Xbox one Games have access to: 6 CPU Cores, 5Gb RAM, 90% GPU power

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#51 Mrmedia01
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[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapbleehum
Wat? Where do you even get this from. Their architecture is similar.

I know lol, Architecture for both is simular and more like a PC, both will be easier to Optimize for, but PS4 will get the extra bump up when possible because of that 8GB GDDR5 and the better GPU.

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[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]and yet the games will look the same like before, considering once again its easier to design on the xbox. its going to be the same thing as the ps3 vs 360 crapMrmedia01

Wat? Where do you even get this from. Their architecture is similar.

I know lol, Architecture for both is simular and more like a PC, both will be easier to Optimize for, but PS4 will get the extra bump up when possible because of that 8GB GDDR5 and the better GPU.

It's not just the better RAM, the small details of the architecture itself is better designed to get the most out of it, unfortunately I am not qualified to go into too many details.
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#53 PSP107
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Well, its main purpose is to watch TV. Can't say I'm surprised. heeweesRus


i am going to buy a xbox one but its a cable box - The Rock Drivingqm.gif

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#54 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Thus, an insider...OUCH

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#55 glez13
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So basically it should be around a gimped 7770(1.28TFLOPS).

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#56 DrTrafalgarLaw
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So basically it should be a gimped 7770(1.28TFLOPS).

glez13
No, HD7770 would actually have been great. More like beefed up radeon 5750.
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#57 KazFromFuture
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Thus, an insider...OUCH

DrTrafalgarLaw
I guess Microsoft is more interested in their Operating System than the games that are playable on their platform. I wouldn't be surprised if Kinect took another 2GB's of that.
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#58 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

So basically it should be a gimped 7770(1.28TFLOPS).

DrTrafalgarLaw

No, HD7770 would actually have been great. More like beefed up radeon 5750.

7000 series comparison makes more sense since it's supposed to be a GCN.

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pc/ps4/wiiu is the way to go!~

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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="glez13"]

So basically it should be a gimped 7770(1.28TFLOPS).

glez13

No, HD7770 would actually have been great. More like beefed up radeon 5750.

7000 series comparison makes more sense since it's supposed to be a GCN.

Yep, 7000 series gets closer to its theoretical performance than the 5000/6000 series GPUs did.

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#61 Tessellation
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nothing new,the xbox 360 also had GPU reservation and was around 10% too this won't cause developers any problems.
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#62 shawn30
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Ok, so we know thias for sure? Good! Now show me the games, lol. I'm just sick and tired of numbers and graphs and spreadsheets and twitter account postings, lol. If the PS4 is more powerful than the XBox One, ok :) Now show me the damn games! I just don't care about the specs. I want Zelda on the Wii-U and my Halo 5.

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#63 Masculus
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My old 6850 has 1.5 tflops if I can recall. Now 1.1, lol... That's like a 2009 mid to high end videocard.

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nothing new,the xbox 360 also had GPU reservation and was around 10% too this won't cause developers any problems.Tessellation
Link? I'm not 100% sure I remember correctly, but I remember the reservation being solely 5% of two cores of the processor. PS3 OS was powered by a single SPE with no load on GPU.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

Cali3350
Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?
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#66 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

ronvalencia

Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?


Digital Foundry uncovered this, I think you know what to do. :P

speed is not yet mentioned but the amount of shader came out of the tech devs mounth at the tech panel.

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#67 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

DrTrafalgarLaw
Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

 Digital Foundry uncovered this, I think you know what to do. :P

Either I'm blind or it doesn't say it on there. O.o Current rumors put both at 800MHz. No official confirmation yet.
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#68 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

 Digital Foundry uncovered this, I think you know what to do. :P

Either I'm blind or it doesn't say it on there. O.o Current rumors put both at 800MHz. No official confirmation yet.

That's what I'm saying also...?
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#69 ronvalencia
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and dat 1.1tflops equals to what kind of gpu in our day and age? Something like the 6870 or higher? Anyways, a weak system is an insta gtfo for me.silversix_
Between Radeon HD 7750 (819.2 GFLOPS) and 7770 (1280 GFLOPS).
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#70 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU. It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.

