xbox x not so true 4k as told

@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito said:

@Ant_17 said:

Yikes, lems bringing out the charts.

Xbox One X...box true failK.

I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.

Scared of what? That 5 people will buy it? Oh the fear.

and then find out that it's not true 4k

@ronvalencia said:

All hardware has limits and the difference hardware has different limits.

Gears of War 4 with 4K PC examples with reference to X1X's Gears of War 4 4K result.

You here i don't even know how you have the guts to even post in a thread like this,worse using a freaking MS game,AC is nothing like Gears or Forza in any freaking way.

You compared the 1070TGX vs Scorpio using nothing but MS games which are develop for xbox one using a unified api,lead platforms for both of those games is the damn xbox,so yeah those are totally screw up games on PC even more on Nvidia Hardware which the xbox one or Scorpio doesn't have.

This is even more BULLSHIT does you hypocrisy know no limits? So when a game was 900p on PS4 was because the PS4 was to weak and when a game is 1800p on PS4 Pro it is to weak as well,but when a game has dynamic resolution on Scorpio which MS is selling as a TRUE 4k machine some how is not Scorpio fault is the developers.

The only reason why Forza was 1080p on xbox one wasn't because MS could achieve higher performance than other developers,it was because Forza was a shitty looking undemanding game,but BF4 wasn't 1080p,Ghost wasn't either,not even Halo MS own game could hold 1080p,the game is dynamic because the xbox one X can't handle the engine at 4k rewsolution all the time which is fine the PS4 Pro version will probably be even lower,but trying to act like is the developers fault is a joke Scorpio Forza demo was never impressive to any one but lemmings and i told you lemmings so,that there would be checkerboard games on xbox one X as well and yeah i was right once again.

Hahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

According to Julien, the game runs at a dynamic resolution on Xbox One X that adjusts resolution depending on the rendering load.

In other words the game drops from 4k to lower resolution so yeah there goes the argument about true 4k and this is now,imagine 2 years from now evolution doesn't stop in the market and we all know it.

And that mean totally shit stop arguing shit that not one is arguing spinning troll.

MS doesn't make 1080GTX.

Oh go cry about limits elsewhere hypocrite after you have months crying about how the Scorpio = a 1070GTX based on nothing but MS shitty optimized games,i told you so how many times i told you so,i can't wait for DF analysis so we can compare it vs a 1070GTX.

I wasn't even talking about the Pro but i get it you are butthurt because once again your pathetic predictions failed,just like your Price prediction based on SOC price also failed $500 FTW...lol

@lglz1337:fyi: most ps4-pro games already run at 4k native!

Yes congrats, you can run Kingdom Hearts 2 at native 4k, SO MUCH PAWA!!!

lol don't be such a fanboy, PS4 Pro can't do next gen true native 4k like sony promised and you know it.

• FIFA 17 (some 30fps camera modes)
• Hustle Kings (HDR support)
• Mantis Burn Racing (HDR support)
• NBA 2K17 (some 30fps camera modes)
• Neon Chrome
• Pro Evolution Soccer 17 (some 30fps camera modes)
• Rez Infinite (Area X may be sub-4K)
• Thumper
• Viking Squad
• Wheels of Aurelia

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-every-native-4k-ps4-pro-game-tested

4k 60FPS...

Now you can change the argument to spin it..hahahhahaa

You mean a cow created a thread based on what MS admit by them self? So having checkerboard rendering and dynamic resolution counts as true 4k for XBO X but not for pro please explain how lemming.

Because that is what crazy Phill is spewing every where that the xbox one X is a rue 4k machine in another league..Hahahaha

I see you are hurt because it is not even day 1 on xbox one X and already has a dynamic resolution game that will drop lower than 4k.

Well WTF?

@Pedro:

This.

I'm gonna guess that the Scorpio will do better than that

But it was more to poke fun at the OP

Lol did people believe the hype. So high end Nvidia cards struggle with true 4k and lems believe this thing can do a lot that the Pro can't.

This isn't news to me, it was just a matter of time. It'll struggle with future games more and more when it comes to 4k.

Link to where sony promise all next gen games would be native 4k.

The pro can't hit 4k in all games but can 1800p and other resolutions that are not as bad either,the difference between 4k and 1800p is like 44% exactly the same difference that you find in 1080p vs 900p games on PS4 and xbox one which you lemmings claim is nothing.

Well it has to it is 43% stronger and no it wasn't as you asked the same on my thread..hahahaha

:)

Yes both cases where people were talking about PS4 pro and native 4k games, I wanted to know which ones are native 4k

Your initial quote was the end of me joking about the OP in this thread that says "most ps4-pro games already run at 4k native!"

