Xbox one Games have access to: 6 CPU Cores, 5Gb RAM, 90% GPU power

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i read neogaf everyday, i also read when they banned sensji  because he said he heard nothing of a downclock and thurway said there was and neogaf mods favor thurway.   cboat was wrong on the family share time demos, prince of persia LOL, and other things.   He has some hooks, but he isnt always right, and lately he has had some failed predictions.   He was also wrong about the DR3 Reveal.     the fact that you are linking that forum is laughable, its not a link, you are truly a dope.  

XBOunity

 

 

Senji was a die hard xbox fan who acted out of order and he was banned and then he came back.

 

Thuway was banend for missing it should tell you something about Cboat credibility.

 

 

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#252 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

 

i read neogaf everyday, i also read when they banned sensji  because he said he heard nothing of a downclock and thurway said there was and neogaf mods favor thurway.   cboat was wrong on the family share time demos, prince of persia LOL, and other things.   He has some hooks, but he isnt always right, and lately he has had some failed predictions.   He was also wrong about the DR3 Reveal.     the fact that you are linking that forum is laughable, its not a link, you are truly a dope.  

tormentos

 

 

Senji was a die hard xbox fan who acted out of order and he was banned and then he came back.

 

Thuway was banend for missing it should tell you something about Cboat credibility.

 

 

well they took thurway side for sure, so they do take sides,  some of the bannings are disturbing over there,   senji should of never been banned, i lost all respect for that site since then, and yes what about all the cboat misses?   PRINCE OF PERSIA?   hahahaha ok and then he confused it for Halo reveal,   STFU to cboat

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#253 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

 

i read neogaf everyday, i also read when they banned sensji  because he said he heard nothing of a downclock and thurway said there was and neogaf mods favor thurway.   cboat was wrong on the family share time demos, prince of persia LOL, and other things.   He has some hooks, but he isnt always right, and lately he has had some failed predictions.   He was also wrong about the DR3 Reveal.     the fact that you are linking that forum is laughable, its not a link, you are truly a dope.  

tormentos

 

 

Senji was a die hard xbox fan who acted out of order and he was banned and then he came back.

 

Thuway was banend for missing it should tell you something about Cboat credibility.

 

 

wonder why he was banned, thanks for making my point.

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#254 Shensolidus
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Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

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#255 Shensolidus
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

 

i read neogaf everyday, i also read when they banned sensji  because he said he heard nothing of a downclock and thurway said there was and neogaf mods favor thurway.   cboat was wrong on the family share time demos, prince of persia LOL, and other things.   He has some hooks, but he isnt always right, and lately he has had some failed predictions.   He was also wrong about the DR3 Reveal.     the fact that you are linking that forum is laughable, its not a link, you are truly a dope.  

XBOunity

 

 

Senji was a die hard xbox fan who acted out of order and he was banned and then he came back.

 

Thuway was banend for missing it should tell you something about Cboat credibility.

 

 

wonder why he was banned, thanks for making my point.

Actually, Senji was banned for implying he had insider knowledge without ever giving any credential or proof to a moderator. On top of that, it was known that grassroots media was running rampant among message boards after the reveal and E3. They gave him a temp ban so he'd cool off before he said something stupid. Thats okay.
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#256 tormentos
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neogaf seems a little anti microsoft and pro sony if you ask me, i read it everyday,    you cannot link neogaf,   DF is >>>>>>> neogaf :lol: as a link brah.   

XBOunity

 

Fun fact neogaf leaked more than DF...:lol:

Hell on Killzone SF demo they identify 5 cores and a orchestrator when it was in fact 6 cores,core 0,core 1,core 2, and so on it was confirmed on Neogaf,and they were the ones who talked about the 6 cores before as well,so yeah the 6 core remark came from DF based on Killzone SF demo which was done on Unfinish hardware...:lol:

 

Interestingly, Guerrilla's presentation explicitly refers to "every" core being used, but the screenshots of the profiling tools - developed by the team itself owing to the work-in-progress nature of Sony's own analysis software - only seems to be explicitly identifying five worker threads. As of right now, we have no real idea of how much CPU time the PS4's new operating system sucks up and how much is left to game developers, and we understand that the system reservation is up in the air. However, the profiling tool shows that in the here and now there are indeed five workers threads, plus the "orchestrator" and each of them is locked to a single core. The inference we can draw right now is that while OS reservation hasn't been locked down, developers have access to at least six of the eight cores of the PS4's CPU.


