Xbox 720 to ship with "insanely powerful CPU"

lol, cause that is all you need is a CPU. nothing else.

Everyone just needs to look at the facts. Prices, performance, and release dates. You simply cannot expect something better than current PC's to come out. I don't expect them to even come close to matching the best PC's right now. Of course there is optomization and all, but in terms of specs, some people have unrealistic expectations.

The lighting looks a million times better on 360 to me and is more dynamic than PC

I dont even see any lighting on PC pic, it looks all baked ans static, while 360 has perfect realism and dynamic lighting from the sun, rather obviously

I would not touch the PC version with a 10.000 foot pole after seeing the above pics

It is so funny PC people talking graphics all the time and now Witcher 2 lighting looks a million times better on 360, makes the whole deal of PC graphics talk so laughable

AMazing how 360 has moved to the true next gen with Witcher 2 360 EDITION, Ryse and Halo 3 and PC is still back in 2009 in lighting and effects

loosingENDS

:roll:

no surprise that this nonsense come from loosingENDS...

ok, back to reality now:

"Xbox World speculates that all those extra cores might be needed to drive the next generation of Microsoft's Kinect 3D camera, which they speculate will be able to track multiple players "down to their fingertips."

Guess I better sell my PC and buy me some Kinect 3D.

lol, cause that is all you need is a CPU. nothing else.

NaveedLife

It depends what type of CPU. It would be possible to make a CPU with many GPU features and functions but it would be expensive to do so and would still be less effective than a CPU + GPU combo (see Sony's Cell for example).

i have started to believe that loosingends is a sony fanboy passing as a 360 one to create hate towards the 360 and its fans,i haven't see any lemming claiming or thinking 360 games look better that PC ones...unlike sony fanboys that still think that every ps3 exclusive looks better than crysis on PC etc..Tessellation

"started to believe"? I feel genuinely sorry for anyone who actually thinks Loser believes a tenth of the BS he writes here. Of course he's a fakeboy, nobody's THAT stupid! :roll:

The sad part isn't all the BS, but the fact that he spends so much time and effort here playing his part. Someone seems to have a rotten life!

On topic : XBox 720 gets improved version of teh Cell confirmed!:shock: MS to finish last in sales next gen!

Let's hope they give it a 'cool' name like the Cell so the console kids will think it's more powerful than it really is.

Let's hope they give it a 'cool' name like the Cell so the console kids will think it's more powerful than it really is.

-Unreal-

This thread shows that that has already happened

PS4 is going to get squashed next gen.Miketheman83

Yep. So is the 720 and WiiU, by the godly PC :). Anyone buying a console for its hardware is doing it wrong :P.

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The lighting looks a million times better on 360 to me and is more dynamic than PC

I dont even see any lighting on PC pic, it looks all baked ans static, while 360 has perfect realism and dynamic lighting from the sun, rather obviously

I would not touch the PC version with a 10.000 foot pole after seeing the above pics

It is so funny PC people talking graphics all the time and now Witcher 2 lighting looks a million times better on 360, makes the whole deal of PC graphics talk so laughable

AMazing how 360 has moved to the true next gen with Witcher 2 360 EDITION, Ryse and Halo 3 and PC is still back in 2009 in lighting and effects

MK-Professor

:roll:

no surprise that this nonsense come from loosingENDS...

ok, back to reality now:

First thing i noticed: no shadows, and the 360 trees look like sprites

Let's hope they give it a 'cool' name like the Cell so the console kids will think it's more powerful than it really is.

-Unreal-

they'll call it the deceptacon

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The lighting looks a million times better on 360 to me and is more dynamic than PC

I dont even see any lighting on PC pic, it looks all baked ans static, while 360 has perfect realism and dynamic lighting from the sun, rather obviously

I would not touch the PC version with a 10.000 foot pole after seeing the above pics

It is so funny PC people talking graphics all the time and now Witcher 2 lighting looks a million times better on 360, makes the whole deal of PC graphics talk so laughable

AMazing how 360 has moved to the true next gen with Witcher 2 360 EDITION, Ryse and Halo 3 and PC is still back in 2009 in lighting and effects

wis3boi

:roll:

no surprise that this nonsense come from loosingENDS...

ok, back to reality now:

First thing i noticed: no shadows, and the 360 trees look like sprites

How powerful are we talking?

Kinect should have its own CPU. Then maybe there wouldn't be so much lag.

How powerful are we talking?

mitu123

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

wis3boi

RIP ps4

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

sSubZerOo

Playstation might be last place in graphics next gen like it was last gen and the gen before that.Kaszilla

This is interesting if it's true. Microsoft will need to release a powerful machine, especially with them no knowing what kind of specs Sony will be pushing when it drops the PS4. It will be nice to see if they do come through with a "insanely powerful CPU". I prefer gaming on consoles, but my PC is much better in the visual dept. right now.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

austi722

http://asia.cnet.com/xbox-720-to-ship-with-insanely-powerful-cpu-62214281.htm

Wow, 720 is looking be so advanced. I am glad Microsoft isn't going casual like all the biased cows would lead you to believe.

