Xbox One Worldwide Sales At 26 Million

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#101 zeeshanhaider
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@zeeshanhaider: Your weakass attempts at deflection and trolling won't work on me. If there's anyone running away from the truth in this thread it's you. You keep saying the bubble will burst soon but PS4 is selling faster than any PS console to date and is a massive success. You're living in denial because your precious Xbone flopped. You keep bringing up last gen to try and prove that consoles are shrinking but forget the market shrank not because Sony is underperforming but because Nintendo saw the causuals leave them after the Wii, and Xbox is underperforming. If you're so sure consoles will be dead "soon" why not give us a timeline and bet your account on it instead of this vague rubbish you're doing in this thread and weak trolling.

And that was my initial comment that put your fellow cows panties in a twist:

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lol and people still believe that consoles are not dying.

Yes, if X1 is doing bad the entire industry is doing bad.

Yes, if Sony is doing good the entire industry is doing good.

The bubble's gonna bust very soon.

What does Sony have to do with this?

80 million plus between the 2 and a new Nintendo console on the horizon. Hey, you can keep hoping to it to die.

And I already did gave a time frame though I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

ANd I would love to see some proof of me being a lem. Since you are so hell bent on it. That would be fun. :D

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#102 zeeshanhaider
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@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
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@zeeshanhaider: The only people going extinct are lems. PS4 is the fastest selling Sony console, if anything cow numbers are growing ?

For how long? That bubble is gonna bust soon. They are so afraid to lose their lead that they have finally released a 4Kinda machine that's only (and finally) capable to do 1080p in 2016. LMAO. They are scared of PC in their own words.

Since, that now you have brought up this issue, let me highlight another funny thing: MS will survive without Xbox, Nintendo too without consoles but Sony will be dead. :D

You keep saying soon.. How about name a time when the bubble will be burst?? Next year?? 10 years??? How about bet your account on it??

It already did as far as I can tell or why the sudden mid-gen upgrades? I'll give it 2 years max. I'll say around 2018 it will come to a halt and by 2020 even Sony will be releasing games for PC.

Cool.. wanna bet your account on it?? 2 years Max..

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

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#103  Edited By QuadKnight
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@zeeshanhaider: So you've admitted you're full of shit and have no facts to back up what you said? Good, I thought as much. You're just pulling predictions from your ass to cover up the fact the Xbone is a failure. Typical butthurt lem tactic.

You can't even stand by your own shit predictions and do an account bet on them ?.

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#104 Flyincloud1116
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
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@zeeshanhaider said:

If the world consists only of Sony drones, then yes. But actually, I also want all consoles to die, and they are dying.

Please explain how the world only consist of Sony. 26 million after that junk MS pulled is pretty good. The WiiU was a stupid idea, but the Switch may remedy that problem.

II loved how you kept avoiding the comparison with 7th gen. It's not hard. It's simple math, what are the numbers compared to last gen and the overall trend among consoles, PC and mobile phones. Is it growing or dwindling compared to PC and mobiles?

I like the way you ignore the external and internal factors why the sales are where they are. Since you made the statement, go get the numbers to prove that console gaming is dying.

I don't have to. You just did in this very reply by bringing the excuse of 'external and internal factors why the sales are where they are'. And who was he person that said it sold 80 million between Xbone and PS4? Do you know him? ;)

Like, I said you bunch won't be missed.

So you can't, thanks.

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#105 zeeshanhaider
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@zeeshanhaider: So you've admitted you're full of shit and have no facts to back up what you said? Good, I thought as much. You're just pulling predictions from your ass to cover up the fact the Xbone is a failure. Typical butthurt lem tactic.

So, this generation is on track to sell more consoles than 7th gen and its sales are increasing? Besides still waiting for a proof of me being a lem. :D

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#106 ni6htmare01
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

For how long? That bubble is gonna bust soon. They are so afraid to lose their lead that they have finally released a 4Kinda machine that's only (and finally) capable to do 1080p in 2016. LMAO. They are scared of PC in their own words.

Since, that now you have brought up this issue, let me highlight another funny thing: MS will survive without Xbox, Nintendo too without consoles but Sony will be dead. :D

You keep saying soon.. How about name a time when the bubble will be burst?? Next year?? 10 years??? How about bet your account on it??

