Xbox One Worldwide Sales At 26 Million

The xbox division isn't making money because so much goes into research in development, they are making money of every xbox sold though but it doesn't cover the expenses.

But microsoft doesn't need to, a lot may have changed since the genesis in terms of profit of console sales, the industry , especially in microsofts case is completely different, this isn't their core business.

So your whole argument doesn't matter, the whole sales argument doesn't matter. The point is the xboxone sells enough to matter. Even with 50 percent more people, the xbox one lifespan is far from over and at current sales rate it won't do much worse than the genesis , relatively speaking.

People talk about this numbers like the xboxone is total failure which is complete nonsense. The xboxone is selling well enough to have a significant userbase.

Microsoft should be looking to at least keep sales at a gradual pace, have spikes for a few months here and there, but to do that they will need to release exciting games, New IP's draw in a sale from someone that's never had an Xbox, old franchises wont do that. Microsoft really need to spend some of that money on getting some massive new IP's going.

Other than that I couldn't be happier with my Xbox One, absolutely love the thing.

Well that's a bit different. That's the manufacturing budget. I thought you meant strictly production/development budget. The major difference is the fact that manufacturing cost can be controlled by the demand. Production cost cannot. I don't think they factor manufacturing cost in GTA V 250M$ budget. Discs are a lot cheaper to manufacture.

For Sony it is increasing from last gen. Maybe it just shows how M$ and Nintendo fucked up.

They don't have any new IPs in the pipeline besides Sea of Thieves. Insiders are saying they won't even have major new game reveals at E3 this year. The games we know about (SoT, State of Decay 2, Crackdown, Forza 7, Halo 6) is really all they have on the way. Apparently they are expecting the Scorpio to sell itself.

No. He's a lem posing as a fake manticore. Us manticores can recognize our brethren from miles away.

Do the numbers really even matter anymore? We all know what happened this gen. Here's a recap:

1) The XB1 got owned.

2) MS got owned.

3) Lems got owned.

End of story.

Wii sold a lot to non gamers where this gen you do not have the Wii effect so you really can't compare the numbers.

Comparing same time-frame X360 was at 28+ mil. WW. So, Xbone is behind X360. Otherwise MS would scream out loud "Xbone is outpacing X360" like they did year ago :

http://news.xbox.com/2016/01/04/greatest-games-extends-to-2016/

Today is not the case.

While I wouldn't go as far as saying the X1 is a "total failure", it is still safe to call it a financial failure at this point, due to how it's losing money for Microsoft. The whole point of a business is to make money, which the X1 is failing to do. The amount that they're selling, in terms of hardware and software sales, isn't enough to cover for the costs they've invested into the X1, including the R&D, hardware manufacturing, software development, marketing, distribution, etc. X1 needs to significantly improve its hardware and software sales to become a financial success.

Yeah but the average game today doesn't cost that much , only the major titles top that and they have a significant fanbase. Not to mention that a lot of major devs use certain methods to ensure sales. They know what work and doesn't work, rockstar for instance doesn't make any bad games. I mean you could say the same about manufacturing cpu's, this isn't something you just get into. Yet there are still indie games that top the revenues of all these major titles.

Your argument about cartridges isn't exactly correct either. It's not like you can make a 1000 cartridges and then manufacture them on the fly because demand suddenly increased, You had to make a certain estimate and even for late nineties games this was still a problem. It's one of the reasons why new devs in the industry avoided the n64.

There's no denying that the costs have increased but this isn't a major hurdle for a company like microsoft to produce any exclusives, or contractually bind a dev to their system. They know that exclusives are not the reason the ps4 is so successfull, it's the hardware under the hood and that's why they're investing big in the scorpio.

GTA IV was bad and thankfully in retrospective is shunned by the masses.

Non-gamers went from Wii to mobile games. Now the market is back to normal with mostly gamers buying consoles but still Wii-U sales were pathetic and I would be worried if I was Nintendo.

Holy shit that is the funniest shit I have read all day. ROFLMAO! Did I really just read this bullshit!

When someone talks about estimated Xbox sales, the Sony fanboys will flock LOL.

Go ahead Char, keep feeding your fans, they haven't eaten in awhile.

But that's the point with microsoft, the xbox isn't their core business. Financial success is defenitely a goal but this can be as long term as they want. They rather invest in research and development than in a quick buck. The fact that they keep on investing means that they won't go away, the scorpio is the proof of that and then sony will know what kind of animal microsoft really is. They already got a taste with it with the x360 but the scorpio is going to be much worse.

For the consumer 'this financial failure' means nothing, It would have meant something if the the xboxone wasn't selling at all, but that's not the case now is it.

"Estimated" i.e. 'we think' i.e. 'we don't actually know' i.e. VGChartz 2.0.

It doesn't matter if it's based upon collected data, it's incomplete data and it could be off by millions. The most anyone should take away from this is that the Xbox One has sold at least 26 million.

People this is an analyst making a guess at the numbers. This can't be taken serious as only Microsoft knows the numbers. This is the exact same as VGchartz guessing the amount of sales because it could be more, or hell it could be a lot less. So this just shit posting from an analyst. They are wrong all the time, just look how well they thought the PSVR would do.

Their last hope is Switch, I hope it sells well enough at least . Hate to see another company goes down.

@k--m--k speaks the truth, but cows will run with any data as being the truth if the skews in their direction. If another analyst came out and said Xbox was at 30+ million they would start screaming bullshit, and all the other shit they can make up. The truth is no one knows the number except for Microsoft. Until Microsoft comes out with the exact numbers the analyst and VGAchartz is just shit data.

