Xbox one Games have access to: 6 CPU Cores, 5Gb RAM, 90% GPU power

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#1 Cali3350
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

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and dat 1.1tflops equals to what kind of gpu in our day and age? Something like the 6870 or higher? Anyways, a weak system is an insta gtfo for me.
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Well, its main purpose is to watch TV. Can't say I'm surprised.
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and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball game
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Not believing anything kotaku says.I know the next xbox is weaker than the PS4 anyway.

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and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball gamemariokart64fan

No one knows how powerful the WiiU is.

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Well, its main purpose is to watch TV. Can't say I'm surprised. princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Well, its main purpose is to watch TV. Can't say I'm surprised. charizard1605

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#9 I_can_haz
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I saw this coming from a mile away.

 

 

Lems: ":cry: bu....bu..but teh dual GPUs and 12GB GDDR5 RAM. M$ can affordz it!1"

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and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball gamemariokart64fan
my ipad is 10 times more powerful than a wiikU. cable box will crush the little WiiU because wiiu is what we had in 05 and last time i checked cable box/ps4 aren't being released to compete against last gen systems.

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I plan on buying a wii U when the price drops and it gets some games I am interested in so the power of the console isn't even a great concern when it comes to  me deciding to buy the x1

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and dat 1.1tflops equals to what kind of gpu in our day and age? Something like the 6870 or higher? Anyways, a weak system is an insta gtfo for me.silversix_
More like a radeon 5750
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball gamesuper600

No one knows how powerful the WiiU is.

You and your "no one knows how powerful the wiiu is". Yes, every sane person knows how it is, its wiik. But i bet you need like 3 years to be proven that, by Nintendo's first party never even approaching Uc3/KZ3, forget about surpassing

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]and dat 1.1tflops equals to what kind of gpu in our day and age? Something like the 6870 or higher? Anyways, a weak system is an insta gtfo for me.DrTrafalgarLaw
More like a radeon 5750

are you serious?

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#15 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Lems must be devastated knowing that the PS4 has much better graphics.
This gen they showed everybody how obsessed they were with comparing multiplatform games, claiming victory when the differences were only minor.

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poor lems.  :(

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="silversix_"]and dat 1.1tflops equals to what kind of gpu in our day and age? Something like the 6870 or higher? Anyways, a weak system is an insta gtfo for me.silversix_

More like a radeon 5750

are you serious?

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.
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I wonder how the resources are allocated on the PS4.

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shoulda of stuck with xbox 720 since thats the resolution xbone will get :lol:

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and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crap
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] More like a radeon 5750DrTrafalgarLaw

are you serious?

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

Shit, it's barely more powerful than my old shitty DELL laptop from 2009.
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] More like a radeon 5750DrTrafalgarLaw

are you serious?

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

then at least its powerful enough to play Farmville while chatting on Skype :lol:


I swear if they alk about POWER with dat :lol: 5750 during E3 i will shit my pants.


Cable Box=5750

PS4=~7870

lol almost no difference, noooot.

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Hermits and their obsession with power. :lol: Wait, some will come in and say power doesn't matter after mocking consoles for not having enough!TheWalkingGhost
The issue is the Cable Box One is weaker than the PS4. Not sure what hermits have to do with anything, unless you equate discussion of specs to nerdy talk among hermits.
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Hermits and their obsession with power. :lol: Wait, some will come in and say power doesn't matter after mocking consoles for not having enough!TheWalkingGhost
:| What does this thread have to do with Hermits brah?
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Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] More like a radeon 5750DrTrafalgarLaw

are you serious?

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

I would like a source to that.

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#28 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="silversix_"]are you serious?

silversix_

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

then at least its powerful enough to play Farmville while chatting on Skype :lol:

Not yet, according to devs they are waiting for updates to fully access that 1.1 TFlops. I'm thinking they still have overheating issues but they do have full copper cooling this time around.
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#30 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="silversix_"]are you serious?

mitu123

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

I would like a source to that.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-2.html http://techreport.com/review/17747/amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750-graphics-cards/5 The memory bandwidth checks out and the TFlops. But you should talk to ronvalencia about this, not me.
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.DrTrafalgarLaw

then at least its powerful enough to play Farmville while chatting on Skype :lol:

Not yet, according to devs they are waiting for updates to fully access that 1.1 TFlops. I'm thinking they still have overheating issues but they do have full copper cooling this time around.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.

To be fair to Microsoft it actually looks like Sony is only giving games 6 cores too. Guerrilla posted a debug screenshot showing only 6 cores being loaded. No official confirmation beyond that though.
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I wonder how the resources are allocated on the PS4.

NFJSupreme

 

Except for 1GB of ram the rest is 100% for games. PS4 uses a couple of dedicated hardware for the sharing and sht. Very good from Cerny.  :cool:

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.DrTrafalgarLaw

I would like a source to that.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-2.html http://techreport.com/review/17747/amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750-graphics-cards/5 The memory bandwidth checks out and the TFlops. But you should talk to ronvalencia about this, not me.

