Xbox One Developer Concedes That PS4 Is More Powerful

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#51 clyde46
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this thread is as bad as the zimmerman verdict

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You mad bro?
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#52 Far_RockNYC
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another Davekeeh thread :lol:

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#53 XBOunity
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another Davekeeh thread :lol:

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:roll:  yeah agreed :lol:

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#54 XBOunity
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this thread is as bad as the zimmerman verdict

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lol

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#55 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

Yeah... gamers never care about hardware performance, you're totally right. :roll: idiot

MrGeezer

I'm not wrong. People in the real world don't care about that stuff as much as you'd think. 

They don't care a lot, but they still care. If console gamers didn't care, then the PS4 and X1 wouldn't be selling so well. Early buyers aren't buying for the games, they're buying for the novelty of having a more powerful console. I'm sure they'll be some good games out at launch, but what are people talking about? Killzone? Titanfall? I'm sure that stuff will be good, but they aren't exactly system sellers.

You are correct and because launch games sell like complete and utter shit, no developer is going to burn their good games that they spent a fortune on, selling to a few million early adopters. Most launch 360 games didnt even sell a million copies and the best selling game (COD2), didnt even sell two million total.
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#56 ReadingRainbow4
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I think everyone knew the ps4 was already the stronger piece of tech.

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#57 shinko28
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old and no one in the real world cares

seanmcloughlin

Really?? I guess 114k people who voted for the ps4, don't really care.  If that was the case, then the xb1 would have a higher vote count then the 33k 

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#58 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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How is this news? Denying PS4 is more powerful than Xbox One is like denying water is a liquid (at SATP conditions).

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#59 ReadingRainbow4
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How is this news? Denying PS4 is more powerful than Xbox One is like denying water is a liquid (at SATP conditions).

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Lemming response:

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#60 legalize82
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1.1 tflops loose
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#61 XBOunity
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if this was a multiplat, cows would say killer instinct looks like this on ps4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQjD1XcdYc&feature=player_embedded

 

and XB1 would look like this.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-SuxuIgAAU

 

the difference in power

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#62 XBOunity
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that GDDDR5 >>>>>>> X1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Renxufu6wsc

dat downgrade on x1

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#63 tdkmillsy
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People will see the lower price for the ps4 and choose that. The superior specs will be a bonus that only strengthens the appeal. If we want to talk about irrelevant factors, look at kinect and the entertainment features associated with the xb1. I doubt the mainstream will care about that very much.GunSmith1_basic
Price can and will change over the years but yes it will impact peoples decisions especially over Christmas time. They only need to drop it a bit or include a full game to compete price wise. Mainstream won't know what specs are they will just see the games and features and as they will look good on both consoles (difference being slightly less resolution or fps) it will come down to what they like best. However if Microsoft do pull off the extra features like family sharing, cloud, smartglass, Windows 8 apps, Kinect, Skype and TV integration it could sway the mainstream. It will come down to who advertises best and shows off what they have best and while Microsoft haven't done so well up until now I think they have time to pull it back.
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#64 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Specifications show superiority

As part of a question and answer session on Reddit, an Xbox One developer has admitted that the PlayStation 4 is more powerful than Microsofts machine. Despite this, the operating system engineer noted that the size of the gulf in performance is still up for debate, and that the games on the Redmond-based companys console look excellent regardless.

The facts are on paper, the PS4 has better specs, and the most that you can debate is by how much, said the refreshingly candid employee. What I can tell you is that I have played Forza Motorsport 5, Killer Instinct, and Ryse on the Xbox One, and they look as good as the games that I play on a high-end PC. Ryse reminded me of Darksiders II.

Earlier in the year, Digital Foundry declared that the PS4 is the more powerful of the two machines, too. However, despite plenty of confidence on Sonys part, its not yet clear what practical advantages these hardware enhancements will provide. Well probably have to wait until both systems are readily available before we're able to decipher any noticeable differences.

Source: http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/07/xbox_one_developer_concedes_that_ps4_is_more_powerful

Thoughts?

