far more.. even if they ain't as pretty. But no it can't.
But hey, if ones limit is a 10 hour scripted dated TPS mostly known for its graphics, then yea, you can play the preference card.. of a list you can count on 1-2 hands over a 6 year period.... with many more options being available on the system completely ignored.
Uncharted 4, 10/10.
youre the one playing the preference card
10/10 in one genre, 10 hours campaign. Multiplayer doesn't hold a candle to any of the greats (because Sony simply can't do it).
These are quick consumption vanity games, lets be honest.
Not sure what OP is trying to achieve here. $700 PC = $500 console. That PC even has a slightly better CPU so you'd expect slightly better results. Many of the console games have HDR vs missing on PC. Even with X1X equating to 1060 power, it's still a good buy.
Read my OP and stop trying to put words into my mouth. I already stated everything you said right now. 1X is good value for money, I’ve stated that in my OP and many times in this thread already.
The reason I made the thread is to inform people that were listening to idiots like Ron that said a 1X was equivalent to a highend PC (GTX 1070 and above) which it isn’t. We’ve had clowns like him running around since the before the release of the 1X hyping it as a system that can go toe to toe with highend PCs, and in the process confusing and misinforming people. This thread is to set the record straight, it is not to say the 1X is weak or shitty value for money. It's a powerful console that can go head to head with a mid-range PC equipped with a GTX 1060 or RX580.
BTW, your last point about HDR makes no sense at all. HDR doesn't affect gameplay and it's not exclusive to consoles. 60fps on all games is possible with a GTX 1060 equipped PC in addition to mods and all the benefits of PC gaming that actually affect gameplay. I would argue benefits of a mid-range PC far outweigh having a superficial benefit like HDR.
My HDR comment makes perfect sense. It's more common on console currently, and it 100% adds to the image fidelity, even if it has zero performance impact. The fact that Windows 10 HDR settings are super messed up, and that most PC games don't support it still means console will deliver a better more accurate picture in terms of color for many games that do support HDR on console.
Console - cheaper than PC equivalent parts
Console - more games support HDR
Console - no build, just plug and play, everything included
Yes, if you have more money, go PC and get the highest graphics settings you can muster, but apples to apples, the PC equivalent to the X1X will cost you more. The X1X GPU is, on paper, around a 1060 spec, but a PC can also suffer from any number of other interfering components running on a shared PCIe bus. Plus potential driver issues, optimization differences, and the fact that the OS shares the resources on the GFX card which is why the X1X can outperform the 1060 in real benchmarks versus what it says on paper.
If your argument is "hey everybody, the X1X graphic card is spec'd closer to a 1060, so there!" then yes, it is. But it's real performance is not because of many other factors in the nature of a PC build vs a custom hardware build.
@Phazevariance: um you might want to recheck on pci-e interface the 16x_1&2 connect to cpu, while the pci-e ssd etc connect to the chipset of the motherboard
Yet you have to buy a HDR capable TV before you can even make use of the feature.....
Then you can buy prebuilt PC's allowing a plug and play experience,
Now suggesting interference with components running on a shared PCIe bus is a bunch of bologna.
Then stating PC has "potential driver issues, optimization differences, and the fact that the OS shares the resources on the GFX card which is why the X1X can outperform the 1060 in real benchmarks versus what it says on paper."
Really?
consoles have update issues, every game and engine have optimization and performance differences and as well, and also OS's on consoles eat into the memory pool and hardware resources as well..... OS and features have a 3gb reserve of the 12gb pool and a minimum of one cpu core for it.
x1x can not beat a gtx 1060 flat out with its lack luster cpu holding it back.
@Phazevariance: You have no idea what you’re talking about. Different components has no effect on performance and OS tax on system is negligible on modern PCs. Driver issues are also not a problem on modern PCs since everything is plug ‘n play. When was the last time you used a PC for gaming? It’s almost like you’re stuck in 2003 with all the arguments you’re making.
You also state that HDR is commonplace in consoles while failing to note that you need a HDR capabale TV in the first place.