4K native does not matter, if the games don't look that impressive. Horizon Zero Dawn graphically is one of the nicest looking games i have ever seen.

Witcher PC vs Horizon PS4 pro, i pick Horizon. Mind you i only played twenty minutes of the game, so far.

If it can't hit 4k, what is the 6tflops, 12gb of gddr5 ram and over 7 billion transistors for?

6Tflops + 9 GB of RAM + faster CPU >>> 4Tflops + 5 GB of RAM + weaker CPU,the meltdown is out control and the tears of envy are tasty..

You do know all the big games are going to be optimized for PS4 pro, for least a year?

Games >>>>>>> no games..

@SecretPolice: except PC which will surpass it in value fast and play station has better games

Poor old thing hahaha,now wants to play the games card because the hardware card is gone..it got games that i want to play and that's enough for me.

Link to where Microsoft said all games would run at 4k native

@Tessellation: but no games lol

@clone01 said:

@acp_45 said:

Okay. But resolution isn't the only thing that goes up when your machine gets stronger. Graphics goes up too, and that gives way to objective discussion (although never in here). But I don't think it should give way to someone who measures their maturity and superiority by how little they care about graphics. There is still something to be said about graphics and there always will be. Get off your high horse.

Keep doin' what you're doin'. Don't let me stop you now.

http://twinfinite.net/2017/05/phil-spencer-is-very-confident-console-games-will-look-best-on-scorpio/

"Developers are free to choose how they use the power of Project Scorpio for games” Phil Spencer pre-E3

Actually, the vast majority of PS4 games don't run native 4K, including first party.

More like VR Games. Fun!

>>>

Some even have problems at 1080p,lel

Is this a joke or are you just plain full of cow crap!

Link to where Microsoft said every single game will be running native 4K on the X1X. Thanks.

According to MS it self 4k means native,checkerboard or dynamic resolution..

Sorry but by MS the Pro is also true 4k as well...hahahahaa

You know why this ^^ exist? Because MS is covering its ass,they are screaming true 4k every where they can,but they know Scorpio will have checkerboard and dynamic resolution so they include them in what MS consider as Ultra 4k.

That's because MS said since day one (a year ago) that developers can choose, and they would not force 4K on developers. They said if they want to devote performance or assets in other areas, they are free to so. They didn't want to dictate what the developers should or shouldn't do. What part of that didn't you understand?

Still waiting your link to where MS said every single game ever released on the X1X will be in native 4K. And then while you are at it, supply us with a link to where MS changed their mind and told developers they NO LONGER have a choice in how they use the performance of the X1X.

Can a cow point me to the specific game in question?

The game this thread is about?

No? OK, sorry for bothering I thought something real was going on.

@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito said:

@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito said:

@Ant_17 said:

Yikes, lems bringing out the charts.

Xbox One X...box true failK.

I see all the scared cows are out. Upset the true 4K machine isn't the Pro? Scared because all multiplats will look and perform better on the Scorpio? Rhetorical so don't bother answering since we know all you cows are scared.

Scared of what? That 5 people will buy it? Oh the fear.

Doesn't matter if it's 1 person, the fact that the PS4 will no longer have the best looking multiplats has all you cows scared. Just look at quacks meltdowns in every thread. It sucks for you cows but luckily I'm a manticore and will be able to enjoy all no matter the platform :)

Yeah, let's see about that. Heard Metro ran on a PC on the Xbox E3 event.

You also hear Sony runs almost all their game demos on PCs during events? Standard practice son

Lol, cows... still trying to comes to terms with PS4 not having the most powerful box anymore. So sad.

Yup, now they make up stuff. They claim MS stated that ever single game on X1X will be native 4K, and yet they never back the claim up with proof.

Just like the Xbox One wasn't a true 1080p console.

Which was it's in Devs hands? So again a cow is creating a DC thread because MS said numerous times 4K would be up to the devs. Does that mean the X1X can't do native 4K? Nope, it most certainly can which is why this thread was created. You think a true 4K machine == every single game is going to be 4K? It's up to the devs. Going by your logic does this mean the PS4 Pro isn't a 1080p machine since not all games are going to be 1080p?

Cows aren't called clowns of SWs for nothing and you are the leader el tormented. The biggest clown here right along with the meltdown artist quack

@tormentos: The list of games you provided are graphically weak games, its as impressive as stating you can run minecraft at true 4k, its not something to brag about. and sure upscaled 1440p and 1800p look good and I don't believe I have implied otherwise, but please stop calling the PS4 Pro a true 4k machine or stop stating "it can run most games at native 4k" like it has any significant impact, because it doesn't.