It already did as far as I can tell or why the sudden mid-gen upgrades? I'll give it 2 years max. I'll say around 2018 it will come to a halt and by 2020 even Sony will be releasing games for PC.

Cool.. wanna bet your account on it?? 2 years Max..

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

Sure I will.. If you so sure that it will burst no later than 2018 than why not.. I WILL BET MY ACCOUNT ON IT THAT IT WILL NOT BURST.. your turn?

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#107 QuadKnight
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@zeeshanhaider: ? You're pulling shit from your ass. You don't even believe your own shit predictions seeing as you can't even bet your account on them.

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#108  Edited By Juub1990
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@commander: Source?

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#109 zeeshanhaider
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

Please explain how the world only consist of Sony. 26 million after that junk MS pulled is pretty good. The WiiU was a stupid idea, but the Switch may remedy that problem.

II loved how you kept avoiding the comparison with 7th gen. It's not hard. It's simple math, what are the numbers compared to last gen and the overall trend among consoles, PC and mobile phones. Is it growing or dwindling compared to PC and mobiles?

I like the way you ignore the external and internal factors why the sales are where they are. Since you made the statement, go get the numbers to prove that console gaming is dying.

I don't have to. You just did in this very reply by bringing the excuse of 'external and internal factors why the sales are where they are'. And who was he person that said it sold 80 million between Xbone and PS4? Do you know him? ;)

Like, I said you bunch won't be missed.

So you can't, thanks.

I'm sure you can find the numbers because you love sales so much, don't you? :D Your pathetic attempts at dodging the argument won't work here. You won't be missed when gamers are playing in true 4K on PC without compromise in quality and performance.

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#110  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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Hardly conclusive evidence that it's 26 million... I've read estimates more than that so who's right?

And saying that sales are losing momentum rapidly is incorrect from the evidence I've heard/seen... I've seen reports that there were more XB1s sold in the second half than PS4s (especially since release of Slim). And according to the manager at my local EB Games here in Aus, they sold a lot more XB1s over Xmas than PS4s (including Pro - which he said has bombed).

So sounds like nonsense to me.. but I'm sure I'll just be labelled a damage controlling lem. Whatevs.

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#111 zeeshanhaider
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@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:

You keep saying soon.. How about name a time when the bubble will be burst?? Next year?? 10 years??? How about bet your account on it??

It already did as far as I can tell or why the sudden mid-gen upgrades? I'll give it 2 years max. I'll say around 2018 it will come to a halt and by 2020 even Sony will be releasing games for PC.

Cool.. wanna bet your account on it?? 2 years Max..

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

Sure I will.. If you so sure that it will burst no later than 2018 than why not.. I WILL BET MY ACCOUNT ON IT THAT IT WILL NOT BURST.. your turn?

Ask the mods if they guarantee that you peeps will honor your words than I will because I don't trust cows.

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@zeeshanhaider: ? You're pulling shit from your ass. You don't even believe your own shit predictions seeing as you can't even bet your account on them.

No, it's because cows can't be trusted at all. And still waiting for the proof of me being a lem and well done on defelcting the question. :D I knew cows can't stand when confronted with facts, they are a hypocrite bunch.

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#112  Edited By QuadKnight
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@hrt_rulz01: The reports you saw were for NPD. This prediction is for worldwide. Xbone is getting its ass handed to it worldwide. LOL @ the idea of Xbone outselling PS4 at the second half of the year worldwide. Totally impossible.

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#113 hrt_rulz01
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@quadknight: Since the Slim has come out, Xbox has beaten PS4 in sales in various countries, including here in Aus. The second half would have been alot closer than you PS fangirls think.

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#114 ni6htmare01
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

It already did as far as I can tell or why the sudden mid-gen upgrades? I'll give it 2 years max. I'll say around 2018 it will come to a halt and by 2020 even Sony will be releasing games for PC.

Cool.. wanna bet your account on it?? 2 years Max..

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

Sure I will.. If you so sure that it will burst no later than 2018 than why not.. I WILL BET MY ACCOUNT ON IT THAT IT WILL NOT BURST.. your turn?