To be fair, who really cares what the Xbone has sold? Since MS gave all its games to PC, the console has no reason to exist, its unneeded, unwanted and unappreciated. As if this wasn't enough, they canned its biggest game of 2017 and there is literally not a single good game to look forward to. How can it even sell is a mystery to me.

Flagged for inaccurate and misleading thread title, no word of this being an estimate, which is all it is.

Coming from Charizard this is funny as he's always preaching accuracy in other people's posts and threads.

Edit: lol can't flag a mod

Why? According to you it could be off million, so it could be 23 million or 25 million.

Exactly. They were screaming that for at least one year.

Oh, Aaron Greenberg bullshit.

Oh so now VGchartz is bad? lol. I tell you this place...just lol

Very true. He should say in big letters ESTIMATED BY AN ANALYST. His title tries to imply this as some sort of fact. For shame!

lol @ lems trying to ignore this "cause steemates!" That MS chooses not to release numbers is evidence that the numbers are indeed as embarrassing as those. MS never had problems about releasing numbers when they were doing well. And estimates can be off but not by much, a couple of million tops (and that's pushing). Still pathetic numbers.

Ha ha ha, good point.

I remember just recently we had a discussion about VGChartz and why they are bad because of their estimates but he makes a thread based on estimates LOL.

If you're making estimates such as this it's based upon collected data, the chance of it being lower is slim to none as they had enough to throw out a 26 million figure. It however being higher due to incomplete data collection is extremely plausible.

Scorpio will sell most to people that already have an Xbox one and are happy with the system and games. That is unless Microsoft at E3 and beyond show new IP's, exciting games, and a good price point for that system, price point wont happen, it is for the enthusiasts and that means the gamer that already loves what Xbox provides now.

Scorpio will sell itself to a selected audience, as did the Ps4Pro, but Sony had a much bigger audience waiting to upgrade.

LOLLOLOL

It is pretty clear in the OP that it is an estimated number. It's even highlighted and linked.

Gosh lems you even want to moderate mods now due to your butthurt?? Come on now, have some dignity.

Because not everyone in the universe wants to play Forza and Gears of War on a PC. I have never played anything on a PC besides Simcity 3000 and Simtower. When I want to play a game, I want to get as far away from a PC as possible. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Why is this such a hard concept for people to understand? Even if games like Gears 4 are on PC, it does not matter if a person does not want to mess with PCs or the BS that often comes with them.

So, if they want a pre built console that plays those games, their only choice is to go buy an Xbox One.

This is a stupid argument, and yet people love to pull it out of the hat. But here's the thing, why bother buying any console at this point unless you really love Uncharted or Mario? I mean going by the asine logic here, I could skip both a PS4 and Xbox if I wanted to play pretty much any major third-party title.

Just because games are on PC does not mean everyone is going to run to play on a PC. I can barely get my computers to run a f***ing web browser. Why would I waste hours and money trying to build a rig to play Killer Instinct or Gears 4 when I can just go buy an Xbox One?

Some people are into PC games. Many people are not.

Well since Microsoft doesn't release the numbers no one has any idea how many are sold period and all of these guesses are just that guesses! Hell for all we know it could be 10 million less or 10 million more and the FACTS are no one knows the amount sold period! We do know PS4 is the leader and will stay the leader even after Scorpio releases. I just hope all the consoles do well so we don't lose competition. Sometimes I wished Nintendo and Microsoft would both leave the industry so consoles would just die off and we only have to deal with PC!

LOL no.

Another lem wanting the industry to die due to his butthurt. Gosh lems are the worst fanboys EVER!

Can you read? In the title of this thread does he say "estimated" sales of the Xbox?

You clowns eat, sleep and breathe Xbox, more than people that actually own a Xbox LOL.

No, I happen to know them and they are both pretty in love with their xbones.

What are you even talking about?

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

You clowns eat, sleep and breathe Xbox, more than people that actually own a Xbox LOL.

No, I happen to know them and they are both pretty in love with their xbones.

What are you even talking about?

There was no punchline so how is that a joke. Try again.

So you are saying they have enough data for 26million to be correct, but it's not close to being accurate.

Makes sense why suddenly xbox live is free on pc.

I meant from a sales perspective

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@dakur said:

No, I happen to know them and they are both pretty in love with their xbones.

What are you even talking about?

There was no punchline so how is that a joke. Try again.

You can keep posting all the gifs you want, your "joke" was lame... move on.

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

What are you even talking about?

There was no punchline so how is that a joke. Try again.

You can keep posting all the gifs you want, your "joke" was lame... move on.

If you want to call them "jokes"???

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@dakur said:

@BigShotSmoov007 said:

@dakur said:

There was no punchline so how is that a joke. Try again.

You can keep posting all the gifs you want, your "joke" was lame... move on.

If you want to call them "jokes"???

That's why I put it in " " :)

I imagine this is just pages on pages of BH LeMS drafting up damage control essays.

The Xbox One is an excellent console, at least the S version, I didn't have the original version though.

The problem was that Microsoft really f***d up at the beginning of this generation, that DRM s**t, the 24/7 internet connection required, the forced Kinect, the lower performance compared to the PS4 and the higher price were a real issue for most people, me included, I was looking forward to move from the 360 to the One but those 5 things made me change my mind and went with the PS4 instead and I am sure I am not the only one who did the exact same thing. When they tried to change things around it was too late, the One S was the console that they should have launched in the first place, I feel in love when I first saw it and decided to give Microsoft another chance (of course Gears 4 and Horizon 3 had some influence too ha ha ha ha).

I don't think the console is a complete failure, I love my One, but I think the poor and stupid decisions from Microsoft at the beginning killed the console before it was launched!