So the lemmings and ms it self have been selling this platform as a true 4k machine and it hasn't even launch and the first dynamic game hit is a joke i told you lemmings that this machine wasn't as powerful as you thought but you dont listen..
The damage control is epic..lol
FreeSync supports already implies not all games would be 60 fps. Again, all hardware has limits and the difference hardware has different limits.
At 4K, RX_470(hence PS4 Pro) class GPU is worst than MSI R9-390X 1100 Mhz OC and GTX 1070.
Any game logic that runs on the PS4 CPU will run at the same frame rate at 4k on Scorpio.
The fact you don't know how this works makes your creation of this thread a bit ironic.
Gears of War 4 at 4K with high settings on GTX 1070 SC (Super Overclock) still fails to reach 60 fps e.g. 53 fps average with 39 fps minimum.
Irrelevant. Gears 4 runs at 30fps for Campaign and Horde, and the Gamer Nexus benchmarks you're referring to are done with Campaign benchmark. The whole game also uses adaptive horizontal resolution scaling(i.e. dynamic res) for intensive segments.
Additionally, I counted around 6 instances of Digital Foundry comparing the Xbox One settings implementation to a 'Medium' PC preset, and 7 instances where it used a 'High' setting from PC. Gears 4 has 16% performance difference between High and Med.
Fury and 980ti can both push 4k30fps/Ultra. When you're GPU-bound on a consolized game almost any CPU can drive it at 30fps. So, Gears 4 will be 4k30fps/Ultra on Scorpio and revert to Xbone settings at 4k/60fps in MP.
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
@SecretPolice: ps4-pro also does true 4k and it's cheaper and better games.
You don't get it do you. 4K will be a standard but the graphics in-game will most likely be put on higher than the Pro's. I don't get it. You don't have to be smart to figure this out.
AC is already dynamic and it doesn't even lo k better then horizon zero dawn base ps4 LOL. dat cpu already shitting
How do you even know what the new AC looks like? Did you watch it streaming in 4k on a 4k display? Even if so, which I doubt, stream compression is still degrading the quality that is there. Also it clearly said it was still from an Alpha build, so the game hasn't received the final polish and optimization it will get before release. Are you new to gaming and don't know how this stuff works? No...I think your just a troll trying REALLY hard to diminish the great console that is X1X.
The best comparison you could do would be AC visuals running on X1X on Pro, but as far as I know no footage of it running on Pro has been made public. Your comparison is garbage and irrelevant because they are different games by different devs with different styles running on different engines.
Though I bet HZD would look even better on an X1X.
@SecretPolice: ps4-pro also does true 4k and it's cheaper and better games.
You don't get it do you. 4K will be a standard but the graphics in-game will most likely be put on higher than the Pro's. I don't get it. You don't have to be smart to figure this out.
Any game logic that runs on the PS4 CPU will run at the same frame rate at 4k on Scorpio.
The fact you don't know how this works makes your creation of this thread a bit ironic.
Gears of War 4 at 4K with high settings on GTX 1070 SC (Super Overclock) still fails to reach 60 fps e.g. 53 fps average with 39 fps minimum.
Irrelevant. Gears 4 runs at 30fps for Campaign and Horde, and the Gamer Nexus benchmarks you're referring to are done with Campaign benchmark. The whole game also uses adaptive horizontal resolution scaling(i.e. dynamic res) for intensive segments.
Irrelevant with "for Versus". I used PC's Campaign benchmark, therefore the only relevant comparison is Campaign.
@gamecubepad said:
Additionally, I counted around 6 instances of Digital Foundry comparing the Xbox One settings implementation to a 'Medium' PC preset, and 7 instances where it used a 'High' setting from PC.
Fury and 980ti can both push 4k30fps/Ultra. When you're GPU bound on a consolized game almost any CPU can drive it at 30fps. So, Gears 4 will be 4k30fps/Ultra on Scorpio and revert to Xbone settings at 4k/60fps in MP.
Fury X's minimum frame rate dipped below 30 fps. MSI R9-390X 1100Mhz has better frame rate minimums over Fury X. This is high settings not ultra settings.
Minimum frame rate has higher importance to minimize frame rate pacing issues.
Mike Rayner: You’ll still get all the benefits of our Xbox One X update that really elevate the visuals of the game – that means the higher resolution textures, the fully dynamic shadows, improved reflections and so on are all there even if you’re outputting to a 1080p TV.