CPU Load

  • 60 AI characters
  • 940 entities, 300 active
  • 8200 physics objects (1500 key-framed, 6700 static)
  • 500 particle systems
  • 120 sound voices
  • 110 ray casts
  • 1000 jobs per frame




http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-killzone-shadow-fall


It was DF who talked about the 6 core before it wasn't the developer,and it was based on unfinish hardware,look at the CPU task 120 sound voices on the PS4 hardware sound voices are done on the sound chip the PS4 has,not on the CPU this was already make clear by sony,so yeah everything was based on Killzone SF demo.


:lol:


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#257 XBOunity
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Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

Shensolidus

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

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#258 tormentos
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

 

Senji was a die hard xbox fan who acted out of order and he was banned and then he came back.

 

Thuway was banend for missing it should tell you something about Cboat credibility.

 

 

Shensolidus

wonder why he was banned, thanks for making my point.

Actually, Senji was banned for implying he had insider knowledge without ever giving any credential or proof to a moderator. On top of that, it was known that grassroots media was running rampant among message boards after the reveal and E3. They gave him a temp ban so he'd cool off before he said something stupid. Thats okay.

 

Spot on..

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#259 XBOunity
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

 

neogaf seems a little anti microsoft and pro sony if you ask me, i read it everyday,    you cannot link neogaf,   DF is >>>>>>> neogaf :lol: as a link brah.   

tormentos

 

Fun fact neogaf leaked more than DF...:lol:

Hell on Killzone SF demo they identify 5 cores and a orchestrator when it was in fact 6 cores,core 0,core 1,core 2, and so on it was confirmed on Neogaf,and they were the ones who talked about the 6 cores before as well,so yeah the 6 core remark came from DF based on Killzone SF demo which was done on Unfinish hardware...:lol:

 

Interestingly, Guerrilla's presentation explicitly refers to "every" core being used, but the screenshots of the profiling tools - developed by the team itself owing to the work-in-progress nature of Sony's own analysis software - only seems to be explicitly identifying five worker threads. As of right now, we have no real idea of how much CPU time the PS4's new operating system sucks up and how much is left to game developers, and we understand that the system reservation is up in the air. However, the profiling tool shows that in the here and now there are indeed five workers threads, plus the "orchestrator" and each of them is locked to a single core. The inference we can draw right now is that while OS reservation hasn't been locked down, developers have access to at least six of the eight cores of the PS4's CPU.


CPU Load

  • 60 AI characters
  • 940 entities, 300 active
  • 8200 physics objects (1500 key-framed, 6700 static)
  • 500 particle systems
  • 120 sound voices
  • 110 ray casts
  • 1000 jobs per frame




http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-killzone-shadow-fall


It was DF who talked about the 6 core before it wasn't the developer,and it was based on unfinish hardware,look at the CPU task 120 sound voices on the PS4 hardware sound voices are done on the sound chip the PS4 has,not on the CPU this was already make clear by sony,so yeah everything was based on Killzone SF demo.


:lol:


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right now we are both speculating, cause we dont officially know, but will you be surprised if the PS4 uses 2 cores for the OS?    I know I wouldnt.   Do you really think they wanna gimp out there system when it comes to flexibility?    Are they trying to make a next gen experience or not?     You are way too hung up on this brah.

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#260 Tessellation
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wow the Damage control still going in full force with the essay full of rage,the facts provide by Digital Foundry and developers about the 2 cores reserved for the PS4 OS caused some serious damage to the basement dwellers :cool: #CONTINUECRYING
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#261 Bubba03
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LOL IDK whats this about but PS4 sucks LOL

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#262 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

XBOunity

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

 

Now explain all the rights since 2004 that he leaked xbox 360 info that was spot on,even better since GTA SA he has been spot on now explain that..