@lglz1337: Soooooo Salty over the most powerful, technology advanced, with unmatched performance and power ever in a gaming console.

Xbox One X, The only true 4k gaming console.

Xbox One X the only console capable of high fidelity VR.

Xbox One X the only 4k gaming console with built in UHD Blu-ray play back.

Xbox One X the only console capable of playing all the best games better then any other console available.

Xbox One X the only console capable of 4K DVR playback.

Xbox One X 50% more powerful then its closest competitor.

Xbox One X the greatest console in history.

I've been playing Forza Horizon 3 on pc 4k 60fps for the last 2 weeks and it is a game changer, since launch I only played it on an Xbox One s, 4k 60fps is a generational leap, it's incredible, it really feels like a totally different game.

I can't wait for the X1X, 4k gaming will bloom when the X1X is out, for PC as well. Thank you Microsoft for sharing the love with PC and expanding the gaming industry, so good.

People need to realize that 4k on a really good tv changes everything, BF1 4k 60fps looks real, is incredibly crisp and sharp. People saying 4k doesn't matter have never experienced it in full.

You do realize that most of these 1800p games are not rendering at native 1800p right? They're checkboarding TO 1800p, and then from that point traditionally upscaling to 3840x2160.

NO Games >> no games..lol

The PS4 does have 4k native games do you people even read.?

NO that is because the fact that a MS game runs in 4k doesn't mean all games will,example Forza 60FPS 1080p since day 1,yet BF4 was 720p with huge drops in frame,COD was 720p,and so on.

No the PS4 can do dynamic resolution as well and when it can't hold 1080p it simply can't,if the Xbox one X was as powerful as you lemmings claim there would be no need for dynamic scaling.

By the way developers on PS4 can use the power as they see fit and sony say that to,and since day 1 it was say to use checkerboard didn't stop you lemming from claiming it was weak..

MS stated true 4k machine so true 4k mean no games under 4k,you can't claim true 150 MPH car and only deliver 145MPH..lol

Oh i did not claim anything about choices butthurt lemming,it is you claiming i did,Ubisoft is not choosing to drop resolution the xbox one X drops it because it doesn't have the power to hold it at the current settings Ubi chose,maybe if you were a true PC gamer you would know that..hahaha

Now before you sink even more into your hypocrite trolling,yeah the Pro is true 4k by MS own standards..ahahahahaa

Assassin’s Creed Origins Runs At Dynamic 4K Resolution On Xbox One X, Frame Rate Not Decided

Read more at: http://gearnuke.com/assassins-creed-origins-runs-dynamic-4k-resolution-xbox-one-x-frame-rate-not-decided/

The thread is not based on this game but yeah this one is dynamic in resolution...

@goldenelementxl said:

@gordonfreeman said:

You do realize that most of these 1800p games are not rendering at native 1800p right? They're checkboarding TO 1800p, and then from that point traditionally upscaling to 3840x2160.

Watch_Dogs 2 and Battlefield 1 are prime examples of this.

This is a game that's not even done yet and hasn't even been properly optimized as was stated only a few days ago, we have no idea what the final rendering method is going to be one way or another.

@tormentos: so you don't have a link stating MS said every single game on X1X will be in 4K?

@tormentos: You keep talking about no games for lems to play but what about you? You don't own an X1, PS4, Switch or gaming PC so it must really really suck for you and yet here you are talking about lems. If I were you I'd still to talking about sales and youtube videos because games are off limits for you El Tormented.

i see lems are salty as fook lol

there is nothing MS can do they can have so much power but without games it will bring you nowhere, playstation will stay the first go to console and stay in position relaxing and keeping the world domination. even 3rd party devs gonna troll xbox one x with parity untill ps5. gehe

Already told you guys in the last few topics before the reveal. true 4k isn't gainable on xbox scorpio or ps4 pro. And finally you guys start to realize it's the case.

I will tell you guys something fun.

4k 60fps ultra settings, is BARELY gainable on 2-4 year old games with 2x 1080 ti's which feature 22,6tflop ( its actually a overclocked one so make it 24tflop gpu system with a 5ghz 7700k intel cpu.

thats probably 30 amd tflops, the cpu is a whooping 3-4x faster with that if not more.

Anybody that though true 4k on a 6tflop amd gpu, with a 2,3 ghz amd junk tier cpu that can't push which is a massive bottleneck on every level. Was just fooling themselves.

There is a reason why PC is heavily focused on 1440p and 144hz. It's the best trade off for current gen hardware. And even that is insanely hard to get with current tech.

what do you consider "true 4k" because i'm under the impression that native 4k resolution is true 4k. What is your definition?