The 1060 outperforms the X1X in the video I showed. 4 our of the 6 games run better on the 1060 and only 2 of them are equaled by the 1X or slightly better. The 1060 equipped PC is also able to hit 60fps in games the 1X can’t. I think most people would take better framerates over HDR any day. In fact, most would take better framerates over resolution too. The 1X is seriously bottlenecked by the Jaguar and it can’t outperform a PC with a decent CPU and a 1060 thanks to this fact.
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
Sad that Ron and few other xbawks fanatics have bailed, going from "scorpio will use ryzen" to "it's so much more advanced design that it can't be called Jaguar anymore" and then we get to see the benchmark only to find out its literally the same shit. One X could have 10tf GPU and I wouldn't buy one for 500
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
Which is false because the CPU is a piece of crap. It'll tend to run high-resolution games at better fps than anything below a 1060 but 1080p, which is still the most common resolution for both console and PC gamers will run better on a 1060+low-end CPU than on the X1X.
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
You blind? Check out th HDR/SDR split screen comparison in Gears of War By DF
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
Same issue I have. In fact, the only time I've really noticed HDR in a big way is when I play GT Sport or HZD.
The 1060 outperforms the X1X in the video I showed. 4 our of the 6 games run better on the 1060 and only 2 of them are equaled by the 1X or slightly better. The 1060 equipped PC is also able to hit 60fps in games the 1X can’t. I think most people would take better framerates over HDR any day. In fact, most would take better framerates over resolution too. The 1X is seriously bottlenecked by the Jaguar and it can’t outperform a PC with a decent CPU and a 1060 thanks to this fact.
Lmao according to a PC Gamer that can’t spot the difference between Static Shadows and Dynamic Shadows.
you guys really taking this as a win ? Hahahahahabahanabnababannabababa
And just FYI here some more Gamespoy quotes regarding performance mode for X1X. Granted I don’t give a shit about performance mode, I got my X1X for my gorgeous 4K HDR OLED
“The PC versions used Ultra graphics settings at 1080p and ran off a system equipped with two Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 video cards in SLI. Aside from visual quality, you'll notice that the PC version runs 60+ frames per second, but the Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode.”
Sad that Ron and few other xbawks fanatics have bailed, going from "scorpio will use ryzen" to "it's so much more advanced design that it can't be called Jaguar anymore" and then we get to see the benchmark only to find out its literally the same shit. One X could have 10tf GPU and I wouldn't buy one for 500
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
A completely moot point since probably less than 1% of Xbone gamers own a 1X and a 4KTV capable of HDR.
The 1060 outperforms the X1X in the video I showed. 4 our of the 6 games run better on the 1060 and only 2 of them are equaled by the 1X or slightly better. The 1060 equipped PC is also able to hit 60fps in games the 1X can’t. I think most people would take better framerates over HDR any day. In fact, most would take better framerates over resolution too. The 1X is seriously bottlenecked by the Jaguar and it can’t outperform a PC with a decent CPU and a 1060 thanks to this fact.
Lmao according to a PC Gamer that can’t spot the difference between Static Shadows and Dynamic Shadows.
you guys really taking this as a win ? Hahahahahabahanabnababannabababa
And just FYI here some more Gamespoy quotes regarding performance mode for X1X. Granted I don’t give a shit about performance mode, I got my X1X for my gorgeous 4K HDR OLED
“The PC versions used Ultra graphics settings at 1080p and ran off a system equipped with two Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 video cards in SLI. Aside from visual quality, you'll notice that the PC version runs 60+ frames per second, but the Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode.”
Watch gamespot video in the link above, X1X sure looks PC Ultra to me
Like I said earlier dude, Gamespot isn't proof of anything when it comes to graphics. They are total noobs IMO.
I'll wait for DF like we agreed.
Some proof GS can't be trusted, they say "the Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode." and yet the framerate dips to 44fps in DF's analysis....
Same issue I have. In fact, the only time I've really noticed HDR in a big way is when I play GT Sport or HZD.
i barely notice it in UHD movies or Netflix.