 

Why do you think his word is like godspell on Neogaf.?

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LOL IDK whats this about but PS4 sucks LOL

Bubba03

So you admit to being an idiot?

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#264 tormentos
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wow the Damage control still going in full force with the essay full of rage,the facts provide by Digital Foundry and developers about the 2 cores reserved for the PS4 OS caused some serious damage to the basement dwellers :cool: #CONTINUECRYINGTessellation

 

 

 

Interestingly, Guerrilla's presentation explicitly refers to "every" core being used, but the screenshots of the profiling tools - developed by the team itself owing to the work-in-progress nature of Sony's own analysis software - only seems to be explicitly identifying five worker threads. As of right now, we have no real idea of how much CPU time the PS4's new operating system sucks up and how much is left to game developers, and we understand that the system reservation is up in the air. However, the profiling tool shows that in the here and now there are indeed five workers threads, plus the "orchestrator" and each of them is locked to a single core. The inference we can draw right now is that while OS reservation hasn't been locked down, developers have access to at least six of the eight cores of the PS4's CPU.

 


CPU Load

  • 60 AI characters
  • 940 entities, 300 active
  • 8200 physics objects (1500 key-framed, 6700 static)
  • 500 particle systems
  • 120 sound voices
  • 110 ray casts
  • 1000 jobs per frame




http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-killzone-shadow-fall


OWNED...:lol:

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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

tormentos

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

I said he has been right before, just lately his word isnt as Godlike as it used to be, but you cant say that there.

 

Now explain all the rights since 2004 that he leaked xbox 360 info that was spot on,even better since GTA SA he has been spot on now explain that..

 

Why do you think his word is like godspell on Neogaf.?

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#266 Shensolidus
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[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

XBOunity

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

Let me let you in on a little secret - Did you know that 'The Last of Us' was originally to be revealed at Sony's Press Conference at E3 2011? Or that Pikmin 3 was set to be revealed for the Wii at E3 2010? No? That's because things change here in the game's industry at the last minute ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately, I can't comment on PoP due to my job. And for the 60M Family Share plan? Again, can't comment on it. However, I will say that no one will ever know whether he was right or wrong on the family share because they scrapped it. Do take into account that publishers were the ones who forced Sony to scale back its digital library sharing feature from 5 users to 2 back in 2010. On top of that, not 1 person at a third-party publisher had even heard mention of that feature until the press release 5 days prior to E3. Do you think third party publishers were just going to let their licenses be shared so openly? LOL
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A dual core i3 is still better than both of them :P

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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Shensolidus"]

Oh, a CBoaT denier eh? LOL Boy, your fanboy googles are deceiving you something fierce.

As someone in the industry with firsthand knowledge of these boxes, i've seen some incredible analysis of each hardware's individual capabilities. To be completely fair, they're just a community of gamers, and it isn't just them that have been burned by MS. I see WAY more MS fandom on this board, and it is significantly smaller by comparison.

TL;DR - Sony is more popular right now, and their campaign to win back gamer hearts was successful.

Shensolidus

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

Let me let you in on a little secret - Did you know that 'The Last of Us' was originally to be revealed at Sony's Press Conference at E3 2011? Or that Pikmin 3 was set to be revealed for the Wii at E3 2010? No? That's because things change here in the game's industry at the last minute ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately, I can't comment on PoP due to my job. And for the 60M Family Share plan? Again, can't comment on it. However, I will say that no one will ever know whether he was right or wrong on the family share because they scrapped it. Do take into account that publishers were the ones who forced Sony to scale back its digital library sharing feature from 5 users to 2 back in 2010. On top of that, not 1 person at a third-party publisher had even heard mention of that feature until the press release 5 days prior to E3. Do you think third party publishers were just going to let their licenses be shared so openly? LOL

 

 

he is good, but I think he doesnt like microsoft, was very upset when major nelson denied the yield problems, and as this is all speculation, he wasnt right about that as well it could turn out as well.   especially if the clock is over 800 mhz.