Ask the mods if they guarantee that you peeps will honor your words than I will because I don't trust cows.

@quadknight said:

@zeeshanhaider: ? You're pulling shit from your ass. You don't even believe your own shit predictions seeing as you can't even bet your account on them.

No, it's because cows can't be trusted at all. And still waiting for the proof of me being a lem and well done on defelcting the question. :D I knew cows can't stand when confronted with facts, they are a hypocrite bunch.

MODs if you are reading this I will bet my account on it. You can perm ban me If I lost the bet and ban my IP for create a new account.. The bet will be consoles will be burst at 2018.. Hows that?? You want to follow ??

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#115  Edited By QuadKnight
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@zeeshanhaider: Dude, you've already been called out in this thread. You either put up or shutup. You made a claim and prediction, if you can't stand by your own prediction you're full of shit. It's up to you to prove to us that your prediction will come true not the other way around, ? Stop dancing around like a coward and bet your account on this you clown.

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#116 dalger21
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Didn't XB1 "win" three straight months towards the end of last year when they released XB1 S? Even if the numbers are off by a few million, that's got to make you pause if MS are unable to break 30 mil in over three years The fact that MS won't release any definitive numbers about consoles sold tells you all you need to know about that. If MS fanboys assume Scorpio will put a dent in that lead that Sony has....man....

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#117  Edited By QuadKnight
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@hrt_rulz01: I'd like to see your source on that. All reports I've seen only had Xbone outselling the PS4 for just 4 months in UK and US alone. Even at that they lost the 2 biggest months of the year in US and U.K. (Nov and Dec). There's absolutely no way they've been winning worldwide like you say.

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Wait, wait, I don't want to read all this shit, but... is someone in here actually arguing that the console market is going to fail in 2018?

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#119 Flyincloud1116
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

II loved how you kept avoiding the comparison with 7th gen. It's not hard. It's simple math, what are the numbers compared to last gen and the overall trend among consoles, PC and mobile phones. Is it growing or dwindling compared to PC and mobiles?

I like the way you ignore the external and internal factors why the sales are where they are. Since you made the statement, go get the numbers to prove that console gaming is dying.

I don't have to. You just did in this very reply by bringing the excuse of 'external and internal factors why the sales are where they are'. And who was he person that said it sold 80 million between Xbone and PS4? Do you know him? ;)

Like, I said you bunch won't be missed.

So you can't, thanks.

I'm sure you can find the numbers because you love sales so much, don't you? :D Your pathetic attempts at dodging the argument won't work here. You won't be missed when gamers are playing in true 4K on PC without compromise in quality and performance.

You made the statement and without proof you are blowing hot air. You obviously pray every night that consoles die. The answer you keep getting is soon, right. Your stupid attempts to make a bold statement without facts will not work here Hermit. It should only take you a few seconds to find with that ultra power PC that you have, I mean what else is there for you to do in that lonely damp basement. And no you are not Batman.

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#120 ni6htmare01
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Wait, wait, I don't want to read all this shit, but... is someone in here actually arguing that the console market is going to fail in 2018?

Yes he did. And I'm betting my account with him. I'm waiting for his answer!

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#121 rrjim1
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Well it seems the Xbox one is pretty close to selling the same amount as the Xbox 360 did in the same amount of time. I guess for some people that's a failure!

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@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:

Cool.. wanna bet your account on it?? 2 years Max..

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

Sure I will.. If you so sure that it will burst no later than 2018 than why not.. I WILL BET MY ACCOUNT ON IT THAT IT WILL NOT BURST.. your turn?

Ask the mods if they guarantee that you peeps will honor your words than I will because I don't trust cows.

@quadknight said:

@zeeshanhaider: ? You're pulling shit from your ass. You don't even believe your own shit predictions seeing as you can't even bet your account on them.

No, it's because cows can't be trusted at all. And still waiting for the proof of me being a lem and well done on defelcting the question. :D I knew cows can't stand when confronted with facts, they are a hypocrite bunch.

MODs if you are reading this I will bet my account on it. You can perm ban me If I lost the bet and ban my IP for create a new account.. The bet will be consoles will be burst at 2018.. Hows that?? You want to follow ??