CAnnot wait for e3

reach3

[QUOTE="austi722"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] .. Yet it lacks ram to nto even be able to do basic functions like a cross game chat, or party system.. godzillavskong

RIP ps4

KBFloYd

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="austi722"] The PS4 could easily add that ram tho for little cost. Sony should go PS2 route again. Not as powerful. But tons of games. Make it come out before xbox 720 does and it will sale more. Sony should trying making good but cheap hardware. And sell the console not a loss. Besides, this gen was to much about graphics. We need more games. ronvalencia

http://asia.cnet.com/xbox-720-to-ship-with-insanely-powerful-cpu-62214281.htm

Wow, 720 is looking be so advanced. I am glad Microsoft isn't going casual like all the biased cows would lead you to believe.

CAnnot wait for e3

reach3

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

sSubZerOo

Do you know how to read? Why is that pesky "yet" even in there when you're essentially joining in on the other guy's attack on the PS3.

On topic: I'll wait until E3, or whenever Microsoft decides to give us some official information.

People who believe everything that they read are the Internet version of people who move their lips while they read in real life.

People who believe everything that they read are the Internet version of people who move their lips while they read in real life.

LordQuorthon

:lol::lol::lol:

Sig-worthy

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="godzillavskong"] Sony has always been about custom cpus on their platform. Emotion engine, Cell, and even with their first entry into the market with the PSX they had a custom chip made by Ken Kutaragi. I'm sure spelled his name wrong though. The Emotion Engine in the PS3 was quite the performer and seemed like it would just keep improving, and improving, no matter how old it was. Great system. godzillavskong

Dave Shippy made a comment on ATI's Xenos GPU.

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"I'm going to have to answer with an 'it depends,'" laughs Shippy, after a pause. "Again, they're completely different models. So in the PS3, you've got this Cell chip which has massive parallel processing power, the PowerPC core, multiple SPU cores? it's got a GPU that is, in the model here, processing more in the Cell chip and less in the GPU. So that's one processing paradigm -- a heterogeneous paradigm."

"With the Xbox 360, you've got more of a traditional multi-core system, and you've got three PowerPC cores, each of them having dual threads -- so you've got six threads running there, at least in the CPU. Six threads in Xbox 360, and eight or nine threads in the PS3 -- but then you've got to factor in the GPU," Shippy explains. "The GPU is highly sophisticated in the Xbox 360."

He concludes: "At the end of the day, when you put them all together, depending on the software, I think they're pretty equal, even though they're completely different processing models."

http://asia.cnet.com/xbox-720-to-ship-with-insanely-powerful-cpu-62214281.htm

Wow, 720 is looking be so advanced. I am glad Microsoft isn't going casual like all the biased cows would lead you to believe.

CAnnot wait for e3

reach3

The next gen PS4 and Xbox should both be able to runs games easily at 1080p and so maybe the devs will be able to add in some texture filtering, that should make a huge difference to the next gen image quality.

Next gen Halo 5 and Forza 5 as Graphics Kings Confirmed. :D :twisted:

Anyhoo, I think the CPU very much needs to be powerful for Kinect 2 with nealy zero lag but we shall see.

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

wis3boi

Uh.. the 360 has a better GPU than the PS3... so I fail to follow your logic.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

Phazevariance

Uh.. the 360 has a better GPU than the PS3... so I fail to follow your logic.

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] CELL's SPE instruction set is based on PowerPC's VMX while ATI Xenos is not based on any known CPU instruction set.Blaz3_fox

The Cell is slower then the 360 CPU in normal cpu jobs and in MIPS performance the 360 can do 19000, while PS3 can only do 10,000. However for parallel processing then yes the Cell kills the 360's cpu. However cpu's are not designed to singular based jobs which means all that is pointless. The Cell was originally design to be a general purpose cpu where it did everything however sony realize when testing that the Cell wasn't enough to achieve what was needed for performance and graphically. So they added the RSX to be the primary GPU, and because they spent so much on the Cell they weren't going to scrap the whole thing which is why dev's like naughty dog were able to take the time to create coding which used the unused SPE's to supplement the RSX.

Now if and I mean "if" the next xbox will have an IBM 16 core cpu it will not be the same as the Cell was. They will be 16 normal cores not a single core with multi co processors that are meant for gpu workloads. But chances are that MS and AMD are using an APU design because of the trustworthy reports made since 2010 onward have been about them.

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Uh.. the 360 has a better GPU than the PS3... so I fail to follow your logic.

Phazevariance

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

GPU > CPU. Refer to PS3 for example.

Phazevariance

Uh.. the 360 has a better GPU than the PS3... so I fail to follow your logic.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Well, the damage control for 360 getting the bets looking version of Witcher 2 was expected, keep up the good work

loosingENDS

You should really visit specsavers think you could be doin with an eye test matey.

Well, tell that Digital Foundry that said Witcher 2 has better lighting on 360, why bother with me ?

The 720 will be a very cheaply made machine, its focus will be on Kinect not core gaming.

http://asia.cnet.com/xbox-720-to-ship-with-insanely-powerful-cpu-62214281.htm

Wow, 720 is looking be so advanced. I am glad Microsoft isn't going casual like all the biased cows would lead you to believe.

CAnnot wait for e3

reach3

Still sticking with it will have an 8 core CPU with hyperthreading, to which some bozo is claiming means it has 16 cores.