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#269 Shensolidus
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[QUOTE="Shensolidus"][QUOTE="XBOunity"]

prince of persia, and family timed demo of 60 minutes...     Explain those mishaps?    He has been right before, i know his history, but I think he is a little off lately.    Care to explain to me about prince of persia??  and Familyshare 60 minutes demo??    He was wrong on both.

XBOunity

Let me let you in on a little secret - Did you know that 'The Last of Us' was originally to be revealed at Sony's Press Conference at E3 2011? Or that Pikmin 3 was set to be revealed for the Wii at E3 2010? No? That's because things change here in the game's industry at the last minute ALL THE TIME. Unfortunately, I can't comment on PoP due to my job. And for the 60M Family Share plan? Again, can't comment on it. However, I will say that no one will ever know whether he was right or wrong on the family share because they scrapped it. Do take into account that publishers were the ones who forced Sony to scale back its digital library sharing feature from 5 users to 2 back in 2010. On top of that, not 1 person at a third-party publisher had even heard mention of that feature until the press release 5 days prior to E3. Do you think third party publishers were just going to let their licenses be shared so openly? LOL

 

 

he is good, but I think he doesnt like microsoft, was very upset when major nelson denied the yield problems, and as this is all speculation, he wasnt right about that as well it could turn out as well.   especially if the clock is over 800 mhz.

He is absolutely right about the yield "problems". I wouldn't call them problems. A problem makes it seems like a hindrance that occurred unintentionally. The Xbox One has a large board and die as a result of the system's need for ESRAM. That will just make your yield % per sheet lower than what you'd want. I don't think CBOAT is anti-MS, as he's clearly just pointing out bad stuff that is occuring behind the scenes for them, I just think MS tried to do a lot of bad shit and someone called them out on it. A lot of people are anti-ms right now, its gonna happen after some of the shit they pulled and how foolish they made people look. It happens.
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#270 Ravenlore_basic
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Not to mention the API abilities... 

http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/12/ps4s-super-charged-architecture-offers-more-customisation-than-pc-says-cerny/

 

I think by 2nd year of games PS4 abilities will shine.... but I do what to see if Microsoft has something up their sleave... they do have the money so It could happen,  just goint to wait and see

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]wow the Damage control still going in full force with the essay full of rage,the facts provide by Digital Foundry and developers about the 2 cores reserved for the PS4 OS caused some serious damage to the basement dwellers :cool: #CONTINUECRYINGtormentos

 

 

 

Interestingly, Guerrilla's presentation explicitly refers to "every" core being used, but the screenshots of the profiling tools - developed by the team itself owing to the work-in-progress nature of Sony's own analysis software - only seems to be explicitly identifying five worker threads. As of right now, we have no real idea of how much CPU time the PS4's new operating system sucks up and how much is left to game developers, and we understand that the system reservation is up in the air. However, the profiling tool shows that in the here and now there are indeed five workers threads, plus the "orchestrator" and each of them is locked to a single core. The inference we can draw right now is that while OS reservation hasn't been locked down, developers have access to at least six of the eight cores of the PS4's CPU.

 


CPU Load

  • 60 AI characters
  • 940 entities, 300 active
  • 8200 physics objects (1500 key-framed, 6700 static)
  • 500 particle systems
  • 120 sound voices
  • 110 ray casts
  • 1000 jobs per frame




http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-inside-killzone-shadow-fall


OWNED...:lol:

I think that is about right.

PS4: 6 available cores, 7gb free mem, 95-100% GPU/CPU free for games (secondary processor for OS saves resources for games)

1 reserved for OS, 1 core reserved for PS4 camera (it was intended to be bundled originally, and it doesnt have its own processor like the Kinect 2)

Rumors say that reserving a full core for OS is future proofing because the OS doesnt need the full core, and in later firmware updates half of that core can freed for games.

While the x180 has no room to grow because of the heavy trio of OS (the main reason why the HDD is non-replaceable, the trio of OS is too big for flash memory and has to run from HDD)

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oh, NeoGaf and their developer community wisdom... quoting Kotaku
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#273 shinko28
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XB1 is like a candidate running for office. the more closer we get to release date, the more bad publicity it gets.