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Massive FAIL thread as everyone has known for months now that as far as technical specs go, the XBOX ONE isn't on even ground with the PS4. That being said it will be up to the devs as to whether the apparent advantage the PS4 has will be realized! The bottom line is that third party games will show minimal if any differences between the two consoles. There will be first party games on each console that will exploit that consoles strengths and they will look amazing! I wish that the Sony fanboys would just accept the truth that the potential gap between the two systems isn't going to be XBOX 360 or PS3>>> PS2. It is going to be just like it was last gen. Besides all of that the AVERAGE gamer or Mom and Dad doesn't give two rips about specs. They know that little Billy wants to play the new Halo or the new UNCHARTED and that is the system they will get!!
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#65 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Pretty much every developer has noted that the gap is marginal at best. ShoulderOfOrion
50% stronger GPU is not marginal, it's phenomenal.

That 50% figure comes from Sony and its lapdogs.

1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math.

In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap.
1) Running
: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.


It's:
1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.

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#66 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

old and no one in the real world cares

Davekeeh


In all honesty, most people do care.

I care about the part where he said the Sony rep told the Microsoft team that Microsoft won the games. That is the most important part of the whole article.
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#67 Heil68
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bu bu bu TEH CLOUDZ1!!1!! :cry: :lol:
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bu bu bu TEH CLOUDZ1!!1!! :cry: :lol: Heil68
So stupid.
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#69 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] 50% stronger GPU is not marginal, it's phenomenal.

That 50% figure comes from Sony and its lapdogs.

1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math. In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap. It's: 1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.

Wont stop me from enjoying Halo 5, Titanfall, Quantum Break, DR3, Forza 5, Ryse, Watchdogs, RARE titles, MGS 5, Dying Light, Outlast, The Evil Within and every other multiplat out there. What are you guys going to get all wet because a tree sways a little more realistically or that maybe a wave has a little better roll to it? C'mon, you Sony fanbots are really making yourselves look childish and ignorant.
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#70 stereointegrity
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i think its safe to say this guy is getting fired
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#71 Capitan_Kid
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it is pretty self evident to me that if people really cared about power most everyone would be pc gamers.

console power is little more than shyt for nerds like us to mentally masturbate to.

 

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Dat damage control. Poor, stupid lemming :(
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] That 50% figure comes from Sony and its lapdogs.ShoTTyMcNaDeS
1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math. In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap. It's: 1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.

Wont stop me from enjoying Halo 5, Titanfall, Quantum Break, DR3, Forza 5, Ryse, Watchdogs, RARE titles, MGS 5, Dying Light, Outlast, The Evil Within and every other multiplat out there. What are you guys going to get all wet because a tree sways a little more realistically or that maybe a wave has a little better roll to it? C'mon, you Sony fanbots are really making yourselves look childish and ignorant.

you didnt say killer instinct... im dissapointed

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#73 Douevenlift_bro
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we already know Xbox One is quite weak with its measle 1.1 teraflop GPU 

xboxiphoneps3

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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] 1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math. In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap. It's: 1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.XBOunity

Wont stop me from enjoying Halo 5, Titanfall, Quantum Break, DR3, Forza 5, Ryse, Watchdogs, RARE titles, MGS 5, Dying Light, Outlast, The Evil Within and every other multiplat out there. What are you guys going to get all wet because a tree sways a little more realistically or that maybe a wave has a little better roll to it? C'mon, you Sony fanbots are really making yourselves look childish and ignorant.

you didnt say killer instinct... im dissapointed

Sorry, yes Killer Instinct as well!
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#75 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]bu bu bu TEH CLOUDZ1!!1!! :cry: :lol: timbers_WSU
So stupid.

Yeah, hyping the cloud and thinking it will help with graphics. FPS and resolution is just stupid. I'm shocked we actually agree on something. .
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#76 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] 50% stronger GPU is not marginal, it's phenomenal.DrTrafalgarLaw

That 50% figure comes from Sony and its lapdogs.