Mike Rayner: Our team have set out to really push what we can achieve at a native 4K resolution while maintaining a rock solid framerate – and all in time for our Day One Update so fans can experience Gears of War 4 running with the power of Xbox One X on release day.
With that being our focus, we’re running at 4K 30FPS for Campaign/Horde and 4K 60FPS for Versus with adaptive scaling to ensure a rock-solid frame rate that fans expect from our head to head multiplayer. Many of the improvements to Campaign also make it to Versus and Horde, including 4K, HDR, higher resolution textures, improved draw distances, and Dolby Atmos Support.
That's higher than XBO settings for both Campaign and Versus. X1X has rock-solid frame rate for 4K Campaign mode i.e. Fury X's bellow 30 fps is inferior.
Improved draw distance refers to CPU power. At 4K, the bottlenecks are with the GPU as indicated by PC benchmarks with faster CPUs.
For X1X's Versus mode,
TMU and memory storage is OK hence higher resolution textures.
Improved draw distance refers to CPU power.
Conclusion: GPU bound.
With higher settings + rock-solid frame rate with campaign mode, X1X has splashed (beaten) MSI R9-390X 1100Mhz, Fury X (problems with minimum frame rate) and GTX 980 Ti (problems with minimum frame rate).
Again, X1X lands on GTX 1070 class GPU for Gears of War 4.
Damn a lot of topics about Xbox since the Sony conference. I would've thought they had something good to share, but the insecurity really is alive again. Like it was in 2013-2014 when PS barely had any decent game and cows preferred talking about flaws on the Xbox instead of their empty library
In 2013/14 i remember lems and especially sheep being on rampant , making fun of PS4 every other post with the infamous motto " PS4 has no games " over and over.
I wonder where is X1 and Wii U at the last few years though. Not only sales wise but games wise as well. Do you get lems and sheep mocking and making fun of SONY and PS3/PS4 (at the very start ) since 2005 non stop up to 2013/14 ? Dont play the victims now please. Cows will say their BS , like every other fanboy , but lets not forget where all this began last generation.
AC is already dynamic and it doesn't even lo k better then horizon zero dawn base ps4 LOL. dat cpu already shitting
How do you even know what the new AC looks like? Did you watch it streaming in 4k on a 4k display? Even if so, which I doubt, stream compression is still degrading the quality that is there. Also it clearly said it was still from an Alpha build, so the game hasn't received the final polish and optimization it will get before release. Are you new to gaming and don't know how this stuff works? No...I think your just a troll trying REALLY hard to diminish the great console that is X1X.
The best comparison you could do would be AC visuals running on X1X on Pro, but as far as I know no footage of it running on Pro has been made public. Your comparison is garbage and irrelevant because they are different games by different devs with different styles running on different engines.
Though I bet HZD would look even better on an X1X.
the point is MS advertised xbox one x as a true 4k console which is not, stop flip flopping
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
you can stop flip flopping phil spencer is a scam
Yeah...simply fooling people with the "dynamic 4k" bullshit
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
you can stop flip flopping phil spencer is a scam
Yeah...simply fooling people with the "dynamic 4k" bullshit
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
you can stop flip flopping phil spencer is a scam
Yeah...simply fooling people with the "dynamic 4k" bullshit
AC is already dynamic and it doesn't even lo k better then horizon zero dawn base ps4 LOL. dat cpu already shitting
How do you even know what the new AC looks like? Did you watch it streaming in 4k on a 4k display? Even if so, which I doubt, stream compression is still degrading the quality that is there. Also it clearly said it was still from an Alpha build, so the game hasn't received the final polish and optimization it will get before release. Are you new to gaming and don't know how this stuff works? No...I think your just a troll trying REALLY hard to diminish the great console that is X1X.
The best comparison you could do would be AC visuals running on X1X on Pro, but as far as I know no footage of it running on Pro has been made public. Your comparison is garbage and irrelevant because they are different games by different devs with different styles running on different engines.
Though I bet HZD would look even better on an X1X.
the point is MS advertised xbox one x as a true 4k console which is not, stop flip flopping
LOL
It does play games at 4k60,as opposed to the PS4 "pro"
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
you can stop flip flopping phil spencer is a scam
Yeah...simply fooling people with the "dynamic 4k" bullshit
the ones fooling people here is MS
You soon forget, when Sony release the PS4 Pro they did claiming it was a 4k machine.