I'm thinking maybe we need OLED to really spot the difference. In HZD I do notice HDR quite easily but it's more because of how ugly SDR looks. For some reason SDR on my TV in Horizon looks very greyish. HDR looks very good but usually, the difference isn't that dramatic. It simply seems SDR on an HDR TV looks worse than other SDR games in Horizon.
The video @GioVela2010 showed for Gears of War 4 makes me able to spot the difference but it isn't a game changer. Most of the colors are the same except for the bright whites(like when he looks at the sky it really shines in HDR but is kinda drab in SDR). The mountains in the distance are also a brighter shade of green. Aside from that they look pretty similar.
Sad that Ron and few other xbawks fanatics have bailed, going from "scorpio will use ryzen" to "it's so much more advanced design that it can't be called Jaguar anymore" and then we get to see the benchmark only to find out its literally the same shit. One X could have 10tf GPU and I wouldn't buy one for 500
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
A completely moot point since probably less than 1% of Xbone gamers own a 1X and a 4KTV capable of HDR.
The 1060 outperforms the X1X in the video I showed. 4 our of the 6 games run better on the 1060 and only 2 of them are equaled by the 1X or slightly better. The 1060 equipped PC is also able to hit 60fps in games the 1X can’t. I think most people would take better framerates over HDR any day. In fact, most would take better framerates over resolution too. The 1X is seriously bottlenecked by the Jaguar and it can’t outperform a PC with a decent CPU and a 1060 thanks to this fact.
Lmao according to a PC Gamer that can’t spot the difference between Static Shadows and Dynamic Shadows.
you guys really taking this as a win ? Hahahahahabahanabnababannabababa
And just FYI here some more Gamespoy quotes regarding performance mode for X1X. Granted I don’t give a shit about performance mode, I got my X1X for my gorgeous 4K HDR OLED
“The PC versions used Ultra graphics settings at 1080p and ran off a system equipped with two Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 video cards in SLI. Aside from visual quality, you'll notice that the PC version runs 60+ frames per second, but the Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode.”
Watch gamespot video in the link above, X1X sure looks PC Ultra to me
Like I said earlier dude, Gamespot isn't proof of anything when it comes to graphics. They are total noobs IMO.
I'll wait for DF like we agreed.
Some proof GS can't be trusted, they say "the Xbox One X can get close to that framerate when set to Performance mode." and yet the framerate dips to 44fps in DF's analysis....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6al1JUYB_c
You’re now comparing Gamespot talking about average frame rate vs DF’s video showing minimum frame rates.
not Exactly an apples to apples comparison now is it.
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
A completely moot point since probably less than 1% of Xbone gamers own a 1X and a 4KTV capable of HDR.
which survey helped you come to that conclusion?
I can can pull up my source, can you?
Same worthless survey you used lol.
You know Steam survey is worthless for knowing the actual number of PCs out there with powerful graphics cards right? It's completely optional and on top of that not every PC gamer chooses uses Steam.
MS' 1X numbers are tough to come up with since MS can't even share basic information on how many Xbone's they've sold in total.
Let's say they've sold between 1-2 million X1X's worldwide since they launched out of approximately 35 million Xbone (I'm being generous as even this 35 million could be bullshit). That's about 4-5% of total Xbones out there. Considering not every Xbone owner out there will own a 4KTV, and even less will own a 4KTV capable of HDR, I don't see how my number is so far-fetched.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
Which is false because the CPU is a piece of crap. It'll tend to run high-resolution games at better fps than anything below a 1060 but 1080p, which is still the most common resolution for both console and PC gamers will run better on a 1060+low-end CPU than on the X1X.
Ok so at worst its 4K performance is better than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s.
It's funny how quick they bailed and how quick the remaining lems flip-flopped on this issue. A year ago we were hearing how the 1X would send owners of high-end PCs packing, now people are saying they only hyped it to be more powerful than a Pro and never mentioned PCs.