1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math.

In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap.
1) Running
: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.


It's:
1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.

You are comparing what is getting used on the X1 to what is the full specs on the PS4. How much is Sony using for what processes? Does anyone know? Until it is known you are only comparing rumors.
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#77 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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So if the PS4 is so much more powerful than the X1, why is it that their launch games look horribly average in comparison to the X1's offerings? Seriously, Drive Club looks like something from 360 or PS3 circa 2008 and KZSF just isn't blowing anyone away except for Sony lapdogs?
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#78 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Wont stop me from enjoying Halo 5, Titanfall, Quantum Break, DR3, Forza 5, Ryse, Watchdogs, RARE titles, MGS 5, Dying Light, Outlast, The Evil Within and every other multiplat out there. What are you guys going to get all wet because a tree sways a little more realistically or that maybe a wave has a little better roll to it? C'mon, you Sony fanbots are really making yourselves look childish and ignorant.ShoTTyMcNaDeS

you didnt say killer instinct... im dissapointed

Sorry, yes Killer Instinct as well!

haha i dont think cows can say that they are forgetting about some of their exclusives cause they have so many like here

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So if the PS4 is so much more powerful than the X1, why is it that their launch games look horribly average in comparison to the X1's offerings? Seriously, Drive Club looks like something from 360 or PS3 circa 2008 and KZSF just isn't blowing anyone away except for Sony lapdogs? ShoTTyMcNaDeS
What X1 offering is this that looks so great? Don't say for Forza, cause it doesn't, nor does Titanfall.
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#80 GravityX
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What about the 5 billion transistors? What about Direct X11.2? What about Direct3D Tiled Resources? Does none of this matter?

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] That 50% figure comes from Sony and its lapdogs.FoxbatAlpha

1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.23 TFLOPs. Do the math.

In reality the Xflop One only has access to 90% of the GPU when in-game, 10% of GPU resources are reserved for switching on the fly and picture-in-picture crap.
1) Running
: The game is loaded in memory and is fully running. The game has full access to the reserved system resources, which are six CPU cores, 90 percent of GPU processing power, and 5 GB of memory. The game is rendering full-screen and the user can interact with it.


It's:
1.82 TFLOPs vs. 1.1 TFLOPs. The GPU of the PS4 is 65% stronger. Deal with it chumps.

You are comparing what is getting used on the X1 to what is the full specs on the PS4. How much is Sony using for what processes? Does anyone know? Until it is known you are only comparing rumors.

Mark Cerny himself said they use a seperate chip to offload any strain on GPU, in order to have the GPU available for a full 100% full power all the time. Mark also said they do something similar with the CPU having both north- and south bridges to relieve any background processing strain. They make sure no non-game related process is hogging system resourcing to prevent games like Dead rising running like shit because of all the NFL bullshit hogging system resources and gimping games to run at 20 frames per second (as noted by Vinny Caravella).

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#82 o0squishy0o
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All this talk of terraflops is great when you consider what it relates to in terms of PC hardware. Its kinda embarrasing that people are getting all defensive and offensive over something that is not impressive at all. Infact its so far behind what is available its a pointless argument.

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lol reddit n xboxonedev that apparently codes apps and not games..why would anyone risk their jobs knowing major potato post there and can get his ass fired
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Wow take it you could not be bothered to post in the topic made yesterday!?
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What about the 5 billion transistors? What about Direct X11.2? What about Direct3D Tiled Resources? Does none of this matter?

GravityX
Love that sig!!!! TITANFALL!!!!!!! That game take a big huge 2000 LB. sasquatch S#@T on KZSF!!!!
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Aside from SW, not many people care. All they want to know is what console will have the best version of the new COD and that is the X1. clyde46
Nah Cod is a last gen game don't know what will replace it as the "it game" but doubt that COD will continue to dominate like it has in the past its time will come to an end soon
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#87 ShaineTheNerd
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Nice post. Full of helpful links and sources. Take note everyone else.