Sure, I'll wait for Mods approval, once they gave it their approval it will be on. And it should be noted I didn't say that all consoles will vanish by the end of 2018, that their sales will come to a grinding halt or not much sales. And by 2020 even Sony will be putting their games on PC further cementing the fact that consoles are indeed dying. Also, linking the MODS:

@darkspineslayer: @charizard1605: @Desmonic:

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@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:

As I said to quackknight: I won't be betting my account on it. Why would I, what's in it for me? Would you 3 also bet your accounts? Even if you did, I won't trust you. Already bet with cows like g-puking and AM-Gamer in the past. They did not honor their words. Why should I trust any other cow?

Sure I will.. If you so sure that it will burst no later than 2018 than why not.. I WILL BET MY ACCOUNT ON IT THAT IT WILL NOT BURST.. your turn?

Ask the mods if they guarantee that you peeps will honor your words than I will because I don't trust cows.

@quadknight said:

@zeeshanhaider: ? You're pulling shit from your ass. You don't even believe your own shit predictions seeing as you can't even bet your account on them.

No, it's because cows can't be trusted at all. And still waiting for the proof of me being a lem and well done on defelcting the question. :D I knew cows can't stand when confronted with facts, they are a hypocrite bunch.

MODs if you are reading this I will bet my account on it. You can perm ban me If I lost the bet and ban my IP for create a new account.. The bet will be consoles will be burst at 2018.. Hows that?? You want to follow ??

Sure, I'll wait for Mods approval, once they gave it their approval it will be on. And it should be noted I didn't say that all consoles will vanish by the end of 2018, that their sales will come to a grinding halt or not much sales. And by 2020 even Sony will be putting their games on PC further cementing the fact that consoles are indeed dying. Also, linking the MODS:

@darkspineslayer: @charizard1605: @Desmonic:

I'm on!

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#124 zeeshanhaider
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@quadknight said:

@zeeshanhaider: Dude, you've already been called out in this thread. You either put up or shutup. You made a claim and prediction, if you can't stand by your own prediction you're full of shit. It's up to you to prove to us that your prediction will come true not the other way around, ? Stop dancing around like a coward and bet your account on this you clown.

Nope, I madee a claim based on facts that none of you were able to refute. Let me repeat it again:

So, this generation is on track to sell more consoles than 7th gen and its sales are increasing? Besides still waiting for a proof of me being a lem.

Funny thing, none of you have been able to answer it and bouncing around this question to deflect it either by calling me a lem or childish bet. If you want the bet also bet your account like me under the gurantee of mods. Oh, and do answer the question before claiming anyone owned me.

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#125 zeeshanhaider
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@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

I like the way you ignore the external and internal factors why the sales are where they are. Since you made the statement, go get the numbers to prove that console gaming is dying.

I don't have to. You just did in this very reply by bringing the excuse of 'external and internal factors why the sales are where they are'. And who was he person that said it sold 80 million between Xbone and PS4? Do you know him? ;)

Like, I said you bunch won't be missed.

So you can't, thanks.

I'm sure you can find the numbers because you love sales so much, don't you? :D Your pathetic attempts at dodging the argument won't work here. You won't be missed when gamers are playing in true 4K on PC without compromise in quality and performance.

You made the statement and without proof you are blowing hot air. You obviously pray every night that consoles die. The answer you keep getting is soon, right. Your stupid attempts to make a bold statement without facts will not work here Hermit. It should only take you a few seconds to find with that ultra power PC that you have, I mean what else is there for you to do in that lonely damp basement. And no you are not Batman.

Oh, so much anger and gibberish yet failed to answer the simple question. :D You have been owned cow.

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#126 Jag85
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@commander said:
@brah4ever said:
@quadknight said:

@commander: We aren't in 1994 anymore no need to compare it to the Genesis. As a modern console from the 21st century its sales are abysmal. The gaming industry has grown a lot since the 90s, the Genesis' sales numbers is not a metric of success anymore (as much as I love that console).

This, gaming has got A LOT more mainstream in the past decade so comparing it's sales to something like the Genesis is just stupid.