MS fanboys should be named and shamed, not forgetting bans. Time and time again me and many others were correct knowing 4K on the majority of games was not going to happen. Unfortunately the corporate sheep will believe anything for a company who really doesn't care about you, and know lies will always get their needed money.
So a cow creates a thread about the X1X and it's lems in DC mode? Doesn't matter that MS said it's in developer hands for true 4K but I understand, you're having a meltdown because the Pro can't do it.
@MonsieurX: bunch of knoops the difference here is sony never advertised ps pro as true 4k device, that is the difference and ps4 actually has good games..
and GT sport is true 4k 60fps and looks better then Forza 7 LOL
you can stop flip flopping phil spencer is a scam
Yeah...simply fooling people with the "dynamic 4k" bullshit
the ones fooling people here is MS
You soon forget, when Sony release the PS4 Pro they did claiming it was a 4k machine.
@SecretPolice: ps4-pro also does true 4k and it's cheaper and better games.
You don't get it do you. 4K will be a standard but the graphics in-game will most likely be put on higher than the Pro's. I don't get it. You don't have to be smart to figure this out.
Cows in MASSIVE DC in this thread. Scorpio is finally starting to hit them where it hurts and they're scared more now that ever. True 4K gaming and they have to deal with 1080 medium on the Pro hahahahaah
The fear is real just look at quack having his meltdown
MS fanboys should be named and shamed, not forgetting bans. Time and time again me and many others were correct knowing 4K on the majority of games was not going to happen. Unfortunately the corporate sheep will believe anything for a company who really doesn't care about you, and know lies will always get their needed money.
Well apparently it does... Currently the list is longer for True 4K, than dynamic 4K
@SecretPolice: ps4-pro also does true 4k and it's cheaper and better games.
4K will be a standard
Yeah like 4-5 years from now on PC.
Pretty much. What cracks me up are the fanboys in this forum getting their little e-peen hardons for "teh graphics." Does the game look good? Is it fun to play? Cool. Who gives a f*ck what its running at. Grow up.
I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.
I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.
Scared of what? That 5 people will buy it? Oh the fear.
@SecretPolice: ps4-pro also does true 4k and it's cheaper and better games.
4K will be a standard
Yeah like 4-5 years from now on PC.
Pretty much. What cracks me up are the fanboys in this forum getting their little e-peen hardons for "teh graphics." Does the game look good? Is it fun to play? Cool. Who gives a f*ck what its running at. Grow up.
Okay. But resolution isn't the only thing that goes up when your machine gets stronger. Graphics goes up too, and that gives way to objective discussion (although never in here). But I don't think it should give way to someone who measures their maturity and superiority by how little they care about graphics. There is still something to be said about graphics and there always will be. Get off your high horse.
Cows on suicide watch after their hopes and dreams of a PS5 went down in flames.
Face it. You are stuck with that inferior hardware known as Teh Pro for a while. You better hope Sony secures more marketing deals on multiplats too. Other than a dlc pistol you will be running the worst version. Live in the Poo Sony fan.
Cows gotta get some new material. They cant talk about 1080p now. After yesterdays mediocre E3 they cant claim exclusives either unless you wanna play some Knack 2 or Ni I Get No Kuni 2.
All they have left is Phil bashing and the weakest hardware for the rest of this gen.
I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.
Scared of what? That 5 people will buy it? Oh the fear.
Doesn't matter if it's 1 person, the fact that the PS4 will no longer have the best looking multiplats has all you cows scared. Just look at quacks meltdowns in every thread. It sucks for you cows but luckily I'm a manticore and will be able to enjoy all no matter the platform :)
I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.
Scared of what? That 5 people will buy it? Oh the fear.
Doesn't matter if it's 1 person, the fact that the PS4 will no longer have the best looking multiplats has all you cows scared. Just look at quacks meltdowns in every thread. It sucks for you cows but luckily I'm a manticore and will be able to enjoy all no matter the platform :)
Yeah, let's see about that. Heard Metro ran on a PC on the Xbox E3 event.
Okay. But resolution isn't the only thing that goes up when your machine gets stronger. Graphics goes up too, and that gives way to objective discussion (although never in here). But I don't think it should give way to someone who measures their maturity and superiority by how little they care about graphics. There is still something to be said about graphics and there always will be. Get off your high horse.
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