That's just awful.:|

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IIRC, PS4 will only be able to use about 6.5Gb of its ram for games. This is expected with these bloatware features on the new consoles

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="mitu123"]I would like a source to that.

mitu123

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-2.html http://techreport.com/review/17747/amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750-graphics-cards/5 The memory bandwidth checks out and the TFlops. But you should talk to ronvalencia about this, not me.

That's just awful.:|

They're betting the house, the horse and the farm on having Cloud Computing that offloads CPU/GPU intensive tasks to those 300k servers. Can't say I blaim them with 1.1 TFlops.
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and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapJetB1ackNewYear
No it wont.. the architecture on the ps4 and xbox are very similar.. the ps4 is just (as this and many other threads show) more powerful. At this point... lems want the ONE to pull down the PS4.... wow.
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="mitu123"]I would like a source to that.

mitu123

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-2.html http://techreport.com/review/17747/amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750-graphics-cards/5 The memory bandwidth checks out and the TFlops. But you should talk to ronvalencia about this, not me.

That's just awful.:|

and people were thinking that Forza 5 video was gameplay :lol: . I cannot wait for all the ownage in two weeks this e3, will be funny

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IIRC, PS4 will only be able to use about 6.5Gb of its ram for games. This is expected with these bloatware features on the new consoles

X_CAPCOM_X
Last rumoured was 512MB, so even if we go up to 1GB that's 7GB free for games, even 6.5GB for games is still quite a bit more than 5GB.
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.

To be fair to Microsoft it actually looks like Sony is only giving games 6 cores too. Guerrilla posted a debug screenshot showing only 6 cores being loaded. No official confirmation beyond that though.

Wat? Cerny said that OS tasks can be done with the main system off using the secondary processor. Or was I misinterpreting things. If true that would suck. Bloatware. Bloatware everywhere.
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[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapInfinite_Access
No it wont.. the architecture on the ps4 and xbox are very similar.. the ps4 is just (as this and many other threads show) more powerful. At this point... lems want the ONE to pull down the PS4.... wow.

Indeed, and PS4 architecture is actually better and easier to develop for.

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Hermits and their obsession with power. :lol: Wait, some will come in and say power doesn't matter after mocking consoles for not having enough!princeofshapeir
The issue is the Cable Box One is weaker than the PS4. Not sure what hermits have to do with anything, unless you equate discussion of specs to nerdy talk among hermits.

 

But,, but,,,, but MS says you can take extra hardware from the cloud so the system will never get outdated.

 

LOL I will beleive that when I see it, maybe 10 years from now that will work out.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Well, its main purpose is to watch TV. Can't say I'm surprised. heeweesRus

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.

To be fair to Microsoft it actually looks like Sony is only giving games 6 cores too. Guerrilla posted a debug screenshot showing only 6 cores being loaded. No official confirmation beyond that though.

Wat? Cerny said that OS tasks can be done with the main system off using the secondary processor. Or was I misinterpreting things. If true that would suck. Bloatware. Bloatware everywhere.

We saw a Killzone tech video which seemed to be using only 6 cores. Could be that one is reserved for security or the OS, I don't know what else.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5770,2446-2.html http://techreport.com/review/17747/amd-radeon-hd-5770-and-5750-graphics-cards/5 The memory bandwidth checks out and the TFlops. But you should talk to ronvalencia about this, not me.silversix_

That's just awful.:|

and people were thinking that Forza 5 video was gameplay :lol: . I cannot wait for all the ownage in two weeks this e3, will be funny

E3 will be games either full of bullshots or games running on PC hardware fooling many.

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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapSaltyMeatballs

No it wont.. the architecture on the ps4 and xbox are very similar.. the ps4 is just (as this and many other threads show) more powerful. At this point... lems want the ONE to pull down the PS4.... wow.

Indeed, and PS4 architecture is actually better and easier to develop for.

 

That GDDR5 is freakin SEXY. Yep so far devs love the PS4 hardware. I like it when devs say good things than I know there will be great games.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.

To be fair to Microsoft it actually looks like Sony is only giving games 6 cores too. Guerrilla posted a debug screenshot showing only 6 cores being loaded. No official confirmation beyond that though.

Wat? Cerny said that OS tasks can be done with the main system off using the secondary processor. Or was I misinterpreting things. If true that would suck. Bloatware. Bloatware everywhere.

He did, they have seperate chips for video-capture and the operating system. Maybe they need to unlock the last two through software?
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and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapJetB1ackNewYear
Wat? Where do you even get this from. Their architecture is similar.
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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapSaltyMeatballs

No it wont.. the architecture on the ps4 and xbox are very similar.. the ps4 is just (as this and many other threads show) more powerful. At this point... lems want the ONE to pull down the PS4.... wow.

Indeed, and PS4 architecture is actually better and easier to develop for.

Architecturally the XBONE will likely be harder as it has lower specs both in raw processing power and bandwidth (which could further hobble the XBONE), but much of it will come down to the tools that Sony and Microsoft provide to developers.

I don't think anyone has made a real comparison there that I've seen at least, but the PS4 has received good reviews from developers for being easy to develop with. It certainly won't be anywhere near hard enough to erase the PS4's inherent advantages.

Even with lazy cross-platform efforts the PS4 should run at a higher/more stable framerate, higher resolution, or be able to push more effects (physics, AA, etc.)