Yes it's true that gaming has become more mainstream but there aren't any genesis sold anymore, that's not the case with the xbox. The xbox is only 3 years in , the genesis had a lifespan of 9 years.

Also, the genesis didn't sell very well compared to the nes and the snes for instance, the nes sold 60 million, the snes sold 50 million. Yet the genesis was never considered a failure.

The final Mega Drive/Genesis sales numbers are unknown, but somewhere around 36-40 million. However, the final tally doesn't tell the whole story. The Mega Drive lost Japan, but won the West. What gave the SNES a sizable lead in worldwide sales (49 million, about 9-13 million more) was the wide margin by which it destroyed the Mega Drive in Japan (14 million gap), whereas the Mega Drive won the West by only a small margin (roughly 1-5 million gap).

Comparing hardware unit sales from different eras is meaningless, for a number of reasons. Since the Mega Drive's launch, the world population has increased by nearly 50%, while the video game industry is at least twice as large as it was back then. But more importantly, what determines financial success and failure is the revenues and profits it generates for the company. With the Mega Drive, Sega was rolling in cash. With the X1, Microsoft's Xbox division is losing money for the company. While the Mega Drive initially sold at a loss, it broke even by the time the SNES launched and was making a profit on hardware, while also making sizable profits on software (the $60 average cartridge price back then is equivalent to $120 today). The X1 is still making losses on hardware to this day, and isn't selling enough software to make up for it. The software sales is what really counts, not just hardware sales.

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#127  Edited By Celsius765
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I gotta ask is the Xb1 mostly just a multi Plat box like the 360 before it. Normall that's OK but it may mean not getting popular or niche exclusives

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#128  Edited By gago-gago
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Wish MS would release official numbers so we have more accurate numbers instead, oh well. But what I find interesting, even at the numbers SuperData have listed, is that every now and then, Xbox One games whether they're multiplats or exclusives, outsell PS4 games whether they're multiplats or exclusives. It just shows you these companies continue to thrive no matter who's "ahead", business is booming!

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#129 Quicksilver128
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I'm mostly a cow and I don't see how anyone's celebrating this. Unless you want Sony to continue screwing people with PS Now, no UHD-Blu ray and absolutely zero backwards compatibility you better hope MS starts making it competative.

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#130 commander
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@Juub1990 said:

@commander: Source?

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Most_expensive_video_games

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#131  Edited By Jag85
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@commander said:
@Shewgenja said:
@commander said:
@Shewgenja said:

Not to mention that game development costs have exploded since those days.

What does that have to do with anything lmao.

Literally, everything. A Gen 6 sized install base will not be enough bait on the hook to lure exclusives. MS has had to back-track to their PC platform in order to get what games they do have. Without that, as well as the atomic fire-sales of the console, the XBox would be Dreamcasted.

So mario and sonic didn't matter in the past?

Besides, if I'm not mistaken, super mario costed 240 million dollars to make, with inflation, it can easily compete with todays development costs.

It didn't cost that much to develop, but that's close to how much it would've almost cost to manufacture cartridges. The game itself wouldn't have cost more than $1 million to develop, but to manufacture those 40 million cartridges, it would've cost over $200 million.

However, there wasn't much risk involved to manufacturing costs, as they didn't manufacture the cartridges immediately, but gradually over the years to meet demand. Atari made that mistake on the 2600, manufacturing millions of Pac-Man and ET cartridges upfront, with most left unsold, suffering huge losses as a result and almost crashing the industry. Nintendo played it safer, waiting it out to see how much demand there is, and then manufacturing cartridges to meed the demand. In comparison, today's AAA games spend around $100 million to develop upfront, with no guarantee of success, so there is much greater risk involved to development costs today, compared to cartridge manufacturing costs back then.

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#132  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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Both Sony and MS have committed to BC this gen, and I reckon we'll see that paying off for both going forward. By not culling their entire library and shifting pasture every 6 years, they've hopefully laid the grounds for a decent ecosystem to develop. There's no reason for classic games to be exclusive to dead systems - 12 years on and that same copy of Half Life 2 is still a system seller to some.