But my thoughts. Claiming the PS4 is NOT the superior console is nothing short of stupid. On paper, off paper, Cloud aside (if that's an arguing factor for you), the PS4 is the raw superior. That's without a doubt saying. If "teh Cloudz" is truly the PS4's downfall, it's advantages have yet been displayed really in any way but hypotheticals. It all sounds neat, but its possibilities haven't been shown. I do like the "480k action per second" the Cloud can (supposedly) handle without even touching the Xbox One's hardware, but I haven't seen that demonstrated yet. It's all a story thus far.

Even if the Cloud is some god-given savior for Microsoft, PS4 is the stronger console. But how significant that power advantage is will have be seen at a later date. As this generation ages, I'm sure the PS4 developers (looking at you, Naughty Dog) will make their games stand out from the competition, but judging it all off of the first few forays will be too soon. Or not, we'll see. Killzone does look very pretty.

But that's all. Saw a well-executed post and had to respond. Thanks for reading. Back to trolling.

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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"]Yes the PS4 is more powerfull. Yes the X1 is more sophisticated. The differences should be minimal at best. Chutebox
How is the X1 more sophisticated?

It comes with a tiny top hat.
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#89 NFJSupreme
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ok there you have it. confirmation from MS. Can we now stop making these threads?
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#90 Indicud
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

old and no one in the real world cares

clyde46


In all honesty, most people do care.

Aside from SW, not many people care. All they want to know is what console will have the best version of the new COD and that is the X1.

And the most ignorant post of the day goes to you.

Call of Duty sales generate on average 20 million sales between the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. There are 150 million+ consoles combined out there.

Shouldn't have to spell it out any further.

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#91 XboxStache
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[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"]

we already know Xbox One is quite weak with its measle 1.1 teraflop GPU

Davekeeh


Most people did, only a few people still haven't accepted the truth, I guess they will have to now.
From this day on all they can do is put their faith in the cloud

Not according to E3.
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#92 XboxStache
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[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

you didnt say killer instinct... im dissapointed

XBOunity

Sorry, yes Killer Instinct as well!

haha i dont think cows can say that they are forgetting about some of their exclusives cause they have so many like here

PSBore exclusives looked like ass. Knack looked like a regular PS3 game. (R&C reskinned) And I certainly don't know what anyone sees in The Order 1886. Maybe the footage was messed up because that looked current gen as well. CCon is coming up...Moar GodBox exclusives!!!
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#94 legalize82
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In before Tessellation damage control..

 

oppss... To late...:lol:

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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]Sorry, yes Killer Instinct as well!XboxStache

haha i dont think cows can say that they are forgetting about some of their exclusives cause they have so many like here

PSBore exclusives looked like ass. Knack looked like a regular PS3 game. (R&C reskinned) And I certainly don't know what anyone sees in The Order 1886. Maybe the footage was messed up because that looked current gen as well. CCon is coming up...Moar GodBox exclusives!!!

360 launch games looked like ass too and games like Chaos Theory and The Liandri Conflict blew them away. Still obsessing over irrelevant launch games I see. This must be you kids first launch.
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#96 CJ_ofCamelot
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Seems like the lemmings are still crying about hardware not being important since the 360s inferior RROD box. It's important to hermits, to cows, heck even the sheep are crying about it.
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#97 BlackShirt20
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99% know they have more powerful hardware.

99% also means nothing.

99% know the Xbox One is a better quality system

99% also know the Xbox One uses superior technology

100% know Xbox One is the superior console.

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#98 metal_zombie
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99% know they have more powerful hardware.

99% also means nothing.

99% know the Xbox One is a better quality system

99% also know the Xbox One uses superior technology

100% know Xbox One is the superior console.

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#99 Douevenlift_bro
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PS4 is 63% more powerful than the Xbone Television box

These are facts. Let the games begin *eats popcorn*

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99% know they have more powerful hardware.

99% also means nothing.

99% know the Xbox One is a better quality system

99% also know the Xbox One uses superior technology

100% know Xbox One is the superior console.

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Just look at the butthurt.