I mean it’s still more powerful than 90-95% of Gaming PC’s with a Steam Account
A completely moot point since probably less than 1% of Xbone gamers own a 1X and a 4KTV capable of HDR.
which survey helped you come to that conclusion?
I can can pull up my source, can you?
Same worthless survey you used lol.
You know Steam survey is worthless for knowing the actual number of PCs out there with powerful graphics cards right? It's completely optional and on top of that not every PC gamer chooses uses Steam.
MS' 1X numbers are tough to come up with since MS can't even share basic information on how many Xbone's they've sold in total.
Let's say they've sold between 1-2 million X1X's worldwide since they launched out of approximately 35 million Xbone (I'm being generous as even this 35 million could be bullshit). That's about 4-5% of total Xbones out there. Considering not every Xbone owner out there will own a 4KTV, and even less will own a 4KTV capable of HDR, I don't see how my number is so far-fetched.
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
You blind? Check out th HDR/SDR split screen comparison in Gears of War By DF
Loading Video...
https://youtu.be/t6al1JUYB_c
First actual piece of content where I can clearly see there is a nice difference.
All the same however, proves how little additional colour boosts are noticeable without a side by side comparison, your eyes adjust to the colour and it becomes less of a "big thing" after a very short period of time when using the same display.
Gsync and 144 FPS limit are far more noticeable in action.
Either way, you are on a losing arguement (again) anyway.... because there are 35' Curved NANO-IPS displays (600 Nit mind you....) HDR displays coming with 2, 4 and 5k resolution soon that include 120/144Hz and GSync/FreeSync.
You are a curious case, you claim to spend thousands upon thousands, yet the most enthusiast platform is left untouched, despite being able to do everything the others can and more.
Can it play Uncharted 4?
I gaurentee if you were REALLY honest with yourself, you could find a handful of games you would end up liking far more and playing far more.. even if they ain't as pretty. But no it can't.
But hey, if ones limit is a 10 hour scripted dated TPS mostly known for its graphics, then yea, you can play the preference card.. of a list you can count on 1-2 hands over a 6 year period.... with many more options being available on the system completely ignored.
Uncharted 4, 10/10.
youre the one playing the preference card
10/10 in one genre, 10 hours campaign. Multiplayer doesn't hold a candle to any of the greats (because Sony simply can't do it).
These are quick consumption vanity games, lets be honest.
I was addicted to the Last of Us multiplayer. That MP was legit.
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
You blind? Check out th HDR/SDR split screen comparison in Gears of War By DF
Loading Video...
https://youtu.be/t6al1JUYB_c
First actual piece of content where I can clearly see there is a nice difference.
All the same however, proves how little additional colour boosts are noticeable without a side by side comparison, your eyes adjust to the colour and it becomes less of a "big thing" after a very short period of time when using the same display.
Gsync and 144 FPS limit are far more noticeable in action.
Either way, you are on a losing arguement (again) anyway.... because there are 35' Curved NANO-IPS displays (600 Nit mind you....) HDR displays coming with 2, 4 and 5k resolution soon that include 120/144Hz and GSync/FreeSync.
Leagues apart still.
not OLED, don’t care
BTW Microsoft has promised VRR firmware update for X1X (Gsync/FreeSync)
Someone needs to point me in the direction of "Amazing HDR" content, because I have a 4k 1000 nit HDR capable TV and I barely notice it's existance.
Hell, even with the feature on I cannot select it in Monster Hunter on the PS4 Pro.
On Netflix its barely noticable.
Sure, my TV has better colours than my IPS monitor (in some respects), but my monitor does 144fps and gysnc with 4 ms latency....... you know, things that actually have "standards" currently. Half these High-end TV's have to be turned onto "Game Mode" for better latency sacrificing colour anyway.... its a joke. The TV was a £1700 2016 "high end non OLED" before anyone claims I "cheaped out"
You blind? Check out th HDR/SDR split screen comparison in Gears of War By DF
Loading Video...
https://youtu.be/t6al1JUYB_c
First actual piece of content where I can clearly see there is a nice difference.