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#133  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Quicksilver128 said:

I'm mostly a cow and I don't see how anyone's celebrating this. Unless you want Sony to continue screwing people with PS Now, no UHD-Blu ray and absolutely zero backwards compatibility you better hope MS starts making it competative.

MS should either become really competitive or leave. Competition is good but not weakass competition like they are doing now.

The Xbone as it is doesn't have any real exclusives and MS doesn't seem to care about creating new IPs. Sure they say they are committed to delivering the "best lineup ever" every year but none of their actions shows they actually are. They keep cancelling games and closing down studios. One reason I respect Nintendo as competition to Sony even though they aren't doing well currently in the console space is that they are actually committed to delivering on games. MS seems okay with coasting by on multiplats and relying on the same 3 tired HaloForzaGears trinity. If that's all they plan to give gamers they should just kill off the Xbox and make those games multiplat as I'm sure those franchises will continue to be successful whether they are on Xbone or not, and make room for another competitor like Samsung. Settling for mediocrity so that we can say Sony has competition isn't the way forward. Sony should actually have good quality competition IMO.

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#134 drummerdave9099
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Good to see PS4 selling so well... means I'll be able to get a used one for real cheap someday when nobody wants theirs anymore :D

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#135  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:
@zeeshanhaider said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

So you can't, thanks.

I'm sure you can find the numbers because you love sales so much, don't you? :D Your pathetic attempts at dodging the argument won't work here. You won't be missed when gamers are playing in true 4K on PC without compromise in quality and performance.

You made the statement and without proof you are blowing hot air. You obviously pray every night that consoles die. The answer you keep getting is soon, right. Your stupid attempts to make a bold statement without facts will not work here Hermit. It should only take you a few seconds to find with that ultra power PC that you have, I mean what else is there for you to do in that lonely damp basement. And no you are not Batman.

Oh, so much anger and gibberish yet failed to answer the simple question. :D You have been owned cow.

You WIN. You will not provide proof, so I give. I hope this makes you day. You won the internet.

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#136 PinchySkree
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And the gaming experience is still slow, low resolution, reduced asset cludge.

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#137 ni6htmare01
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@quadknight said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

I'm mostly a cow and I don't see how anyone's celebrating this. Unless you want Sony to continue screwing people with PS Now, no UHD-Blu ray and absolutely zero backwards compatibility you better hope MS starts making it competative.

MS should either become really competitive or leave. Competition is good but not weakass competition like they are doing now.

The Xbone as it doesn't have any real exclusives and MS doesn't seem to care about creating new IPs. Sure they say they are committed to delivering the "best lineup ever" every year but none of their actions shows they actually are. They keep cancelling games and closing down studios. One reason I respect Nintendo as competition to Sony even though they aren't doing well currently in the console space is that they are actually committed to delivering on games. MS seems okay with coasting by on multiplats and relying on the same 3 tired HaloForzaGears trinity. If that's all they plan to give gamers they should just kill off the Xbox and make those games multiplat as I'm sure those franchises will continue to be successful whether they are on Xbone or not, and make room for another competitor like Samsung. Settling for mediocrity so that we can say Sony has competition isn't the way forward. Sony should have actually good quality competition IMO.

Hopefully Scorpio or whatever is going to call will give Sony a little push. competition is always good they help moving things forward.

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#138  Edited By QuadKnight
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@ni6htmare01 said:
@quadknight said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

I'm mostly a cow and I don't see how anyone's celebrating this. Unless you want Sony to continue screwing people with PS Now, no UHD-Blu ray and absolutely zero backwards compatibility you better hope MS starts making it competative.

MS should either become really competitive or leave. Competition is good but not weakass competition like they are doing now.

The Xbone as it doesn't have any real exclusives and MS doesn't seem to care about creating new IPs. Sure they say they are committed to delivering the "best lineup ever" every year but none of their actions shows they actually are. They keep cancelling games and closing down studios. One reason I respect Nintendo as competition to Sony even though they aren't doing well currently in the console space is that they are actually committed to delivering on games. MS seems okay with coasting by on multiplats and relying on the same 3 tired HaloForzaGears trinity. If that's all they plan to give gamers they should just kill off the Xbox and make those games multiplat as I'm sure those franchises will continue to be successful whether they are on Xbone or not, and make room for another competitor like Samsung. Settling for mediocrity so that we can say Sony has competition isn't the way forward. Sony should have actually good quality competition IMO.