DrTrafalgarLaw

Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?


Digital Foundry uncovered this, I think you know what to do. :P

speed is not yet mentioned but the amount of shader came out of the tech devs mounth at the tech panel.

It doesn't factor in "Microsoft is claiming over 200 GB/s bandwidth for the memory subsystem" i.e. refer to http://semiaccurate.com/2013/05/22/microsoft-subtly-admits-losing-with-xbox-one/

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#71 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]nothing new,the xbox 360 also had GPU reservation and was around 10% too this won't cause developers any problems.hexashadow13
Link? I'm not 100% sure I remember correctly, but I remember the reservation being solely 5% of two cores of the processor. PS3 OS was powered by a single SPE with no load on GPU.

The xbox 360 GPU had reservation too,i read back in the day so i can't provide a link..but bkilian from B3D that worked for MS and Xbox project pointed that out too and he pointed out that PS4 will probably had 2 cores reserved too and some memory (check KZSF tech demo presentation there was 2 cores OFF from the working 8)

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#72 Heil68
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Im more concerned if it has access to sued games and rentals.
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#73 DrTrafalgarLaw
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Im more concerned if it has access to sued gamesHeil68
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#74 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

ronvalencia
Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

It will be 800MHz I can assure you that. 786 * 2 * 800 = 1257600MHz = 1.2TFLOPs.
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#75 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]

[QUOTE="bleehum"] Wat? Where do you even get this from. Their architecture is similar. SaltyMeatballs

I know lol, Architecture for both is simular and more like a PC, both will be easier to Optimize for, but PS4 will get the extra bump up when possible because of that 8GB GDDR5 and the better GPU.

It's not just the better RAM, the small details of the architecture itself is better designed to get the most out of it, unfortunately I am not qualified to go into too many details.

The architecture is the same.
CPU = x86
GPU = GCN 1.0 

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Man, you throw AA and SOPI into the mix with an AMD ACG overclocker, and you will be performing at 6600cc of AVPI with Testosterone Deeplink AF Processing.
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Man, you throw AA and SOPI into the mix with an AMD ACG overclocker, and you will be performing at 6600cc of AVPI with Testosterone Deeplink AF Processing.freedomfreak
*SVOGI *GCN CC? Testosterone? (Never heard of this shit) what?
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#78 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Man, you throw AA and SOPI into the mix with an AMD ACG overclocker, and you will be performing at 6600cc of AVPI with Testosterone Deeplink AF Processing.faizan_faizan
*SVOGI *GCN CC? Testosterone? (Never heard of this shit) what?

Well, it's new hardware and technology that is being implemented in the Xbox One. They all got their own fancy terms.
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#79 nyzma23
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what is wrong with this forum why they bashing other console if you dont wanna buy xbox that's fine and no need to bash over it and mock people that have it

geez does corporation pays you to trash in this forum ? it's kinda lame and kiddies i visited this forum cause i want to search info about next gen console and voila i found this crap all over

 

i know i should make a thread for it but i'm not lvl 10 so i write in this thread instead

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Man, you throw AA and SOPI into the mix with an AMD ACG overclocker, and you will be performing at 6600cc of AVPI with Testosterone Deeplink AF Processing.freedomfreak
*SVOGI *GCN CC? Testosterone? (Never heard of this shit) what?

Well, it's new hardware and technology that is being implemented in the Xbox One. They all got their own fancy terms.

Well I head the XBO is going to be powered by anti matter.
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#81 freedomfreak
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Well I head the XBO is going to be powered by anti matter.faizan_faizan
Now you're just being silly
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#82 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Well I head the XBO is going to be powered by anti matter.freedomfreak
Now you're just being silly

Yep.
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball gamesuper600

No one knows how powerful the WiiU is.

The fact that it cant run current gen games at 1080p gives us a very good idea about its power or lack thereof.
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#84 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564617


Turns out all the leaks were wrong - the Xbox One doesnt have a 1.25 TFLOPS GPU.  It only has a 1.1 TFLOPS GPU for games.  

faizan_faizan
Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

It will be 800MHz I can assure you that. 786 * 2 * 800 = 1257600MHz = 1.2TFLOPs.

AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.
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#85 Blazerdt47
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Why do I have a sudden urge to buy a Wii U after seeing the Xbox One?

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Who takes Kotaku seriously?

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#87 Tessellation
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Who takes Kotaku seriously?

lundy86_4

only when it contains content to bash x console,They're so ignorant that don't know the xbox 360 reserved 10% of its GPU too MS seems to be using GPU virtualization or remoteFX.

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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]and everyone said one would be ten times greater than wiiu lol only four times power wise but game wise a total new ball gamesuper600

No one knows how powerful the WiiU is.

Not that "no one knows" rather no one CARES.
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This is not only incorrect, but gaming information has yet to be fully implemented, so this is a made up guess. it makes even less sense when no one has the hardware to play with as of now. I find it very odd how people are quick to believe everything on the internet without thinking and spread it around like fire in a forest.
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

It will be 800MHz I can assure you that. 786 * 2 * 800 = 1257600MHz = 1.2TFLOPs.

AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] It will be 800MHz I can assure you that. 786 * 2 * 800 = 1257600MHz = 1.2TFLOPs.

AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.

MS didn't say anything about their flops or GPU speed if i recall correctly.. they just said * 786 floating points operations per cycle*
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.

MS didn't say anything about their flops or GPU speed if i recall correctly.. they just said * 786 floating points operations per cycle*

Really? Didn't know about that.
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#93 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.

MS didn't say anything about their flops or GPU speed if i recall correctly.. they just said * 786 floating points operations per cycle*

Also it's not 786 floating point operations per cycle, it's just ALUs or Threads or Stream Processors.
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#94 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.

MS didn't say anything about their flops or GPU speed if i recall correctly.. they just said * 786 floating points operations per cycle*

Really? Didn't know about that.

even when they announced the specs the GPU wasn't even listed..just CPU and RAM.
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It's not intended to play games anyway.

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#96 Magescrew
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"] More like a radeon 5750DrTrafalgarLaw

are you serious?

Yes, the rumours were indeed 6850/70 but they they need that GPU for something else too. Think of it as a slightly updated radeon 5750.

Someone's probably addressed your mistake already, but the 5750 is much weaker than the X1's GPU. My 7750 is only around .75 Tflops...
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#97 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]Holy crap. I saw the 5GB coming due to rumors, but they're seriously spending two cores and two threads on the OS? On an already crappy CPU? And even further limiting the GPU? I think MS missed the memo on balanced console design. Having a weak CPU means you can offset stuff to the CPU, but that doesn't work if the GPU is weak and limited too. >_> For comparison, Sony has not confirmed how much RAM the OS will need, though it is rumored at 1GB. They have confirmed that there is a separate processor for the OS and that it's operations will put no load on the CPU/GPU.

To be fair to Microsoft it actually looks like Sony is only giving games 6 cores too. Guerrilla posted a debug screenshot showing only 6 cores being loaded. No official confirmation beyond that though.

Na it was do to using unfinish hardware.
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#98 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

MS stated themselves that the XBOX One GPU is going have 1.2TFLOPs of compute power. If it's 1GHz then: 786 ALUs * 2 floating point operations per cycle * 1GHz = 1572GFLOPs = 1.5TFLOPs.

MS didn't say anything about their flops or GPU speed if i recall correctly.. they just said * 786 floating points operations per cycle*

It means 768sp which mean 12 cu which is why people are saying is 1.2 tf. 12 X 64 =768 remember is gcn based.
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#99 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Has MS reveal the clock speed for the GPU?

It will be 800MHz I can assure you that. 786 * 2 * 800 = 1257600MHz = 1.2TFLOPs.

AMD Radeon HD 7790 "Bonaire XT" has pretty good yields at 1Ghz i.e. the lack of "Bonaire Pro" yields in the market place.

Is not about the girls alone is about heat and the choices ms make,i told you that and you did no wanted to believe me remember?
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#100 dobzilian
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For lawlz sake. Why dont you guys chuck in the WiiU specs and have a good old comparison of all three. Well 2.5 as the WiiU is half the Console the One will be.