All the same however, proves how little additional colour boosts are noticeable without a side by side comparison, your eyes adjust to the colour and it becomes less of a "big thing" after a very short period of time when using the same display.
Gsync and 144 FPS limit are far more noticeable in action.
Either way, you are on a losing arguement (again) anyway.... because there are 35' Curved NANO-IPS displays (600 Nit mind you....) HDR displays coming with 2, 4 and 5k resolution soon that include 120/144Hz and GSync/FreeSync.
Leagues apart still.
not OLED, don’t care
BTW Microsoft has promised VRR firmware update for X1X (Gsync/FreeSync)
Is that launching along with teh power of teh cloud?
BTW Microsoft has promised VRR firmware update for X1X (Gsync/FreeSync)
Someone doesn't know what they are talking about. GSync is proprietary to NVIDIA so no, it's not coming to the X1X. Not to mention it's beyond useless for the X1X which tends to have games with locked frame rates.
The reason I’m not interested in the xbox1x isn’t because of lack of power it’s because of lack of games. A pc with a 1060 can play literally thousands of games via steam, gog, origin, etc. If i could play all these games on xbox like i can on my pc i would buy a 1X right now.
BTW Microsoft has promised VRR firmware update for X1X (Gsync/FreeSync)
Someone doesn't know what they are talking about. GSync is proprietary to NVIDIA so no, it's not coming to the X1X. Not to mention it's beyond useless for the X1X which tends to have games with locked frame rates.
I meant X1X is getting its own implementation of gsync/FreeSync smart guy.
And of course they’re locked, nobody wants screen tearing, that’ll change once VRR firmware is ready
@Juub1990: Of course he doesn’t know what GSync is. Don’t waste your time with him.
Are you guys for real? You guys seem to think freesync/gsync is PC exclusive lol
Freesync2 is baked into Xbox One X, and it will happen over HDMI (VRR is part of HDMI 2.1 spec, like E-ARC, and QMS, but some HDMI 2.1 features will still be available to HDMI 2.0)
Are you guys for real? You guys seem to think freesync/gsync is PC exclusive lol
Freesync2 is baked into Xbox One X, and it will happen over HDMI (VRR is part of HDMI 2.1 spec, like E-ARC, and QMS, but some HDMI 2.1 features will still be available to HDMI 2.0)
Considering GSync and FreeSync have distinct differences and GSync needs displays with proprietary features from NVIDIA yet you lump them in the same category, I'm going to assume you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Are you guys for real? You guys seem to think freesync/gsync is PC exclusive lol
Freesync2 is baked into Xbox One X, and it will happen over HDMI (VRR is part of HDMI 2.1 spec, like E-ARC, and QMS, but some HDMI 2.1 features will still be available to HDMI 2.0)
Co
Gsync needs displays with proprietary features from NVIDIA
Not saying this but you're saying "you guys think FreeSync and GSync are PC exclusives?" which GSync absolutely is and you're also dumping them together but they aren't the same thing. FreeSync still needs a FreeSync capable display. It also can be supported by the Xbox One X because duh, it has an AMD GPU. Variable Refresh Rates are one part of the equation.
Read this
This will give you a much better idea of what they do, something you seem to be uninformed/misinformed about.
Not saying this but you're saying "you guys think FreeSync and GSync are PC exclusives?" which GSync absolutely is and you're also dumping them together but they aren't the same thing. FreeSync still needs a FreeSync capable display. It also can be supported by the Xbox One X because duh, it has an AMD GPU. Variable Refresh Rates are one part of the equation.
Read this
This will give you a much better idea of what they do, something you seem to be uninformed/misinformed about.
In the end Free Sync and GSync are Variable Refresh Rate Texhnologies. I obviously mean that you guys are mistaken if you think Variable Refresh Rates are exclusive to PC’s.
The article is Irrelevant since X1X has FreeSync 2, not regular Freesync.
And No X1X won’t need a “Freesync capable display”. Such jargon is non existent in the HDTV world. It will need a VRR capable Display, some already exist.
Log in to comment