Hopefully Scorpio or whatever is going to call will give Sony a little push. competition is always good they help moving things forward.

If they don't announce new IPs and a greater focus on games going forward I don't see a change. New hardware is nice but what really pushes the needle is games. They'd better bring the games this E3.

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#139 Flubbbs
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Good job Microsoft, you may surpass the Atari 2600 by the end of the year

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#140 Epak_
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Scorpio can't come soon enough.

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#141  Edited By ni6htmare01
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@quadknight said:
@ni6htmare01 said:
@quadknight said:
@Quicksilver128 said:

I'm mostly a cow and I don't see how anyone's celebrating this. Unless you want Sony to continue screwing people with PS Now, no UHD-Blu ray and absolutely zero backwards compatibility you better hope MS starts making it competative.

MS should either become really competitive or leave. Competition is good but not weakass competition like they are doing now.

The Xbone as it doesn't have any real exclusives and MS doesn't seem to care about creating new IPs. Sure they say they are committed to delivering the "best lineup ever" every year but none of their actions shows they actually are. They keep cancelling games and closing down studios. One reason I respect Nintendo as competition to Sony even though they aren't doing well currently in the console space is that they are actually committed to delivering on games. MS seems okay with coasting by on multiplats and relying on the same 3 tired HaloForzaGears trinity. If that's all they plan to give gamers they should just kill off the Xbox and make those games multiplat as I'm sure those franchises will continue to be successful whether they are on Xbone or not, and make room for another competitor like Samsung. Settling for mediocrity so that we can say Sony has competition isn't the way forward. Sony should have actually good quality competition IMO.

Hopefully Scorpio or whatever is going to call will give Sony a little push. competition is always good they help moving things forward.

If they don't announce new IPs and a greater focus on games going forward I don't see a change. New hardware is nice but what really pushes the needle is games. They'd better bring the games this E3.

well. that is always the problem with MS.. Halo/Gear/Forza cycle is not a joke. That is big reason why I'm not buying Xbox this gen. They need to pay up for some games that only Xbox has other wise I will skip the Scorpio as well as I don't have 4K TV so 4K means shit to me!

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#142  Edited By Lilseb93
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Well the launch of the console doomed them from the start. They've spent much of the gen so far backpedalling from the backlash. While they did a pretty good job getting away from those terrible policies, the damage was already done. You already have Nintendo appealing to casuals and Nintendo fans, PS with the more world wide appeal with more exclusives and being a bit stronger (plus they stole big 3rd party support from MS like CoD), and the PC of course, there wasn't a ton of reasons to buy an Xbox unless you're a big Forza, Halo, and Gears of War. Microsoft needs to hit on more new IPs and exclusives. But I'm not sure if they can ever match Sony or even Nintendo outside of NA.

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#143 stereointegrity
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So are these estimates to be believed?

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#145 mave198
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MS should be EMBARRASSED by those numbers. No wonder they don't report sales anymore.

TLHBO

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#146  Edited By misterpmedia
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Will deffo wait for more concrete leaks or Cancelsoft finding their balls again and coming out with actual figures.

In saying that, when you're a console that has little to no appeal anywhere but the NA and UK, worldwide sales looking around that number wouldn't surprise me at all. I think the ones stated here are a little generous actually.

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#147 NathanDrakeSwag
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And lems seemed so sure sales were at least 30 million. Maybe by the end of the year Xbone will be 30 million and PS4 will be over 70 million.

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#148  Edited By samfisher56
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Remember how lems were saying that putting Xbox exclusives on PC wont hurt sales lol?

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#149 bowserjr123
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This is the geek in me coming out but it seems like each console's sales is a multiple of the Wii U's: multiply Wii U sales by 2 to get Xbone's and multiply them by a little over 4 to get PS4's.

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#150  Edited By Flyincloud1116
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

And lems seemed so sure sales were at least 30 million. Maybe by the end of the year Xbone will be 30 million and PS4 will be over 70 million.

Lemmings are saying that consoles gaming is dead.